#Gary Salter

[panther-os]

Full Name and Family Headcanons

For the extended 141 family plus the fruity bastard betrayer (derogatory (affectionate)), some more complete than others. If any of this is directly contradicted by canon, I don't care, that's why they're headcanons

Soap

John Steven Donald MacTavish

Two loving parents, the youngest with at least 3 older siblings, all sisters. Closely enough related to the Chief of the Name and Arms of MacTavish to a) be considered low upper class and b) know his exact place in the line of hereditary succession. Also the kilt he wears on special occasions is always the modern MacTavish tartan, do your research. Grew up in Bonnyrigg outside Edinburgh and is emotionally attached to Sir Salter Scott

Ghost

Simon Lorcán Riley

Same family and circumstances as '09 Ghost (extremely poor, abusive dad, oldest of two boys), but give him loving maternal grandparents and three cousins. He's Irish by ethnicity and heritage, which a few family members kept alive and passed down to him, but British by nationality. His great-great-(great-?)grandparents migrated to Manchester during the Great Hunger, but his aunt moved back to Ballylongford where some of the family originally lived. His cousins and maternal grandmother are all alive but think he's dead and he keeps it that way for their safety. His middle name is after his maternal grandfather who died when he was young and was given to him by his grandma. I do also hc he's trans and have a deadname headcanon for him but I don't share those. The specific neighborhood he grew up in inside Manchester was Beswick

Gaz

Kyle Adam Garrick

Grew up in Brixton in London, relatively poor with two loving but working parents, but also with an enormous tight-knit community and more neighborhood aunties and uncles and cousins than he knew what to do with. Has one baby sister but she's 20 years younger than him so she's a baby baby and he was already enlisted and moved out when she was born

Price

John Matthew Price

Grew up in Anfield in Liverpool, near the football stadium. Avid fan, ropes Ghost into Liverpool vs Man United debates every season. Ghost doesn't even like football. Middle class, working dad and stay at home mom, older sister, younger sister

Roach

Gary Parker Sanderson

Working poor, older sister, younger brother

Laswell

Katherine Emma Laswell

Middle class child of divorce, no step-siblings or step-parents, lesbian wine aunt who's basically Kate Kane (coincidentally Kate's favorite superhero)

Nikolai

Nikolai Antonovich Pokrovsky

Absent parents, one younger sister

Farah

Farah Leyla Karim

Canon family - two loving parents killed by AQ, one older brother. Her middle name is the Georgian spelling of the Arabic name Layla (see my post about Urzikstan and Abkhazia for why this spelling)

Alex

Alexander Jeremiah Keller

Two older sisters, two triplet sisters (one an hour older, one three hours younger), two younger sisters, single mom, also raised by aunt and grandmother

Alejandro

Alejandro Ernesto Vargas Leon

Grew up working poor, dad died when he was three, mom had to work, older brother 4ys older took jobs for the cartel starting at 12-ish to make ends meet and left Ale as the "man of the house" at 8. Also has one 4ys younger sister (same dad, mom was pregnant) and 12ys younger twin baby brothers (different dad who chose not to be in the picture, oopsie babies). He loves the twins but wants to hang them upside down by their shoelaces more often than not, his sister is just as mischievous but more mature and subtle about it which made her easier to raise

Rudy

Rodolfo Ildefonso Parra Rosales

Born into a poor family, cartel killed his parents when he was three, adopted by a single mom after that. His new family is unrelated to the Cartel but his bisabuela is just as feared and respected as El Sin Nombre and La Araña before her, if not more in some parts of the city. Learned his best chancla skills from her. Only child but grew up in a massive multigenerational multifamily home with at least 20 older cousins - was the baby until he was 7 and now he's the second youngest

Graves

Phillip Windsor Graves

Upper class, born to parents who had an heir to the company because it was expected of them but who didn't actually want or like kids. Essentially raised by a rotating cast of nannies

[mystic-myrtille]

It always bother me that Lukanette/Luka salters (or antis) arguments are always like "Luka is so boring and bland" or "he's a gary stue" or "marinette treats Luka like a rebound and a plan b" basically any arguments that get your brain to stop braining

While them being the same people defending Adri/////chat and excusing/justifying his behaviour in episodes like Syren, Glaciator, Copycat, Lies, Hack-san, Kuro Neko, Chat blanc and etc and etc and etc You name it!

they even make Luka/Marinette Way too OOC in the salt fics (it's even worse since it's trash square endgame, they make Marinette a terrible gf or they make Luka an abusive, terrible toxic piece of shit)

Meanwhile us salters have every single good reasons to despise adri////chat and the L////S

we make salt fics that actually capture adrichat's mentality and behaviour

We even show how toxic the trash square is just like in canon

Lmao reminds me of how when season 4 started airing people were accusing Luka of being manipulative for asking Mari a question about their relationship when before they were complaining about how he lets her walk over him like a doormat with no backbone. At least he’s able to communicate

[flightfoot]

You know, it just hit me that a good chunk of the salt going around is just salters reading the show as author's objective intent instead of a biased deep Marinette POV.

Like Marinette seeming to be blamed for a lot of things unfairly? It could just be Marinette blaming herself as it is canon that she catastrophises things out of proportions. Complaints about the narrative seeing Adrien as a perfect do-no-wrong Gary Stu and its refusal to acknowledge his flaws? Marinette has a rose tinted view of him thanks to her huge crush. No one criticizing Chat Noir's less than heroic acts and not being as useful as Ladybug? Marinette is forgiving and understanding and doesn't hold most of it against Chat Noir. Heck, maybe Marinette herself subconsciously underestimates him (there are a few dialogues, especially in early seasons, that indicate so), hence, his downplayed role. Alya being an enabler of her worst traits not being called out on? Marinette appreciates her constant support amd encouragement and both teens aren't aware of the more negative conotations of some of their actions (and its not like Alya doesn't draw the line at anything, but salters are just gonna salt on her whenever she does). Chloe's wasted redemption arc and Zoe subsequently getting shilled into her place when she doesnt deserve it? Marinette is not obligated to forgive Chloe nor does she have to keep working with her if she doesn't want to, especially when there's this shiny new person she would prefer to have on her team. Master Fu still being depicted as a good mentor while Master Su Han being nothing more than a straightman not allowed to be right? Between the two, at least Fu was kind and tried to help Marinette while Su Han did nothing but scold her. Despite having good points, Su Han didn't really help her at all while Fu did the bare minimum... Before foisting his responsibilities on her, but Marinette doesn't see it that way.

