#Dream & Lyta

[writing-for-life]

About Black Mirrors…

We are reading Collectors in our community, and although I have read the Sandman probably more times than is advisable, I can never get over the words when Dream is unmaking the Corinthian, and how they exactly mirror Morpheus’ own unravelling…

Until now, you have all sustained fantasies in which you are the maltreated heroes of your own stories…

…in which, ultimately, you are shown to be in the right…

No more…

For this is my judgment on you, that you shall know, at all times, and forever, exactly what you are…

The next time I make you, you shall not be so petty, little dream…

I’m awful, I know…

[windsweptinred]

Morpheus and Daniel, The Sandman by rainesz

[moresandmanstuff]

Sandman text posts (part 12)

[fishfingersandscarves]

number one anthropomorphic entity

[nualaofthefaerie]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, NUALA OF THE FAEIRE AND LYTA HALL, THE BEAUTIFUL DEMISE OF DREAM OF THE ENDLESS 🩷🪷

[notallsandmen]

If you think that Dream takes a tactless tone with Lyta in the series, I can tell you that it is even worse in the comics

Dream, why are you like this

Dream, I love you and you are only hurting yourself

[fowjiyo]

Characters Sandman as text posts

[maikhiwi00]

brief lives // the wake

[moon-andstardust]

iykyk

[authorgirl1111]

Sandman headcanon

Daniel hall purposefully gave himself white hair when he became dream as a way to honor Lyta Hall.

Because Daniel Hall's incarnation of dream is a huge mama's boy. Despite the fact that he no longer consider's himself Lyta's son.

[writing-for-life]

About Love As The Catalyst For Change

Okay, so while I was going through all the panels for March Mania, I also stumbled over these ones again:

And although I’ve read it all a million times and had all these feelings before, I just need to blurt them out:

Love Is What Changes Him

It’s such a central message of The Sandman, but I feel it often gets lost in a million other things. And they’re all important, but so is this one.

Because yes, Dream went with Delirium and found Destruction (and Despair found him btw), and his Destiny was Death. And that whole Desire thing… ��nuff said. BUT… (major spoilers ahead)

Those panels above are basically the turning point in a nutshell. No, well, the turning point is actually the moment he kisses (and then kills) Orpheus, but those panels are the essence:

He set out with Delirium in hopes to find Thessaly (the pendant Nuala wears here used to be hers, and she gave it to her when she left the Dreaming and him. And I can’t even begin to tell you how I feel about him letting Nuala keep a gift of his ex, who betrays him later by protecting the woman he hurt, and then making it the item that holds the power with which Nuala can call in her boon. One could spin that very far in all sorts of different directions).

But when he comes back after killing Orpheus, it doesn’t really matter anymore. Thessaly was the usual romanticised dream that could never be real. But he finally did find love. For his son. The unconditional kind. The one that doesn’t need anything in return because it just is. And he was loved back, if for a brief moment. But it was real, not a dream. And that love stays real (that’s why it initiates the turn, 3rd act and all that).

I’m reminded again of the words of Frank McConnell in his intro to The Kindly Ones:

“And with [killing Orpheus], Dream has entered time, choice, guilt and regret—has entered the sphere of the human.”

(Side note at this point: With all of this in mind, read Dream Hunters [again], and look at all THREE main characters—that includes the onmyōji, not just the monk and the fox.)

And it would be so easy to say, “Well, love killed him then, what’s the fucking point?” Not just the love for his son, but also the love of a maiden who called in her boon (Nuala), the love of a mother for her child (Lyta), the love of a crone for no one but herself (Thessaly).

But we all know that “change or die” was never an “either or”, because it’s an “and both”. And it’s ultimately love, in all its shapes and forms, four times over, that changed him (while it was also part of the death knell, but that’s a complicated one. In any case, it also led to change: To be(come) a new, better, kinder Dream).

