#Ginny gothel

[jupiterisaroace]

Is Captain Hook dead in Descendants?

Not Hook in Rise of Red of course but I mean in the other ones.

We know that in Peter Pan he gets eaten by the clockodile but is that canon in Descendants? I know there are a lot of people that should be dead in Descendants but aren’t. All I can think of right now is that Mother Gothel should’ve been dead but had Ginny Gothel so maybe Hook isn’t dead?

I know in the first book it talked about how Maleficent remembered being killed by prince Phillip but she then woke up from her death & ended up on The Isle so maybe that happened to Hook too?

I also remember in the first book when it was talking about Evie’s party it mentioned Hook in it saying, “-and for old times’ sake, Captain Hook bravely stuck his head between Tick-Tock’s open jaws, if only so he could make her laugh and hear that lovely peal again.” so does that mean he’s still alive?

But that makes me confused on Harry’s attachment to his hook. I always assumed it was his dad’s hook (or one of his old hooks) & if Hook died then that’d make more sense why Harry would literally jump into water with killer sharks just to save his hook. I mean, yes, he could just like his hook as well but personally I wouldn’t jump into that kind of water for some common accessory I love unless it was given to me by someone.

That makes me wonder if Hook gave Harry a hook but Hook never died? Like, it would’ve been a gift from Hook & Harry probably wants to be like his father so having something like that would mean so much to him?

It’s confusing meeee😭

[lumax-mayclair]

There’s something very interesting about the Hook family in Descendants…

With all the lore surrounding descendants, the movies, the books, wicked world, etc, there’s a lot of talk about how no one on the isle are “friends”; they’re acquaintances, partners in crime, crew members— and then there’s the Hook siblings and their ride or die besties:

Harry/Uma

Harriet/Ginny

CJ/Freddie

🤔🤔🤔🤔

Personally I explain it by headcanoning that unlike the rest of the kids and their parents, Captain Hook and their mother actually were in love; therefore the Hook sibling have seen what it is to actually be in love and devoted to someone 😊🩵❤️

[princess-ibri]

Tangled Unbraided

For ages I've wanted to find a way to use the old fractured fairytale idea of "Rapunzel Unbraided" Disney was going to do in the early 2000s, and decided to just go ahead and show what I've got. So here's some sketches of how the main characters would appear in this hypothetical Tangled spin off movie:

The original synopsis for Unbraided ran as thus:

“An evil witch named Lucretia despised fairy tale happy endings and plotted to change all that. Meanwhile in modern day San Francisco, Claire and Vince are two vastly opposite teenagers who cannot stand one another. Claire is a short haired, fashion obsessed teen who was concerned with her looks. Vince is a stocky and crude pizza delivery boy on hard times. The two of them get on each other's nerves which gets the attention of Lucretia in the fairy tale realm. Lucretia takes Rapunzel and her prince Beau and transforms them into a squirrel and dog, respectively, while Claire and Vince find themselves filling their roles. Claire and Vince eventually team up with Rapunzel and Beau to defeat Lucretia and return to their respective places in time. “

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And I'd want to follow the basic plot of that, though with changes with what we have from the actual Tangled movie. But basically two teens from 2007 San Francisco (why not make it a 'period' piece with all this Y2K nostalgia going on that makes no sense to me, a Y2K kid x) get reverse Enchanted and find themselves in the Everrealm. Searching for a way home, mentored by a talking squirrel and dog that claim to be famous fairytale characters also trying to regain their human forms.

The reason the witch tries to recreate the Rapunzel story with two people who are unlikely to give it a happy ending is that she's trying to make a spell to warp reality and bring about another golden flower (so that we can have the one that eventually shows up in Sofia the First) and so gain immortality for herself.

My ideas for the growth journeys each character goes on in this hypothetical movie is of course that Claire and Vince both learn to be more comfortable with themselves/find their real potential, as well as learn that its ok to trust others emotionally, both in a platonic sense with Eugene and Rapunzel mentoring them, and romantically with eachother as they get closer.

