#HE DOES IT FOR THE MUSIC AND FOR US
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My actual favorite part of wisdom saga is telemachus trying to lean against Athena (he thought about that for .03 seconds and then was like nah !!! :D she's my friend not the goddess of war!!! Good to see that the audacity is running strong in odysseus's family) and then just passed threw her and fell on the floor. And then Athena did not move at all!!! And just stood there looking at him.
#Epic the musical#Wisdom saga#Wisdom saga spoilers#Epic the musical spoilers#Athena and telemachus are my favorite girlie pop dou#Her little oops earlier you know she was thinking back to how she just use to toss odysseus around with her full strength#Athena in that moment :....did I give odysseus brain damage? Is that the way he is? Or was he always a freak?#And then the way she just stood there while telemachus is sprawled through her ??? Amazing#Favorite moment#Athena does not get humans 101#You know what#I'm about to be back on my Athena just lives odysseus's house bullshit#It's not even an au it's practically Canon in the odyssey#And honestly?? After that she's needs a treat of all her favorite people under one roof just relaxing and healing#Rip diomedes sorry you're not included in this one#Athena#telemachus
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MDZS x Brazil (1985)
(Yes. Real movie dialogue)
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#MDZS AU#lan wangji#wei wuxian#Backstory to this is 'we recently watched Brazil (1985) and this scene make us lose our minds.'#Brazil (1985) is best described as 'The Monty Python Crew does an adaptation of George Orwell's 1984 (1949).' Because it is.#And let me just say. I think it is the perfect adaptation. Somehow this film manages to be one of the best dystopia satires out there#While also being a genuine critique of capitalism and burocracy.#Plus the practical effects and set design were outstanding.#The 'romance' in this movie was definitely also a satire.#It is unbelievably wacky. I'm dead serious when I say this comic is beat for beat something that happens in the film#Guy who told this women *nothing* about the peril she's in form the government tells her he (legally) killed her.#She responds by saying “Care for a little necrophilia?” with NO ROMANTIC LEAD UP.#THE MUSIC SWELLS. HE TEARS OFF HIS JACKET AND DIVES INTO THE BED. SCENE END.#Jill Leyton has incredible range as a hot butch and hot femme. Was the line bizarre? Yes. She can pull it off though.#We paused and watched it back a few times. I wasn't intending to make a crossover this obscure but honestly...#It's...it's too good of a fit to pass up. Wei Wuxian *would* say that...
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replicant, replicant, what have you done?
#using tmbg lyrics to be serious and moody is. so silly#but this song is very forever and always coded#this was mostly to practice drawing jon bc i feel like i never get his face right#idk. does he look too david tennanty#arcades art#illustration#procreate#fanart#hatchetfield#hatchetfield musicals#hatchetverse#hatchetfield series#hatchetfield universe#hatchetfield fanart#nightmare time#nightmare time 2#forever and always#paul matthews#paul matthews-23#paul-23#jon matteson#eye strain
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Thinking about how Telemachus has heard "You are just like your father" by so many people for most of his life. How different yet refreshing it is to hear said father tell him warmly "You're so much like your mother".
#Idk something about how he's just as much Penelope's son as he is Odysseus'. And how people just focus on his missing father#And Odysseus. the dad he's often compared to. says something entirely differnt.#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#my headcanons#penelope of ithaca#telemachus#odysseus#idk I'm fightin a fever right now :') I'm very sure this isn't even grammatically correct but yahoo!#epic the musical#odyssey#the odyssey#tagamemnon#I don't plan to write Penelope comparing him much to his dad often. She only does so when Tele wants/needs to hear it.#She realizes “okay. you're trying too hard to be in your dad's shadow. you're Telemachus first. you're our legacy second.”#he's still affected by others' talk though ;~; (grandparents used to call him the wrong name and such
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Done (heavy quotation marks) with monster Ody @evergreen292 ;)
tbh I couldn’t for the life of me pick a color palette I liked And Render it so I gave up on color. Enjoy the half assery.
Tbh I’ve just been call it Ithacan Naga, but it’s objectively it’s a mix of snake, owl/bird, and human. So 🤷.
Tbh the wings are supposed to be white/gray-brown, cause owls & Hermes, while his scales are supposed to be an oscillating scale from sea green-blue to purple-tinted gray. Uhm. Evidently that sorta didn’t happen but also did. So.