The actual writing has a lot of flaws in general and does rely on a lot of suspension of disbelief, which has been pushed too far for some, I am not defending that. There are narrative choices that I myself don't like. But thinking of the show as a heavily biased deep Marinette POV with a few breaks here and there makes sense to me as she is their intended protagonist. It helps me accept a lot of things about the show.

I mean, it kind of depends on the specifics of what's being talked about. Like, we see things from a third-person view, so we can see objectively the facts of what's happening.

But you're right about a lot of the framing being from Marinette's point of view, which isn't exactly unbiased. Like, Marinette thinking that no one listens to her, as Marinette, in Risk. It's true that people didn't really believe her in that case, since she was making a major claim about Adrien that didn't align with what other people saw, and was advocating for action that could potentially be harmful if she was wrong. But it's not a case of people never listening to Marinette, and just listening to Ladybug. People would listen to Ladybug because when it comes to things that are Miraculous-related, she IS an authority figure on that, more than anyone else they might interact with is. While with Marinette... well, her classmates do listen to her about most things, just not everything. Marinette's not an authority figure on other people's relationships or feelings the way that Ladybug is an authority on the Miraculous. So that was less of an objective statement by the narrative, and more something that was framed from Marinette's POV.

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Rose Morgan, who still lives with her mother, is a professor of Romantic Literature who desperately longs for passion in her life. Gregory Larkin, a mathematics professor, has been burned by passionate relationships and longs for a sexless union based on friendship and respect. Credits: TheMovieDb. Film Cast: Rose Morgan: Barbra Streisand Gregory Larkin: Jeff Bridges Hannah Morgan: Lauren Bacall Henry Fine: George Segal Claire: Mimi Rogers Alex: Pierce Brosnan Doris: Brenda Vaccaro Barry: Austin Pendleton Candy: Elle Macpherson First Girl Student: Ali Marsh Sara Myers: Leslie Stefanson Female Professor: Taina Elg Felicia: Lucy Avery Brooks Felicia (Video): Amber Smith Claire’s Masseur: David Kinzie Rabbi: Howard S. Herman Reverend: Thomas Hartman Trevor: Trevor Ristow Mike (Student): Brian Schwary Randy (Student): Randy Pearlstein Stacie (Student): Stacie Sumter Taxi Stealer: Cindy Guyer Taxi Driver: Thomas Saccio Waiter: Andrew Parks Jimmy the Waiter: Jimmy Baio Henry’s First Date: Emma Fann Henry’s Second Date: Laura Bailey Justice of the Peace: Mike Hodge Gloria: Anne O’Sullivan Female Student: Sandi Schroeder Female Student: Kiyoko M. Hairston Male Student: Ben Weber Male Student: Christopher Keyes Female Aerobic Instructor: Lisa Wheeler Male Aerobic Instructor: Kirk Moore Make-Up Artist: Regina Viotto Hair Colorist: Paul LaBreque Waiter: Rudy Ruggiero Mr. Jenkins: William Cain Doorman: Adam LeFevre Irate Woman: JoAn Mollison Opera Man: Carlo Scibelli Male Student: Eli Roth Girl in Commercial (uncredited): Milla Jovovich Film Crew: Theme Song Performance: Barbra Streisand Screenplay: Richard LaGravenese Casting: Todd M. Thaler Production Design: Tom H. John Executive Producer: Cis Corman Casting: Bonnie Finnegan Editor: Jeff Werner Original Music Composer: Marvin Hamlisch Director of Photography: Dante Spinotti Costume Design: Theoni V. Aldredge Original Story: Gérard Oury Co-Executive Producer: Ronald L. Schwary Location Manager: Declan Baldwin First Assistant Director: Amy Sayres Director of Photography: Andrzej Bartkowiak Producer: Arnon Milchan Production Accountant: Tamara Bally Original Story: André Cayatte Hairstylist: Susan Germaine Makeup Artist: Randy Houston Mercer Chief Lighting Technician: William Ward Rigging Gaffer: James Malone Production Coordinator: Lori Johnson Camera Operator: Dick Mingalone Casting Assistant: Gayle Keller Sound Editor: Mark Larry Sound Editor: Steven Ticknor Sound Editor: John M. Colwell Assistant Costume Designer: Kevin Brainerd Actor’s Assistant: Renata Buser Sound Editor: Chuck Neely Unit Production Manager: Tony Mark Steadicam Operator: Gregory Lundsgaard Makeup Artist: Edouard F. Henriques Production Supervisor: Ray Quinlan Camera Operator: Patrick Capone Theme Song Performance: Bryan Adams Set Decoration: Alan Hicks Supervising Sound Editor: Charles L. Campbell Assistant Sound Editor: Jerry Edemann Assistant Editor: Marilyn Madderom Stunt Coordinator: Vince Deadrick Jr. Art Direction: Teresa Carriker-Thayer Script Supervisor: Karen Kelsall Production Sound Mixer: Tom Nelson Craft Service: Roger Poirier Supervising ADR Editor: Gail Clark Burch Assistant Property Master: Travis Wright Second Unit Director of Photography: Richard Quinlan Orchestrator: Jack Hayes Unit Publicist: Stanley Brossette Property Master: Thomas Saccio Transportation Co-Captain: Dennis Radesky Assistant Sound Editor: Keith Edemann Additional Editing: Alan Heim Foley: Alicia Stevenson Supervising Music Editor: Charles Martin Inouye Orchestrator: Torrie Zito Boom Operator: Daniel Rosenblum ADR Editor: Laura Graham Chief Lighting Technician: Jay Fortune Rigging Grip: Matthew Miller Sound Re-Recording Mixer: Kevin O’Connell Sound Editor: Ronald Eng Sound Editor: Harry Cheney Sound Editor: Richard C. Franklin Hairstylist: John Quaglia Sound Editor: Leonard T. Geschke Scenic Artist: Leslie Salter Camera Operator: Gary Jay First Assistant Camera: Steve Adcock Sound Editor: John H. Arrufat Foley: Marko Costanzo Still Photographer: David James Music Supervisor: Jay Landers Assistant Sound E...

