#Gabriel o’hara 1992

[machineheraldandy]

Miguel and Gabriel analysis talk (OG comics)

Kinda…maybe…idk…

Content warnings: there is mention of the abuse Gabriel and Miguel went through

Content warnings: there is mention of Miguel’s suicidal tendencies here

This may come out as complete ramble that doesn’t make sense and honestly that’s to be expected as I’m very passionate about this, like…extreme so

This is about the idea of Miguel relying unhealthily on Gabriel and how I believe the new writing direction of the comics cannot be canon to Miguel’s character and mischaracterise him because I fully believe that he would not be able to successfully be a hero without his brother.

If you don’t know in nearly all the new comics for Miguel o’hara, Gabriel o’hara dies, he’s either already dead, or dies within the comic, we are seeing that with the new comics about to come out as well, it’s even within the novel.

Though I do think the novel did a good job, the novel showed Miguel became a shell of himself, and became nothing, unable to find proper purpose, but yet I still think that isn’t right, it isn’t what I be,I’ve Miguel would do.

Now you need context of everything first, Miguel is spiderman second, but he is a victim of family based abuse first. It is what makes him. Him. The only family that has not abused him is Gabriel, his little brother, another victim of abuse

George is written to be an abusive asshole, he is misogynistic, racist, verbally, mentally, and physically abusive, to the point it’s believed that Gabriel could have gone through physical abuse, he was pushy and forced Miguel into schooling he didn’t want.

Conchata is neglectful, and physically abusive, even if the writers tried to pretend it was just normal things for mothers to do and kept trying to make him and her reconnect, and within latest comics she tends to appear to blame Gabriel’s death on him.

Kron stone is Miguel’s bully, he spends his time attempting to kill Miguel, publicly shaming him in front of people, and such in a way that can be considered another form of abusive. All while having a power position held over Miguel due to his father.

Tyler stone is abusive, he drugs Miguel, he admits he groomed Miguel, he’s not a good person, simple as that, he’s meant to be a villain in his writings. Edit: he also has an extreme power over Miguel though that’s part of grooming.

Who’s the only alive member we see that isn’t like this? Gabriel, his baby brother, that’s why Miguel is dependent on him. And I’m going to explain more on how he’s dependent

It’s shown that a form of self harm Miguel does is pushing people away he cares for and desperately needs, when he wants to harm himself, he harms the people he cares for, pushes them away. He has done this so much with Gabriel, the first time we properly see Gabriel, miguel is trying to push him away, trying to avoid him. Miguel attempted to push him deeply away in the way of cheating on Xina with Gabriel’s girlfriend Dana, he keeps working for the company that Gabriel hates, he does everything in small ways to get Gabriel to hate him. It’s purposeful, it’s because he needs his brother, and because he needs his brother, he has to attempt to push him away. He has to. That’s his self harm, which shows that Gabriel is one of the most important people to him.

Miguel needs Gabriel, he can’t deal without his little brother, in fact at the very end of the 1992 comics, when miguel leaves things behind and seemingly quits for some time (until later 1990s comics) that only comes after his brother actually “abandons” him, which we end up knowing isn’t true as it was a shape shifter pretending to be Gabriel, but the reason it seems Miguel ends up not giving up and attempts to keep going on is to find Gabriel. His purpose becomes more so to find Gabriel, to keep him safe, he knows Gabriel is alive and well, and needs to find him. That becomes his purpose including in alternative universes. Edit: his reason for staying spiderman is purely because of wanting Gabriel’s safety by all means

Miguel needs Gabriel, he can’t live without him, he can’t do that, and I’m saying that he would not live, he’d refuse to without Gabriel. You already see he is suicidal, he is known as the suicidal spiderman, he may be passive suicidal, we see drawings of him hanging himself. We hear how he makes plans to end himself, we see how he wants to end it but is too much of a coward. And I say he’s a “coward” as he sees himself as still having a slight purpose, to stay with his brother. But if he doesn’t have his brother?

