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so, i don't live in texas, so it never occurred to me that even though the town in rio bravo is fictional, the county they're supposed to be in is very real
#sorry if you live in presidio county texas i genuinely didn't think you existed#(oh it still only has 6k people. rip)#FOUNDED 1850#bitch things are adding up!#i'm RIGHT#no snow though rip#and only rain from may to october#typewriter dings
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Henry W. Halleck (1815-1872) with his wife Elizabeth Hamilton (1831-1884), daughter of John Church Hamilton and granddaughter of Alexander Hamilton. Henry and Elizabeth hold their their only son, Henry Halleck Jr (1856-1882), who was known as ‘Harry’. Photographed c. 1856-1857 (?).
#henry halleck#elizabeth hamilton halleck cullum#john church hamilton#alexander hamilton#harry halleck#1850s#american civil war#historical hamilton#hamilton’s grandchildren#are ppl aware of this pic??#cause I found it years ago and it’s wonderful#elizabeth!!! and her son!!!#ignore halleck
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Hi friends! Looking for a shorter fic (I think it was a one shot maybe?) where it’s eighth year and Harry can’t stop insulting Draco and vice versa Harry starts to flirt instead of insult and it throws Draco off kilter? I believe part of it was that Harry thought Draco was pretty when he blushed so he kept doing it, then Draco began to flirt back and they end up in this flirtationship with each other. I don’t remember it being smutty. Can you help? Thank you!
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fellow australian artful dodger watchers have any of you worked out where in australia this is meant to be set because this is driving me up the wall
#have I missed something?????????#the artful dodger#so like. even though it's filmed in sydney sydney got no convict transports in the 1850s.#moreton bay got a convict transport in 1850 but why would the governor be in moreton bay. qld isn't a separate colony yet.#swan river colony and van diemen's land both had convict transports in the 1850s#but convicts were largely in fremantle in wa and the governor would be in perth#it looks too warm to be set in tasmania + surely there's enough heritage sites to film on location in hobart#and south australia and victoria were both founded as free colonies aka no convicts#edit: with the scheme to steal gold coming from ballarat that's been a year in the making it has to be an alt!melbourne right? right????
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I composed a Jewish joke. Here it is:
I thought I could briefly write a quick list of all the pogroms over the past 200 years!
#i worked on this for weeks and it still isn't even remotely done#i am still at the point where EVERY SINGLE TIME i look up a pogrom to get more detail i find new ones I hadn't listed yet#just now i searched for an instance of blood libel in antioch and found a string of them in 1850s Italy. still don't know where antioch is#jumblr#jewish history#wall of words#that's it that's the joke
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Anatomy infographics
1850
source | source
#found by kino#19th century#old drawings#anatomy#bones#vintage aesthetic#aethestic#horror aesthetic#goth aesthetic#1850#medical drawing
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If you want to try something that'll make you laugh tonight, have you seen Cunk on Earth? I think youd like it. your day can't get worse!
Oh my God, how had I never seen this before, yall are constantly assaulting me with noted British shows 'Some Guy Wears A Coat Through Time series 26.5" and "We're Repressed but Georgian" and "Emotionally Distant Detective Embodies True English Heroism: Paperwork" and "We're Repressed but Edwardian" but never this???
I love it, reminds me actually of how Stephen Colbert, person, played Stephen Colbert, character in the hey day of the Daily Report. It goes stupid joke, stupid joke, and then SMACKS you with a clever one, like a constant cunttease. AMAZING.