Rapunzel and Eugene would have this be an opportunity for them both to work through the concerns they both have about being parents. Sure they both have better parental relationships now, but both grew up with either abusive or absent parents (and then hyper protective ones in Rapunzel's case with Frederick) and though they both want kids they're afraid they might still mess it up. So, getting to help these two teens find themselves and their way home gives them a sense of the type of parents they'll be, and that they'll be ok in the end.

(They also all eventually find out Claire is their many times descendent and thats why she looks like Rapunzel so much, and why the spell called her into Rapunzel's place)

For the Witch I decided to change her name from Lucretia as I already had a character with that name for the Bluebeard story. I still wanted her to have some actual connection to the og Rapunzel fairytale, and a way to know about the Sundrop flower, and while I know we already had Cass as Gothel's kid, per my DisneyVerse she did have more then one over those many many years 😅😬

We already had a benevolent version of another Gothel daughter with my rewrite of Ginny, so I decided this time we'd get to focus on a malevolent one, so our villain for this story is Azalea.

(I based her looks on one of the tree nymphs from Gothel's backstory in OUAT, old Gothel/witch concept art and her name was inspired by Alice from OUAT being Gothel's daughter, just with a sharper sounding plant name x)

Also here's some original concept art of the Rapunzel Unbraided story treatment!

(Some of these might technically be from the Rapunzel treatment but I feel they fit the story anyway)

Also some video! A rough animatic overview of the whole story

And a more polished small clip of Claire and Squirrel Rapunzel

But yeah that's my rough little idea of how I'd incorporate the Rapunzel Unbraided concept/characters into the Disneyverse :)

[dragoneyes618]

The VKs and Games

It doesn't matter what kind of games they like to play. It doesn't matter what kind of game it is. The very notion of a game is warped, for some of them.

The last time Harriet Hook played a game, it was in an attempt to keep her barely-out-of-toddlerhood siblings quiet and occupied as they crouched in a small dark place on the Jolly Roger and their father rampaged in a drunken rage.

The very idea of playing a game is completely foreign to Claudine Frollo. She genuinely has no idea what it is.

The only games Mal, Uma, Evie, Ginny Gothel, and anyone else with fairy or witch blood have experience with are word games, riddles, where one misspoken word costs you a lot more than the game. They are experts in wording things very carefully and finding loopholes.

The only games Freddie and Celia Facilier have ever played are card games. And they're always for something, even something small and useless. Games are never for free.

When Carlos was younger, Cruella sometimes played a game with him. Usually it involved Carlos having to pretend to be a puppy and Cruella hitting him with her cane if he forgot.

[isleofdarkness]

There are five basic survival rules on the Isle-

Don't mess with Harriet Hook

Don't mess with Maverick Mim

Don't mess with Uma Facilier

Don't mess with Ginny Gothel

And don't mess with Lydia Snoops

Unnofficial rule number six; do not ever, under any circumstances, mess with multiple people on this list.

Guess what Maleficent is about to do?

[panthera-tigris-venenata]

Few Mad Maddy Mim hcs <3

She's one of the very few Villain kids who doesn't visit the Tremaine salon regularly (= about once every two weeks). She doesn't like the Tremaines that much and, like, human contact. Ew.

She just trims her bangs herself when it starts falling into her eyes, and similiarly keeps her hair at a bit above shoulder lenght. So it wouldn't fall into anything.

One of her sister//cousins//unspecified relatives handles the trade with the Tremaines, they make shampoos and dyes and stuff for the salon.

Maddy herself handles the Apothecary.

The Apothecary sells everything from scavenged pills from Auradon trash runs, laudanum, home-made meds that might or might not work, to drug laces sweets and straight up drugs.

Which should count as meds, too, really.

Maddy keeps a proper scientific journal.

She also taste-tests the drugs. She's pretty sure she can't die, so she might as well.

Ginny Gothel is like the only human being she can tolerate. She is ALSO the reason for the "KEEP YOUR RELATIONSHIPS DRAMA OUTSIDE“ rule, which she continuously ignores.

Gothel managed to pass off some herbal tinctures and poisons and the idea of what homeopathy is to her daughter so there's that. Mother Gothel was very bored.