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Birthdays 3.21

Beer Birthdays

Sampson Salter (1692)

William Worthington (1723)

Gabriel Sedlmayr (1772)

Anton Dreher Jr. (1849)

Pierre Celis (1925)

Iain Gately (1966)

Five Favorite Birthdays

Timothy Dalton; actor (1946)

Roger Hodgson; rock musician (1950)

Eddie James "Son" House; blues musician (1902)

Modest Mussorgsky; composer (1839)

Ayrton Senna; Brazilian formula 1 racer (1960)

Famous Birthdays

Matthew Broderick; actor (1962)

Peter Brook; film director (1925)

Solomon Burke; pop singer (1940)

James Coco; actor (1930)

Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier; mathematician, physicist (1768)

Al Freeman Jr.; actor (1934)

Julio Gallo; winemaker (1910)

Cynthia Geary; actor (1965)

Walter Gilbert; chemist (1932)

Benito Juarez; Mexican politician (1806)

Francis Lewis; signer of the Declaration of Independence (1713)

Forrest Mars; candymaker (1904)

Phyliss McGinley; poet (1905)

Russ Meyer; film director (1946)

Eddie Money; rock musician (1949)

Rosie O'Donnell; actor, comedian (1962)

Gary Oldman; actor (1958)

Adrian Peterson; Minnesota Viking RB (1985)

Jean Paul Richter; German writer (1763)

James Jesse Strang; king of the Mormons (1813)

Charles Thompson; jazz pianist (1918)

Florenz Ziegfeld; theatre producer (1869)

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Apart from Dean Wilson, who else predicted the result against Middlesborough? Brian Horne on the Millwall summer camp in Portugal and Stringfellows in the 80s. Paul Loding - Come and join training at 7.30 pm at St Pauls, Salter Road. Millwall Lionesses reviewed. PLUS

[xtruss]

A Look Back At Waco — 30 Years After The Siege

— By Gavin Newsham

Charismatic "cult" leader David Koresh was the head of the Branch Davidians, and was killed in April 1993 by government agents during a raid on his Waco, Tx. compound following a 51-day standoff with the FBI and ATF. Three decades after the tragedy, its few survivors -- and those who tried to negotiate their release -- contend the outcome could have been far less deadly. Shutterstock

There was a time when David Thibodeau didn’t think about the events outside of Waco, Texas. back in April 1993.

Now 54 and living in Maine, Thibodeau was too busy drumming in his band to allow himself to relive the horrors of what took place there. “In a way, you start to forget and it kind of goes away,” he tells The New YorkPost.

“But then you turn on the TV and there will be footage of the burning buildings and it all comes flooding back.”

Thibodeau was one of just nine people to leave the blazing Mount Carmel Center alive following a 51-day standoff between the FBI and the center’s residents – the religious community known as Branch Davidians.

The standoff ended in the deaths of 76 people, burned alive as FBI attempts to end the siege failed catastrophically.

Thirty years later, Thibodeau’s almost surreal recollections of what took place typify the experiences of the few who managed to survive – as well as many of the law-enforcement agents and negotiators who attempted to deliver them to safety.

Top: Heather Jones was one of a handful of Branch Davidians to survive the government siege on their compound near Waco, Texas. Bottom: A memorial to those who perished 30 years ago next month at the Mt. Carmel compound run by the Branch Davidian religious group. Photographs New York Post

The saga at Waco began on February 28, 1993, when 75 agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms tried to serve an arrest warrant for weapons charges on David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians.

During the fracas, officers shot the group’s dogs, which prompted a gun battle with the compound’s residents that saw Koresh wounded along with four ATF agents and six Branch Davidians killed.

Born Vernon Howell in Houston, Texas, in 1959, Koresh had been a member of the Branch Davidians since 1981, becoming the leader in 1990 and changing his name in the process.

While previous leaders believed they were prophets of God, Koresh maintained he was the son of God – sent to Earth to prepare for the end of days while heading the messianic, apocalyptic Christian movement founded in 1955 as an offshoot of Seventh Day Adventism.

Under “orders” from God, Koresh took as many as 19 wives, reportedly fathering 13 children with them. His only legal wife was Rachel Jones, whom Koresh had married when she was just 14 years old.

Heather Jones was Rachel Jones’s niece, born at the compound in October 1983.

Left: Former FBI agent Gary Noesner attempted to negotiate a peaceful resolution to the Koresh-led standoff but was sent packing after weeks of no action. Jeffery Salter for NY Post. Right: David Koresh — seen here with his wife Rachel, and their son Cyrus — not only believed he was a prophet of God but the son of God. Sygma via Getty Images

Her family’s association with the Davidians dated back to the 1950s when her grandparents became members around the same time the group established their headquarters 13 miles north of Waco.

“Growing up in Mount Carmel was fun at times,” she says. “We had lots of animals. We had a lake and a swimming pool.

“[But] I hated the long church services.”

Jones lost her grandfather, Perry, in the initial ATF raid and, later, her father, David, in the final assault almost two months later.

Her mother, Kathy, survived, having left Mount Carmel in 1990 when she separated from her husband.

Jones also lost her aunt Rachel, who died alongside the three children she had with Koresh, as well as another aunt, Rachel Jones’s sister, Michelle.

She still remembers being woken by the sound of bullets smashing through her bedroom walls and people nearby being wounded or killed when the ATF began the initial raid. “There is not one day that goes by that I don’t think about the events that happened in 1993,” she says.

“I’ll never have any closure.”

There’s widespread suspicion when writers such as myself contact those who were at Mount Carmel — ranks seem to close as word spreads about your interest in what transpired three decades ago.

On the “Branch Davidians Survivors Waco’ group on Facebook,” there are messages warning members to “trust no one.”

Former group member Kat Schroeder, whose husband died in the first ATF raid, is “pretty sure I’ve already answered every question that could be asked.”

