#Dr Lyman Hall

[here-a-lee-there-a-lee]

Honestly Rutledge looks so sweaty throughout 1776 (and within good reason because they had a WHOLE SONG about how hot it was) BUT

I have to realize that it’s probably because he was getting all hot and bothered under the collar for Lyman Hall….😮‍💨

[macaron-n-cheese]

Pro-independence delegates when they see Dr Lyman Hall

[fetchmearum420]

So the REAL Lyman Hall of Georgia might have been bisexual. Idk I read somewhere about that. But i have a theory that Jonathan Moore researched his character for 1776 and read that fact and decided to play Lyman Hall as if he were bi. I mean for example, in the scene where Rutledge has just introduced Hall to Joseph Hewes and other delegates from the south, Hewes asks Hall his views on independence and Hall says “I’m here without instructions Mr Hewes, able to vote my own personal convictions”

And then Rutledge says: “and they are?”

And then hall, after a moment says “personal” but the way he says it and looks at Rutledge makes me think he’s talking about his bisexuality or hinting at it, but also his personal opinion on independence he’s hiding.

But get this: THIS PART WAS NOT IN THE BROADWAY PRODUCTION!

I swear to whatever God there is that Peter Hunt added this scene specifically to show off that Lyman Hall might have been in love with Rutledge.

BA BOOM!

[jessbakescakes]

teacher au & fake dating for donna/josh?

The thing is, when Donna needed a date to her ex's wedding, she asked Sam first. Sam got all weird about it -- could he not simply sit with her, dance with her a couple of times, and maybe snake an arm around her if the situation called for it? Apparently, that's a non-starter, because it'd be like dating my sister. No one asked for fake dating, but if it would make her feel less weird about going, then she'd be all for it.

Enter Josh Lyman, who teaches down the hall from her. He and Sam and Donna eat lunch together every day, but apparently Josh doesn't seem to feel a sibling-esque bond with her because he is happy to accept her invitation. He shows up in a new suit -- or at least one that's dry cleaned and ironed. He doesn't leave her side the whole night. He spins her around the dance floor, his hand rarely leaves the small of her back, and he's excited to talk her up to anyone who will listen.

Including their new principal, Dr. Abigail Bartlet.

They didn't anticipate seeing her running their first faculty meeting of the school year, nor did they anticipate her dropping by Josh's classroom to tell them how much they remind her of her and her husband. So, they decide to keep up the facade. The only problem is, they've been denying to their students that they've been dating every time they ask. Now, they're stuck trying to convince their students that they're not dating, for... professionalism, or something, they've never really had much of a solid answer to that one, while also pretending that they are dating for the benefit of Dr. Bartlet and maybe their co-workers?

It's a complicated game, as complicated as the new feelings popping up for Donna. Sure, she's always had a crush on Josh, who wouldn't? But he's slowly becoming the person she counts on when she has a mountain of papers to grade or when an angry parent emails her. And they're spending their evenings and weekends together with increased frequency -- for appearances' sake, according to Josh -- and she finds that she misses him when they're apart.

Dr. Bartlet corners Donna one afternoon to tell her that they need another female chaperone for prom -- she doesn't teach the kids who are typically the prom-goers, but how's she going to say no to her boss? It's only when she arrives, all dressed up, that she realizes Josh has also been volun-told to chaperone.

He looks good -- he always looks good -- but they're working, and they're stuck in the pretending cycle. So she's surprised when toward the end of the night she feels him take her hand and lead her outside of the prom venue to a little garden, where they share their first dance.

And their first kiss.

And definitely not their last.

Give me two tropes from this list and I’ll tell you how I’d make them into a joshdonna fic!

[angedemystere]

Doing my yearly rewatch of 1776, and I noticed that most of the delegates from the southern states are dressed in bright, flowery patterns. But Dr. Hall is dressed in more muted colors. It's also interesting that we know Lyman Hall is a doctor; presumably the other delegates are landowners - as in plantation owners. Gives you clues early on the differences between him and the rest of the Southern congressmen in terms of economic status and political motives.

[adittyofdittos]

Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.