She also has a sudden spells of "I must get my daughter gifts so she's grateful to me etc etc. The last one liked dolls, seems fine enough.“ Meanwhile Ginny, absolutely deadpan: „Wow, thank you mother. How can I ever repay you.“

(they both know what Gothel wants Ginny for.)

...And Ginny gives the dolls to Maddy!

Maddy loves dolls, she collects them. They soothe her.

They generally freak out every first-timer at the Apothecary. Her favourite ones are the victorian porcelain ones.

...she might or might not have chipped one of them over Ginny's head when she wouldn't stop touching shit at the Apothecary. Ginny might or might not still have the scar.

Maddy likes colourful nail polish but it's always chipped or smudged off cos of her chemicals. Ginny brings her the polish from the salon, Anthony lets her take it.

Yeah also Maddy is more or less Ginny's dealer so there's that. Destructive Isle relationships<3

[aiodenhunt]

Hc that the only reason Cassandra isn’t in the Isle of the lost is because of Rapunzel, they did take her there for a day or two. But Raps noticed and technically begged King Beast to send Cass back to Auradon. Rapunzel took full responsibility of Cassandra, saying that if Cass ever caused chaos in Corona or the world again then both Rapunzel and Cassandra would be sent to the Isle.

Both of them are currently in Auradon, and Cassandra cannot thank Rapunzel more to this day.

And if Rapunzel and Cassandra knew about Ginny’s existence Raps would probably take Ginny to Auradon too.

[idontliketomatoesleavemealone]

Ginny: I was going to suggest we do Marilyn Monroe and JFK roleplay, but you'd get way too into it.

Anthony: What-how?

Ginny: I'd be like "come to bed ... Mr. President" and you'd be like, "I need to increase the amount of American military advisors in South Vietnam by a factor of 18."

[leavethemtorot]

"Sunflower, what's wrong?"

"Gloria hasn't been seen in three weeks."

"Fuck, Gin."

"Can try and save everyone else but can't even save my fucking sisters. How useless."

"Ginny. Hand me the bag. Better yet, hand me the bag and the bottle."

[humaudrey]

My version of Anthony Tremaine!

The only grandson of Lady Tremaine and the second eldest of all of her grandchildren (this leaves many people to assume he's the favorite and they're not entirely wrong, he's just one of the few she's willing to put up with. ((the real favorite is Dizzy and he knows it)))

His father is one of Shan Yu's soldiers, who was in a committed relationship with Anastasia at first.

His father immediately disowned him and his mother the second Anastasia had announced she was pregnant, and since then, Anthony prided himself on being a Tremaine.

He doesn't know who his father is, and at this point, he tries to act like doesn't care.

He treats most of his sisters and cousins as nuisances, but you wouldn't dare disrespect any of them around him (and don't refer to them as "half-siblings" either).

He's not a fighter or warrior of sorts, so don't expect a fight (he'd more than likely lose), but he's smart and clever enough to find other ways to exact revenge.

Bisexual, he doesn't lean toward any gender in particular and doesn't really bother hiding it.

Self taught on the piano, Lady Tremaine offered lessons but neither of the two had the patience for the other.

Anthony's also a talented dancer, he learned ballroom from Lady Tremaine, and mimicked what he saw on TV (his favorite show was Dancing With The Royals).

Lady Tremaine also taught him how to sew, which is why most of his clothes are fitted perfectly for him (he started the patched leather trend).

Anthony is no stranger to makeup. He usually sticks to a natural colored lip and eyeshadow, and concealer, but he also contours his face and sticks to darker colors to make himself look older and more mature ("like a lord") for special occasions.

He's as vain, greedy, and self-centered as any other villain on the Isle, but he stays in his own lane. As long as you mind your business, he has no real problem with you.

His desire to leave the Isle rivals that of Uma's. He's usually very low-key about it though.

Anthony swears that he will regain his family's property, assets, and social standing, and he's willing to do so, no matter the cost.

Despite the Isle's unique societal norms, Harriet was the first person Anthony truly fell for and they became the first official power couple of the VKs (This would then boost his reputation with his peers, and have others throwing themselves at him, thus ruining their relationship and resulting in Harriet and Ginny's fight at Uma's birthday party).

