#Gay relationships are normal relationships

[lmadsadness]

size difference checkkk-

good primus.

[justluxy]

Perverted Best Friend

Original Story so it’s probably shit

Basically this idea but expanded, Best Friend

Best Friend x Bottom Male Reader

TW: Gay Smut, Breeding kink, Fainting, (Also english is my second language so this story is probably horrible lmao)

Word Count: 2k

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The relationship between you and your best friend, Noah, was always weird. Since middle school students always used to tell you that he liked you. But you ignored them and continued with your life, not knowing that the rumors were true. Now both of you are at college and the rumors that he likes you are getting stronger and stronger. You always caught him looking at your ass when you wore shorts or when you changed in the locker rooms. He even touched your ass by “accident” multiple times, and as the gullible person you are, you always believed it was an accident. You thought that was normal because friends do that right?

Noah always thought about you… in a wild way. Always dreaming of fucking you. Always dreaming of you bouncing on his cock with you drooling and with an expression that only showed pure lust and pleasure. He always jerked off to your pictures and even managed to steal a piece of your underwear and came on them, smirking when you put them in knowing that has his cum in it. He only wanted to hear your pretty moans while he fucked you as hard as he could and fill you up with him seed. Also, he is very jealous, you are a very extroverted person so you have many friends, including guys. Noah always gets super jealous when you talk to them. He just wants to pick you and fuck you in front of your friends to show them who you belong to.

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“Perfect! Let’s have a sleepover in my house!” You said excitedly, you were going to have a sleepover with your best friend at your house where you and Noah will eat snacks and watch movies all night love… poor you, you didn’t know the things that were going to happen that night.

“Perfect! See you there in five minutes” Noah talked on the phone. He was very excited to see you and already had a plan to have you for himself. He smirked noticing that he already had a boner, maybe masturbating before going to your house wasn’t a bad idea.

…

“Hey Noah! Good to see you!” You said excitedly opening the door for him. His cologne smelled amazing to you, he always smelled really good. Especially when he came from the gym.

“Good to see you too,” Noah said, smiling with an innocent smile, a smile that hid a lot of perverted thoughts about you. He entered your house but before he did, he looked at your outfit and body. You were wearing just an oversized hoodie with small shorts… gosh he loved it.

After greeting him you and Noah went to the living room where you turned the movie on and prepared popcorn with sodas for the both of you. Now you were both sitting on the couch eating popcorn while watching the movie. You felt sleepy so you decided to rest your head on Noah’s shoulder. He took advantage of the situation to pull you closer by your waist.

You started to fall asleep and Noah looked at you. You look so beautiful, he just couldn’t resist but to start to kiss your neck. You started moaning in your sleep feeling his kisses. He started leaving hickeys in your neck, many of them just to show everyone in the world that you belonged to him. While doing that, his hand traveled under your hoodie and shirt. He started feeling your smooth chest and after a few seconds he started pinching your nipples. You started to wake up, opening your eyes slowly just to find Noah kissing your neck while playing with your nipples as you moaned louder.

“W-What are you doing N-Noah?” You managed to ask while still moaning. He just kissed the tip of your nose and said, “Just playing around… do you like it?” He said while rubbing his fingers on your nipples.

“I c-can’t deny it… i-it feels pretty nice to be honest…” You managed to say with a blush on your face. He smirked and continued to play with them while with his other hand rubbed your thighs getting closer and closer to your cock. He started rubbing his hand on your cock through your shorts that only made you moan more.

He started to pull your shorts down slightly and moved from your neck to your legs while you only moaned. He started to kiss your cock through your boxers, teasing you while he grabbed your ass. Gosh he loved your ass, so soft,... so smooth… so round… that was his favorite part of your body.

“God… I love your body…” He said while he kissed you on your lips. The kiss was hot and lustful but it was a bit romantic. You blushed, even though he was basically jerking you off, he could still be romantic, kissing you softly while caressing your waist softly.

