#DBZA Vegeta is my hero

[knowlessman]

bnha s2e6-9 or, like, something

so yeah tokoyami is, like, cool. hope he stays cool, I don't think I've heard much of anything specific about him

oh damn, plz tell me todoroki isn't gonna try and blackmail him or something -- ah k, just more of a statement of intent. I think.

all might has gotta be at least somewhat aware that he's poking a bear rn -- no he's just… I guess he just really doesn't know -- wow, is endeavor actually just bakugo but grown-up?

…bwhut. his mom did? …damn

deku you are talking to a victim of abuse what is this "I'm just as much a protagonist as you are" shit

got the feeling bakugo is gonna find a way to use this against someone, I don't know that for absolutely positive but I got a bad feeling about it

okay kaminari just lost a lot of points with me, he might be joining mineta in superhell tier if he keeps this up -- facepalm I'm sorry who needs or wants backstory for this seconds-long bit. we did not need to know where the uniforms came from -- invisible girl might be ending up there too tbh, I'm not happy about it but she seems to only really exist for perv bits

come on I wanna see what Gamzee's quirk is

hm. -- oh goddammit tell me gamzee isn't an enchanter. a memory-wiper. -- why are they keeping the pompoms? I guess they're free and they can throw them to distract an opponent?

am very confused tbh but the entire cavalry battle thing was nonstop confusion about how anything worked so whatever

well, we're gonna be seeing shinso up close then I guess. this oughta be weird.

"perverse person" I guess Mineta was too hard to grab, and Kaminari too dangerous. I know literally nothing about this blond rando

"some tried to sharpen their senses" bakugo Blair Witching bc I guess he thinks it'll make him hear better

"put your morals and ethics aside for a moment, because we have a magic medic!" dood you don't wanna say that when you've got people like vegeta in the tournament, she can't fix a corpse can she? -- "anything life-threatening is out" okay that's good to clarify I guess

"'I give up, huh?' it's a test of your spirit then" I'm getting memories of the tournament arc from Hunter x Hunter (uh, one of them, anyway?); I foresee mind games from gamzee here

aizawa with very good points about the physical thing

it's literally just mind control. so, yeah, an inherently evil power, especially since it seems like it also prevents memories forming (or just can do that? unclear). : | at the same time, it's not like you get to pick what your quirk is… (for the record, by "mind games" I was guessing more like "give up or I'll wipe a bunch of your memories," much less straightforward)

wait shit deku has avatar ghosts? daaang

…shinso might be an okay guy. -- "why do you want to be a hero?" deku plz shut the fuck up -- okay yeah gamzee's okay, he's cool

medic lady is right to hate all might's might guy bullshit, he's not consistently as bad as might guy but it is there

all might doesn't believe in ghosts in a world that's mostly supers, got it

who even is sero?

"you have a duty to surpass goku to boost my ego, even though it'll inevitably just turn me against you because you surpassed me"

ojiro is just okay. he's very mid, and his tail is a little gross, but he's just a good guy. he's tien if tien had even less personality than, well, dbza gave him (never watched actual dbz)

oh, sero is tapeface. aight. let's see how badly he jobs this one -- uh? what he do -- zuko. what did you do…? -- I think I remember that screenshot from death battle. I guess they musta paired him against zuko? I don't remember anything about it tho (I stopped watching it awhile ago anyway, not curious enough to go looking for it)

fuck it, next

(skipping thru intro) nextflix has spoiled me so much. hell, imagine watching this on tv. nightmare.

go, plant lady! kick this pervert's sidekick's ass! -- plant lady is starfire apparently. not losing many points, but losing a nonzero amount, and I know this is probably a contentious stance. at least she has character. (tbf to her tho, radio guy is annoying and the assasssin thing was uncalled for) -- dumbass didn't even realize he was at a type disadvantage

momotaro or wevertf his name is (the blond "neh neh class a class b" guy) is like if mineta was just as annoying without being a perv

deku being relatable ig. that gaming geek mindset

hehehe iida has a quirk that has super modes and she still wanted to give him a handicap -- ohhh, she does have a quirk, super vision. cool. also makes sense that it would help with gadgeteer stuff. coolcool

oh cool off, iida, she gave you the win and didn't have to 'XD she maybe went a few boards overboard with it, but you did get a win

uraraka looks like that girl from nichijou who loses her yaoi rn. heavy times approaching, I think

I have a question: are lasergut's lasers not lethal, and if so, how? they could just say energy blasts/beams but they're saying laser. -- just… stop doing the hip thrusts, please, you're fucking gross dude

ooh, birdman vs quiet metal gear, this should be something -- aw. -- radio guy, just get off the mic

METAPOD. V. METAPOD. IT'S HAPPENING. IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING. -- I have a feeling the steel guy is just gonna overheat tho, that might be how this one goes. -- aw. -- ARM WRESTLING 'XD you don't think they're gonna tie with that, too? hell, catch them tying rock paper scissors - oh wait maybe tetsu would pick scissors

aight, mister small pond big fish, let's see what the mankanshoku special has in store for you -- "this isn't the face of a regular person!" no kidding. you're gonna push your teeth out that way bro, I don't even know if that's a thing but you're gonna make it a thing and then have no teeth

