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yuno ⭐ kazui
yuno and kazui are biologically related: my dissection of kashiki-mukuhara also huge shouts out to @nikoberry who helped me put this theory together! for ease of reading, yuno's information will be on the left side of this post, with kazui's information on the right- to the best of my ability. sources are linked best i can
disclaimer: i dont know how canon it is that the prisoners experience memory loss of their lives & parts of their murders before milgram, but this theory works best under that assumption
this will also all be under a cut, for the sake of your dashboard... it's very long...
01. Age
to start off, it is not far-fetched that kazui could be yuno's biological father, as he would have been ~21 when yuno was born
02. Design
milgram character designs are made with a lot of intent and deliberation, the characters in the main cast look very different from one another, though yuno and kazui have a few key details that tie them together
note 1. posing; yuno and kazui are both posed in very similar ways for each of their trials. for trial 2: they seem excited, greeting you with a wave or acknowledging you wtih a nod for trial 1, they seem relaxed, but prepared. theyre meeting us for the first time, warmly, but not exposing who they are just yet
note 2. hair; these two have a handful of similarities with their hair. their hair color looks to be the same, but tinted with their respective colors they also have their bangs cut similarly, cut just under the eyebrow, a straight edge on their right side, with their hair parting on the left side
note 3, facial structure; both have a more "straight faces" (more noticeable in yuno's t2), coy smiles, and droopy/soft eyes
note 4, color;
03. Personality
excerpts pulled from the milgram wikia
04. Interrogations
yuno does not have a father present in her life
kazui's response to his question "Who do you want to see right now?" is "I can't meet them anymore."
he says "meet." not "see" or "be with", implying it is someone he has not met before: perhaps a child he knows of, but has not been told anything about them
(it could also be "meeting up", though i am not able to translate the original. in this case, it could be "meeting up" with the woman at the bar)
this one ^ mostly just tickles me
and i was almost going to dismiss this next one as him talking about his marriage
buuut... niko twisted my arm on keeping it in for the theory!
these next two are likely more about kazui's childhood friend, and his adultery, but theyre fun to apply to this theory, so im keeping them in.
05. Name Meanings
im not well versed in interpreting japanese names, so these are again, pulled from the milgram wikia
06. Timelines
muu mentions just before this that she does not interact much with men around kazui's age, save for her father
kazui mentions himself having a child out of the blue, and quickly dismisses it. muu does not comment on this in the full timeline, so it could be that he is talking to himself. but why?
(translation source) connecting this timeline to the one above is interesting as well, as yuno mentions that she and muu could be seen as the same age. perhaps muu reminds kazui of a child he has not met, yet knows is around muus general age
(translation source) it's important to note that the above timeline was posted 2 days after kazui's t1 video, half, premiered on the MILGRAM youtube channel. kazui makes no mention of children in his voice drama, but mentions them to shidou a few days after his song extraction
07. Cats
kazui's next song is titled "cat," and yuno's t2 video, tear drop, has very VERY brief flashes of cat imagery used for her
08. Doors
there is a great comparison that @dearmahiru has made for their respective t2 song artwork! though, i would also like to point out that their doors are made with a very very similar wood (re: the significance of the kanji used for their names)
the only prisoner thus far with a somewhat similar door to these two would be haruka
though the wood finish is almost entirely smooth, with hardly any visible grain, unlike yuno and kazui, who have woodgrain very visible on their doors. haruka's door is also not curved at the top
09. Etc, The End
i was mostly going to note that he says "float" in this translation, which corresponds to yuno's balloon imagery however, i started looking into the potential symbolism behind chairs and..
(i would also like to note that the chair has hearts on it, which im sure has significance- but at the moment is just a cute detail to me)
if you made it this far, thank you for reading, and please tell me your thoughts on this!! id love to hear what everyone else thinks about this theory!
im know there are more well put-together and stronger supported theories than this one, but it's my first full theory ive come up with on my own, and im just excited to share it! at the very least, it's a fun headcanon, and i will also go ballistic if it gets confirmed
#milgram#milgram theory#kashiki yuno#mukuhara kazui#yuno milgram#kazui milgram#002#007#GAH i cant think of anything else to put in this post#im gonna post it before i drive myself crazy looking for more!#please take this (throws it into the room and runs away)
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I think I’ve finally gotten past the hurt
Of the last episode of Season 4, because I find myself looking forward to season 5. Like, I have a renewed sense of love for this series and the characters, but it could also be because im ready for some happiness in my life after the bullshit I put the characters through in my fanfic.
who knows. All i know is season 5 is coming sooner than I though. Apparently I still feel like its march, i wonder why.