- Edmund Burke, who is often regarded as "the philosophical founder of conservatism," from his SPEECH TO THE ELECTORS OF BRISTOL, ON HIS BEING DECLARED BY THE SHERIFFS DULY ELECTED ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES IN PARLIAMENT FOR THAT CITY, ON THURSDAY, THE 3D OF NOVEMBER, 1774, excerpted in The Works of the Right Honourable Edmund Burke. 6 vols. London: Henry G. Bohn, 1854--56, as Volume 1, Chapter 13, Document 7.

While not knowing Burke and his context in history well enough to have much opinion on him, I'll admit this as one of my favorite quotes about politics. AND I'll admit I was totally exposed to it by its quoting in the musical 1776 by Dr. Lyman Hall of Georgia as his justification for voting for independence. And his reasoning around the quote is really what set my interpretation.

I have no idea how much Hall's dialogue in the musical reflects the real history. I suspect extremely little because most of what I have looked up about the reality of the event is significantly different from the musical. But I feel the way it is used there is both a just representation of Burke's meaning AND exactly what I feel a Politician SHOULD be:

Someone who carefully weighs the wants and needs of their constituency with both the humility to understand that they are just one person who can easily be wrong AND also the strength of character to do what they are sure is the correct thing for the greater good, most especially when that is neither the easy path nor the popular will.

The whole speech is a bit long and dull but that excerpt, Volume 1, Chapter 13, Document 7, really is worth reading the whole thing for the entirety of the principle directly laid out.

[stoportotouch]

gotta say. dr. lyman hall is basically the winner of 1776. in his first scene he’s completely starstruck by franklin but then the next time he appears they’re best friends. the only true winner of the american war of independence as told by sherman and stone.

[lboogie1906]

Norfolk State University (NSU) is a public HBCU in Norfolk. The university is a member school of the Thurgood Marshall College Fund and the Virginia High-Tech Partnership.

The institution was founded on September 18, 1935, as the Norfolk Unit of Virginia State University. Eighty-five students attended the first classes held in 1935. Mr. Samuel Fischer Scott, an alumnus of Virginia Union and Portsmouth native, served as the first director with the primary focus of maintaining the solvency of the school. Dr. Lyman Beecher Brooks, a Virginia Union alumnus, succeeded Mr. Scott as a director in 1938 and served as provost, (1963–69) and the first president (1969–75).

In 1942, the school became independent of VSU and was named Norfolk Polytechnic College. Within two years, by an act of the Virginia Legislature, it became a part of Virginia State College (now Virginia State University). By 1950, the 15th anniversary of the college’s founding, the faculty had grown to fifty and the student enrollment to 1,018. In 1952, the college’s athletic teams adopted the “Spartan” name and identity.

The City of Norfolk provided a permanent site for the college on Corprew Avenue, and in 1955 Brown Hall, formerly Tidewater Hall, opened as the first permanent building on the new campus. In 1956 the future Norfolk State College granted its first bachelor’s degree.

In 1969, the college was divided from Virginia State College and was named Norfolk State College. #africanhistory365 #africanexcellence #hbcu

[johnadamsbignaturals]

Quick question on a scale of 9-10 how much do you love Dr. Lyman Hall of Georgia

eleventy

[cinemaocd]

@oh-mr-adams

So I watched 1776 last night paying special attention to Ned and Lyman, as you, the world’s foremost Ned/Lyman shipper doubtless will appreciate. And I noticed this for the first time...

Ned casually leaning in the background while he creeps on Lyman...

[auroraborealia]

you're officially invited to lyman hall fan club

OMG yes, I absolutely want to be in the Lyman Hall Fan Club! Best fan club ever, where do I sign?

[here-a-lee-there-a-lee]

The saga unfortunately continues

[macaron-n-cheese]

Guysguysguys it was sooooo good! I will tell you all about it :D

*big inhale*

I wore a very extra outfit. It was even better than my prom outfit (since I didn't go to prom lol). I finished my waistcoat last night so I could wear it over my 18th century shirt today! I paired my long blue skirt with it. I wore my clocked stockings and 18th century American Duchess shoes which I'm so glad I wore since it looked like the cast's shoes but with a ribbon instead of a buckle :3. It was complemented by a staff and cast member X333!