Another Branch Davidian, Livingstone Fagan, can’t see the point in discussing Waco any further. “We’ve been down this road many times before,” he messages, before highlighting the “misinterpretation and disinformation” that typically occurs whenever Waco is discussed.

Fagan left the compound with his two children, Renae and Neharah, on March 23, but lost his wife, Evette, and mother, Doris Adina during the raid.

Top: Former Attorney General Janet Wood Reno (Born: July 21, 1938 – Died: November 7, 2016), in Office: (March 12, 1993 – January 20, 2001) testified at a congressional subcommittee in 1995 as part of hearings into the tragedy at Waco. AFP via Getty Images. Bottom: Smoke pours from the headquarters of the Branch Davidians following the FBI siege on their compound in April 1993. Getty Images

Losses endured by folks like Fagan and Jones were not untypical.

Ofelia Santoyo, who left on March 21, had her daughter, Juliette Martinez, 30, and her five grandchildren, aged 3-13, perish at Waco.

Sheila Martin, then 46, also left that day to be reunited with her two children, Kimberly and Daniel, who had been released earlier. But she left behind her husband, Douglas, and her four older children, all of whom died.

Among the dead, meanwhile, were 24 British followers – many recruited when Koresh toured the United Kingdom in the late 1980s looking for new followers.

A few hours after the ATF’s initial raid, FBI negotiator Gary Noesner was on a plane headed for Texas. “I don’t know that anyone can truly be prepared for an event as challenging as Waco,” he tells The Post. “It’s not so easy to come into such a scenario and say, ‘Forgot all the prior stuff, trust me, let’s make a deal and end this peacefully.’ ”

Noesner’s negotiating strategy sought to distance the FBI from the ATF’s more aggressive style and, in doing so, establish a new relationship with the Davidians.

“From the beginning, it was quite clear that Koresh had an inflated sense of self-importance,” he tells The Post. “But I believed he was still someone that we could find a way to work with.

The aftermath of the fiery siege on the Branch Davidians compounds which saw 76 members perish from smoke and fire — including 22 children. Sygma via Getty Images

“We didn’t lecture him. We found we achieved more when we stayed away from religion. “You cannot expect to talk someone out of their core beliefs.”

It seemed to work – at least initially.

In the first week of the standoff, 21 children were allowed to leave, including Heather Jones and her brothers, Kevin, 11, and Mark, 12.

Fourteen adults also left.

But no more.

Top: An aerial view of the Mt. Carmel facility today, where a memorial ground and chapel are open for public visit. New York Post. Bottom: State troopers and members of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) stop a motorist during the 51-day standoff in Waco. Corbis via Getty Images

Dick DeGuerin was the lawyer tasked with negotiating on Koresh’s behalf. Based in Houston, he was hired by Koresh’s mother, Bonnie Haldeman, but was initially denied access to his client.

One month after the first raid, however, DeGuerin was granted permission to speak with Koresh. “I made it clear that I was not a shill for the FBI,” DeGuerin tells The Post.

His first face-to-face meeting with Koresh was conducted through the compound’s front door, with DeGuerin sitting on a chair outside.

Later, he was allowed inside. “I found Koresh to be a very intelligent and articulate person,” recalls DeGuerin, now 82 and living in Houston. “He was also dyslexic but had still memorized the whole of the Bible.”

For DeGuerin, there was no problem working with Koresh. As he saw it, the force used by the ATF had initially been excessive, and Koresh’s resistance was understandable.

It’s a view later reinforced by the acquittal of 11 Branch Davidians on murder charges relating to the initial ATF raid in February 1994. “As a lawyer, my job was to defend David Koresh at any trial.

“Yes, he would probably be charged with murder or conspiracy to murder, but I had to convince him that he would be treated fairly under the criminal justice system.

“And I think we did.”

Top: Koresh’s defense attorney Dick DeGuerin in his Houston home this month; the sculpture was made from a burned wheelbarrow and car part that was salvaged from the Waco compound. Scott Dalton for NY Post. Bottom: At its height, almost 650 government personnel were stationed at Waco during the standoff with the Branch Davidians which ended so tragically. Shutterstock

But progress was slow.

As the siege entered its fourth week, Noesner’s bosses began to change tack as a sense of fatigue set in. The FBI had more than 650 personnel at the compound and costs were mounting.

“They felt the best strategy was to ratchet up the pressure to force the Davidians out,” recalls Noesner. “[But] As a negotiator I knew this was not the way to go.”

Thibodeau agrees. “I think a lot of the Feds had never experienced anything like a religious group, committed to the scripture, that put God before everything,” he says.

Noesner left Mount Carmel on March 26, halfway through the siege as pressure mounted for a more aggressive approach. But “nobody came out after I was reassigned,” he says.

Still, by April 14, the situation appeared to be headed toward a nonviolent resolution. DeGuerin brokered a deal with Koresh for his surrender, providing his client was given time to complete his manuscript on the Seven Seals prophecy in the biblical Book of Revelations.

“I’d worked it out with the Texas Rangers that I would go in on the day of the surrender and walk out with Koresh and hand him over,” adds DeGuerin.

“Koresh even put it in writing.”

Thibodeau confirms this chain of events.

“I think a couple of more weeks at most and Koresh would have finished,” he says. “But the FBI thought it was another stalling tactic.�� And the groundwork for the final – and fatal – assault began.

The following day, on April 15, FBI Commander Jeff Jamar headed to Washington, DC, to meet newly-appointed Attorney General Janet Reno and seek permission to end the standoff.

Top: Heather Jones gave a tour of Davidian’s former compound earlier this month. New York Post. Bottom: The Mt. Carmel headquarters was initially purchased by the religious sect during the late 1950s. Corbis via Getty Images

Various strategies were discussed, from digging tunnels to drugging the Davidians, but the preferred method – using tear gas and armored vehicles – was signed off on April 17.

Two days later, at around daybreak, the plan was put into action – with devastating consequences.

When the Davidians refused a final opportunity to surrender, the FBI, using tanks and combat vehicles, fired tear gas grenades through the building’s windows and smashed through walls.

A fire eventually broke out inside the compound. Fanned by strong winds, it tore through the large timber buildings.