Gabriel is his self control, his reason to live, the only family he has that loves him, he needs Gabriel, he needs his little brother, he can’t be without his brother. If you go by 1992-1995 writing, then it has to be argued that Miguel wouldn’t just keep being a hero, he wouldn’t keep being alive.

How to make Gabriel disappear?

The thing is the writers tend to kill off Gabriel to push the story, to push the narrative, Gabriel is like that female character in stories that gets killed off for the male protagonist, this time he’s just a brother, a brother that should not have had this happen, it doesn’t make sense logically. The thing is they treat Gabriel as uncle Ben, he isn’t, uncle Ben exists in their universe and is long dead, Miguel is not Peter Parker, Peter Parker exists in his universe and is long gone, he does not have a uncle Ben, it shouldn’t be that way, Gabriel is not his uncle, he is his only family he cares for, at most he should be treated like aunt may possibly, but barely.

I believe the real way to may Gabriel disappear is to not kill him but make him leave by his own will, alive. Gabriel goes through a lot of things, and logically him leaving Miguel behind can work. Gabriel’s girlfriend cheats on him with Miguel, his next girlfriend falls for Miguel, George only ever cared for Miguel, Miguel is loved by entire nations as spiderman, conchata starts to give him more attention, Gabriel is a victim of abuse that is a people pleaser, who is desperate for his mothers love, if he has to share his mothers love when he struggles to get the love of anyone else? Yeah that may start to push him over the edge, on top of that but Miguel does push him away, Miguel gives Gabriel many reasons to disown him. By all means Gabriel gets put through a lot of shit.

Make it so Gabriel leaves Miguel due to things Miguel can’t control but also can control, make it so that Miguel has to confront himself. Miguel has to see his actions, has to see his self harm, has to see how he’s a dickhead pushes people away. See how him doing things like idk sleeping with his brothers girlfriends is extremely bad. Make it so Miguel has to grow and learn to change, and go through difficult times, by getting Gabriel to leave him alive.

If you take Gabriel away by killing him off, it doesn’t give Miguel proper reason to change, it gives him reason to die. His brother that loved him so much and he loved so much died? What’s the point? But the brother that loved him and he loves so so much doesn’t care for him anymore? Miguel goes through a depression and then changes himself, so he can be around his brother again.

You take a desperate man barley living and get rid of his reason to live, and you don’t have what marvel is trying to convince you they have.

But hey that’s just personal opinion and maybe a fanfic idea for someone :D

Edits done: fixing spelling errors

[basim-ibnishaq]

Imagine how happy Gabriel would be to hear that Miguel actually might now see a way forward with Conchata, that maybe one day the three of them could feel like a family...just thinking about how much Gabriel hurt seeing her grow more and more cold towards Miguel as the toll George's abuse took on her really started to show, and watching Miguel distance himself further, referring to her as crazy lady instead of ma because he can no longer see in her mother he had before he was torn away from her and Gabriel

Then everything changes: Miguel becomes spiderman and begins to shed the arrogance and selfishness that he's protected himself with since school, and Conchata gets away from the hospital and takes the closure she so desperately needs into her own hands - she wants to be better for her sons, both of them. She's inspired by spiderman, not knowing its her own son under the mask..and with both her and Miguel being in a better place than they've each been in years they can finally start to work on healing their relationship

[papermoonknight]

Spider-Man 2099 (2099) Issue 2

[kairiscorner]

Not a fic request but do you have some lore you know abt Gabriel O’Hara from the comics? Like, abt if he’s close with Miguel or not, did he die or not, and what job does he have

oh hey smokey :DDD OK, so from my observations in the comics, gabri is ...... imo, kind of a beige flag? more green for the most part though. he's sweet, caring (overly caring sometimes) and is a very loving boyfriend and brother. he does get his shit taken away from miguel a lot of the time, though he did find the heart to move past that (until the latter parts of the comics) and honestly, because his heart is too big for his body, he's easily swayed by the women he loves and changes himself according to how they act. gabri struggles to find lasting relationships and feel loved for who he is :( i hate kasey nash in the 1992 run @binibinileonara back me tf up

but yeah, my boy needs a lot of love, he didn't get a lot of it and even when he did, it kinda fell apart most of the time and didn't last ;-;

[doodleferp]

This too!!! The man’s canonically a homewrecker!!! He cheated on his childhood sweetheart with Dana — while Dana was dating Gabriel!!! He fuckin stole his brother’s girl!!!