The purple/grayer scales are gonna be more around with the feathers and wings.
Those fin colors are. Too blue and too bright but I love the colors themselves so they’re staying for now.
Uhm. That’s it for now, ig. I’m sorta on a timer rn and I’m tired so <3
The writing bit with this is still in the works (😭)
#Odysseus#epic the musical#Ithacan naga au#guess that’s what we’re calling it#an Ithacan naga would deadass just be an aquatic naga#I think#the feathers and wings are cause he’s Zeus/Hermes’ kin & Athena blessed#tbh the main reason i wanted to color at all is cause I wanted easier differentiation between… everything. and actually draw the scales.#so snakes have this extra (?) bone that connects their skull & jaw which is what lets them extend it. so. ody gets that here.#resting/casual naga ody is like. 7ish ft? anything intimindation or just rising usually reaches 11-12 ft. his full length js 20 ft#naga eyes don’t have any eyelids. it looks very odd on a human (unsettling)#owl eyes don’t really have visible white scelcra#or however you spell it#nor do snakes#unsettling#maybe I’ll caption this later but hhhhh#he’s sorta supposed to be an olive sea snake and fish owl#but fuck colors rn#uhm cause he’s aquatic I suppose he does have to make up with Poseidon… uhm let’s say after everything Seidon picks up a fuss and Athena#argues back n everything and it causes a reallllly big fuss so Zeus (+ others) eventually work smth out that basically amounts to:#Don’t fuckin bother each other (intentionally)#also endgame for naga ody (he can change back and forth dw) is that he gets used to it. he doesn’t advertise it cause he’s sneaky like that#(and after he gets over the self loathing). uhmmm. yeah. It’s great cause NEREID PEN and SEA NAGA ODY#they can go on sea hunts together!!!!#ody CAN fly yes. same logic that lets Hermes fly with 2 small pairs of wings on his ankles and head.#he folds the wings when swimming and the fins fan out underwater. vice versa. his feathers are waterproof.#you can BARELY see the vauge shape of thighs/legs melting into the serpent part btw.#Ari’s art#my art#I’mma add onto this + actually type this out in a post later or smth
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majestic Rep Jane pls pls pls, maybe with her Ricky? 😼
OF COURSE I LOVE MAJESTIC REP SO MUCH!!
#THANK U SOOO MUCH FORT HE ASK ive been needinf a reason to draw her...#i also just have had that meme stuck in my head so now ur my reason to use it anon ty#ride the cyclone#rtc#majestic rep#majestic rep rtc#jett talks (me)#jett art (me)#jett inbox (me)#jane doe#penny lamb#ricky potts#richard potts#spacedolls#musical theatre#theatre#musical#musicals
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Voice actors are NOT the same as actors.
It takes a specific kind of skill-set and training to be able to warp and meld the voice. It takes a certain kind of talent and dedication to hone that talent into the ability to meld the voice and invoke emotion with one's voice alone. Actors are used to using their voice secondarily to their body language and their facial expressions. It's all mirrored back on camera. They do have nuance. But it's a different kind of nuance and a different kind of training to produce that nuance.
Voice actors might get their likeness transposed on their character's design, and maybe their mannerisms might seep into the character's animation. But when it's all said and done: their presence is in their voice. They are bringing a character to life, showing that emotion in their voice, trying to keep a specific accent, drawl, pitch, tone in that voice and keep it consistent for their recording sessions.
The voice actor is like a classically trained musician who can play first chair in a competitive, world-renown orchestra. The actor (who fills the voice actor's role) is like a moot who played violin in beginner and intermediate high school orchestra and thinks they can get into Juilliard with that 2-4 years of experience.
This doesn't mean that the HS orchestra moot can't play. They can even be really good at it. Maybe they won competitions and sat first chair. But they are not in the same league as the person who's been training their whole lives and lives and breathes to hone their craft using the instrument and all of the training they've ever acquired to perfect it. They are not meant for the same roles. They are not in the same caliber. You do not hire the HS equivalent when you want to play complex music in a competitive orchestra.
Actors are not the same as voice actors.
And furthermore, actors - especially big name actors - taking the roles of animated characters for big budget films or TV pilots makes no sense anyways when - at least in the case of TV pilots - there's not a point to hiring a big budget actors anyways. That money could be used elsewhere (like paying your animators), and the talent that is brought onto the screen for X character could then be hired on to voice said character no recasting required.