I’m stuck on one scene in chapter 7 at the moment. Can’t decide whether I want to keep it or move it to another chapter. Once I decide on that, it will be ready to post.
Then we are two chapters left until the end of the fanfic! Gah, I still cant believe I’ve made it this far. I usually give up on shit with relative ease. I suppose when it’s right its right. If only i had that same sense of dedication and commitment when it came to weight loss, managing my finances, my job, my love life, and just about anything else.
*shrugs*
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Bullet fic
scifi au, kinda: Bitty was kidnapped by a group for superpower experimentation, and presumed dead by everyone, including his husband. When he finally manages to escape, Jack’s moved on without him. Warnings for human experimentation (not very graphic), and presumed character death. This turned out to be very, very long.
It’s years after Bitty graduated and he and Jack are married. As in, jack proposed and they got their marriage license immediately afterwards. they’re planning on jack coming out soon and holding a huge wedding reception after.
jack’s signed a no trade clause and bought this nice, huge house a few blocks away from marty’s place. there’s a yard. jack built bitty a patio, and he built a swing set “for the kids in the future”
one day bitty’s invited to a fancy party with some other college alumns, and faulty wiring and a gas leak in the building blows everything up and theyre all pronounced dead or missing. bitty was one of the missing bc they couldn’t find anything in there that identified as him.
but they weren’t actually dead or caught in the explosion: they were taken by a group who needed human bodies to experiment powers and run tests on. while bitty’s being strapped to a gurney and reliving his worst nightmare of being trapped, jack’s suffering a panic attack because he just got news that his husband died in a freak accident
it gets long loll.
bitty doesnt remember most of the experimentation, because they have him under anaesthesia and hypnosis and a number of other drugs. he does notice that the group of scientists were trying to create humans with superpowers, and most of the test experiments react badly and die.
the alumn group do well, as in most of them don’t die when injected with the drugs. some even exhibit powers, such as super strength, etc.
nothing happens with bitty. he’s poked and prodded and injected and nothing happens to him. it’s painful, but he doesn’t die, but he also doesnt exhibit any kind of ability.
that’s weird, so the scientists decide to basically freeze him away until further notice, and he’s begging and crying for them not to put him in the small and cramped cryo-unit, but of course there’s no recourse.
the next thing he knows, the door is opening and someone from somewhere called “samwell”, a government agency, is rescuing him from this hellhole.
they take him to a private hospital, and he sees himself in the mirror for the first time in a while. and he’s hideous. his face was riddled with scars, and his eyes look dead and sunken.
the samwell agency has already sent out notifications to his family that he’s been found, because he’s been missing around five years, so technically there was an ongoing search for him and he wasn’t pronounced dead yet.
and meanwhile bitty catches up to the world. and he finds out that jack zimmermann has a public fianceè.
jack had come out as bisexual, had created a foundation in the name of eric bittle for lgbt youth, and had moved on from him apparently.
jack did all the right things. he grieved, and he grieved. he gave himself time for the loss, he dedicated time and energy to making sure eric bittle was remembered, he stayed in contact with friends and family, he joined support groups and did grief counseling and got better.
and he met someone, and fell in love again, and is planning on a life together with Katy. bitty’s heart broke as he scrolled through happy instagram and twitter posts by Katy about her beautiful boyfriend jack zimmermann who was an over the top romantic, who bored her with history channel, and let her wear his jerseys. they were two beautiful people leading beautiful lives, and bitty’s can only look at his own weak limbs and face and think about how he’ll never deserve jack again.
jack’s one of the people to receive a notification that bitty was alive and found, because technically he was still married to bitty (he and kate had decided to wait until the date passed that bitty was officially pronounced dead, bc jack couldn’t bear to speed the process up).
all bitty had wanted was to run home to providence and into the arms of his husband, but instead he called his parents. They were ecstatic that he was alive, and he prepared for the trip back to georgia. bitty doesn’t want to look at jack’s happy life and ruin it, and he doesn’t want jack to see him with his scarred face. but he does call jack, because he knows he owes jack that.