I guess what my morning brain was trying to say that even though Gabi’s death affected him a LOT, that’s not the sole reason why Miguel is the way he is. He’s been serving cunt since 1992 and that’s the whole point. Miguel was a shitty man who worked for a shitty company and had a shitty home life with shitty parents in a shitty future. Then he gets put in a position where he accidentally becomes a pillar of hope for people. Becoming Spider-Man is his redemption arc.

Miguel being a slutty asshole who doesn’t trust anyone is just scratching the surface of the comic lore. Which pulls me back to the original point I was trying to make. There’s no shade on headcanons. We love them and we love to see them. Virgin Miguel AUs are fun as shit and I love them, But the trend of headcanons I’ve been exposed to about his past and stuff are things that can VERY EASILY be answered if people just LOOK AT THE SOURCE MATERIAL. Like, his original 1992 run ALONE has 46 issues. That’s SO MUCH Miguel content for us to enjoy. Even though the O’Haras are painfully Caucasian.

I woke up the day I posted this and chose violence. I’m sorry

I love it when people are make headcanons about a comic book character when they could easily learn the information they’re headcanoning about if they just read the comics

This is not shading the headcanon practice in general. It’s just…one look at the comics and it is OBVIOUS Miguel’s always been a cunt. Like. The man obviously has a lot of rage to work through. It’s brought up in Issue 2 for Pete’s sake. Not even four or five issues in, he has a rage fantasy of shoving drugs down Tyler Stone’s throat and beating the crap out of him. He loses his temper a lot and it is UGLY.

Also the fact that he canonically knocked a girl up.

[shockyeahmiguelohara]

SPIDER-MAN 2099 VS. VENOM 2099 TPB

Written by PETER DAVID, JONATHAN PETERSON, MARK WAID, LEN WEIN & MORE Penciled by ANDREW WILDMAN, KEITH POLLARD, JOE ST. PIERRE, GABRIEL MORRISSETTE, RICK LEONARDI & MORE Cover by RICK LEONARDI

Continuing the original adventures of Miguel O’Hara, the Spider-Man of the year 2099! First, Miguel shares a body-swapping, timeline-tangling adventure with none other than Peter Parker, the ever-amazing Spider-Man of the modern day! But how does the Green Goblin of the far-flung year 2211 fit into the madness? Miguel finally gets back to the future, only to be drawn into the web of Doom — Doctor Doom, that is, who has taken over the United States! How will Spidey react when both President Doom and Alchemax’s Tyler Stone approach him with…job offers? And tragedy strikes when the Venom of 2099 attacks! What is this new Venom’s secret connection to Miguel? Plus: The futuristic wall-crawler faces the Man-Spider, the Impaler, the Chameleon and more! 

Collecting SPIDER-MAN 2099 (1992) #34-38 and SPECIAL, SPIDER-MAN 2099 MEETS SPIDER-MAN and material from 2099 UNLIMITED #9-10.

280 PGS./Rated T …$39.99 ISBN: 978-1-302-91621-3 ON SALE APRIL 2019 [x]

[biggoonie]