Yes, call me romantic or hopeless (although I think that’s the wrong word in this context, because I feel it’s the opposite), I don’t care.

Because that story is about catharsis. And that means Dream is a vessel for our feelings. And the feelings won’t be the same if we change any of this, for better, for worse. Because truthfully: That story is about me. And you. And you.

About allowing love, of whatever kind (this is very clearly not just about romantic love), to change us. And that ultimately means letting go (of control). Just like he did.

Bleurgh, I’m crying. Catharsis 🤣

[windsweptinred]

I've moved this here @bobbole because we HAVE to expand on this! I HAVE THOUGHTS!!

Snapping on my shipping goggles. 'If' The Dreaming comics have to be canon then this for me is THE Corinthiel moment. This is when they realise it's love and they're the one. The fact the Corinthian is abscent from the Dreaming when everything goes down is so relevant. They're still both relatively young here, at a point where establishing their individual identities, separate from their predecessors must have been the most challenging. And the very moment the Corinthian is gone, (The only being who can really empathise with and aid Daniel in this plight). Daniel's memories of Dream overwhelm him and he immediately reverts to following in his predecessors behavior patterns. He's desperate for love and goes looking for it in all the wrong places. When it's RiGHT THERE waiting for him. It's such a Morpheus thing to do it pains me. I know the comic implies there's a measure of sorcerery in Daniel pursuit of Ivy Walker. But even so, I'm going to fanatically stand my ground that if Cori hadn't been off on a side quest at this formative point of Daniel's reign, none of this would have happened. The moment The Corinthian is gone Daniel looses his grip on HIMSELF.

......

So the moment the Corinthian returns and finds out what's gone down is a pivotal point in Cori 2.0s development for me. He's presented with a very similar senario to the one his predecessor once faced... Dream 'imprisoned' by occultists and the taste of freedom. And instead of bemoaning missed opportunities, he goes apoplectic. His fury is a declaration of absolute loyalty in itself. And his incensed rage at the thought of loosing Daniel, of someone touching what is HIS, a revelation of love. And here's the thing, even at this youthful stage as Dream, there's no way the Corinthian could hurt Daniel without Daniel allowing it. But he does. He allows Cori to shash that cursed mark from his skin. To vent all that fear, and rage and brand him anew. Mark him as his. This is Daniel's, he's the one, he's always been the one moment of realisation. It's the most fucked up version of 'I love you' 'I know' in the history of existence. And it's so unapologetically them.

[moresandmanstuff]

Sandman text posts (part 33)

[densewentz]

People give Dream so much shit about the whole vortex arc and I don't understand it at all. My mans did exactly what he was supposed to do despite the fact that he was exhausted and heartsick and didn't actually want to, and then turns out it was all just another unwarranted revenge plot attempting to punish him for doing what needed to be done to protect everyone?? Sir that is my baby

[notallsandmen]

The Honk Zone Presents: Absurdist Sandman AUs

Dreamling, but no one likes hair pulling or has a praise kink AU

Hob is just so so on living AU

Witchfinder General Hob AU

Dream, but when Hob calls him a friend he's just like "ok bestie" AU

Dream is a neurotypical extrovert AU

Dream does Eat Pray Love after Calliope divorces him AU

Commitmentphobe Orpheus AU

Incel Basement Dweller Orpheus AU

Death makes time for her siblings AU

True Crime Wine Mom Dream AU

Flat Earther Dream AU

Disney Live Action Sequel Enjoyer Dream AU

Agony Aunt Columnist Destiny AU

Live Laugh Love Author Despair AU

Couple’s Counselor Desire AU

Marie Kondo Organizer Delirium AU

Dreaming Union Leader Mervyn AU

Agoraphobic Destruction AU

Hitchcock’s The Birds (but it's all just Jessamy and Matthew) AU

Anger Management therapist Lyta Hall AU

The Corinthian Ken Barbie AU

Instagram Influencer John Dee AU

Destiny’s Wet Hot Summer AU

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