I wouldn't say voice acting as a profession is in danger exactly, but it's certainly being disrespected and overlooked for celebrity clout, and this has ALWAYS been an issue. Shoot, even Robin Williams knew that much - which is why he tried so hard not to be used as a marketing chess piece for Aladdin and got royally pissed off when it happened anyways. People shouldn't go to any movie (but especially not animated films) because "oh famous actor is in it". People should go because it's a good movie and the voice acting is good.
People who honest to god think that voice actors are replaceable because "oh well anyone can voice act" or "I like xyz celebrity so naturally it'll be good" ... Honestly I just wish you'd reassess your priorities because you're missing the point and are part of the problem.
Voice Actors ≠ Actors.
#(i am incredibly passionate about this)#(and seeing celebrity voice actors in what should be a voice actor's role completely burns my buns it doesn't matter WHO it is)#(hemsworth as optimus? someone tell me one good reason why they couldn't get a good v/a to replace mr. cullen properly for the future)#(ben shwartz as sonic? dude literally isn't even a good voice actor OR actor anyways-)#(- A N D jason griffith AND my boy roger craig smith are still RIGHT HERE)#(jason griffith IN PARTICULAR would have pulled back SO many sonic fans that went to watch the film anyways. if not /more/.)#(and on top of that he has the same tonality and energy they tried to force this moshmo to try and emulate anyways so GET THE REAL THING)#(chris pratt as mario? i can at least defend /him/ and say that barring his failure to do a NY accent consistently he wasn't terrible)#(but mario's new voice actor could've been used instead and people would've clearly appreciated that WAY more)#(vanessa hudgens as sunny starscout in mlp g5's pilot movie? literally why. they replace her and hitch's va in the show.)#(don't even get me started on the concept of hiring celebrity singers to do musical theatre roles or not letting musical theatre singers-)#(-dub the celebrity voice actors you just HAD to hire for your film bc you're so worried about not getting enough clout to get ppl in seats#(that you're putting it all in this (1) big name hire bc turns out that you have no faith in your writing ability much less-)#(-animation as a medium.)#(and no before anyone says anything : no this is not me saying that ALL celebrity voice castings are bad.)#(there are some that aren't that bad and others that are actually pretty good.)#(i especially appreciate it when actors are damn well aware they aren't voice actors and try to LEARN from voice coaches-)#(-and/or their va predecessors if applicable.)#(that does not change the fact that the celebrity shouldn't have been hired just because the film wanted to have bragging clout-)#(-oh look at this FAMOUS PERSON we were able to hire — yeah ok. sure wendy. i want to know if this film is quality or not.)#(and 9/10 times the SECOND there is money spent on a non voice actor to voice the main character especially)#(that usually means somewhere along the way animation IS going to get shafted. if not w the animators themselves then in the way of-)#(-the actual animation itself and ESPECIALLY the screenwriting because it's especially been so dogshit lately even before the strike.)#(a celebrity being hired to fill a voice actor's role is such an immediate red flag to me and it is VERY rare that i get to be proven wrong
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Okay I think that one thing we're really not talking about is how Telemachus adds something to the end of each song, the exact moment we think it's over.
"If I fight those monsters, is it you I'll find? or "Tell me Athena why you came to my aid"
He's setting up for the next song, telling us that there's still more to it. In the Wisdom Saga, he figuratively acts as a reprise to Odysseus, through his relationship with Athena and the riffs Jay pointed out in We'll Be Fine.
That's why I think it's especially important that in We'll Be Fine, Athena is the one adding to the end of the song.
"You're a good kid."
Though Telemachus technically has the last line there too, it's not one that provokes action. Instead Athena adds a line, which in theory didn't need to be there. In all technicality, the song had ended. The next song, she takes action.
She's giving herself a reprise. A second chance.