“Sweetpea?” He involuntarily called out, then berating himself because Jack has someone else now.
“Bitty?” Jack’s heart thumped as he finally heard the voice he’d been missing for so many years. Katy was holding his hand, and his grip tightens.
“Jack, I-I’m back.” Bitty cried, and Jack could almost hear the tears rolling down his face. He remembered how easily Bitty cried. “I can’t believe Beyonce released two new albums since I was out!” And it was as if Bitty never left.
“Where are you? You should come back home.” Before Jack realized that he sold the house they lived in together, when he decided that it was too painful to live there alone.
“I’m back in Madison. I saw the news, about Katy. I don’t want to intrude.”
“You’re not intruding, I’ll book-,” Jack began to say, but Katy was looking blank and scared and he realized that she was afraid that he was going to dump her. And Jack doesn’t fucking know what to do.
“I’m so glad you’re alive,” Jack finally said, breaking down as Bitty continued to sob into the phone. “I’m just so happy you’re alive.”
so one of the logistical problems that happens is that jack is technically still married to bitty. but he’s engaged to another person. and jack’s lawyer is raring to go.
“don’t you worry, mr. zimmermann. i’ll take care of this in a jiffy so you can go ahead and marry your beautiful Katy. and don’t worry about alimony, i’ll make sure he takes nothing away from this marriage, even if there was no prenup.”
bitty, selfless as ever, comes up north to solve the problem himself. he’s willing to file for divorce papers with jack, and doesn’t request any alimony.
jack, on the phone as bitty’s in the airport: “you don’t have to do this, you just escaped from that terrible place, you have to rest yourself before you do anything.”
bitty: “oh sweetp- jack. it must’ve been so hard for you to move on, i dont want you to suffer anymore. you’ve built up a life without me, and if i saunter back in anytime later i’ll ruin everything. it’s better to do everything now.” before bitty regrets it.
part of the reason jack didn’t drop everything and run to bitty is bc jack is very all or nothing. it hasn’t hit home yet that bitty was back. but when he and the rest of bitty’s friend are there in the airport seeing bitty walk in, jack finally felt it.
grief counseling helped jack a lot, but there was always a piece of him missing, and even though he accepted it and his counselor said it was normal, it was only when he saw bitty again that he felt that missing piece return inside him.
bitty had sent pictures to his friends to warn them about how he looked, but he didn’t send one to jack because he can’t bear jack seeing him scarred up like that. and he wore sunglasses and a cold mask on after exiting the plane because he wanted to avoid the moment of jack seeing his face for a bit longer.
and when bitty sees his friends waving at him he runs over and instinctually hugs jack first. his sunglasses were knocked off and his mask was askew in the collision and jack’s expression when he saw bitty’s face was terrible.
“bitty, what did they do to you?” cupped bitty’s face gently, still looking at bitty with love. bitty moves in closer and cupped jack’s hands, but he felt the engagement ring, and then backed off to say hello to everyone else.
katy, jack’s fianceé, is conflicted. on the one hand, she’s really really happy that jack’s husband is alive, because she knows that jack has been grieving him for ages and had finally walked out of grief. on the other, she’s so in love with jack, and she’s deathly afraid that bitty being back meant that jack was going to leave her.
when she saw bitty at the small gathering held in his honor and saw all his scars, she horrified herself by being glad that he was disfigured. “How can I be this disgusting that I’m happy for his misfortune?? But I can’t help it, GAH!!”
so the next day, bitty’s meeting with jack and katy, and their lawyers. jack and katy’s lawyer Smith, and bitty’s lawyer Shitty (bitty was like, i dont need a lawyer, and shitty was like, BRAH).
Smith: “How much alimony do you want? My client,” looks down disdainfully at his paper, “is prepared to offer you half his estate.”
Katy, “what the FUCK jack you didn’t tell me that! half of your estate? jack that’s crazy! we’re getting married i should know!”
“I’m really sorry, it was a last minute arrangement. Bitty needs it.”
Bitty’s really touched, he really is. But he refuses the alimony because “the whole reason i’m here is because i don’t want to cause any more trouble, jack. you can’t just give me half of what you have. you dont have to give me anything.”
katy, “that’s nonsense, you should still receive something. and you should also have your belongings from the storage unit, too.”
when jack sold the house and moved into a smaller place, he placed some of bitty’s stuff into a storage unit. when he started dating katy, he moved the rest bitty’s stuff into storage.