Then he pulled your shorts and underwear down revealing your hard cock which compared to his, was tiny. He wrapped his hand around the base of your cock, giving it a few slow strokes teasing you. Then he leaned down and took the tip of your cock into his mouth, swirling his tongue around the sensitive head before taking more of your cock into his mouth. Then he stopped and you gave him a disappointed look. He smirked and took your hoodie off and after he took off all of his clothes and to your surprise… His cock was huge! It was nine inches, you have never seen a cock that big before!

“C’mom baby… come suck this cock and enjoy it” He said with a smirk and you obeyed, not knowing why. You got between his legs and wrapped his cock in your hand while he took a bunch of your hair. He gripped your hair tightly as you started to slowly lick and kiss the head of his cock, his hips bucking up slightly at the sensation. He bit back a moan, trying to hold back his eagerness as he looked down at you.

“Gosh I love your such pretty mouth…” He let out a soft moan as you took the head of his cock into your mouth, his grip on your hair tightening even more as he tried to contain himself. He couldn’t help but moan and groan as you started to bob your head up and down his length.

His hips bucked up involuntary, his control slipping as he began to thrust his hips up into your mouth. He let out a series of loud, desperate moans, his body teasing as he got closer and closer to the edge. Noah let out a loud moan as he came, his body arching as he released into your mouth. His grip on your hair was almost painful as he held you in place, riding out his orgasm as he filled your mouth with his seed.

“Good boy” He said smirking as he positioned you on all fours, admiring the view of your ass presented to him. He couldn’t help but reach out and give one of your cheeks a firm squeeze, his fingers digging into the soft flesh. You moaned, feeling his hands. He leaned forward and bit on your shoulder, his teeth leaving a mark on your skin as he trailed kisses down your spine. He then moved his hands to grip your hips, holding you in place as he positioned himself behind you. He started slowly pushing into you, his large cock stretching you open as he let out a moan.

“F-Fuck… s-so big agh…” You said when finally his large cock was inside of you. Noah paused for a moment giving you time to adjust to his size, before he started to move. He started with slow, deep thrusts, his grip on your hips tight as he set a steady pace. “F-Fuck… you’re so tight baby fuck… I love this ass” He said as he continued his slow thrusts.

He gradually increased the pace of his thrusts, his hips snapping against yours with great force. His fingers dug deeper into your hips, sure to leave bruises as he claimed you as his own. “F-Fuck… agh” You moaned feeling that he smacked your ass, the sound of his hand echoing through the room. He gripped your hair with his other hand, pulling your head back as he continued to pound into you. He smirked as he saw how your body reacted to the spank. He gave your ass another smack, this time harder than before, as he leaned forward to speak to you in your ear, “You like this don’t you? You like your ass being spanked little slut” He said as he continued to thrust into you.

Noah continued to pound into you mercilessly, his grip on your hair keeping your head back and exposing your neck to him. He took advantage of your exposed skin, leading down to bite and suck at your neck, leaving marks all over showing who you belonged to. He felt himself getting closer and closer to coming, his thrusts became more erratic and desperate as he neared his release. He let out a string of moans and curses, his breath hot against your ear as he continued to mark your neck. “F-Fuck I’m close… I-I’m gonna fill you up baby, are you ready?” You could only let moans and moans so you just nodded at his words.

He slammed into you one last time, burying himself deep inside you as he reached his peak. He let out a loud, guttural moan as he came, his body shuddering with pleasure as he filled you up with his hot seed. At the same time you let out a loud moan that sounded like a porn star’s moan, finally reaching your orgasm as you felt his hot cum inside of you. “T-That was amazing… I have always dreamed of having you like this all to myself…” You chuckled, “So all the rumors that you liked me since middle school were true?” You asked curiously, “Of course haha… how could I resist your charm and this beautiful ass?” He said spanking your ass playfully.

“Mmm.. I think I want more… “ He said, hiding his face on your neck, giving you soft kisses, “mmm.. Why not?” You said smirking, eagerly for feeling his hot cum inside of you again.

He gently flipped you over so that you were laying on your back. He leaned down to capture your lips in a deep, hungry kiss, his tongue dominating yours as he claimed your mouth. His hands roamed over your body, his touch gentle as his hands reached your ass, giving it a small squeeze while with his finger played with your sensitive hole.