David Koresh and 75 others died, including 22 children. Thibodeau still faults the government’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Those kids suffered immeasurably – I can’t imagine what they went through,” he says. “And yet the government asked why the kids just didn’t come out of the holes the tanks had made in the building.

“How the f–k do you grab your kids and come out with all that going on? Tell me that.”

Only nine people escaped with their lives, one of whom was Thibodeau. “Right place, right time” he reflects. “I climbed out a window because I didn’t want to burn to death.

“Yes, I thought they were going to shoot me but that’s what I would have preferred to be honest.”

Thirty years on, the blame game continues.

Author and Waco-survivor David Thibodeau says the trauma of what he endured during the siege remains with him “on a cellular level.” WireImage

The FBI and the Justice Department maintain the Branch Davidians started the fire deliberately, while survivors insist it was the FBI’s tear gas that ignited the blaze.

Noesner believes the siege could have ended differently. “We had a chance to get everyone out alive but that’s not the general opinion of the FBI personnel there,” he says.

While some FBI actions were criticized in the official Danforth Investigation into Waco in 2000, federal officials were cleared of any wrongdoing, leading to accusations of a whitewash.

“At every single stage, the government were the aggressors,” says Thibodeau. “They came in with helicopters and tanks. They shot the dogs. Even when the negotiations were working, they increased the pressure.

Noesner, meanwhile, became Chief of the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit and wrote a book about his career, “Stalling For Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator.”

A placard welcomes visitors to the former headquarters of the Branch Davidians known as Mt. Carmel outside of Waco, Texas, USA. New York Post

DeGuerin remains convinced Koresh would have surrendered. “It was just a matter of time,” he says.

While the siege was over, for survivors it was the start of a lifetime of trying to come to terms with events.

Heather Jones, for instance, is now a 39-year-old nurse living just 12 minutes away from Mount Carmel.

She still suffers from severe PTSD and remains angry about the coverup she believes happened. “I still live in fear to this day,” she says. “They will never tell the truth about what they did to us and all the horrible things they did to my family.

Thibodeau also still struggles to process what happened.

“The trauma stays with you on a cellular level,” said the author and musician. “And that’s a very hard way to live your life.”

— The New York Post, April 12, 2023

[jontrayner]

Why do you find the need to use that kind of language? Gary Lineker and disallowed speech

On the 13th of January 2023, Joan Salter stood up in a public meeting in Suella Braverman’s constituency and said:

I am a child survivor of the Holocaust.  In 1943, I was forced to flee my birthplace in Belgium and went across war-torn Europe and dangerous seas until I finally was able to come to the UK in 1947.  When I hear you using words against refugees like ‘swarms’ and an ‘invasion’, I am reminded of the language used to dehumanise and justify the murder of my family and millions of others.

Why do you find the need to use that kind of language?

Braverman batted away the question with the usual obfuscations, it was reported widely in the national news and disappeared after a couple of days.

On the 7th March, former England footballer Gary Lineker, replied to a comment on his Twitter feed discussing the same subject with the following:

There is no huge influx. We take far fewer refugees than other major European countries. This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s, and I’m out of order?

As a result, Lineker was “stepped back” from presenting Match of the Day, his fellow presenters refused to appear on the show, and a huge row ensued in which the notions of impartiality in public service broadcasting were extensively discussed.  The meanings and implications of this were generally well analysed by Barney Ronay in the Guardian.  However, after the event, one paragraph of Ronay’s stands out:

Lineker’s key mistake was to throw Nazi Germany in there. However fine and nuanced his understanding of the semiotics of National Socialist messaging in the years 1930-1940, it would be good generally if people could stop using Nazi Germany as a kind of bad things emoji. Better to explain and use detail. Save Nazi Germany. Keep it in your back pocket for those occasions when only Nazi Germany will do. In doing so he offered up an opportunity. And an opportunist will never miss one of those.

This became one of the ways the outraged right were able to attack Lineker, his comments were excessive, out of order, disrespectful to the victims of the Holocaust, etc. This was something about which he was not qualified to speak.  He should stick to his job, to football.  Such replies are common currency in our current social and political discourse – everyone has the right to speak but some people’s speech is disallowed.

There are those who are expected to speak – politicians, journalists, academics, they are (apparent) experts, and their job is to have an opinion, and their right to speak is not questioned.  Then there are those with lived experience, such as Joan Salter.  No one questioned her right to make the comparison between the rhetoric of National Socialist Germany in the 1930s and that of the current British government.  Suella Braverman did not tell her that that she was “offended” by the comparison because her husband is Jewish.  The speech of these two groups is allowed.

Then there is the vox populi, all (non-theocratic) political discourse pays lip service to the idea that the public are the supreme arbiters of right.  However, the public can speak but only anonymously and en masse – as the voice of the people.  This is ideally filtered through an allowed source, a community leader, a union, a consultation, an opinion poll.  If this doesn’t happen, then they can be categorised as the mob.  But there is never a shortage of people who claim to speak for the people, or at least the right-thinking people, or the ordinary hardworking people, or to provide the voice of common-sense.  And if the public do not speak in the approved manner, you can always “dissolve the people, and elect another”.

The public figure – the sportsperson, the musician, etc. – speaking outside of their role is disallowed, because they are neither expected to speak, nor anonymous.  Here we have someone who has the views of an ordinary person, right or wrong, but whose public visibility is not predicated on those views but rather on their talents in another field.  They are, as Lineker – as the son of a market trader from Leicester – is, often the wrong class, and went to the wrong school.  Perhaps however, the key point is that their participation is voluntary– they are not obligated to speak by either their profession or their lived experience.  Indeed, quite often it would be better for them professionally not to have done so.  No one requires Lineker’s opinion of the government’s cruelties, he is only speaking out because he feels it to be right.  Most ordinary people could not speak in the way that Lineker did, with the risk of losing their job, simply because they cannot afford to do so.  The already public figure in this sense has two privileges on their speech – visibility and lack of (serious) consequences, so it is vital that speech is disallowed.

