#Elliot and Shayla

[streams4bytes]

[t4t-trobed-fics]

Finally posted chapter 2. sorry for the wait, happy 5/9 :)

"are you there?" is a high school au that takes place in 2017-2018. elliot meets tyrell in a youtube comment section, everyone is juuling in the bathroom, etc etc. silly concept but taken seriously because elliot takes everything seriously.

[tinyhoodieboy]

Shayla makes Elliot a baby quilt. Several patches are tactile and have different textures. All in Elliot’s favorite color (it’s green) when he’s tiny tiny that’s where he has his “tummy time” happily cooing and kicking his lil leggies while Shayla is up in the kitchen making them some dinner, tot Elliot caries the thing EVERYWHERE. There will be tears if they happen to be out and his “banky” isn’t near by! And even grown Elliot typically has it in bed he finds it hard to sleep with out it.

[streams4bytes]

I think that last one is quite delusional.

I know I haven't posted in months but here is your periodic reminder that during Tyrell and Elliot's first meeting, Elliot's actions in order are:

--Willingly shake hands like it's not a big deal --Smile --Glance up and down Tyrell's body --Bite his lower lip --Stare while blinking a lot --Be impressed by Tyrell's tech knowledge --Also please note that at no point during this interaction with Tyrell did Elliot's internal monologue take over. He didn't even look away from Tyrell for the entire conversation. That is not normal Elliot behavior lbr.

And Elliot's actions just after meeting Tyrell were, in order:

--Contemplating his dream of making the world a better place for everyone. Why? This could be interpreted as Elliot recognizing the increased challenge involved in saving the world if it were run by people who know what they're doing like Tyrell, like he's recognizing a worthy opponent. My enemies to lovers heart enjoys this interpretation. --Going home and being overcome by a crying bout over how lonely he is, something that happens every few weeks or so but not every day; why today, Elliot? --Has grudging, drug-induced sex with Shayla. We see this man have sex a total of twice, and the other time is strategic. There is nothing on earth that can stop me from believing that Elliot was thinking about Tyrell's little waistcoat while he had sex with Shayla.

In addition, please recall that moments before Tyrell introduces himself by offering a hand to shake but not forcing it on Elliot, Ollie forced physical contact Elliot didn't want. The contrast is obvious.

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[misscammiedawn]

Hi, I've been reading your Mr. Robot essays and I must say I love them. After reading the brainwashing one, I was thinking if you can write one on Angela fully, especially what kind of mental illness she would have (maybe BPD and HPD due to everything she went through), the deconstruction of perfection, toxic positivity and toxic feminsm which lead to her believing in Whiterose and her betrayal of Elliot (maybe out of jealousy towards him as well)

Thank you so much!

I'll need to do some reading and thinking if I want to tackle the topic. Unlike the other characters Angela's mental illness is a lot more implied. We know outright that Darlene has Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Dom has a form of insomnia (or a more severe sleep disorder) and it is heavily implied Whiterose has a severe obsessive compulsive fixation with time.

Tyrell is another difficult one to pin down because his depiction in season 1 is a pastiche of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho (in the same way season 1 Elliot follows many beats from the narrator from Fight Club). I have read a lot of analysis on Bateman that pin him down as Antisocial Personality, Narcissistic Personality and Borderline Personality and with Bateman, a remorseless and delusional killer it's stigmatizing no matter what way you attempt to slice that pie. For Tyrell it's easier because he displays far more empathy, affection and elevated attachment.

Angela though?

Angela is super hard mode for the analysis. Not because there's nothing to bite onto, there's SO MUCH but because she is in complete denial of her failings. Denial is one of her biggest character traits. To the point of which she seeks and draws out affection entirely from places where she is outright refused it.

"That's the thing about Angela, she doesn't love the people who love her. She loves those who don't. This is her power-saver mode."

Angela is fairly horrid to those who show her affection. Her dad is nothing but kind to her and she ruthlessly breaks his heart before Whiterose brainwashed her. She betrays Elliot in Season 3. The only character in the cast that she is consistently good to is Darlene and she admits in dialogue that she always felt that Darlene looked down on her.

She's certainly Cluster B and as you say HPD and BPD are the best bets. That is all but guaranteed from her erratic and often contradictory behavior as well as her attachment issues.

Said attachment issues are literally the only way to explain the scene between Angela and Shayla in Season 1. The writing in Mr. Robot is so tight that a sequence of Angela and Shayla making out (when Angela already identifies her as "Elliot's girlfriend") was a bit egregious. If you put it into context of her being massively sleep deprived, high and in the midst of a manic episode that leads to her poor decision to get high on a work night, stay out all night and ends with her infecting AllSafe and calling Lawyers until the start of the work day... well it's still difficult to justify but it's consistent with the level of emotion and spite driven decision making she was utilizing at the time.

Another issue with analyzing her character is the muddy water around Doubelday's exit from the show. I read that it was related to a real-life relationship with Malek that ended poorly. Regardless we know her exit from the show was not on the best of terms because they needed to use archive footage and a body double for the finale.