Once he gets to Auradon, he and Chad become sworn enemies. (And it doesn't help that he and Audrey start dating soon after Maleficent's second attack at Auradon Prep)

@lilicohirukoma (because I remember you wanted to be tagged in anything I post involving him).

[dizzydizney]

This ship tournament has shown me that Anthony x Ginny x Harriet has more fans than I ever could've imagined. Not passing judgement, just an observation.

But hey, you guys were up against one of probably the top 3 most popular ships in the fandom and didn't even lose by THAT big a margin so that's pretty impressive!

[princess-ibri]

I realized that the three Gothel Daughters I have in the DisneyVerse fall in with the Maiden Mother Crone archetype, so here’s all three together

(Og post for Azalea)

(Og post for Ginevra)

[dragoneyes618]

More details about how the Isle kids cannot process or interpret emotions....

@tiredflowercrown tagged:

@shellyseashell tagged:

Yes to all of these.

Ginny doesn't even know what she's feeling.

Mal was raised to be a perfect copy of her mother. But she doesn't want to be her mother, she hates her mother, but she doesn't know what else she is besides a mini-Maleficent, so she hates herself too. Anything that's close to her, she pushes away, rejects, makes them as unlike her as possible. She did it with Maddy. She did it with Uma. She would have done it with Evie, eventually, if they hadn't gone to Auradon.

The only way Jay ever earned his father's approval was through stealing. Even years later, he'll habitually steal little trinkets to gift to Lonnie without even noticing.

Evie doesn't know how to have any relationship with anyone that isn't seducing a prince.

Sammy Smee was raised in an violent environment full of anger and shouting. Even once he was on Harriet's ship, well, Harriet also gets angry, and also shouts, because she was raised in that same environment. Sammy can't understand anything that isn't like that.

Freddie and Celia don't trust anything that's for free. Everything has to be for something. Everything is in exchange for something. No one is simply "friends" with anyone, they have to be getting something out of it. It's only a matter of figuring out what, and making sure you won't be left at a disadvantage. (And it can be inferred that Freddie and Celia had one of the better childhoods on the Isle, so if this is their view on relationships, imagine everyone else's!)

Squeaky and Squirmy trust Sammy to be their provider, their teacher, their caregiver, and no one else. They don't know how to relate to anyone who isn't him. They just sort of shut down. Not with their father, who loved them but never tried to protect them, not like Sammy did. At least Sammy tried. Not with the Hook siblings, who were always getting involved in various dangerous shenanigans and who scare them, just the tiniest bit, even though they also help them and take care of them. No one but Sammy.

Dizzy....Dizzy has two examples: Anthony and Lady Tremaine. (Her mother never even pretended to love her. Her aunt was too beaten down to show it.) Anthony loves her, and everyone knows this. But Anthony was raised to be a lord on an Isle full of the dregs of society, an Isle where everyone ridicules those with pretenses to greatness. Yet his grandmother insisted, and he doesn't know how to show anything but his facade. He tells Dizzy he loves her, and he does, but he speaks coldly, strictly, harshly. He rarely, if ever, shows anger. No outbursts of emotion; hardly any emotion at all. No raising his voice. No playing games, no hugs, none of the things Dizzy would like to do. And Lady Tremaine....she really barely feels any emotion at all, not anymore. Of course she loves Dizzy, she says. She's her grandmother. What kind of grandmother wouldn't love her granddaughter? If only Dizzy would do her chores quicker, better, quieter. If only she would behave well. Then she would surely show Dizzy that she loved her, more than just saying "Of course I love you Dizzy" without even a smile and sending her off to the salon. Or so Dizzy believes, anyway. Anthony has inherited far more of his behavior and mannerisms from his grandmother than he would like to believe.

And Claudine. You see, Frollo usually does not lose his temper. He rarely shouts or rages. He prides himself on keeping perfect control on his emotions. And so Claudine doesn't associate loud noises or shouting with his anger. No, she associates frighteningly calm voices, in an even tone, with no expression, excoriating her with the harshest of words. And of course she thinks she should be hurt. Anyone who cares about her would hurt her as a punishment, so she should learn to do better. She doesn't like it, of course, but it's what has to be done, right? Right?