I got first row seats in the balcony near the middle. The bar in front was a little annoying but not too bad. I now have a lot of merch so yippee :). It was sooooo good. There was a projector on the curtains that worked very nicely. It was used as a usual curtain, to give the date, record votes, and foreshadowing of the U.S. I am so happy that there was still a drumroll before George Washington's name. All the humor was on-point. All I wish for is more of it lol.

I was so excited that I cried at John Adams' opening line. "Sit Down, John" was very good ofc! I really liked what they did with "Piddle, Twiddle, and Resolve." The seated choreography was cute. "Till then" was also very sweet :3. Adams and Franklin were very silly ofc. Richard Henry Lee was incredibly epic as well as "The Lees of Old Virginia." "The Lees of Old Virginia" was yassified (as it should)! It was used to give more context on the Lee dynasty and such. My reaction when all the Lees that RHL names are revealed behind the front curtain and there are added references to "Dixie" (the foreshadowing was great. I see you, Bobby Lee):

The character introductions with Dr. Lyman Hall were great. It was very entertaining to watch all the delegates arriving at congress and the following debate. Colonel Thomas McKean was great ofc, too! I am very glad that there was audible laughter form the audience at John Dickinson's stupid New Jersey joke. The first Thomas Jefferson sex joke was made so extra. The cast was choreographed to laugh in slow motion it was amazing iushdushuifsu. Throughout, John Hancock was great and so sassy, especially with New York lol. Dickinson slayed, very nice. Charles Thomson was nice, very good reading. John's postponement idea is so hastily presented to congress.

"But, Mr. Adams" was wonderful! I love Roger Sherman so much fuiefbfeb they gave off such sweet vibes. The Franklin-Sherman-Livingston glee club was so funny uisdhbcvuidshviuhs they were extremely silly. Their joking with Adams and Jefferson was impeccable. Unfortunately, there was no gay stairs so Adams and Jefferson didn't look like they were going to kiss.

Jefferson has a violin solo and it slaps hard. The inclusion of an enslaved servant for Jefferson was very smart. I still don't understand the " 'Then you must tell me how you did it.' 'Disgusting...' " joke at all even though I've asked my friend who does understand it like 5 times. Tom and Martha didn't make out for a minute thankfully, it would have been so awkward lol. They did a cute waltz instead :3. "Yours, Yours, Yours" was very sweet ofc! They added in "Remember the ladies" B). After Abby and John exchange letters Adams smells his and it's so cute uzhdfuidshf and he acts really awkward when Franklin suddenly appears. Martha is more of an "owo" than an "uwu." "He Plays The Violin" had NO subtly and was a bit shorter than older versions. When Martha sang "Say I died" I could feel a foreshadowing vibe that isn't in previous versions, so I really like that. Lights got darker and Jefferson hugged her. Martha's dress had very strong Edwardian vibes, but it was still very pretty.

Intermission!

The reconvening of congress is nice, I like how the delegates are just vibing. When Thomson reads the dispatch about the whoring and the drinking all the delegates just go 🤨. "Cool, Cool, Considerate Men" was, well, cool. The leather apron and McNair are combined so the lead in to "Momma, Look Sharp" is a bit different. The song itself has also been yassified, with the cast playing the part of the mothers whose sons died. It was preformed beautifully.

The bird argument was fun ofc. "The Egg" was yassified, too! At the end there is an added foreshadowing showing snapshots of U.S. history with the line "The eagle inside belongs to us." Very cool! The amendments debate after is as usual. Jefferson's approval for the amendments is good. The "Molasses to Rum" sequence was intense and beautifully done. Its intensity was turned way up and it was really uncomfortable, as it should be. Edward Rutledge's singing was beautiful and haunting.

John and Abby's final scene together is sweet :). The next dispatch between Thomson and Washington is very nice. "Is Anybody There" went really hard! I wish there was a recording. The final voting process was also nicely done. The removal of the slavery clause was really tense but good. Dickinson at the end didn't get enough recognition from the audience, neither did the "Harvard vs. William and Mary" joke :(. I wish it hit because they are both important historical points. The ending was great! The final signing and dispatch are impactful, too. :)

TL;DR: IT'S AMAZING!!!!

Sorry if my writing got flat near the end of my description, I started to get drowsy.

I'm finally going to see the 1776 revival tomorrow!

I've been waiting 3 years!!!