I once read a theory that when the show was 5 seasons instead of 4 there would have been a plot involving Tyrell and Angela inside of E Corp and I would have loved to have seen the two most insecure characters bonding. We likely would have understood more about them through their similarities. They both look down upon their kind hearted(?) fathers, they both become erratic when they are disrespected and they both place far too high a value on how they are superficially perceived. The two are a mirror to one another and they spent a lot of time together in Season 3, though we didn't get to see it.

I feel both their arcs feel incomplete because they were snipped to fit the conclusion into 13 episodes. But that's just a personal theory.

Regardless. There's a deep well and I may tackle it at some point.

I'll try and think on how to approach her, Darlene and Tyrell at a later point but until then this Reddit thread is pretty dang amazing and does the topic justice:

[bonniehooper]

MR. ROBOT REWATCH, 1x01: "eps1.0_hellofriend.mov"

-Elliot: "Hello friend." That line is so iconic and so it begins.

-"I did not hurt anyone." You're selling child pornography, dude. What do you mean you didn't hurt anyone?!

-Elliot, I don't he cares about your dad dying, unless you're not gonna turn him in.

-What an opening to the show and introduction to Elliot's character.

-Oh my God, I forgot how annoying Angela's boyfriend is.

-I love Elliot's monologue that he says in his therapist office.

-Bro, Elliot doesn't like you. Please go away.

-Tyrell! I forgot he was introduced in the first episode.

-That first interaction between Elliot and Tyrell is so weird. I can't remember if Tyrell is already working with Elliot.

-Shayla, my love!!

-First mention of fsociety.

-Gideon: "Did you know I'm gay?" Gideon, I don't know if this is the right time to just come out to your coworker.

-The first interaction between Elliot and Mr. Robot.

-Don't be mean to Shayla just because you forgot there was a possibility she would still be in your bed. Also, who cares if Angela sees?

-This interaction between Elliot and Darlene is so interesting when you already know they're brother and sister. Like how does Darlene not realize something is wrong with him?

-I love this scene between Rami and Christian on the farris wheel.

-I love how Colby kicking Angela out of the meeting made Elliot do what Mr. Robot asked him to do.

-I love that Elliot takes Flipper away from that dickhead.

-This shot of Elliot looking so happy in Times Square is so iconic.

-Elliot: "Please tell me you're seeing this too." Another iconic moment and I love that Rami Malek said that when he won his Emmy.

[trans-angela-moss]

[I'm not including Elliot, because if I did, I know Elliot would win 😮‍💨]

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[sweet-symphony0]

Hello! On the topic of Mr. Robot, how do you feel about Shayla and her character?

Hello!

I feel really bitter at how she was just a catalyst to move Elliot’s story and tie things to Vera. She was quite literally a sacrificial lamb and didn’t deserve that, but I also wasn’t as attached to her as most people in the fandom were, because I thought that romance was forced, as short as it was.

But it started the trend of Sam having this major problem with his writing, where if he can’t figure out what to do with someone, he kills them, and I find that to be incredibly lazy writing. Shayla deserved better in that regard.

Rami’s acting in his reaction to her death is one of my top scenes from him, though, so I will say it’s a very powerful scene.

I’m curious to hear your thoughts!

[sydmarch]

tyrell's in love with him vera wants him to be his partner he got with both shayla & olivia whiterose may plan to kill him but also continously believed in his capabilities elliot is the definition of "me & the bad bitches I pulled by being autistic"

[bonsoir-tyrelliot]

So arguably Mr. Robot fridged Shayla, Elliot’s girlfriend for the first half of season one. But here’s an interesting juxtaposition: Tyrell kills Sharon Knowles in the very next episode. This invites comparison.

What the fridging trope does, typically, is provide the male protagonist with rage and motivation to go after his enemies and drive the plot. The woman’s murder by the protag's enemies gives the story cheap and easy emotional stakes for the man. It also establishes him as an underdog and therefore relatable.

What’s interesting is that Tyrell murdering Sharon adheres to more of these trope conventions than Elliot experiencing Shayla’s death does:

--It's the inciting incident for Tyrell's story in Mr. Robot. It is this murder that leads directly to the cyberbombings and his death.

--It establishes that Tyrell really is not in control of anything, that he is an underdog in the world he pretends to rule.

--It ups the emotional stakes of his story. Before this, his life was about very small things he thinks are big. After he murders Sharon, everything goes technicolor. He starts rambling about godhood.

On the other hand, Vera murdering Shayla does not start Elliot down any kind of a path. He was already on the path. It does not establish him as an underdog; we already understood to what extent Elliot is and is not an underdog. It doesn't even really change his emotional stakes. He literally says right after her death that this will "just become a story, something to say. I knew a girl who died." If anything, Shayla's death just confirms his preexisting worldview that "the good can't exist without conditions."