Both of you continued fucking until you fainted out of exhaustion, he smiled and stopped thrusting into you as he kissed your chest slowly as he pulled out of you and went to the bathroom to get towels and warm water to clean your body. After he finished he hugged you and fall asleep next to you and he smiled softly, finally his dream came true, he was hugging his crush and had finally fucked him, he was the happiest man alive. 

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You woke up and saw him sleeping next to you, you smiled seeing his cute expression while he slept. Then you noticed that your body was cleaned and you felt happy that at least he cleaned you. You hugged him. After a few minutes he opened his eyes slowly looking at you, “Morning baby how did you sleep?” He said with a caring tone, “Fine… that was the best orgasm I had in years”, You said chuckling while he smirked, “Wanna do it again?” He said while his hands squeezed your ass, “Happy too…”

Since it was Saturday, the day was long for both of you. You and him fucked the whole day, finally your best friend’s dream came true, and you were more than happy to be with him and to feel his cum inside of your ass over and over again.

[aryesdanger24]

I will be honest, I've seen the post a lot too and to me it has a different meaning. I think it is showing 2 different types of relationships. Not just wlw and mlm relationships, but the idea that there is a 3rd options that both are important. That even though one ship isn't shown in a physical way that doesn't mean it is any less gay than cannon ship.

For too long gay relationships were only shown through physicality, specifically gay men in relationships is always shown in aggressive physicality while lesbians in media feel overly said more than seen, less physical and more mental.

This feels like it flips the script on a lot of the stereotype that lesbians in films are always soft touches rather than heavy physical touches and quick to act like CaitVi (yes i know there is a joke about how fast lesbian relationships move, but i meant in media it often doesn't show that).

Men on the otherside often get straight (hehe) to fucking to 'confirm' their sexualitys or relationships whereas this with Jayvik is very much that soft word filled confirmations of love.

So this meme doesn't feel like a 'haha look at this and compare' as much as it feels like a 'id like to bring your attention to how these relationships went and how confusing this will be for the straights to compare'.

Also I think it is people just wondering why Jayvik didn't get their happy ending rather than just bypassing CaitVi and their more traditionally happy ending.

I think it's people who don't know how to process what happened with Jayvik so they are comparing how CaitVi got a normal ending and the confusion of how to deal with Jayvik.

In short:

Wlw relationships are much harder to come by and many people are happy that Caitlyn and Vi got all the good writing into their characters to really enjoy the progress of their relationship. Jayviks's ending is more confusing that people can't help but compare and wonder (in the words of Arcane) what could have been.

This post, to me, is subjective to the viewer. Some can see it as trashing on CaitVi or on Jayvik. Some may interpret it as a show to how different their endings can be in the media of today. Some may even view it as the idea that despite a ship not being cannon, it can be just as gay and important as one shown on screen.

I personally love both of their endings and hate both for different reasons. Their pros and cons to each and yet it fit for them in a way I can't be mad at BECAUSE they are so well written as characters!

P.S. I didnt make the meme at all but I simply wanted to not assume the makers goal of sharing it into one of negativity. Unless the main poster is definitely some mlm supremacist or lesbian hater or something because then, by all means, bash that bitcherous. Until I see some evidence against the original meme maker I will just see it the way I see it, a way someone is coping with their idea of an 'unsatisfying' ending for Jayvik by comparing it to the more canonically physical confirmation of CaitVi

(Personally, I don't find the endings dissatifying, though, but that's just me)

Someone else's post:

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I have seen so many posts like the one above in the last 24 hours and honestly, it's starting to piss me off. I know the majority of tumblr users aren't wlw, but do you know how patronising this kind of thing is? This was the most beautiful, intimate, lovingly animated lesbian sex scene, between two rich, well-drawn, compelling characters, but over and over, I see people comparing it unfavourably to Jayce and Viktor's final scene. The story between two men is seen as more powerful, more meaningful, gayer, deeper, than the one between two women.

Look, it's fine to enjoy the mlm ship more. I support you! I think Jayvik is cool! But can you all please, please, stop acting like it's inherently better just because the lesbian story didn't happen to be written for your personal tastes, this one time?

(Also, to answer the question: as a lesbian, I promise you, the lesbian sex is much, much gayer. You're just not the target audience.)