SPIDER-MAN 2099 VS. VENOM 2099 TPB

Written by PETER DAVID, JONATHAN PETERSON, MARK WAID, LEN WEIN & MORE Penciled by ANDREW WILDMAN, KEITH POLLARD, JOE ST. PIERRE, GABRIEL MORRISSETTE, RICK LEONARDI & MORE Cover by RICK LEONARDI ON SALE APRIL 2019 Continuing the original adventures of Miguel O’Hara, the Spider-Man of the year 2099! First, Miguel shares a body-swapping, timeline-tangling adventure with none other than Peter Parker, the ever-amazing Spider-Man of the modern day! But how does the Green Goblin of the far-flung year 2211 fit into the madness? Miguel finally gets back to the future, only to be drawn into the web of Doom — Doctor Doom, that is, who has taken over the United States! How will Spidey react when both President Doom and Alchemax’s Tyler Stone approach him with…job offers? And tragedy strikes when the Venom of 2099 attacks! What is this new Venom’s secret connection to Miguel? Plus: The futuristic wall-crawler faces the Man-Spider, the Impaler, the Chameleon and more! Collecting SPIDER-MAN 2099 (1992) #34-38 and SPECIAL, SPIDER-MAN 2099 MEETS SPIDER-MAN and material from 2099 UNLIMITED #9-10. 280 PGS./Rated T …$39.99 ISBN: 978-1-302-91621-3

[magicalmonsterhero]

Spider-Man 2099 trailer

My version of a Spider-Man 2099 movie. Note: this takes place in a universe that previously didn’t have any native heroes.

(Open on a shot of the city of Nueva York. Cut to Tyler Stone and Miguel O’Hara on a platform overlooking an arrangement of highly advanced and expensive equipment.)

Stone: Alchemax is one of the biggest neogenics companies in the world.

(Shots of people undergoing medical treatment.)

Stone (v/o): So many illnesses and birth defects have been wiped out because of people like us, Miguel.

(Cut back to Stone and Miguel.)

Stone: Now we’re ready to take the next big step forward.

(Shots of various major events from Marvel history [all published before/in 1992]. Each time, the camera zooms in on Miguel, an unseen witness.)

Miguel (v/o): I’ve been having these dreams...maybe they’re the answer.

(Cut to Miguel lying in a pod, calmly closing his eyes as it seals shut. Shot of Aaron Delgado messing with a control panel. Shot of the pod shaking and sparking as a nearby screen flashing a warning. Shot of Miguel emerging from the pod. Close-up of Miguel’s hand with talons on the fingers. Cut to Miguel lifting a maglev car almost effortlessly.)

Miguel (v/o): I should be terrified by what’s happened to me...

(Cut to Miguel, wearing a balaclava to hide his face, parkouring through the upper space of Nueva York.)

Miguel (v/o): ...but to be honest, I’ve never felt so good in my entire life.

(Landing on a wall, Miguel begins to scale it with ease. Cut to Stone’s office, where the man is meeting with the cyborg bounty hunter Venture.)

Venture: This guy is just the beginning.

(Cut to the inside of a nightclub, where a guy is kneeling on the floor, clutching his head as scales appear along his arms and neck. Shots of similar cases of sudden mutation.)

Lyla (v/o): Things have gotten out of control.

Miguel (v/o): You think I don’t know that?

(Shots of mutated animal hybrid splicers wreaking havoc across Nueva York. Cut to Miguel staring out his apartment window with Lyla standing beside him.)

Miguel: I unleashed this nightmare! It’s my responsibility to fix it!

(Cut to Miguel’s brother Gabriel running from a vulture splicer, only for an octopus splicer to jump out and block his path. As Gabriel searches for a way out, both splicers are suddenly tied up with webbing and knocked out by a blue- and red-gloved punch. Gabriel turns to look at his rescuer with an expression of awe.)

Gabriel: Who...who are you?

(Shot of Miguel in costume. Cut to title card.)

SPIDER-MAN: 2099

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[machineheraldandy]

Xina Kwan art dump and some things for the spiderwoman au of her that I have brewing, a lot of people are now making spiderwoman au’s of her and it’s so cool, my au is more based on having her go nearly exactly what Miguel in 1992 went through but with extra trauma! Because I love trauma obviously.

Some ideas/sketches/art style practice/etc

The last one is her old design as I didn’t like the dress/skirt type thing going on as it didn’t look the best.

[papermoonknight]

Spider-Man 2099 (1992) Issue 5