Combine all this with the fact that one of the most consistent antagonists in Mr. Robot is Mr. Robot, and I think this murder juxtaposition highlights the theme that our greatest antagonists are almost always ourselves. Tyrell fridges Sharon and explicitly becomes his own antagonist, while at the same time explicitly diverging from the path of being Elliot's antagonist. Vera fridges Shayla and does next to nothing to Elliot from it. Because Elliot is already busy struggling with himself.

(Obviously none of this changes the fact that murdering women for men's plot lines is still murdering women for men's plot lines. The only saving grace about that is that Mr. Robot as a whole is full of fleshed out female characters. Shayla and Sharon Knowles just aren't among them.)

[kirliansjrnl]

¿Kirlian Recupera a Shayla?

Es el único camino posible. Es lo que nunca ha

hecho Kirlian. Recuperar a la persona a la que ha

dejado. Siempre la ha sustituido con paliativos

imaginarios. Con creación fantasiosa. Con

asignaturas de la carrera.

Dar la paz de la frialdad. Después de todas las

excusas asquerosas que tenía para cortar con ella.

Kirlian cortó con Shayla porque nunca había dejado

a alguien en plan bien. Porque ahora tiene a

alguien que le odia profundamente durante un

tiempo. Pero en el fondo ese Odio es un Amor

renegado. En el fondo ese Odio es el más potente

combustible nunca existente.

Ese Odio ha sido transferido a su nueva pareja,

Zero. El chico con el que fue a Planta Baja.

Yo soy el responsable del Cuerpo de Shayla. Tengo

su identidad. Tengo su número. Ya no estoy

bloqueado.

En el abismo de la muerte, le llamé a ella junto

al 911. El valium del hospital sólo sonaba a

tranquilidad profunda.

La policía está delante de mí en la cafetería.

¿Elliot hackea a un pedófilo?

Las redes de pornografía infantil sólo esconden

una única voluntad, la de tener hijos. Es por eso

que merece la pena tener compasión por Kirlian.

Porque su pedofilia es un reflejo de su deseo de

tener hijos con una chica que le rechazó.

Kirlian se está comportando con Shayla como Alice

se comportó con Kirlian. Tras años de aventuras,

¿quedan de nuevo en un café para hablar

tranquilamente y para que me recuerden todo lo que

hice mal?

Para obtener el placer sádico de todas las

verdades que necesito escuchar. Que ¿le fui infiel

con una señora en el vértice? Que lo que quería

era ¿engañarla? pero que la dejé antes de hacerlo.

Para que fuera exactamente lo que pasó con Alice y conmigo.

[laniidae-passerine]

watching the talented mr. ripley and at the scene where Ripley is almost confessing to Peter, talking about the past buried in the basement under lock and key, and there’s something so Elliot and Shayla about it… the way Ripley moves and intonates and the subject matter, telling someone without truly saying it that he wants to let him in, the whole scene being someone pretending but the veil concealing the truth is so so thin…

[bonniehooper]

MR. ROBOT REWATCH, 1x06: “eps1.5_br4ve-trave1er.asf”

-Oh, thank God, Shayla's okay. I was so scared.

-Wait, how did Elliot find her?

-Vera's brother took her?! Get your hands off her you asshole!!!!

-God, I hate Vera.

-Angela, what are you doing?

-Now, Darlene, what are you doing?

-Dude, why would you put a random flash drive you found on the ground into your computer and then start answering the questions it asks? Like are you dumb?

-Okay, you don't need to hit Elliot you asshole.

-Oh, so Darlene dropped those flash drives as a part of Elliots plan?

-Oh, shit, he knows about Tyrell walking in on his wife in the bathroom.

-Wait, is he firing Tyrell or just fucking with him?

-Great now Darlene's stuck in this mess.

-Angela now is not the time!!

-Joanna just sitting there calmly eating while Tyrell has a meltdown in the background is so funny to me.

-Angela wanting to know how Shayla is doing both makes me happy and sad.

-Mr. Robot basically saying "Fuck Shayla" is pissing me off.

-Mr. Robot: "Best thing you can do for Shayla, allow her to become a memory." That's it, I'm fighting his ass.

-You'll need to stop being such assholes to Elliot.

-Vera, shut the fuck up and stop drawing attention to yourself!!

-I think this is the most concerned we see Darlene show for Elliot.

-Oh, his brother wants to keep Vera in jail.

-Dude, I think Vera's brother is going to be dead by the end of this episode.

-Okay, so we're using Darlene as the decoy to distract the cop. Smart.

-It's smart of Elliot to get rid of Darlene so that he can keep her safe.

-Guys, I think we should leave before we're caught again.

-Shit, I knew he'd kill his brother. DAMN!!

-Vera is fucking crazy.

-I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THIS SHOW FOR KILLING OFF SHAYLA!!!!!

-SHE WAS TRYING TO CHANGE HER LIFE, SHE WANTED TO BE BETTER AND DESERVED THAT CHANCE!!!!

-Sidenote: The score during that scene is incredible.