[nylloth]

My opinion about Arcane s2 (mostly Viktor)

I'm trying to be neutral on this, but I'm upset with what they did to Viktor.

I was wrong about their relationship with Sky (but I had hope), you can see he never really cared for her and the animators put their all into conveying that. Plus, let's say Sky represents Viktor's humanity and Viktor himself gives up on her. And it's a lot easier for him to give her up than it is for Jayce, who he's trying to show this new “world” to.

They have a lot of gay moments with Jayce, I don't know why the writers call it “family”. It's really hard to see family in that. It seems like at some point they decided to change the plot, because at the end Jayce and Viktor just disappear and no one just doesn't care what Jayce has with Mel.

The thing I didn't like the most was how they changed Ryze, that now Ryze is Viktor, the all-powerful mage. We know from the documentary that it was Ryze at one point. That would make more sense than Viktor traveling through time and constantly dooming himself to a series of miseries. But then again, they added the “all for Jayce” aspect to it.

You can see it's supposed to be a different character, right?

I really didn't like how they treated Sky because obviously she wasn't an evil manipulative core. Viktor killed her twice for his own purposes. Once by accident, the second time on purpose. Look, you add a girl who is IN LOVE with a man, make her die twice for him, and show WHY he doesn't care. It's a dirty act. Amanda said she was “proud to write Sky”, I don't know what there is to be proud of. As a woman, it was painful for me to watch. You didn't have to do that. Did you mean to say the character is gay? You don't have to humiliate women to do that.

I always hoped Viktor wouldn't have any romantic innuendos because feelings, for Herald, are a weakness. But the fact that they're indulging JayVik fans makes it look NOTHING like that. Like, I'm not a fan of this ship, but even I don't consider what they showed as brotherly feelings. Especially from Viktor's side. He is literally too concerned with Jayce's opinion.

I also think that the writers largely emphasized the clips and fights, but didn't add to the story itself. I mean Silco's deep thoughts in the first season on political topics and the theme of family in general was shown much better.

Herald is essentially non-existent. It's a character for the last two episodes who is immediately killed off because of a few words from Jayce. Viktor returns and they vaporize somewhere. I take it this is starting a recurring time loop.

They kind of tried to put in Viktor's “here he's come to the realization on his own that humanity is bad”, but they did it SO FAST and literally because of one event that it looked bad. Yeah, it's not about hexcore. VIKTOR SUPPOSEDLY CAME TO THIS ON HIS OWN. Why? Because Jayce shot him, and then Jayce helped him realize otherwise. No, really, what was that?

I also didn't like the redesign. I was hoping the mask would look different, but it looks HORRIBLE.

It's supposed to give the impression that Viktor “shut down and withdrew into himself”, they also tried to make him a “deity”, but since it only lasted 20 minutes before he went back to his normal state, it didn't make any sense… Anyway… I sympathize with everyone who loved Viktor specifically, outside jayvik ship (happy for you guys). I know they are excited, but this is not Viktor's story. You see, Viktor doesn't have his own personal story now, he's too connected to Jayce. You could say he did everything and nothing at the same time. Because he keeps running this time loop, but he's running it because of Jayce's influence.

Waiting for his updated lore to read….. idk I'll read it and forget it like a bad dream.

[valenteal]

I think the Arcane fandom has one thing majorly wrong…

JayVik is not the gay representation. It’s queer platonic/aro ace representation.

We have CaitVi for homosexual representation, Timebomb for bisexual representation, Jayce/Mel for straight representation, and JayVik for queer platonic. I don’t see anything sexual or romantic between them, but they are partners, they prioritize each other over their romantic relationships, they love each other, they would break the laws of the universe for each other and they have no interest in having sex with each other. It’s important that non-sexual but deeply committed relationships get screen time. We know Arcane isn’t just cowardly about homosexual relationships on screen, the fact that they weren’t together was a choice made intentionally. They don’t need to be romantically together to be the most important people in each other’s lives!

Queer platonic relationships are just as valid as romantic ones and people need to normalize that. Normalize complete exclusive commitment in platonic relationships please!!!!!!!!!!!