…bloodymindedly reaching for the moon? is she gonna get this that way?

oh fuck off hamtaro nobody likes you

!! -- (hamtaro can still fuck off tho) -- um. uraraka that's cool and all but it's… shrapnel, in a moment, I think?

is she still in bounds tho -- aw, c'mon. I call patriarchy on that, let her play

"frail girl" kaminari joins mineta in superhell tier. dammit

'XDDDDD I told you, I told you about armwrestling, I told you dog - oh the class a guy won. kirishima I think

don't you get out of school at the same time regardless? it might be that your first one doesn't matter as much as your second or third.

we interrupt this moment of People Being Pretty Good to Each Other to put fucking Endeavor on the screen -- "this is one person I can't let know about All for One." good read. -- deku stop poking this bear right now or we're gonna need a replacement protagonist -- (okay good he stopped, phew)

oh holy fuck it's protag vs protag, it's goku vs saitama, goku has to win but howtf is that gonna happen

next time, I'm afraid. I wouldn't be stopping here if I didn't have stuff in the morning, that's for sure

[araniladin]

Thwarting my plans

Cinder: What are you doing?

Ruby: What am I doing?

Cinder: What are you doing?

Ruby: Nothing much

Cinder: Thwartin' my plans?

Ruby: Thwarting your plans?

Cinder: Are you?

Ruby:...Yes

Cinder: I'm going to @$%^%ing kill you

[slothcritic]

Dragon Ball Z Abridged - Episode 5 Review

Weird yet creative cutaways with strong overarching momentum.

Vegeta: Kills Bugs Dead opens with Goku finally reaching the end of Snake Way and the end of his journey to reach King Kai. The "nice job, jackass" as Goku literally craters into the planet sets the tone for this character in a big way. We're also treated to the incredible hijinks of Vegeta and Nappa.

[Title Sequence]

The pit-stop at Arlia at least receives a well-fitted and rather hilarious incarnation in this series. Even though the episode alternates its focus between King Kai and Arlia, I'm going to talk at length about Arlia first, and then move onto the King Kai segments.

I'm already going into this scene with some personal bias, as the "stronger guy playing along with the weaker guy because it'd be funny" trope is one of my favorites. And here we have exactly this. Vegeta and Nappa allow themselves to be captured and thrown in jail by the Arlians, where they meet an assortment of varied bug characters.

"Don't drop the soap" seems a little outdated for the modern style of TFS, as I feel they've leaned away from really older, cruder, less PC subject matters like calling someone retarded or insinuating prison rape, etc, but it fits Nappa's character completely as someone who is childish, crass, annoying for the sake of being annoying, and kind of a jerk. TFS has at least acknowledged the idea of possibly re-dubbing Season 1 with better equipment and perhaps a more refined script, and I dearly hope they keep this line unedited simply for the sake of nailing Nappa’s character identity.

After very nearly becoming a prison bitch, Vegeta decides he's had enough and promptly kabooms his way out of prison, landing smack-dab in the middle of a coliseum with the king of Arlia and his queen.

Nappa's blunt manner of introducing himself with simply "Hi." will never age.

It’s noteworthy that scene is also the first moment we get a good look at Vegeta as a character. Nappa was firmly established as the goofball from the start, but Vegeta's portrayal has more depth to it than could be conveyed in one-liners. Most of which is just sass, smug pride, and anger, but still.

It's also made clear very quickly that despite their bantering idiocy and gruff talk that they're not just for show, as Nappa no-diff's the thirteen elite Arlian guards with a massive shock wave that we later see level a city.

The king and queen are then more or less blackmailed into fucking. Nappa's eager fascination during this whole scene, the descriptions, visual edits and sound design are... Well, there's no other way to put it, it's fucked up. And it is hilarious! These are some very creative takes and decisions that were made entirely for internal experience of the show itself rather than as a parody of something else. Nappa even takes a photograph of it and sends it to Vegeta, since he's abstained from watching.

The comedic jabs don't stop there either, as Nappa tries to adopt the Arlian Rancor, but just like the kid who can't sit still, Nappa ends up breaking everything he plays with. Just as Vegeta is about to kill the king, rocks begin flying around the coliseum.

"What are you doing?"

Vegeta smirks. "I'm about to rock you, like a hurricane." And then boom, he hurls a rock into the king and kills him. Let's put a pin in that brick joke for later.

The long flashback scene doesn't play any music, which feels like a weird editing misstep after a series of home runs. They leave the planet as heroes, and Nappa sets Vegeta up for another predictable bit of mood whiplash, where Vegeta obliterates the entire planet. This is a huge escalation in power scale compared to everything else we have seen thus far. But then, this is Dragon Ball Z. We've already reached “destroying planets” at only the fifth episode, and everyone knows that it only goes well past 11 on the dial from here on out.