#sirjoing#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#telemachus#athena#jorge rivera herrans#i have a lot of thoughts about this#the way telemachus is just constantly setting up for the next scene#the way he's *adding* so much to the narrative#i know im using the word reprise very loosely btw#also like#the way in the following songs athena is doing the same thing#she ends love in paradise#she ends god games#now its her who is telling us *there is more*#her who says *the story does not end here*#really important because odysseus is#infinitely stuck on calypso's island
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Considering that in the Iliad and in the Odyssey, a lot of Odysseus' faults aren't even discussed like they are in the "Epic" musical, how different stories paint the sacking of Troy with more or less detail (the Iliad versus the Aeneid, for example), and who murdered Astyanax also depends on the story (Astyanax isn't even mentioned in the Iliad, Odyssey, or Aeneid, but in other lesser known books/stories), it's very interesting how Jorge Rivera-Herrans chooses to paint Odysseus' character.
You can only assume that "Epic the Musical" really is just a very specific character study about this one dude that Jorge hyperfixated on, huh?
#lol#but for real#rivera-herrans knows his shit#he really does just know the Epic lore very well#y'all should seriously read the odyssey#i'm rereading it just to see how different shit is#and i appreciate epic the musical very much for how it shows us just how fucking human odysseus actually is#he does so much shit and is in no way a good person#nor is he a bad person#he's just human#epic the musical#aso rambles
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(ch366 spoilers) ok but seriously, i have some thoughts on this that are maybe too long to put in one go but essentially, I don't think Iruma will take up Mephisto's offer on the basis of him being the "king-maker", rather I think he would ask for his guidance more like as a teacher. Especially since Sullivan has already told Iruma becoming the demon king is only one path he has of many, and Iruma himself saying he's still a student when Mephisto originally (jokingly) named him king of the Many-Ears. Plus him being a teacher now and always admiring the teachers of Babyls.
(Although personally I think school + action shounen that results in the MC becoming a techer is hit or miss. Like Assassination Classroom made sense because the whole point was the teachers and students' relationship to each other not the killing. And how people are kinda hating on MHA's ending for yoinking Deku's power [idk that's what I heard] and making him a teacher even though personally I think the ending makes sense from a pure narrative structure perspective though it perhaps doesn't have the same context that makes it satisfying since AssClass was a very small enclosed world centered around the school and MHA did not, afaik. Anyway, I think it would work with Iruma, and I could definitely see him being both a teacher and demon king--it's very greedy but it fits M!IK's themes perfectly)
on the other hand, Mephisto's declaration is basically saying he has chosen who he supports as the next demon king, so regardless of what Iruma decides, Baal will absolutely not overlook it. Obviously, because he has gotten Princess Shura's support seemingly to become king himself, but what if Iruma becoming king will help his goal to (as it seems) extract Delkira's power? Ali only gets stronger as Iruma's rank goes up, so who knows what will happen if he passes Scala here. Maybe Delkira's power will manifest enough for Baal's goals. And now that I think about it, does Iruma even know Baal is trying to kidnap/use him? If Baal ends up showing his support for Iruma and Iruma doesn't realize his malicious intent...
#the best leader is one who does not choose to be one etc. etc.#mairuma#m!ik#welcome to demon school iruma kun#mairimashita! iruma kun#i think he wouldnt reject mephisto but in fact go further and value him not just for his role as kingmaker#i have so many thoughts on where this manga will go#i will love it no matter what but mmmm#i think eaxh rank up is less about what will come but a decision he makes that it symbolizes#since rank 5 resulted in him seriously considering the weight of ranks + he was the only one for a bit#ie he found out what being a king alone at the top would be like#then i think rank 6 will be a decision of what he wants to do now that he has realized the weight of the future#adding on to what ive previously said about mephisto being disqualified as examiner for favoritism#i think iruma could still pass without him just by his connections to Amuryllis n what not#just like crocell said during the music festival its not cheating to use connections you worked for#and besides if a helpful item can be your two soulmates then i guess he can use his connections to other demons
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SIR WHAT DO YOU MEAN???????
#i hate him (affectionate)#the way my heart stopped for a second when i opened insta to this#he does like to tease us doesn’t he 🫠#whether this is new miles music (PLEASEEEE) or a collab with someone or (god forbid) tlsp 3 stuff i am so so here for ALL of it#miles kane#lulu posts
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i like that in the sea of misinterpretation of geralt and re-interpretation of geralt, sapkowski decided to drop a banger novel that’s like:
hey, you know geralt the witcher, right, well remember how much of a hero he is and how much love he has in his heart and the deep loyalty to his friends and intrinstic humanism he embodies, how he’s emotional and susceptible to fear, insecure and doubtful sometimes, but how, in the end, he always saves people, even when it hurts him he does it, and that’s his purpose as a hero, saving people and wanting to protect and defend the innocent, appearing with sword in hand whenever evil stalks in the darkness? because he is a hero? a witcher? that’s who he is, our geralt, a witcher?