I really want my wife to watch it: She loves pump up the jam and will DIE
#the work of a few straight white men blows beyonce out of the water. you're saying that on camera?#i died#philomena saying we broke with the uk because yall say pavement and we say sidewalk: she's right#the only episode that HURT was when she was talking about the American West#AIMED FOR AND HIT#THEY USED THE SAME COWBOY SHOT CLIP FROM TOMBSTONE#also the woman does SUCH A BRILLIANT SENDUP of a confidently incorrect English woman#i got mad. at her at one point! and then caught myself#THE TOP GEAR MUSIC WHEN LOOKING AT THE MODEL T#my God#i was a little annoyed that it focuses so much on America#like: okay and where were you during all this exactly? making friends?#but then i found out there's actually a whole series on britian so it makes total sense#though in the ignorant british woman category there are only two histories after 1850: british and American#so no fun spicy takes on a lot of stuff#i will probably also end up watching cunk on Britain
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I've resolved to use the most Victorian™️ facial hair that I can in Dracula's Guest because when else am I going to get this opportunity
#need to draw a mf with friendly mutton chops it looks so wacky#i get the feeling that this is a slightly earlier style#but I have found examples of it in photos and fashion plates from the 1890s#though it tended to be on older gentlemen#I procrastinated so much yesterday reading about the beard movement#seems to have been more of a thing in the 1850s/1860s#by the 1890s being clean shaven started to gain popularity with younger men again but ofc there were still a mix of styles#text post#victorian fashion#dracula's guest comic
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/theyre-not-human-how-19th-century-inuit-coped-with-a-real-life-invasion-of-the-walking-dead
Indigenous groups across the Americas had all encountered Europeans differently. But where other coastal groups such as the Haida or the Mi’kmaq had met white men who were well-fed and well-dressed, the Inuit frequently encountered their future colonizers as small parties on the edge of death.
“I’m sure it terrified people,” said Eber, 91, speaking to the National Post by phone from her Toronto home.
And it’s why, as many as six generations after the events of the Franklin Expedition, Eber was meeting Inuit still raised on stories of the two giant ships that came to the Arctic and discharged columns of death onto the ice.
Inuit nomads had come across streams of men that “didn’t seem to be right.” Maddened by scurvy, botulism or desperation, they were raving in a language the Inuit couldn’t understand. In one case, hunters came across two Franklin Expedition survivors who had been sleeping for days in the hollowed-out corpses of seals.
“They were unrecognizable they were so dirty,” Lena Kingmiatook, a resident of Taloyoak, told Eber.
Mark Tootiak, a stepson of Nicholas Qayutinuaq, related a story to Eber of a group of Inuit who had an early encounter with a small and “hairy” group of Franklin Expedition men evacuating south.
“Later … these Inuit heard that people had seen more white people, a lot more white people, dying,” he said. “They were seen carrying human meat.”
Even Eber’s translator, the late Tommy Anguttitauruq, recounted a goose hunting trip in which he had stumbled upon a Franklin Expedition skeleton still carrying a clay pipe.
By 1850, coves and beaches around King William Island were littered with the disturbing remnants of their advance: Scraps of clothing and camps still littered with their dead occupants. Decades later, researchers would confirm the Inuit accounts of cannibalism when they found bleached human bones with their flesh hacked clean.
“I’ve never in all my life seen any kind of spirit — I’ve heard the sounds they make, but I’ve never seen them with my own eyes,” said the old man who had gone out to investigate the Franklin survivors who had straggled into his camp that day on King William Island.
The figures’ skin was cold but it was not “cold as a fish,” concluded the man. Therefore, he reasoned, they were probably alive.
“They were beings but not Inuit,” he said, according to the account by shaman Nicholas Qayutinuaq.
The figures were too weak to be dangerous, so Inuit women tried to comfort the strangers by inviting them into their igloo.
But close contact only increased their alienness: The men were timid, untalkative and — despite their obvious starvation — they refused to eat.
The men spit out pieces of cooked seal offered to them. They rejected offers of soup. They grabbed jealous hold of their belongings when the Inuit offered to trade.
When the Inuit men returned to the camp from their hunt, they constructed an igloo for the strangers, built them a fire and even outfitted the shelter with three whole seals.
Then, after the white men had gone to sleep, the Inuit quickly packed up their belongings and fled by moonlight.
Whether the pale-skinned visitors were qallunaat or “Indians” — the group determined that staying too long around these “strange people” with iron knives could get them all killed.
“That night they got all their belongings together and took off towards the southwest,” Qayutinuaq told Dorothy Eber.
But the true horror of the encounter wouldn’t be revealed until several months later.
The Inuit had left in such a hurry that they had abandoned several belongings. When a small party went back to the camp to retrieve them, they found an igloo filled with corpses.
The seals were untouched. Instead, the men had eaten each other.
#being so English you die of racism#because youd rather eat each other than a seal#or try to signal to the friendly locals that you need help#many such cases#UNIRONICALLY#the terror#the franklin expedition#dorothy eber#then they infected all these people with European disease of course#the national post is a chud rag so this is an unexpectedly good article for them
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In 1850, a farmer found a secret village. It was later determined to be older than the Great Pyramids of Egypt. Archeologists estimated that 100 people lived in this village named Skara Brae, the "Scottish Pompeii." The houses were connected to each other by tunnels, and each house could be closed off with a stone door.
