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The vast difference between how the Olympian gods (minus Hermes) see Hades and how the Cthonic gods (plus Hermes) see Hades cannot be overstated. Yeah, the Cthonic deities respect him, but they aren't wary of him like the Olympians are, and they definitely aren't afraid of him like some of the Olympians are. Like, it's just Hades. He's not going to cause problems, that's usually the opposite of what he does. They do not get what the problem is.

The Olympians act like he's going to declare war and free the titans if they breathe in his general direction and the Cthonics think that's kind of ridiculous

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Personality-wise I think she's probably got the most in common with Morgie, but I think she'd also work well with Hades and Maleficent because she's their opposite. I think she'd work well with all of the RoR VKs in that she wouldn't be afraid of them but would also treat them with respect as her equals, and I think Hades in particular would like that because most people in his life are afraid of him and most of those who aren't don't respect him, and the rare people who are both not afraid of him and don't disrespect him, like Persephone and Thanatos, tend to be people he likes.

I think she'd get into the group by befriending Morgie just because they're both similar and also both fae, and that would lead to her interacting with the others. Getting along with Hades from that point would be fairly easy. The other three would initially misinterpret her lack of fear as disrespect, and I feel like Maleficent would be the first to come around. Hook and Uliana would take longer because Hook is used to a power structure where he has no equal and it would take him some time to adapt to the idea that being treated as an equal doesn't inherently mean disrespect like it would on his ship, and Uliana, I think it would be kind of like when a dog is jumping around a cat, trying to entice the cat to play and socialize, but the cat doesn't understand and misinterprets what the dog is doing as hostility and reacts accordingly (Fay would be strange to her and Uliana canonically misinterprets behaviour she doesn't understand as a threat and she would react accordingly to the perceived threat.) Then it would eventually evolve to when the cat understands that the dog's behaviour is trying to instigate play but responds with a cat version of playing, like smacking the dog or chasing the dog, which the dog misinterprets as "oh, cat's trying to fight me" (Uliana would start trying to interact with Fay the way she interacts with the other VKs, with sarcasm and some ribbing that's never actually meant in a mean way, but Fay might initially think that this is Uliana still not liking her.) And then after a while they'd learn to understand each other and would figure out how to interact. I think her integration into the polycule would start with her just being with Hades and Maleficent and not with the other three, but then, once Uliana is finally used to her, she'd integrate into the full polycule.

I spent way too long on that. I think she'd start out being friends with Hades and Morgie and slowly integrate into the friend group, then the polycule, as the other three get used to her and she gets used to them. Personally, I think the dynamic between her and Hades could be good. But I'm up for anything

I’d like to RP with rise of red characters with. I know your rules and I am down with every one of them.

I am 38 for the record so definitely not a minor :)

Okay!

Ooh, yay! I'm excited for this. Should I make a separate blog for this? Because I can absolutely do that. However this works, I'm down

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Can we know more about how the gods aren't related to each other? Also why is Hades on high school?

Gods don't work like humans do, or like other animals on our planet do. With humans and animals, biological relation is based on DNA. Gods don't have DNA, they're personified concepts, they're made of magic and energy. For them, biological relation would be based on shared magic. And them doing that doesn't often work like shared DNA works for humans. Let's take the original six as an example- they are all personifications of completely different things, so they all have a magic that's completely unique from the others, even though they all came from the same parents. They aren't biologically related. Don't get me wrong, they still see each other as family (except when they don't, like Zeus and Hera,) but biologically speaking, they're a family of choice or an adopted family, not a biological family. In terms of biological relation, most of them have none because they don't share the building blocks of their existence. It works very differently for them.

As for why I think Hades is in high school in RoR, I think he was working to increase the fault tolerance of the Underworld. The Underworld very much relies on him, that is his domain, but maybe he was trying to make it so that if something were to happen to him, things wouldn't immediately go to shit and they would be able to at least scrape by long enough for a solution to be found. They're trying to figure out how the Underworld can function without him so that they know what to do if they ever need to keep things running without him there. Expect the worst and prepare for the worst so that if the worst happens, you're ready. At that point, did they think it was likely anything would happen to Hades? No. But sometimes crazy things happen- look at what happened to Thanatos and Ares- and if that crazy thing were to happen to Hades without them having a plan, everything would go to absolute shit. So they're making a plan so that if something happens, the damage done is minimal. I think he's taking breaks from the Underworld, kind of testing their plans to see how effective each plan is at keeping things functioning in his absense, seeing what needs to be improved, improving it, and testing the improved plan.