[fetchmearum420]

Fine I’ll do it

[andrewlloydwebber]

WICKED, 1776, AND THE BAND’S VISIT AUDIO GIFTS

Quite random selection audios from my recent theatregoing experiences. I don’t know if anyone is interested but I figured it’s better than hoarding them. Reblog if you download, gift to anyone if requested.

WICKED 2nd National “Munchkinland” Tour / June 29th, 2022 / Boston, MA, USA / Lissa deGuzman (Elphaba), Jennafer Newberry (Glinda), Jordan Litz (Fiyero), John Bolton (The Wizard), Lisa Howard (Madame Morrible), Kimberly Immanuel (Nessarose), Jake Pedersen (Boq), Michael Genet (Doctor Dillamond) / Note: A cellphone went off during the Fiyero reveal. 

Google Drive (2 untracked M4A files)

THE BAND’S VISIT 1st National Tour / June 16th, 2022 / Worcester, MA, USA / Janet Dacal (Dina), Sasson Gabay (Tewfiq), Ramin Doostdar (u/s Haled), Ali Louis Bourzgui (u/s Itzik), Coby Getzug (Papi), Hannah Shankman (u/s Iris), Yoni Avi Battat (Camal), Joshua Grosso (Telephone Guy), David Studwell (Avrum), Billy Cohen (Zelger), Dana Saleh Omar (u/s Julia), Marc Ginsburg (Sammy) 

Google Drive (1 untracked M4A file)

1776, Pre-Broadway / May 28th, 2022 / Cambridge, MA, USA / Gisela Adisa as Robert Livingston, Nancy Anderson (George Read), Becca Ayers (Col. Thomas McKean), Tiffani Barbour (Andrew McNair), Allison Briner Dardenne (Stephen Hopkins), Allyson Kaye Daniel (Abigail Adams/Rev. Jonathan Witherspoon), Elizabeth A. Davis (Thomas Jefferson) , Rose Van Dyne (u/s Charles Thomson), Joanna Glushak (John Dickinson), Grace Stockdale (u/s Richard Henry Lee), Eryn LeCroy (Martha Jefferson/Dr. Lyman Hall), Crystal Lucas-Perry (John Adams), Liz Mikel (John Hancock), Patrena Murray (Benjamin Franklin), Oneika Phillips (Joseph Hewes), Lulu Picart (Samuel Chase), Sara Porkalob (Edward Rutledge), Sushma Saha (Judge James Wilson), Brooke Simpson (Roger Sherman), Salome Smith (Courier), Sav Souza (Dr. Josiah Bartlett), Imani Pearl Williams ( u/s Caesar Rodney) /

Google Drive (2 untracked M4A files)

[claudiasjeancregg]

for the au ask been thinking about donna becoming toby's assistant instead of josh's

this is like… my favorite au. oh my god. i’ve thought about it so much because donna/toby friendship is something i am unreasonably obsessed with, and this is the LOGICAL extension of it!!!! just. picture it.

Donna walked into Josh's office first, and he wasn’t there. So she wandered around a little bit, and ended up hearing a phone ring next door. She answered it absentmindedly, looking around for a nameplate on the desk to give to the caller.

Donna didn't find one, but heard it instead- “Toby Ziegler,” a man said gruffly, eyes narrowed.

“Who the hell are you?”

It took a while to wear him down, and a little bit of (a lot of) intervention and advocacy from CJ, but Toby had a bit of a soft spot for girls who reminded him of his sisters. Donna's a pain in his ass for the first few days, mostly because of how hard she was trying to be deferential and conspicuous while he worked. That girl couldn’t be deferential for the life of her, something that was obvious by Day Two. By Day Four, Toby was starting to rip his hair out at the way she carried herself, the way she let other staff members talk to her. He remembered what she had said the first day, when Toby had asked her why on Earth he should hire someone who had already hijacked his phone lines and his favorite pen.

“Because, I think I could be good at this. I think you could find me valuable.”

And she wasn’t wrong. By Day 6, the only thing getting in the way of Donna being the perfect assistant was his complete confusion at how she ended up here. Eventually, he sat her down and asked her the thing that had been bugging him for all seven days of the week she’d been working here.

“Why are you here, Donna?”