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it's really weird when a significant portion of my job is cooking on a wood fire stove with almost entirely cast iron & then go back home to Modern Cooking.
#I can take or leave the wood fire part but#i may have just bought some cast iron pans because i found some at a dirt cheap garage sale#i do the grand majority of the cooking because my coworker is allergic to basically every part of 1850s cooking/baking
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ABBY ANDERSON’S BOOK COLLECTION
book textures found here [x]
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CITY OF THIEVES
written by david benioff, 2008
the main character’s name is lev, perhaps a nod to abby’s future ward
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THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO
written by alexandre dumas, 1846
some of the story’s key themes are revenge, redemption and forgiveness.. sounds a bit familiar, abigail
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THE ILIAD & THE ODYSSEY
written by homer, c. 8th century BC
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THE INGENIOUS GENTLEMAN DON QUIXOTE OF LA MANCHA
written by miguel de cervantes, 1605
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HEART OF DARKNESS
written by joseph conrad, 1899
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DIVINE COMEDY
written by dante alighieri, 1321
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LITTLE WOMEN
louisa may aclott, 1868
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THE MOONSTONE
written by wilkie collins, 1868
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THE ADVENTURES OF HUCKLEBERRY FINN
written by mark twain, 1884
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ONE THOUSAND AND ONE NIGHTS, TALES FROM THE ARABIAN NIGHTS
written by various authors, c. 1706-1721
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MEDEA
written by euripides, 431 BC
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THE ROSE GARDEN HUSBAND
written by margaret widdemer, 1915
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THE WAR OF THE WORLDS
written by H. G. wells, 1898
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WAR AND PEACE
written by leo tolstoy, 1867
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ROBINSON CRUSOE
written by daniel defoe, 1719
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THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY
written by oscar wilde, 1890
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THE DREAM-QUEST OF UNKNOWN KADATH
written by H. P. lovecraft, 1943
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THE SCARLET LETTER
written by nathaniel hawthorne, 1850
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NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR
written by george orwell, 1949
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TREASURE ISLAND
written by robert louis stevenson, 1883
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A TALE OF TWO CITIES
written by charles dickens, 1859
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FISHING IN UTOPIA: SWEDEN & THE FUTURE THAT DISAPPEARED
written by andrew brown, 2008
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STRANGE CASE OF DR JEKYLL & MR HYDE
written by robert louis stevenson, 1886
#as a fellow voracious reader i found this v v interesting#abby anderson#the last of us#the last of us part 2
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lol nice outfit loser. hold on i'm getting a call [places phone to ear] it's the 1850s. they still haven't found the franklin expedition.
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Alright I’m gonna tell you to take several fucking seats
I’m sorry if my interpretations of fake fun silly fictional characters is different that yours but Jesus Christ chill out maybe?? It’s not like there’s about idk 8 quadrillion different iterations of these characters or smth
In this case it was also Alfred who gave Robin to Tim, which most people would say yeah sure but Bruce ALLOWED it as Batman he ENABLED it. The same way dick did with Damian.
Now saying that it totally makes sense why he did!! As I literally said above it makes sense to give the kid who needs structure Robin and then one who keeps demanding independence independence!! and dick does that cause he ultimately isn’t in the place to be An Adult and he’s not thinking about all of the nuisances that come with making these choices for children. He may technically be an adult but that doesn’t mean his ready to take on parenting kids, and that works with his character not against it.
He treats this situation the way a big brother would Not A Parent or at least not an established parent. It’s also drawn from him seeing robin as Batman’s Son as seeing robin as a sidekick DESPITE demanding robin be an equal partner. In this way he is taking on the responsibility of Damian and trying to allow Tim room to grow. Again it makes sense he’s not stupid for doing it!! That’s what makes it tragic!! That’s what makes it good writing!! Because he gets to see his dad as a person and his little brother as a child!!! That’s interesting!!