In this instance the correctness of Lineker’s statement is irrelevant, Salter can make the same point, and Michael Rosen can (on 15th March) offer a series of concrete examples of the corelations between the language of the National Socialists of the 1930s and our government.  Such recourse to facts, that demonstrate that our government is deliberately deploying the same rhetoric as the Nazis, is irrelevant in the current discourse and only proves how out of touch with ordinary people, we, the experts, are.  This is because we are operating in a political landscape where speech is gestural and as Walter Benjamin pointed out (in the 1930s) politics is aestheticised.  Slogans such as “Stop the boats” – are vague and meaningless except as a threat.  There is no functional plan behind this intention, it will not work, but that does not matter because some other group can be blamed for its failure.  This is the whole purpose behind policies of this sort, to provide a performative space for futile discussion while the real “criminals” on boats – the superyacht owning asset strippers who are the beneficiaries of current government policy – continue their work.

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Barney Ronay, The Guardian, 10/03/23 –

Walter Benjamin, Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction, 1936 – https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm

Suella Braverman, The Independent, 09/03/23 –

Berhold Brecht, Die Lösung (The Solution), 1953 – https://mronline.org/2006/08/14/brecht140806-html/

Gary Lineker, Twitter, 07/03/23 –

Michael Rosen, Twitter, 15/03/23 – https://twitter.com/MichaelRosenYes/status/1635918291385430020

Joan Salter, The Guardian, 14/01/23 –

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Benidorm, from the series “Observation”. Photo by Gary Salter.

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Going Underground #20 - Gary Stewart

Going Underground #20 – Gary Stewart

In the latest episode of the Going Underground podcast, co-host Miles Salter chats to York-based musician Gary Stewart about his new music and Paul Simon. (more…)

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Gary Lawrence Francione is an American legal scholar known for his work on animal rights theory.

He is a pioneer of the abolitionist theory of animal rights.

"Pig in a bucket" by Ben Salter on Flickr.

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Anonymous asked:

Does Luka deserve the slander LS stans and Luka antis give him? I don't mean to be condescending or anything ; I just wanted your point of view:)

I’d give a firm “no” on that, especially since I consider salt related to how fans treat a character shouldn’t count as a point against a character, because what I’ve heard and seen from the Luka salters tends to be them talking about how “the stans” ruined Luka/Lukanette for them.

I’m not going to say they can’t feel that way, I just think it’s unfair because Luka himself hasn’t done anything.

It’s just my personal thing to separate - for example - my feelings on Adrien versus my feelings on the stans’ opinions of him.

(Also, I get on some level salting over Luka because no character is immune from criticism, but Luka is in such a tiny percentage of episodes that it seems so incredibly pointless and unnecessary.)

Anonymous asked:

Speaking about the Mary Sue and Gary Stu , I see lot of salter call Luka as "Bland Gary Stu" just because he "overly nice" and never jealous on Adrien or Adrinette. They clearly forgot that Luka is capable to get angry or has a limit of patience in "Silencer" toward Bob Roth and XY. Even after deakumatize, Luka clearly happy to see Roth get humiliated in public due to plagiarism and mock Marinette along with the Kitty Section instead of just "forget about it" or "give him a chance to be better person" like you know who ? "A person who still befriended and give a chance with a Liar despite almost make the girl who called by universe "his soulmate" get expelled and being akumatized".

lol them like “Luka is overly nice” when I just recently answered that ask about them saying that we salt on Adrien because we can’t imagine someone as “sweet and wonderful” as Adrien.

Sure, Jans.

Anonymous asked:

Just saw someone say Luka is also as bad as Adrien because he got angry because of Marinette.

Well first of yes but not because he got jealous. He got angry because other people stole Marinette's design, I haven't seen him show a hint of jealousy other than rightful sadness and slight anger (When he was akumatized too) in Lies because of Adrien.

Meanwhile Adrien literally gets jealous when someone admires Ladybug a little too much. How are these the same????

People be reachin’.

I’ve noticed that people complain that he’s overly nice, and then at the same time talk about him “forcing Marinette’s consent” and “lying to her” and such.

All I ask for is consistency.

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Marinette Isn’t A Mary Sue.

At least a half of her salters constantly complain about how Marinette’s a Mary Sue and use this as a reason to justify their hate of her character (Ironically, the other half keeps complaining about how her flaws are really really bad). There are a number of so-called “justifiable reasons” on why she’s a Mary Sue. And I’ll just say that I don’t agree with any of them. These reasons can range from “absolute nonsense. are you even watching the show?” to “I can see why you’d think that but you’re ignoring this aspect.” I’ll be breaking down each and every claim that I know of to tell you why exactly I disagree.

Marinette never faces the consequences of her mistakes

This is one of the reasons I downright disagree with and think is absolute nonsense. Marinette is very fallible. The show has portrayed that on multiple occasions. When she makes a mistake, she always faces the consequences and she tries to fix it. That element to her character is what makes her a great role model and it builds up majority of her character arc. I’m not sure what the salters who say this are exactly thinking, but it looks like they really need to re-watch the show. 

I’ll give you a fine example. Ikari Gozen is one of my favourite exhibits of her fixing her mistake. She judged Kagami too quick. Based on some presumptions she had on her personality, her feelings towards Adrien and her own jealousy, she judged her intentions too quick and made some really bad choices that episode by trying to sabotage her. In the first half of the episode, a lot of us were quite irritated by Marinette’s behaviour, we genuinely felt bad for Kagami. Which is quite surprising as Kagami is an over-hated character and Marinette is the popular protagonist. But no. The show painted the first half in such a manner that we’d feel sorry for Kagami and reprimand Marinette’s actions. The show itself acknowledged that Marinette was on the wrong side in that moment. That she wasn’t perfect, she was in the wrong. Until Marinette finds out that Kagami had genuine intentions, that she only wanted to be friends with her, she feels bad. She feels really bad with the way she treated her previously. And she realises that her unfriendly treatment could potentially lead to Kagami getting hurt, and yes, it did happen. Kagami did get hurt. And Marinette almost lost the chance of becoming friends with Kagami in that moment.  And she would have to live with that guilt for some time if her mother hadn’t called. When her mother called, Marinette stepped up and took the opportunity to prove to Kagami that she was a good friend. That she was sorry. And did want to be friends with her. She made a mistake, faces the consequences and steps up to fix them. The way her relationship with Kagami changes in the course of episodes is a really good example that tells us Marinette is fallible.