Shitty: “Bits, I know you don’t want to bother Jack more, but you’ve just gone through a really traumatic experience. You kind of need the support Jack’s offering you to get you back on your track with ease.” They agree to an amount that bitty’s comfortable with.
Bitty, suddenly near the end, realizing that he was about to divorce the man who he still loves very, very much: “I cant do this today. I’m sorry, you were right, jack. I need to leave now. I can’t. I’m so sorry. I’m going.” And he leaves, with jack chasing after him. he waved off shitty and katy, told them to stay while he took care of it.
“Bitty, Bits! Wait up,” he caught up to Bitty, and convinced him to come sit in Jack’s car. “Hey bud.” He sat next to bitty, who is trying not to cry in public. “Do you want me to take you back home?”
“Home’s gone, Jack.” Bitty said softly.
Jack’s throat tightened, because it was the same for him, too. The home that he’d made with Bitty was gone. And while he was able to build a new one, Bitty came back to nothing.
Jack reached into the backpack that he was carrying around, and pulled out señor bun. “I’m sorry, this is the only thing I can think of that would make you feel better. I meant to give him back to you at the beginning of the talk, but it felt weird to take him out in front of everyone.”
Bitty cried softly into señor bun, while Jack held him.
“I’m so sorry, sweet-I mean, Jack. I didn’t want to burden you. I didn’t want to show up with my ugly, terrible, face to disgust you and all this baggage and bother you. I just wanted you to be happy, and now I’m messing it all up.”
Jack smoothed over Bitty’s tears and thumbed the scar tissue on his face. He never, ever felt disgusted. Bitty was the same Bitty, only hurt a lot more. He was still kind, still self sacrificing, still everything that Jack fell in love with years ago. And Jack still thought he was beautiful.
“Let’s go to a place where it still feels like home, okay?” He texted Shitty and Katy to let them know that he’s canceling today’s meeting and they’ll discuss the matter later, and he drove Bitty to the storage unit that held all of Bitty’s stuff.
“It was really hard putting these away in boxes, it felt like finally saying goodbye to you. ” Jack said, letting Bitty and himself inside. “I had our friends and family help, because then it felt like we were remembering you and all the good that you brought us, instead of like we were boxing you away.”
All the boxes were meticulously labelled, some in Jack’s handwriting, some in Lardo’s, mish mashes of Bitty’s friends and family coming together. Bitty picked up a small box that wasn’t labelled, and opened it.
“Sweetheart,” he breathed out. “You kept my post it notes.”
Bitty opened a box labeled Clothes Bitty stole from me, “First of all, your stuff looked darn good on me-oh. This was your favorite game day hoodie, Jack. You should’ve just kept it instead of boxing it away.”
“You loved to wear it, too. So I couldn’t bear looking at it.”
“These were the salt and pepper shakers we bought at the flea market.”
“Oh, you kept the kitchenaid gathering dust here? At least use it, Jack.”
“My Ivy Park collection! But there’s more clothes here than I remember having bought.”
“It was a bad phase where I went on a shopping spree and bought a lot of that brand online. It felt like I was buying them for you. You should definitely wear them, you’ll look great.”
Jack continued to show Bitty the boxes. “And this is weird, but these are the planks from the swing set in our backyard. I took it apart for some reason, and I couldn’t do anything with it…I put your socks here with your underwear and color coded everything…the scrapbooks that we made together isn’t here, I gave those to Suzanne…the recipe book you were writing up I gave to my maman…our souvenirs from our trip to Venice is in this box, the duck I carved you during that terrible woodwork workshop is also in here…”
Bitty touched his cheeks, and found that they were wet again. He looked at Jack, whose cheeks was also wet with tears as he explained every box that contained their life together.
“What are we doing, Jack?” He asked. “I don’t even know why I thought this was a good idea, seeing you again. I thought this was the best way, to let you live your life without me. But now all I am is a selfish ol’ fool who’s begging you to-” he sobs, “-begging you to bring our old life back.”
And Jack has that moment of clarity again, where everything finally slotted together in his mind and in his life.
“I want that,” Jack said, taking Bitty’s hand. “I want our life back together again. How could I have been so slow? You’re back, and I still love you, no matter what happened.”