She was defensive immediately. Some people hadn’t been the kindest to this wide-eyed Midwestern girl with no prior experience in politics, and even he could tell it hurt her a lot more than she let on.

“Look, if you’re going to tell me to go back to Wisconsin and get married to my douchebag ex-boyfriend—“

“I couldn't care less about Dr. Freeride, or whatever the hell Josh called him. Why are you here, of all places?” It took her a minute to decide if he’s asking for real, but apparently he passes the sincerity test— a first for him.

“I saw the governor, uh, Governor Bartlet on TV. And when he— when I left Wisconsin, I don't know, I guess I just remembered that his campaign was nearby.”

Toby stared at her. “Yeah, so what really happened?”

Donna looked straight past him, avoiding all eye contact. “That is what happened.”

“Nashua is twenty-odd hours away from middle-of-nowhere, Wisconsin.”

“From the middle of nowhere, or from Wisconsin?” she said with a hint of snark in her voice.

“Shut it, Blondie.” There was more affection in his voice that Toby cared to admit. “Why’d you choose us?”

“I wasn’t lying.”

“Donna—”

“I wasn’t! I saw Governor Bartlet talking to the dairy farmers on TV.”

“VFW Hall,” he interrupts, mouth opening a little. “That was, uh, someone filmed that?”

“You remember it? God, Toby, you must have been doing like three of those a week.”

He laughed. “Try five. And yeah, I remember it.” He cocks his head, smiling a little. “I was about to get fired.”

“You got fired?”

“Nope. I got promoted.” Toby shakes his head, shakes off that memory that he feels like he’s viewing through the grainy lens of a camera. “Anyway. Why, why was that the one that got you?”

“Well, it might have been the only thing on the radio.”

“You mean the TV?”

“Come on, Toby, no one was filming that. And no one was listening, except for the radio station in my car as I sat in the driveway contemplating the ruination of my life choices.”

“So let me get this straight. You’re in your car, you just broke up with Dr. Freeride—”

“Josh will be happy to know his little nickname is catching on,” she muttered.

“And you happen to turn to the station where Bartlet is speaking to dairy farmers?”

“Yeah. Except it wasn’t about dairy farmers at all.” She smiled, a radiant smile that had Toby almost understanding why Josh won’t shut up about her. “One in five children live in the most abject, dangerous, hopeless, backbreaking, gut wrenching, poverty, one in five, and they're children. If fidelity to freedom and democracy is the code of our civic religion then surely, the code of our humanity is faithful service to that unwritten commandment that says ‘We shall give our children better than we ourselves had.”

She squinted her eyes, quoting from memory.

“And I was sold.”

Toby had no idea what to say, except... “Wow.”

“Is it that stupid?” she moaned. “This is why I tell people the other story!”

“No, it’s not stupid. Well, not entirely— ow!” She shoved him into his filing cabinet, and he almost threatened to fire her for the second time that hour. But he wouldn't do that, they both know that. He couldn't.

“It’s just funny. That’s the first time Josh saw Bartlet speak either,” he observed.

Toby noticed how Donna blushed at just his name, and couldn’t help but roll his eyes. He wasn’t blind. Every person in the building had noticed those two’s heart eyes after a week of working together. At this point, Donna working as his assistant was just a public service so no one had to deal with some absurdly complicated work-romance conflict.

And he didn't hate her, as much as he tried to. Donna was too smart to be working for someone like Josh Lyman, she needed to be somewhere where a love-struck man would have no hand in her career.

“So you drove all the way here?”

“Yeah,” she nodded simply. “What else could I have done?”

Toby thought about that, really thought about it. She wasn’t wrong. This wasn’t a campaign, it was a calling. And maybe people— maybe he— had been too quick to assume that just because an assistant was joining instead of the Deputy Campaign Manager, her choice didn't mean as much.

“I guess I understand that. Well, welcome aboard then, Donna.”

“I’ve already been your assistant for a week,” she pointed out.

“I can still change my mind!” He called out half-heartedly.

She was already halfway across the halfway, relaying the entire story to Josh. He was grinning wider than Toby had ever seen him smile, squeezing Donna’s hands as she almost burst with excitement at her job’s newfound permanence.

These two fools would be dating before the election was called, that was one thing he was sure of. And if not... Well, if not, then God help them all.