This is how I think the Underworld is functioning without Hades in Descendants. Because he was prepared for this eventuality, they had a good plan in place, and things were able to keep going in his absence. Because otherwise, the Underworld and the afterlife would be in the state of disarray we see in my AU. I think they must have done something to prepare for the possibility that something could happen to Hades, and that this something was Hades deliberately not doing his job for periods of time so that they could learn how to function without him (barring extreme circumstances. Obviously, if something were to happen during one of his absences that absolutely required his attention and that he needed to intervene in, he would come back and fix it. If Tartarus started to break free, obviously he's not forcing Thanatos to deal with that, that's a Hades job and he would deal with it. Maybe he'd show Thanatos how he deals with it so Thanatos knows, but he's still going to be the one to actually do it because there is not enough a margin for error for them to see if someone else might be able to do what they know Hades can.)

As for why he's in high school... maybe he's working on his people skills. Maybe he's trying to learn how to interact with humans. Maybe he's trying to better understand the world the spirits entering his realm are coming from. I am grasping at straws here because really, the decision to put him in high school makes no sense but it's the decision they made and refused to explain and I'm just trying to make it make sense. I think he's just trying to better understand humans, he's trying to learn how to better communicate with them, and for some reason he decided the best way to do that would be to enroll in high school. Maybe Thanatos suggested it as a joke and Hades actually went for it. Maybe that happened to be when one of his children was in the godly teenager phase and it had been so long since he'd been a teenager that he didn't understand how to deal with them, and so he decided that the best way to learn about teenagers was to go to high school. Maybe he was just bored without his job and his solution to end the boredom wound up being going to high school, he threw a dart at a map to decide where to go, it landed in the trash can, so he went to high school. I'm going with he's trying to understand humans and work on his people skills, and for whatever reason he decided attending high school was the best way to go about this.

It could work. It makes a little sense. It's not impossible. It's the least complicated option I can think of. So this is how I think it works

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I’d like to RP with rise of red characters with. I know your rules and I am down with every one of them.

I am 38 for the record so definitely not a minor :)

Okay!

Ooh, yay! I'm excited for this. Should I make a separate blog for this? Because I can absolutely do that. However this works, I'm down

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Do you live in the USA?

Unfortunately.

If the context of this ask is trying to get an understanding of what timezone I'm in, I'm pretty sure Eastern Daylight Time, but I'm also nocturnal due to my job. Do with that what you will

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How do you think the VK polycule works?

All five of them are together (my understanding of the gods is such that Poseidon and Hades aren't even really the same species, let alone related in the way humans can be related to one another, I can explain that further if needed,) and then there are kind of sub-relationships- Hades and Maleficent, and Uliana, Morgie, and Hook. Like, they're all in a relationship with each other, but those groupings tend to hang around each other more than they do all five of them

Also, Hades and Persephone, either with or without Maleficent added to that, because you can't just erase Hades and Persephone, their relationship is literally why the seasons change. You erase them and you have to rewrite basically everything we know about nature and the environment on a global level, so it's easiest to just work Persephone into the polycule somewhere.

I also have a theory as to why Hades is in high school and not in the Underworld, but that's not relevant here

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Do you RP rise of red stuff?

I haven't yet but I'd love to. I like Hades and Morgie

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Do you rp?

Yes, but I have conditions.

1. Boundaries and hard nos are established before we start, non-negotiable. I write some extremely dark shit and I tend to RP some extremely dark shit, so I need to know what you are and aren't comfortable with before we start.

