#George Blagden said the same thing about Grantaire's looks at Enjolras

[carphoegras]

I don’t ship most of these myself , but your rant/ramble posts on Les Mis ships are funny so I genuinely wanted your opinion on these 👁

1. Enjoltaire

2. Valvert

3. Enjonine

4. Marisette (or whatever Marius x Cosette was called)

5. Javonine (Javert and…Eponine 😭)

6. Marionine (A name a just guessed for Marius x Eponine because I wasn’t bothered to look it up)

7. and uhhh.. Granjonine (I think that was the name)

well hello darling! i live to entertain lol lets get into it i might have to put this under a cut because i think its obvious i have a rambling issue

Enjoltaire : a classic for good reason. they seemed really base level to me at first because i watched the movie first, but once i read the brick and really saw their dynamic i fell for them HARD. for me the beauty of this pairing is really rooted in the substance of their individual characters as opposed to like a romantic relationship. idk its so difficult for me to verbalize why i love them so much i think i just love the idea of finding common ground despite difficulties. enjolras and grantaire mirror each other in such a beautiful way that i feel the musical/movie couldn't really capture without demoting it to a puppy love grantaire/mean enjolras dynamic idk i have such an issue with some portrayals of them because i feel like they create a victim/abuser situation where there wasn't one but that's like a whole post within itself anyway i feel like im getting incoherent i love exr with every fiber of my fucking being just read the brick if you don't get it ok the movie and musical just dont do it justice and for the love of god avoid the fics written in 2012/2013 after the movie hype its all wRONGGGG (i love you george blagden but you created a twink grantaire movement) (they pull each others pigtails okay its a mutual obsession) (enjolras why don't you just ignore him baby? glutton for punishment my dear we all know if you hated him you wouldn't let him hang around) (anyway) i should make a seperate post about my exr feelings bc i could talk ab them for hours

2. Valvert: okay this is where i feel like i can be unpopular with the fandom. i fucking hate this ship. like physically, spiritually, all that. its one of those that i kinda lose respect for the person bc its literally a cop/prisoner thing. its not enemies to lovers. its not a hate love thing. javert's a fucking cop. valjean is his victim. the whole idea of people romanticizing this makes me feel so insanely icky and i think the point of the story has just gone RIGHT over some folks' heads please take a step back and think about it. neolib behavior sorry not sorry

3. Enjonine: enjolras is gay. just like, straight up in the brick enjolras is a gay man. this ship is spawned from straight girls who saw aaron tveit and use eponine as their not like other girls posterchild. just a whole bunch of hetero nonsense. same behavior as the joseph quinn enj x reader bs. honey thats a homosexual man and can we please stop reducing eponine to needing a boyfriend she needs a stable home and a goddamn therapist fucking hell

4. Marisette: okay. i LOVE THEM. i'm a cosette stan myself, and i'm a huge fan of a gooey love at first sight situation. they contrast my love for exr in the sense that they're a very easy love. their parts in the book literally make me SWOOOOOON i can put aside my beef with marius as a combeferre kin to appreciate how sweet they are

5. Javonine??: im sorry wh aht. did the snape x hermione shippers leak into the lm fandom or am i being fucking punked im not discussing this its obvious why this is wrong please tell me its obvious y'all are NASTY

6. Marionine: eh. eh. i mean, like i said with enjonine eponine's problems are not gonna be solved with a dude. i'm really not opposed to them, persay, its just that eponine's love for marius is so incredibly dependent and rooted more in her personal trauma than actual love, so i feel a little weird with them sometimes. sometimes it just gives anti cosette vibes (cough cough bc of the bullshit love triangle angle that the musical markets cough cough) so i tread very carefully with them

7. Granjonine: again what in the damn hell. i'm not dignifying this shit they could be besties but for the love of god george blagden did a number on the straight girls. STOP PROJECTING ONTO EPONINE IM GONNA LOSE MY FUCKING MIND LEAVE HER ALONE

thanks for the ask lovely, i do love rambling even though these ships are baffling lmaoooo

[probably-enjolras]

can we have like a full rant on bbc Les mis

of course you can. im on my computer and ready to fucking yell lets do this

let’s start with some positive stuff before the negative, just so y’all know im not just hating on it 100%. i will watch it, and i don’t think the actors are at fault. i think @enjolryas said it best in this post here about the actors (specifically about grantaire’s actor) improving the show for Davies. if the actors are devoted to their characters, it can really help the show. If the actors are anything like George Blagden with the 2012 movie, i think we can get something decent out of the show. i don’t think this show has no hope. and i don’t think that it will be horribly made, i just have major concerns about the production, and Andrew Davies specifically.

with that, let’s start my rant. i truly have one major critique and that’s Andrew Davies…..

Andrew FUCKING Davies is getting on my last nerve with this. first of all, he’s REALLY out here trashing one of the most well known and influential musicals by calling it a “shoddy farrago”. he wants his adaptation to be true to the book, a straight adaptation from text to film, which is quite funny seeing as, a) not once, but TWICE, they’ve misspelled Javert’s name (Javier and Jalvert, which is funny seeing as the “shoddy farrago” of a musical made damn sure that we do not forget his name…), B) changed enjolras’ hair color from blond to brown when it’s EXPLICITLY stated to be blond many many many times in the book, and did the same thing with Fantine, as well as not giving enj his red coat, and C) the whole thing about adding a sex scene into it, when it’s 100% not necessary to the story line in any way. to me, that last thing is kinda like that santa sex scene in Master of the House in 2012, not necessary, kinda creepy, and just all around not what victor hugo wanted. if he’s gonna be preaching about his adaptation will be the best, then actually do what you’re saying you’re doing you asshole

this all pisses me off because this is the big stuff, it’s not changing a minor character slightly. every mistake has come with a major character and important piece of the story, and if they’re already messing up with that, how the FUCK are they going to faithfully adapt the brick to a show. 

and maybe it would be less of a problem if Davies wasn’t out here spouting his “holier than thou” bullshit. i may even forgive bc autocorrect gets the best of us (trust me, i run a les mis blog, autocorrect is not my friend) and maybe an actor doesn’t want to wear a wig, but if you’re really going to say that you’re being 100% faithful to the book, then fucking do it. 

those are my feelings about this, and i hope that i’m wrong and it turns out great and the coat is only gone for one scene, and the amis (who already look great btw) will pull through and make everything worth it, and we actually get certain things from the book (to be free, more with e and r, valjean going back to prison, jehan’s death, the handkerchief thing with marius, and so on), and it’ll all be great, but i don’t have confidence in this yet

i’ve been wary about it from the moment it was released. and now im worried that this fandom will get bigger based on an adaptation that screws over everything we love about it. 

i hope that suffices for your rant needs