Marinette has way too many talents and achievements 

Okay. This one is somewhat reasonable and I can see where people are coming from here. However, I still don’t think it accounts for her being a Mary Sue. Here’s why. In Miraculous World, not going to lie, everyone is pretty talented, they’ve all made crazy achievements. Do I need to list now? 

Alya runs a famous blog: The Ladyblog. She even earned an interview with Nadia Chamack. Nino is a DJ. He appeared on a show and won! Marc and Nathaniel write/illustrate and publish comics! Ivan, Luka, Juleka and Rose are in a band: Kitty Section. They played live on TV! Adrien’s a teen model, multilingual, pianist, has great physical skills due to fencing and basketball. Even Lila has decent modelling skills, she works for Gabriel now. Kagami is an excellent fencer. That comes from the idea that she’s from a prestigious family world-renowned for fencing. Marinette is pretty close with Jagged because she designed his #1 album for him. Also, she won the contest for Gabriel and was recognised by Audrey Bourgeois. Max literally built a super-intelligent robot with emotions and everything. 

So, what does that mean? They’re all Mary Sues and Gary Stu’s. No! We need to remind ourselves that this a kids show and there’s the aspect of encouraging kids to believe in working on their own talents, so they’re encouraged to do anything and push ahead for their dreams. Plus, it doesn’t portray that their talents come naturally, it shows that they work for them and developed these talents through practice. 

Clumsiness and stuttering are Mary Sue traits

First of all, not every character that has these traits is a Mary Sue. It always depends on how these traits are represented. Her stuttering isn’t just there for no reason. It’s meant to display her difficulty with expressing her own feelings. We’ve had episodes with Marinette saying how it’s difficult for her to say what she feels. Episodes! And it isn’t just a meaningless detail. It represents her fear. Her fear of rejection. Her fear of being in a relationship and things going wrong. Her fear of many things. Her fear is the reason why she hesitates. Why she stutters. And it tells us that fear is completely natural. Fear in love is something that’s natural.  

I'm so tired of not being able to just tell him how I feel! But I'm so scared, Tikki, always so scared he'll reject me.

What if he tells me that he loves me? Or that he doesn't love me? Or that he likes me, but not in that way -

Yeah. Don’t you dare tell me that this fear isn’t depicted in the show. It’s blatantly obvious.

As for her clumsiness, it represents her nervousness. It comes in the form of her fear to mess up. She’s clumsy when she’s nervous. And thus she’s afraid she can mess up due to that clumsiness and nervousness. In the Origins, her insecurity, her nervousness was all displayed in the form of her clumsiness, and she knows she displays her nervousness through clumsiness And she was afraid that her clumsiness could mess things up. That’s why she believed she was disaster-prone. And incapable of being a superhero. Because she was nervous and scared. 

She gets too much screen-time

This one I really don’t get. How is having more screen time making her a Mary Sue? She’s the main protagonist. Of course, she’s going to get a lot of screen-time. Her endearing personality and active lifestyle molds the storyline of the show. She’s easy to follow along. If you’re comparing her to Adrien, I’ll say that...Adrien’s a mysterious and sheltered character. Giving him too much screen-time can get boring because he’s stuck at home all the time. We can focus on his family mystery but if the show does it too much, it ruins the mystery aspect of it. I adore Adrien getting screen-time with episodes focused around him too but I’m not going to expect him to get as much as screen-time as Marinette because his character is different, and him getting as much screen-time as her doesn’t work for the style and demographic. And claiming that she’s Mary Sue because of more screen-time is stupidity.

Encouraged jealousy and despising other girls around her crush is a Mary Sue quality

Firstly, the show never encourages Marinette’s jealousy. It doesn’t encourage it. Plus, she’s not jealous in every situation. Only in specific situation when she thinks there’s something off about the person like Chloe and Lila. In Volpina, Marinette had realised she had gone overboard with calling out Lila. And she did face consequences for it. Her akumatization. And she did try to fix her mistake in the end by apologising for overreacting. Lila was the one who turned her away that time. As for Kagami, her jealousy arc changed based on her attitudes about Kagami. During Frozer, she wasn’t jealous per say, upset but not jealous. Frozer made Marinette and Kagami misunderstand each other, that’s why they’re quite petty towards one and other for the next few episodes. In Animaestro, I don’t think Marinette would’ve been that petty if it weren’t for Chloe. But yeah, that episode isn’t one of her best moments. I’m not a fan of it either. In Ikari Gozen, these misunderstandings were cleared and so were the issues from Animaestro, and it’s fine now. On a overall, I don’t believe Marinette would get jealous around everyone. At least, not in a way where she would try to stop them from getting close to Adrien all the time. It depends on the person and situation. 

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In conclusion, Marinette isn’t a Mary Sue. She’s fallible, has flaws, fears and works for her achievements. And that’s on point. 

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Library Update

Fan Culture Anastasia Salter; Bridget Blodgett - Toxic Geek Masculinity in Media: Sexism, Trolling, and Identity Policing Katherine Larsen; Lynn S. Zubernis - Fan Culture: Theory/Practice Linda Duits; Koos Zwann; Stijn Reijnders - The Ashgate Research Companion to Fan Cultures

Fandom & Fan Practices Bob Rehak - Materializing Monsters: Aurora Models, Garage Kits and the Object Practices of Horror Fandom Francesca Davis DiPiazza - Fandom: Fic Writers, Vidders, Gamers, Artists, and Cosplayers Joseph Brennan - Queerbaiting and Fandom_ Teasing Fans Through Homoerotic Possibilities Lucy Neville - Girls Who Like Boys Who Like Boys_ Women and Gay Male Pornography Matt Yockey - Monster Mashups: At Home with Famous Monsters of Filmland Melissa A. Click - Anti-Fandom: Dislike and Hate in the Digital Age Nancy K. Baym - Tune In, Log On: Soaps, Fandom, and Online Community Roos Gerritsen - Intimate Visualities and the Politics of Fandom in India Suzanne Scott - Fake Geek Girls: Fandom, Gender, and the Convergence Culture Industry