Katy was understandably distraught when Jack had that difficult conversation with her. She tried to persuade Jack otherwise, but gave up and wished him luck when she saw that stubborn look in Jack’s eyes. She actually thinks its very touching that jack’s still in love with someone who he thought died years ago, but thinks that its just her bad fucking luck that she had to be the person who’s abandoned. Bitty bakes her a guilt pie and she’s shameless enough to ask him for more, and he’s happy enough that she’s taking his guilt pie to bake her more.
like i want to make it clear here that katy’s not a villain or an antagonist or anything, she’s just a person at the wrong place at the wrong time having pretty normal reactions and ultimately not doing any harm.
and jack and bitty finally hold that wedding reception that they’ve been waiting for for years. there’s still a lot of problems, like bitty has really severe ptsd, but jack’s nearing retirement and has a lot more time to brainstorm with bitty and his therapists on how to deal with it.
and of course when bitty accidentally cut off his finger and saw it grow back, there were more questions regarding what exactly did the organization do to him.
but those were things he and jack faced together.
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rules: copy this post into a new text post, remove my answers and put in your own!
tagged by @trinsghost
a) age: too close to 40. pls kill me\
b) biggest fear: spiders
c) current time: 3:40pm
d) drink you last had: lots of water
e) every day starts with: weekdays - me ignoring my alarms until the 5th one goes off and i finally get up. weekends - me joyfully not seeing the sun
f) favourite song: Last Kiss by Bonnie Pink. has been my fave song since 2006 sometime
g) ghosts are real?: i think so but i have never seen one, but my mum said her bro and sister have legit had experiences with ghosts and they are not the sort to lie about such things. i dont ever want to SEE or sense one because i hate getting creeped out by things and that would defiantely do it. haha
h) hometown: sydney australia. i aint getting more specific than that thanks.
i) in love with: check please, sterek and the washington capitals. like can someone come into my life so i can love something that might feasibly love me back? kthxbai
j) jealous of: anyone who can go to caps games. :D i dont know if its a distinction others make - i am ok saying i am envious of something....but i always view jealousy as more negative - like you resent the person for having something you dont. and i dont feel that. so i say i dont get jealous about a lot of things because i am realistic with myself that if i wasnt such a lazy shit i could have the things that i am envious of - healthy slimmer body, nice hair, better paying job, etcetc.
k) killed someone?: no. but i have killed many ants in my teens when they invaded our old kitchen. sorry ants.....but you invade my house and death is the only option. i have killed a few spiders but i am too scared to get close most of the time if they are beyond a certain size.
l) last time you cried: yesterday....god what was i watching? oh sitting with parents eating food and tv had a show about some guy in the UK who does surgery on dogs to give em a better quality of life. Dogs hurting will always make me cry. people being emotional about their dogs will make me cry. DOGS!!
m) middle name: may
n) number of siblings: 2
o) one wish: just let sanity prevail and this rise in right wing fuckery to go down in flames so we can get back to working on equality for all.
p) person you last called/texted: parents to tell em what train i was on
q) questions you’re always asked: gah i cant think of anything. but like can no one ever ask me what my job is...i hate explaining it.
r) reasons to smile: friends and family(i like), fandoms, pets, my hockey teams goofiness.
s) song last sang: umm i was cracky my 1990s playlist last night.pretty sur ethe last song i sang along with was Turn back Time by Aqua. lol
t) time you woke up: umm i dont recall - someone woke me up coz it was dinner last night. i havent been to bed since...
u) underwear colour: black undies, white bra
v) vacation destination: umm so many. i want to see more things in canada, but i also really want to go to china. and i want to go back to Disneyworld, and i want to see certain parts of europe again....like europe i wish i could just tour around and see instead of having to go see it on someone elses schedule. ive been to paris twice and still there are things i didnt get to see or do coz i was at the mercy of other peoples plans/schedules. T.T
w) worst habit: laziness/procrastination
x) x-rays you’ve had: foot when i broke my metatarsel, teeth xrays and i had a mri done to check my sinuses...good times.
y) your favourite food: chinese food.....i cant choose one item ok
z) zodiac sign: aries
I tag: @leandraholmes @amiry @tiptoe39 @jaradel @con4cyn @smokesforsterek
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