[isleofdarkness]

Isle Council

Just like Auradon has an official council called together to discuss and vote on important issues, the Isle has a semi-official one. Regular meetings, happening every time the seasons change, are usually nothing of note. But when the council is called outside of these scheduled meetings? That has only happened twice. Both times were events the Isle, both adults and children, would never forget.

The membership is as follows-

Harriet Jones, queen, representing the pirate crew of Far Shore

Maverick Mim, shows up for emergency meetings but usually doesn't come to the planned ones, representing the Mutants

Diego de Vil, representing the Devils of Barricade

Gineva Gothel, representing the Silver Cross

Shan Odgerel, representing Falcon Ridge and Sanctum

Uma Facilier, representing the pirate crew of Kraken Coast

Amara Olympian, representing Shadowland

Mal Briar, representing the Dragons of Villain's Keep

Mordred Mim, representing the Witches of the Badlands

Justice Olympian, representing the Exiled Gods of the Isle of Exile

Lydia Snoops, representing herself and Zevon

Jada Alraashid bint Cassim Jazira, representing Thieve's District

Aleksandr and Rosabella Hearts, representing the Underland District, formerly representing the Underland Gang

Ivy de Vil, representing Villain's Keep

Other membership includes

Tarzan D'Arque

Mischa Rasputin

Anthony Tremaine

Sammy Smee

Midnight Mim

Zachariah Darhk (later)

[panthera-tigris-venenata]

disaster threesome time!

Who sleeps in and who is the early bird?

Who’s more likely to cry about a plant dying?

Which of the two acts bothered by the other one but secretly enjoys every second of it?

Who gets more easily embarrassed?

Which of the two would you rather team up with for a game of laser tag?

Which of the two would be more likely to make a family album with physical pictures?

Who would confess their love first?

Who whines the most when they get sick?

Who’s got the highest pain tolerance?

Who’s got the most scars (physically)?

Who sleeps in?

None of them actually sleeps in. Ginny has nothing resembling a sleep schedule, Anthony is more or less forced to get up at unreasonably early hour (for the Isle anyway) by his grandmother, and as for Harriet. More fitting descriptor most morning would be "she didn't go to sleep yet".

Who's more likely to cry about a plant dying?

...Ginny. Anthony and Harriet do not have emotional capacity for that. If they're crying over a plant, run, they're about to fucking lose it.

Also, most plants on the Isle belong to the Overgrowth, and Ginny is... Rather personally invested in that.

Who acts bothered but secretly enjoys every second?

Have you seen them? The annoyance and insults are basically foreplay.

Which one would you team up with for a game of laser tag?

I'm not entirely sure what laser tag is, but, Harrriet, hands down.

Anthony thinks such a thing is below his dignity and I feel like Ginny would abandon the team thing about two minutes in for a personal vendeta.

Who gets more easily embarassed?

I'm gonna go with Anthony.

You see, he's not a chronic attention seeker with no concept of personal boundaries.

Usually.

Who would make a family album with physical pictures?

I think that Anthony would like the memento, but wouldn't put a lot of energy into assembling it. He mostly just prints some photos.

Ginny might enjoy decorating it, actually, scrapbook style. Glitter is involved.

Harriet claims she has better shit to do but she'd totally open it at two in the morning.

Who would confess their love first?

Lol, no.

If anyone's professing their love, they're on deathbed.

...or they screwed up majestically and need a major backup at the Isle gang scene. I wouldn't count it.

Who whines the most when they get sick?

Ginny whines the most in general. Attention whore.

Harriet, well, Sammy is the one stuck with her when she's trully sick.

Anthony, yeah. He'd never admit it's whining tho.

Who's got the highest pain tolerance?

One of the girls. Alcohol and sedatives//excitants tend to do that to person.

Who's got the most physical scars?

Probably Harriet.

But, you know. I think all of their hands are pretty scarred, all for different reasons.

(weapons and ropes and fights, bleach and razors and grandmother's punishments, mother's rituals and Maddy's substances)

Yeah, fun stuff.

[cleverqueencommander]

Harriet and Ginny