Fanfiction Ashton Spacey - The Darker Side of Slash Fan Fiction: Essays on Power, Consent and the Body Heather Urbanski - Writing and the Digital Generation: Essays on New Media Rhetoric

Boys Love & Yaoi Sandra Youssef - Girls Who Like Boys Who Like Boys: Ethnography of Online Slash/Yaoi Fans

Games Melanie Swalwell; Helen Stuckey; Angela Ndelianis - Fans and Videogames: Histories, Fandom, Archives

K-Pop Crystal S. Anderson - Soul in Seoul: African American Popular Music and K-Pop

Specific Fandoms [Buffy] Allyson Beatrice - Will the Vampire People Please Leave the Lobby? True Adventures in Cult Fandom [Comic Books] Bill Schelly - Founders of Comic Fandom: Profiles of 90 Publishers, Dealers,Collectors, Writers, Artists and Other Luminaries of the 1950s and 1960s [Doctor Who] Matt Hills - Triumph of a Time Lord: Regenerating Doctor Who in the Twenty-First Century [Doctor Who] Paul Booth; Richard Wallace - Fan Phenomena: Doctor Who [Harry Potter] Christopher Bell - From Here to Hogwarts: Essays on Harry Potter Fandom and Fiction [Harry Potter] Travis Prinzi - Harry Potter for Nerds: Essays for Fans, Academics, and Lit Geeks [Jane Austen] Deborah Yaffe - Among the Janeites: A Journey Through the World of Jane Austen Fandom [Jane Austen] Sarah Glosson - Performing Jane: A Cultural History of Jane Austen Fandom [Music] Daniel Cavicchi - Tramps Like Us: Music and Meaning among Springsteen Fans [Music] Eoin Devereux; Aileen Dillane; Martin J. Power - Morrissey: Fandom, Representations and Identities [Music] Mark Duffett - Popular Music Fandom: Identities, Roles and Practices [Music] Toija Cinque; Sean Redmond - The Fandom of David Bowie: Everyone Says Hi [Supernatural] Katherine Larsen; Lynn Zubernis - Representations of Fans on Supernatural [Supernatural] Travis Langley; Lynn S. Zubernis; Jonathan Maberry; Mark R. Pellegrino - Supernatural Psychology: Roads Less Traveled [Westworld] James B. South; Kimberly S. Engels; William Irwin - Westworld and Philosophy [Twin Peaks] Marisa C. Hayes; Franck Boulègue - Fan Phenomena: Twin Peaks [Hunger Games]Nicola Balkind; Emma Rhys - Fan Phenomena: The Hunger Games [Mystery] Marvin Lachman - The Heirs of Anthony Boucher: A History of Mystery Fandom [Lost] Jon Lachonis, Amy Johnston - Lost Ate My Life: The Inside Story of a Fandom Like No Other [My Little Pony] Edwards; Chadborn; Plante; Reysen; Redden - Meet the Bronies: The Psychology of Adult My Little Pony Fandom [Shakespeare] Johnathan H. Pope - Shakespeare’s Fans: Adapting the Bard in the Age of Media Fandom [Sports] Adam Brown - Fanatics: Power, Identity and Fandom in Football [Sports] Carrie Dunn - Football and the Women’s World Cup: Organisation, Media and Fandom [Sports] Dağhan Irak - Football Fandom, Protest and Democracy: Supporter Activism in Turkey [Sports] Erin C. Tarver - The I in Team: Sports Fandom and the Reproduction of Identity [Sports] Gary Armstrong; Alberto Testa - Football, Fascism and Fandom: The UltraS of Italian Football [Sports] George Dohrmann - Superfans: Into the Heart of Obsessive Sports Fandom [Sports] Jamie Cleland; Mark Doidge; Peter Millward; Paul Widdop - Collective Action and Football Fandom: A Relational Sociological Approach [Sports] Mariann Vaczi - Soccer, Culture and Society in Spain: An Ethnography of Basque Fandom [Sports] Nina Szogs - Football Fandom and Migration: An Ethnography of Transnational Practices and Narratives in Vienna and Istanbul [Sports] Phil West - The United States of Soccer: MLS and the Rise of American Soccer Fandom [Sports] Radosław Kossakowski - Hooligans, Ultras, Activists: Polish Football Fandom in Sociological Perspective [Sports] Stacey Pope - The Feminization of Sports Fandom: A Sociological Study [Sports] Steve Redhead - Post-Fandom and the Millennial Blues: The Transformation of Soccer Culture [Sports] Tamar Rapoport - Doing Fandom: Lessons from Football in Gender, Emotions, Space [Sports] Younghan Cho - Global Sports Fandom in South Korea: American Major League Baseball and Its Fans in the Online Community

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Birthdays 3.21

Beer Birthdays

Sampson Salter (1692)

William Worthington (1723)

Gabriel Sedlmayr (1772)

Anton Dreher Jr. (1849)

Pierre Celis (1925)

Iain Gately (1966)

Five Favorite Birthdays

Timothy Dalton; actor (1946)

Roger Hodgson; rock musician (1950)

Eddie James "Son" House; blues musician (1902)

Modest Mussorgsky; composer (1839)

Ayrton Senna; Brazilian formula 1 racer (1960)

Famous Birthdays

Matthew Broderick; actor (1962)

Peter Brook; film director (1925)

Solomon Burke; pop singer (1940)

James Coco; actor (1930)

Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier; mathematician, physicist (1768)

Al Freeman Jr.; actor (1934)

Julio Gallo; winemaker (1910)

Cynthia Geary; actor (1965)

Walter Gilbert; chemist (1932)

Benito Juarez; Mexican politician (1806)

Francis Lewis; signer of the Declaration of Independence (1713)

Forrest Mars; candymaker (1904)

Phyliss McGinley; poet (1905)

Russ Meyer; film director (1946)

Eddie Money; rock musician (1949)

Rosie O'Donnell; actor, comedian (1962)

Gary Oldman; actor (1958)

Adrian Peterson; Minnesota Viking RB (1985)

Jean Paul Richter; German writer (1763)

James Jesse Strang; king of the Mormons (1813)

Charles Thompson; jazz pianist (1918)

Florenz Ziegfeld; theatre producer (1869)