[call-me-chips]

Hey, could any of the christians/christ followers on here please pray for me?

Religious trauma(?) warning

(Idk if this counts as religious trauma or not)

Don't know how to word this, so bear with me

I've decided to stop pursuing a relationship with God, because trying to do so has just been detrimental to my mental health

Every time I go to church, everyone there is putting up their hands, singing, some are even on their knees. And here I am, having never experienced God, and feeling like he's there. I've always felt alone in that sense

He's never answered my prayers, and because of this, I've doubted his existence since I was like, 10. When I was having nightmares and couldn't sleep, I tried praying with mother, but I always had to calm myself because I felt no comfort at all, prayer after prayer

I've really started struggling over the past few years as I've started finding my sexuality and gender identity. Although I feel happy with who I am, I still have a LOT of doubts. I've been told all my life that gays go to hell, and although I don't believe that God would create people just to send them to hell, it's still a prominent thought. I've quite literally been sobbing on the floor dozens of times, begging God to show me ANY sign from him that being gay is either wrong or right, he hasn't answered me at all. It's just been me crying at the wind. Nothing.

I can't change who I am or who I like, and it really scares me that I could be sent to eternal torment because of it. If I could choose to be a normal, cishet person, I absolutely would, no hesitation, just to remove all doubt and fear

I really wanna believe that god exists, but I'm really not sure at this point. Every time I try to pray, I wanna cry because I feel nothing, while EVERYONE ELSE seems to have a relationship with God and is happy. I dread going to church because I nearly cry every time I see everyone in the room worshipping and genuinely enjoying being there. I just feel so tired of trying and done with God and christianity

So yeah, if any of the religious people could please pray for me, that would be very appreciated /nf :)

[sundemonlord]

Probably gonna piss a lot of people off on the

"Be gay do crimes" website but like

Some of us - trans, intersex, and queer - are not attracted to equally queer people.

As in: some of us don't want to be in t4t relationships.

As in: some of us want to be in what are "essentially" straight relationships.

As in: some of us want to be with someone who compliments us, may even be in some opposition, but aren't within the SAME EXACT community

Bc that's just how attraction is.

And it isn't a choice. It isn't self hate.

Like. I'm not sure how many of you realize what you're saying is harmful or exclusionary in a way that it doesn't need to be.

Lastly: as someone who is at the intersection of many existences?

I STILL have to educate a mf -- whether they're within my demographic or not.

I STILL have to explain things -- about my basic likes and desires -- that should be normal. Would be normal if other mf could just, yk. Be fucking normal about trans men like me.

Trans men like me being "was a tomboy, then stud lesbian, now trans man with same desires etc"

That goes for the people I'm interested in platonically or romantically.

Shit is exhausting.

[devilith]

"why are we normalizing gay and lesbian relationships in media?" is probably the most blatantly homophobic thing ive heard in a long ass time. jesus fucking christ

do they know that not all Yuri and Yaoi fans are heavy fetishers?

like the Yaoi and Yuri they probably saw was all hentai lmao

and no ppl fandoms don't just disapper

and that fact that they getting upset and wants a real human abandoned over a fictional ship shows they're sensitivy and lack of common sense ☠️

[nickelbag610-blog]

Ravenpaw's Farewell is Very Gay.

So I just finished Ravenpaw's Farewell and it was actually a good send off for the character. It would have also been the perfect tragic gay love story that wasn't just a burry your gays story. If they actually had the balls to call them partners/mates. But no they were just roommates guys.

God it's kinda disappointing because this story has a lot of potential and they wouldn't have even had to change that much. Just refer to them as mates and keep everything else the same. Gay relationship deserve to be represented by name not just hinted at. And RF could have actually taught a lot had they just simply referred to them as gay.

It could have shown an older gay couple who were pass the honeymoon faze and just living their normal every day life. Because in Ravenpaw's Farewell specifically they had been together for years. So it makes since for them to be comfortable enough in their relationship that they don't have to be consiently showing affection. And sleeping in the same nest, hunting for each other and just general domestic stuff will show them as normal. Because gay relationships are normal.....