yeah, that geralt?
yeah :)
#alexa please play modlitwa from wiedźmin musical#WAIT YOU KNOW WHAT ALSO#OK SPOILERS#after geralt gets his revenge done with (or… straight up abandons it when the choice must be made)#he becomes: a witcher. which means he goes on saving people from evil#and when ciri goes and has finished with her revenge… by the end of lady of the lake…#and what does she call herself in the end… ‚surely there must be some work for a witcher girl in this world’#sapkowski was being coy when he said he will not tell us what ciri becomes after her time being Evil#but if she is like geralt (and we know she is)#then she will also become like him as a witcher… embodying the Good…#the elbow-high diaries#c: geralt#the witcher books#book: crossroads of ravens
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I love compilations like "Starkid breaking the fourth wall" because you always know what's coming:
. That one moment in Twisted (Subliminal messaging)
. That one moment in Starship (Damn that G.L.E.E)
. That one moment in AVPSY (The same Hermione you know and love)
. The end of TGWDLM (WHY ARE YOU CLAPPING)
. A few moments in AVPM (Voldemort threatening A.J when he starts playing the piano, when Voldemort just walks around the stage door, etc)
. About half of Firebringer (The fourth wall hadn't been invented yet)
. All of Trail To Oregon (The fourth wall still hadn't been invented yet)
. Red Vines (what the hell can't they do?)
#there are a couple more#most notably snape joking about deja vu / tarkin repeatedly stopping and starting the music in ANI / people using the term back stage...#oh and clark baxtresser in firebringer#i know i already included half of firebringer but that feels especially noteworthy#wait. does this mean joey playing himself in mamd is breaking the fourth wall? hm#i wouldn't count it because i think hes just playing a character with the same name as him but idk#anyway ill shut up now#starkid#twisted#starship#a very potter musical#a very potter sequel#a very potter senior year#the guy who didn't like musicals#firebringer#the trail to oregon#trail to oregon starkid#red vines
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"Uh, just this please," Steve said, handing the CD to the guy behind the counter.
He gave Steve a weird look. "Are you sure you want this?"
Steve nodded, sweating. "Yup."
"You do know it's Ozzy Osbourne, right?" the guy said, looking for the price. He glanced up at Steve; striped polo shirt, perfect swiped hair, and all. "It's not Wham! or ABBA. That'll be fifteen."
Steve handed him a twenty. "It's for my friend. He likes Ozzy. But he prefers Dio, but I much prefer Ozzy than Dio. So I will be buying this one, so I get to listen to it with him rather than having to listen to Dio." He took the bag the guy gave him. "But honestly, Mötley Crüe is my jam."
"Yeah man," the guy just looked weirded out, "here's your receipt."
Steve gave him finger guns. "Coolio, man," he said, trying to be slick, but he ended up tripping on the way out of the store.
#steve just getting into alt music or more metal music and eddie introducing him to these bands and artists#and he still looks like season two steve because thats funny to think of#and he does research on all these bands even though there's not much out there seeing as these bands only formed like ten years prior#but either way he's doing research and whatever and listening to music eddie supplies him with but eddie wants the either the new#ozzy or dio cd so steve uses his knowledge of past listening classes and chooses ozzy but he then meets this guy who works at the store#this guy is like beoski are you buying the right thing? this is not queen. this is some metal music not madonna#and steves like i know its for my boyfriend i mean best friend i mean friend#and then says that motley crue is his jam and dies inside because holy fuck he said jam and thats not metal at all#stranger things#steve harrington#steddie#eddie munson#mötley crüe#ozzy osbourne#dio band#dio#metal music
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smth smth about 'the thing that the character did that you thought was rly rly funny in the moment is actually linked to a terrible trauma that lies within said character.' or wahtever.