2. Anything even slightly remotely approaching nsft needs to be negotiated and agreed upon, absolutely no exceptions. If we are RPing so much as a kiss I need to know that you are over eighteen for my safety and yours. I don't need an exact age but I need to know I'm not ending up on a registry. I have nearly been burned here before so I take this very seriously. And don't even try springing something of this nature on me (yes, I have had people do that before,) I will shut the scene down immediately. Disregard this rule if it doesn't apply, but I make sure to specify because I have had problems with this before. Consent is extremely important to me, and it is non-negotiable.

3. We establish the context of the scene and what you want from the scene before we start. Winging it can become a thing if this continues long enough for us to get used to each other, but for now, I need to know what I'm getting into to avoid things like needing to retcon and switch which character I'm using. Let's avoid the headache.

4. Communication is an absolute must. Dud scenes happen, I've had enough to fill a book, tell me if you think it isn't working. Tell me if you don't like something I do. And I will do the same. Communication is the key to all healthy social interactions, RP included. Please use it.

Yes, I'm a bit strict, but I've been role-playing for a long time and I know what works for me. If this works, great. If any of this is a deal-breaker, no hard feelings, what works for me doesn't work for everyone. That's the nature of the human condition.

It is also currently ass o'clock for me, just keep that in mind. My "morning" alarm goes off in six hours. Just so you know

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Ace, to the assassins Beast sent after it; You seem to be relying on my aunt's vow to never harm a living being. Ace, pulling out a machete; Let me assure you that I subscribe to no such niceties.

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Fun fact about Facilier- he owns guns. And unlike most of the Isle, not just revolvers or flintlocks. No, most of his are stolen from an Auradon military armoury or from Auradon guards, so he's got some pretty heavy-duty ones. And he knows how to use them. He takes protecting his territory very seriously because threats that come for his territory tend to be very serious

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It wasn't even a competition. He went "Okay, bye" so fast her head was spinning. Did not hesitate to grab his children and walk out the door. Didn't even give her the chance to get over the shock, hit the bricks that fast

Maleficent really genuinely thought Hades would choose to stay. She gave him the ultimatum of "either you kill this child you found or you leave" and thought he would go "yeah, I'll just kill this baby and stay with Maleficent." Which is an absolutely wild thing to expect of any parent (or, you know, any person,) much less a father who has already lost three children in the past couple years. She was counting very heavily on that love spell and counting very heavily on him not genuinely loving his children (because true love beats a love spell any day of the week.)

She really thought that was gonna work. Surprised Pikachu face when Hades left.

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Maleficent really genuinely thought Hades would choose to stay. She gave him the ultimatum of "either you kill this child you found or you leave" and thought he would go "yeah, I'll just kill this baby and stay with Maleficent." Which is an absolutely wild thing to expect of any parent (or, you know, any person,) much less a father who has already lost three children in the past couple years. She was counting very heavily on that love spell and counting very heavily on him not genuinely loving his children (because true love beats a love spell any day of the week.)

She really thought that was gonna work. Surprised Pikachu face when Hades left.

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The Isle kids have invented a game called Triple T (Top That Trauma,) where they list horrific things that have happened to them to try and figure out who had the worst traumatic event. Mischa Rasputin and Ace Hearts are permanently banned from playing because Jesus Christ do those two have some trump cards.

Yes, they are aware this is a horrible coping mechanism

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Tired of the “she did nothing wrong” mindset. She did EVERYTHING wrong and I’m still on her side and that’s true dedication baby.

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Persephone is the only allistic member of the household on the Isle. Hades, Hara, and Riah are all autistic, she's the only one who isn't. It always takes her a few days to readjust to interacting with non-autistic people whenever she leaves the Isle because she spends six months as the only one in the house.

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And yes, Hades has accidentally gotten clocked in the head by precious metals and gemstones due to his whole attracts-precious-metals-and-riches thing. Some of the shopkeepers in the bazaar still laugh every time they see him because they saw this happen, it was the funniest thing they have ever seen

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Also, Maverick as Destiny doesn't act like she's in charge, she never does anything that gives the impression she thinks herself above the rest. Sure, she's the most powerful of them and the oldest, but she doesn't consider herself more important than the other twelve. As far as she's concerned, she's their equal in every way except raw power and age. That does a surprising amount to improve the family dynamic