Not whatever noncharacter bullshit where he just sits I guess??? Doesn’t say anything to Tim or Damian about the whole situation?? Just fucking twiddles his damn thumbs??? Like at the very least this gives him agency????? Cmon now
Dick: you would’ve done the same thing! I Had to take robin away from Tim and give it to Damian!
Bruce: you took it from the child craving independence and gave it to the on that needed structure. I wouldn’t have done the same thing- I have already done the thing
Dick: …
Bruce: what’s Harvey always say, ‘you either die a child or live long enough to understand your parents’
#also mind ur fucking manners about the whole literate shit#you skewing a lil to close to ableism for my liking#like CLEARLY THE OG POST WAS POKING FUN AT THE WHOLE SITUATION#but noooo comic nerd 800000 decided to tell me that ‘actually in this specific comic written in 1850’#anywaaaaayyyyysss someone’s mad they thought I was a Tim Drake fan and found out they were wrong L#all that’s to say that comics aren’t be all end all *cough* Harley Quinn was in a cartoon first *cough*#but also like maybe not this specific situation#but we’re taking the fucking batman#like I’m sorry he’s mainstream knowledge I’m allowed to have opinions on him without having to read his comics#also again I was maybe a lil agressive and I admitted that and made a joke about it#this shit is just fucking embarrassing#I’ve had conversations w people who treat comics like gospel and are still able to be fucking decent#I can smell the Voltron discourse on you do calm down#like ultimately if you disagreed with the post itself cool but you’re mad about something that most people consider canon#which okay sure you still wanna bother me specifically about it I guess#saying ^hey this didn’t happen in the comics actually!! it’s fanon :p#would’ve been the way to go about it#or even ^i know what google says but actually it was Alfred :)#like cmon dude manners pls maybe I’m a stranger not someone kicking down your door
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A BASIC GUIDE TO VICTORIAN CLOTHING, FOR FANDOMS
wherein VICTORIAN CLOTHING is understood to mean "common clothing from the 1830s to the end of the century, in fashion as set by London and followed to a greater or lesser extent in the rest of the British empire"
This is very much meant as a starting point or a cheat sheet, not a comprehensive historical essay, for people who want to know what the Fuck is happening under that morning coat and/or dress the size of a kitchen table. I've also included a little bit on likely materials and colors so you can add some texture to your fics.
Here's the rule of thumb: Victorians loved LAYERS, BUTTONS, and DECORATIVE SHIT. When in doubt, slap several layers of clothing on your guy, button 'em all together, and flourish the hell out of the top layer. Congrats, you have dressed a Victorian.
Read on for details! And check my reblogs for a note on trans characters. A Part 2 on Mending/Laundry is in the works, because it had a much bigger impact on Victorian dress at all levels of society than it does on modern fashion and I think it's worth talking about.
UNDERWEAR FOR MEN:
a warm and comfortable and easily washable undershirt (typically called a vest) with sleeves that went down to the wrist
drawers, also warm and comfortable and easily washable and covering the whole legs, fastened with buttons or ties at the waist and ankles
pair of socks
If you cover your whole body in this base layer made of undyed, unfashionable, who-cares-if-it's-stained fabric, the sweat and dirt of your body stays on this easily-washable layer and spares the outer layers of clothing that would be damaged by hot water and soaps, or at least that was the philosophy.
The most common fabric for this underwear was flannel, as it was cheap and fairly soft. Bands of cotton could be stitched to the inside of the wrists, ankles, waists, and collar if you found the wool itchy. Socks were almost always knitted wool, holes or thin spots mended with darning whether you were poor or rich.
UNDERWEAR FOR WOMEN:
the chemise / shift: a simple, short-sleeved cotton tube that fell to the mid-thigh
other underwear requires a bit of a history lesson, sorry. At the beginning of the century, you wore like 85 petticoats and no bloomers. Then crinolines--a sort of metal cage skirt that held your dress away from your body to obtain the fashionable wide silhouette--were invented in the 1850s. It was great, because they replaced 30lbs of underskirts, but also inconvenient, in that hoops of steel are inherently bouncy. To preserve modesty (and also warmth) women began wearing bloomers, open in the middle and buttoning at the waist and either at or below the knee. These were also made of plain cotton and only occasionally decorated with a bit of lace-- for all your underthings, male or female, you wanted to be able to 1) make a bunch of sets quickly and cheaply so you could change every day without needing to launder as often and 2) use cloth that could be laundered easily.
stockings were longer and more decorative than men's socks, made of wool, cotton, or silk. White was popular at the beginning of the century, but bright colors and patterns became fashionable in the middle, and conservative black stockings dominated the end of the era. Wool fabrics were the most common, warmest, and cheapest; silk stockings were for very wealthy and fashionable women as they required the most care. Near the end of the century stockings were suspended from the corset, but up til that point stockings were held up by garters tied above the knee.