#jrwi show#jrwi fanart#jrwi riptide#gillion tidestrider#made this within a short span of wahtever bc i gotta go up to the mountains for my stupid gay job tonight n im trying#nnot to frrRREAAAK THE FUCK OUUTTTTTTi dont wanna work but. get that bread we fuckin shall i guess#ONWARDS TO THE FISH TORMENT!! sometimes flowers feel pain when you trim them before their blossoming. atleast i imagine so#i used to draw gillion with loooong hair tied into a big ol braid. and then it was confirmed that he had short hair when he was little.#AT FIRST I WAS SAD. but then i realized the duality of. when they were little. gill had short hair. edyn had long hair.#AND NOW THEYRE OLDER. and gillion has long hair. and edyn has short hair#both mirroring eachother. looking up to eachother. subconsciously or not. they most certainly care. and most certainly miss eachother.#GILLION ALWAYS LOVED HOW LONG HAIR LOOKs. atleast i imagine so. he hasnt cut it since he left the undersea. sure he wanted to go back home#but even at the very start. he knew he was free in some way now. free to grow out his hair. an adventure would await him before he returns.#he knew it would be a while. so he cant let this go. he cant let this sought-after hair-length get cut away from him again#not yet. not yet. i like to think he loved music too. I SAW SOMETHING INTERESTING A BIT AGO#i see alot of ppl commenting on my baby gill comics like;'i wouldFIGHT this teacher i wanna KILL EM i want them DESTROYED#all very good and nice sentiments! i LOVE the energy here! and it would be nice. to have that catharsis#but the story of young tidestrider is not a story of catharsis. it is a story of agony and being so so small and so special and also so dum#and sucking so bad. and just being a kid and doing the things that a little kid does and so many tired tired people reacting badly to it#youre supposed to be the hero that will save us. our world hangs in the balance and you are the one who tips the scales.#YOU are supposed to SAVE US!! you NEED to SAVE US! CAN YOU PLEASE STOP SQUIRMING IN YOUR STUPID CHAIR!!#you'd think that young tidestrider ought to prevail. and be tucked someplace all safe and sound.#elders gone missing and rotting in a jail. their cultists nowhere around. but theres no happy endings. not here not now.#this tale is all sorrows n woes. you may dream that justice n peace win the day. but thats not how this story goes#BIG ideas for this lil baby gillion series. if anything i make ever gets disproven im killing myself in a well as to poison a water supply
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blood dripped from Poseidon's mouth, red.
red.
the day they overthrew Kronos, child-eater (stomach acid crawling around them, after maw of teeth grazing his small, child body), his golden ichor bled red.
god blood, degraded into a mortal's.
the day Typhon, father of monsters (as big as their father was, as big as the Titans with sharp claws and teeth) ripped out Zeus' tendons, his blood was red.
Poseidon, god of the tides, son of Kronos, looked up at the dark shape stood above him, his own golden trident in his hand, the teeth like prongs drenched in red.
Odysseus is a mortal. was a human.
sharp webbed ears spread out on the side of their head, scales grew around their neck and arms, shining like a coral reef, illuminated by their growing red eyes, that were shrunken to slits.
Odysseus' teeth glinted in the lightning, showing their unnaturally sharp point.
monster.
#small snippet that i can't develop any further.#this is uh#Ithacan Naga AU#didn't mean to talk about Poseidon's probable trauma with Kronos but here we are. do you think particularly salty or poisoned water reminds#poseidon of stomach acid? do you think the original five olympians are closer knit with each other#from being eaten alive as a child and then growing up in a stomach?#do you think hestia is the goddess of family cause she was the oldest sister and had to care for the others the most? that hades find an un#ealthy comfort in the darkness of the underworld? How do you think stomach acid was for Poseidon; as god of the sea? if that was the closes#he could get to his domain in a /stomach/? The same with demeter? only chewed up food as the closest to agriculture?#do you think hera understood - somehow - that this hurt their mother?#sigh#and all and all Zeus was really only able to lead them so easily afterwards is cause they didn't /know/ what to do after they were freed?#/AND/ Zeus really isn't privy to any of it; cause of course he isn't (nor does he care to know).#didn't mean to rant with that but. yup. anyway#tbh i want to draw a part of this to show the webbed ears w/ head-wings so. yeah. maybe. i'm still getting used to my new drawing tablet an#my sketchbook fell in water a while ago and i've been frozen on how to deal with it. so. yeah.#anyway#600 strike#vengence saga#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#why do we have so many tags for the same thing ;.)#six hundred strike#odysseus epic#epic odysseus#odysseus#writing#poseidon epic#epic poseidon
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