Had they been gay honestly the theme of "Do what you want to do with your life" honestly would have been a lot stronger. Because Ravenpaw running away to escape death is probably a very unfortunate reality some LGBT people have to face. So they can relate to him. Now Ravenpaw's reason for running away had nothing to do with his sexuality but that's okay. As people can still relate to that relief of being somewhere safe, of having good memories of a place you were run out of, of having people you still care about still live in that place you weren't safe in but they support you. And I like how they handle these feelings. Ravenpaw found " a good friend" in his new place of safety. His "best friend" walks with him to his birthplace so Ravenpaw can reminisce and Ravenpaw trust Barely enough to talk to him about his complicated feelings of his original home. And Barely trust him enough to bring up his insecurities about Ravenpaw possible leaving him due to how much Ravenpaw talks up his time there. But Ravenpaw is mature enough to reassure "his best friend" that he won't leave him and Ravenpaw admits he uses his good memories to burry his bad ones. But does still remember his bad memories. Ravenpaw reassures his partner that he doesn't regret leaving and his place is with him.

Ravenpaw has strong desire to help Barley's niece and nephew be warriors because they really want to be. And that causing a fight. But that fight is a normal martial fight. Not a relationship ending one or a little one. But one where the couple have ideation differences. And they fight but don't immediately break up or go one break but rather sleep in different beds and give each other space. But still care about each other even if they are mad. Because before Ravenpaw and the kits leave Barley feeds them all before going on a walk to get some space. While we don't know what Barley is thinking he does eventually catch up with the three. And Ravenpaw is so happy and Barley does the completely normal thing and admits he was wrong and supports his "total best friend" and will go with him for surpost and protection. And Barley absolutely showers Ravenpaw in love by saying how brave his is. Which makes since because Ravenpaw had a lot of anxiety while in Thunderclan so him telling him how brave he is, is probably very important to Ravenpaw.

When being threatened by the kittypets Barely (who is the stronger of the two as at this point Ravenpaw is weak and dying of Stomach cancer) puts himself in front of Ravenpaw to protect him. To note Barley is nice and doesn't like to fight due to his own past trauma but he doesn't hesitate to defend his sick "friend." Once they are allowed in Skyclan Barley goes on a hunting patrol and tries extra hard so Ravenpaw can rest. As Barely is worried and noticed Ravenpaw wasn't doing to well and wanted him to rest. And even as Ravenpaw is dying he begs Barley to help him in one last fight. As Ravenpaw wants to fight as a warrior one last time. And dispite Barley not wanting him too. He understands how important it is to Ravenpaw and dispite his tears agrees to fight side by side with Ravenpaw. And after the fight is over Barley begs Ravenpaw to relax but Ravenpaw wants to celebrate with the clan. He and Barley attend the ceremony that Barley's niece and nephew get as they join Skyclan. And as Ravenpaw is dying Echosong and Barley take him to a soft patch of grass and Barley shakes with sadness as he trying hiding it form Ravenpaw as he cuddles with him one last time. And the two's last conversation is giving comfort to each other. At the end Ravenpaw gives up Heaven ,as he was raised to believe it, to wait for his "best friend". You know the heaven that has everyone he knew growing up, his parents, siblings, friend, old leader, are in. But gives it all up so he can be with/ look over Barley. He also rejects a warrior name because he was Ravenpaw for most of his life and it's what his "best friend" knows him as.

The writers gave Ravenpaw the maturity they were to scared to give Firestar. When given the choice Ravenpaw doesn't even hesitate when he says he WANTS to be with Barley. Because Ravenpaw is mature enough to understand his husband of like 7 years (which in cat years must be like 40 years) is more important to him then a group he was with for under a year. While still important Ravenpaw probably took Barley insecurities about Ravenpaw choosing his old clan over him to heart and that probably helped with his destination. Because the two firmly believe their home is with each other.

It's a beautiful end because Barley sacrifices so much for Ravenpaw in this book alone. And I love that Ravenpaw returns that love by sacrificing his place is Starclan to wait and eternally be together with Barley. The aren't a great gay couple because they never fight or agree with each other on everything or are perfect at everything. They would have been a great gay couple because they realize that no amount of luxury, or safety, or food, or happiness can replace the love and trust they have with each other. They may fight but at the end of the day neither would want to be rid of the other. Because they WANT to be there for the other as much as the other WANT the other in their life. And that's truer love then most romance in Warriors. They deserved each other and deserved better from the company who said their love was inappropriate.