MIDDLE LAYERS FOR MEN:
shirts, with much longer tails than the button-up shirts we're used to, with a buttoned slit that only went about halfway down the chest rather than all the way down the front of the garment. Lots of volume in the sleeve around the armpit, buttoned up at the cuff. At the beginning of the period, rich men's shirts were checked or patterned while working men's shirts were white(ish), but this swapped over the course of the century as colored fabric became cheaper. (It hides stains better.) The gentleman's shirt from midcentury onward was a crisp, bright white.
As a middle layer, parts of it (like the cuffs and front) could be seen in public, but you absolutely could not go out without a waistcoat and jacket. You only removed your jacket and showed your shirtsleeves at the end of the day, amongst your family.
Trousers were held up by braces / suspenders that went over the shoulders, not belts that fastened around the waist, and you did NOT let them show. They were meant to be covered entirely by waistcoats.
MIDDLE LAYERS FOR WOMEN:
As a very carefully tailored and shaped garment that couldn't really be washed, corsets went over the shift. All women wore them, even laborers, even prisoners and people in workhouses as part of their (institution-provided and deliberately demeaning) uniform. They were viewed as necessary armor to support your weak internal organs, and the physically upright posture they created went hand in hand with moral uprightness in the Victorian mind. They could lace up in the front or back, and the boning could be made of steel (cheap and sturdy) or whalebone (springier and therefore a bit more comfortable) or wood (if you are truly broke AF) or even just stiff cord (mostly for young girls, in which they were called stays).
camisoles (also called vests or corset covers) were tailored shirts worn over the corset, and could be either extremely decorative with embroidery and lace or plainer and made for warmth.
then you've got the crinoline, tied at the waist, a skirt made of steel hoops as already described.
then a couple of petticoats, decorated at the hem for fashion, layered for warmth and to hide the crinoline's hoops.
OUTERWEAR FOR MEN:
trousers, made of cotton or wool. The big differences between Victorian trousers and today's are 1) zippers hadn't been invented yet, the flies were buttoned and 2) the modern waist sits around the hipbones, while the Victorian waist was at the bottom of the ribcage.
jackets, made of thick heavily felted wool that was decently wind- and rain-proof. Darker colors in jackets and trousers lasted longer, so light-colored cloth was mostly worn by the young and rich (or those who wanted to look rich) and flashy.
waistcoats were where the fashion REALLY was. As the back was always made of plain cotton not meant to be seen, even poor men could often afford the cost of the fabric needed to make a neat waistcoat. The front could be made of embroidered silk for luxury, wool for added warmth, or printed cotton making full use of the brilliantly-colored (and relatively cheap) dyes that had just been invented. It's a little bit like people today wearing simple suits and shirts paired with wild socks.
OUTERWEAR FOR WOMEN:
and here you finally get to the f*cking dress. I couldn't possibly go into all the variations on dresses in this era, but I can say that bright colors and patterns were common for women of all classes (but were also part of the ever-present anxiety about people acting "above their station", if a maid dressed too fashionably). The design of the sleeves and the decoration of the hems changed regularly with fashion, as did the precise shape of the feminine silhouette, but the bodice was always tight and the skirts were always full. The average woman would spend more money on flourishes--ribbons, lace, other trimmings--than the dress itself, largely because the average level of skill in sewing was so high that they mostly bought the fabric for the dress and cut & sewed it themselves.
ACCESSORIES FOR MEN:
the collar was not an integral part of the shirt! It was detachable and had to be washed, starched, and ironed separately. Laborers didn't wear them, just a loosely-tied cloth around their neck, but a stand-up collar was necessary for anyone working in a business setting whether you're rich or making really terrible clerk's wages. Turned-down collars like the ones on most of our shirts today were informal and for wealthy men at leisure.
a stock or necktie, ideally black silk. Modern neckties weren't around yet, but the century moved slowly towards that and away from cravats.
gloves. Especially when status was a concern, so, men outside the home not engaged in business and servants waiting on their masters. These were tight-fitting, pale in color, and damn near impossible to launder and mend.