[welcometogrouchland]

Extremely bad batgirls comic I made featuring Steph's sex life and Cass' ability to read everything but the room

[darkmuffinstudios]

They’re so gay I mean what I mean

[wombywoo]

ID 🪪

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

There is a platonic explanation for all this. Right?

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[pseudophan]

"who needs a hard launch when-" "the hard launch was-" "this was the real hard launch" and every time it's just another soft launch because no one knows what anything means

[loosethreadsofyoursoul]

while i will always love and appreciate the bisexual dean winchester agenda, i truly believe that if he was raised differently—or maybe if he grew up today instead—that boy would have been gay. like his love for women in a romantic/sexual context was always such a caricature and was continuously used as a symbol of masculinity that played against the roles assigned to him by his father growing up for the sake of suppressing any queerness he might exhibit. now whether that suppression was purposely written into his character or was a reaction to the character they had created, i’m not sure, but it’s there regardless.

i don’t mean to dismiss the love he felt for cassie or lisa, but particularly with lisa, i’m not sure he was ever in love with her, despite the fact that he did care for both her and ben. i get so frustrated watching the end of s5 because him going to her house and his perfect “apple pie life” being with her in suburbia genuinely came out of nowhere and i’ve never understood a) why it had to happen, and b) why it had to be lisa. but thinking about it in this sense, she was the closest thing he had in his life to everything he was raised to believe he should want by one john winchester, who lost his perfect wife, perfect family, perfect apple pie life and sent all of them down this path in the first place. so of course to dean, his happy ending would be with someone like lisa. but that’s the important part. someone like lisa, not lisa herself. he may have had love for her and he may have been able to picture a life with her, but it wasn’t necessarily because she was everything he wanted; she was a symbol of the things that tore his family apart and so to be with her felt like he was finally able to put some of it back together. and that makes me so sad for him because all of that is a result of the sense of responsibility ingrained in him growing up by john, not something he wanted for himself.

but back to his general attitude towards women, there was an excellent post that said he only acts like the typical womanizer he has a reputation for being around women deemed “stereotypical” by the misogynistic perspective. otherwise, he tends to take on a fairly brotherly role; he doesn’t tend to pursue any women he can “take seriously,” and is more intimidated or impressed by them than anything else. with the exception of cassie (which was pre-series and we never got full context for in the first place), he only ever pursued women with whom he would have a definitive ending—by that i mean women who he knows he’ll never see again or who would have a clearly defined role during the time they’re together that wouldn’t threaten the status quo. and yes these could also be the traits of a commitment-phobe or someone chronically on the move, but for one, sam doesn’t tend to do the same thing (see ruby, amelia, and eileen), and for two, given the things i mentioned already, it makes me consider it more of a result of him not actually being interested in women romantically.

his reaction to women when not purposely used as the butt of a joke or to perpetuate the “womanizer dean winchester” agenda is often so innately fraternal, caring in a way that doesn’t have any expectations behind it. and when there is a romantic context, so much of the relationship can be attributed to the way john raised him and the beliefs he has as a direct result; it’s never simply been built on the foundation of love.

every time he is dismissed as this macho het guy, it also dismisses so much of what makes him a wonderful character, and yes a lot of that is his queerness. so in a world where he didn’t grow up with roles and responsibilities that shaped him into someone he knew his dad hated and forced him to create this character for himself in order to survive? i think he would have been gay and he would have been okay with that.

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i’m sorry i’m still trying to process the fact that in the FIRST FUCKING EPISODE of loki s2 we had mobius ready and willing to DIE just for the slightest chance to save loki . without a single second thought. he was just like ok yeah ofc let’s do this incredibly dangerous thing that no one has ever attempted before because of how deadly it is. yeah ok my skin might fall off but i’m still doing it . and the amount of arm touches and soft conversations and meaningful looks and the part where loki fucking LANDED RIGHT ON TOP OF HIM😭 i’m losing my mind actually