ACCESSORIES FOR WOMEN:
a shawl, often. Your lower half would be covered in stockings and plentiful skirts, while your upper half would only have a few layers that were usually made of cotton, so freezing your tits off was unfortunately common.
gloves. Like men's gloves, these were also status symbols worn when visiting your acquaintances or waiting on your masters. The vast vast majority of servants were women, and the rough labor of washing and cleaning fell to them, so these gloves also covered the evidence of that rough work.
HATS/BONNETS:
Everybody wore a hat when out in public. It's just what you did. The type of hat varied based on fashion, occupation, and social standing, but you had SOME kind of thing on your head when you left the house.
SOME SPECIFIC CLOTHES:
Fishermen wore knitted jumpers instead of jackets. Laborers out in the country (muddy when it rained, dusty when it didn't) wore gaiters, which were basically just rectangles or tubes of cheap-ass sacking that tied around the ankle and below the knee to keep the mud / dust off their trousers. Surgeons and people who worked a lot with ink (clerks, stationers) had sleeves, which were tubes of canvas that tied around the wrist and elbow to protect their shirtsleeves. The advantage of sleeves and gaiters is that you can remove them, toss them in a bucket of water, and beat the shit out of them to wash them without worrying about rips or tears OR getting the stains (mud, ink, blood, etc) onto your other clothes.
Maids and other laborers didn't wear crinolines, but they did wear a corset and a couple of petticoats under their dress.
More prosperous laborers might still own a collar / crinoline, but only wear it to church on Sundays or other occasions that called for nice dress.
When at home and not working or entertaining visitors, both men and women would wear slippers that could be super fancy or very simple or your kid's first sewing project, etc etc. Depends on your preference.
Men would sleep in long, loose nightshirts and women would sleep in long, loose nightdresses. Practically speaking there wasn't much difference between these garments; both might be decorated a bit with embroidery or lace. Rich people would have finer fabrics, fashionable people would have more decoration, poor people might just sleep in whatever combination of day clothes is the most comfortable. Fairly straightforward.
TO RECAP
MEN: vest + drawers + socks > shirt > trousers + braces + collar > waistcoat + stock or necktie > jacket + shoes or boots > hat
WOMEN: shift + bloomers (optional) + stockings > corset > camisole > crinoline > petticoats (minimum 2) > dress > shawl > shoes + bonnet
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SOURCES
How to Be a Victorian, by Ruth Goodman
Inside the Victorian Home, by Judith Flanders
Episode 342 of Antiques Freaks, Historical Costuming for The Terror (2018)-- the first ~8 minutes talk about men's clothes in general, then they go into naval uniforms until minute 15ish.
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something something american necropolitics the tillamook county creamery association found online on tillamook dot com that sells many dairy products in the united states under the brand name tillamook has no relationship and makes no acknowledgement of the tillamook people from whom it get its name. the name comes from the chinook translation of the people of nehalem. early contact with european sailing ships is dated to the 1770s. in 1805 lewis and clark's "discovery" expedition noted at the time that many large villages had been depopulated by pandemics and many adults had smallpox scars. this followed a period of fur trading with the involvement of hudson bay corporation. in 1850, the us govt passed the oregon donation land act, announcing over 2,500,000 acres of land as available for settlers to seize, which happened in patterns whose violence mirrors that of the continent. there was no treaty. in 1907, the tribe sued and was paid 23,500 dollars for the land the us govt has seized from them when it forced them onto the siletz reservation. the tillamook language is a salishan language that lost its last fluent speaker in 1970. many descendants are considered part of the confederated tribes of siletz. other nehalem are part of the unrecognized clatsop nehalem confederated tribes. the nehalem-tillamook were also socially and economically integrated with the clatsop peoples. today the town of tillamook has a population that is only 1.5% native american. the modern day corporation started as a settler coop created in 1909. it is the 48th largest dairy processor in north america and posted $1 billion in sales in 2021.
#sometimes i see an interesting word or name in the us and inevitably its history is something like this#but i hadn't seen an actually brand named after a tribe yet that made no acknowledgement of it#pnw#<- idk local history tag
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