Granted, there is controversy in the official version about whether or not this would’ve been possible for Saiyan Saga Vegeta, considering Arlia is not canon, but I will not be considering that simply because DBZA contains no filler. Everything shown in the flagship series (not counting movies, DBZA Kai, or other shorts) is presented as being canon to DBZA. Also, Vegeta and Nappa are shown standing outside of their pods... in the vacuum of space. Series veterans will understand the massive can of worms this opens. I'm looking at you, Battle of Gods.

Once everyone, including the people that they JUST SAVED from a tyrannical king, have been reduced to space dust, Nappa closes off this scene nicely.

Now that we've discussed Arlia, let's focus on King Kai's role in the episode.

He explains to Goku that the planet has high gravity due to it's small size. Gregory from off-screen pipes up that this doesn't make any sense. I suppose "higher planet density" wasn't considered when writing the script - or perhaps it was, and they just decided that the easy answer wasn't the funniest one. Maybe “there’s an incredibly powerful pirate trapped in the core of the planet, which is why the gravity is so strong" was deemed better for a parody.

Honestly, I agree. Bojack works as an in-the-know reference, and is also fleshed out enough within the show that a newcomer would understand what's being discussed.

At the time of this review, the Bojack Abridged movie has not yet been released, but this is easily one of the longest brick jokes in all of DBZA, since Episode 5 was released in 2008 and it is my expectation that Bojack Abridged will be released within the year, leaving in its wake an 11 year old callback.

When King Kai asks Goku why he had been sought out, Goku explains that the Saiyans are coming to Earth and he requires training. Excellent fade-in and musical choice for Goku's uncharacteristically serious speech to King Kai.

Of course, it gets cut off at the peak swell with King Kai's indifferent "sure", leaving Goku gobsmacked.

In this series, King Kai's indifference and easy acceptance of Goku is attributed to the mind-numbing loneliness of only having a monkey and a grasshopper (cricket, sorry) to talk to for the last 500 years. Goku agrees, as he couldn't imagine anything more boring.

Major flash-forward to Namek. Just this scene being here at all is a major instance of a sequence break. But it is the introduction of another exceptionally interesting character in the series.

In terms of placement, this works as a long-term cutaway gag and reminiscent humor but not much else. We're still about half a season away from even considering Namek within the story, and the Saiyans haven't even arrived on Earth yet. The decision to slide this segment into the middle of this episode leaves some serious questions in my mind. But at face value, it's not that bad.

We're treated to a solid ten seconds of just staring at a massive fat green alien while birds chirp in the background. We hear a fish go "plonk!" in the water, and Lord Guru calls for someone named Nail, who looks a lot like Piccolo, to approach him.

"I saw a fish. That was all, you can go back outside now." 

Definitely reinforces the point of boring. And while Nail is lamenting how boring his job is, Lord Guru tells him that he saw a bird and then promptly instructs him to "kick its ass."

But we’re not Nail, are we? We’re the viewer, and for some reason in the human mind, segments of extremely boring content usually pique our interest even more, because we have it drilled into our psyche that something is going to happen to break the tension sooner or later. That notion, the idea of slowly leaning closer to the monitor during the ten long seconds of a single still image, both conveys the boring tone of Namek, but also leaves the reader waiting in anticipation long enough for these dull scenes to just fade from their perspective and only latch onto the climatic moment. In this case, Guru commanding his apparent servant/bodyguard to assault a fish.

Not to overstate the obvious, but if it’s not the viewer’s own sense of tension and curiosity, it’s the pure absurdism and characterization of Guru that carries this scene. Disregarding source material, the design of Guru is meant to make him look old, wise and compassionate. Making him a lazy, annoying, verbally violent fatass is a near-infinite cash cow of writing material. It’s very difficult for me to judge this scene unbiased, knowing what comes next, but I imagine this would be a tryhard non-sequitur at worst, or promising potential for the future at best, with regards to this scene on its own, within the context of this episode and nothing more.

This episode also saw the genesis of perhaps not the first, but one of the most popular jokes in all of DBZA: Piccolo just jobbing the shit out of Gohan. DODGE! The scenes chosen and the delivery are outstanding compliments to this cheesy, simplistic joke. At this point I feel it's important to address that my editorial reflections or descriptions of these skits are relative to the context of these episodes. Even with the best of what this episode has to offer, we're still in peak 2008 internet humor era. The use of the word "outstanding" here will not carry a similar significance should I use it to describe a later episode.

Also the most random cutaway in all of DBZA, full-stop, is the brief look into the Hall of Justice, as Superman, Batman and Aquaman debate how they will stop the approaching Saiyans. This is humorous only in its absurdity, but less-endearingly than Guru was. Even if this scene makes zero sense, and relies upon an almost lower form of comedy than slapstick, Aquaman's voice is still just Krillin's voice. At least Superman and Batman sound different than the main cast. I'm really tempted to dislike this more, but the lackadaisical attitude and context of the whole scene definitely draws your eye more than a lot of the sensible but base-line plot progression of the story. I don't know if it belongs. To me, this scene just screams out that TFS is flinging spaghetti wildly at the wall, any and everything that might be funny, and while some of it sticks for one reason or another, (Jadoshin as Solid Snake, Antics on Arlia, even Guru's abrupt cameo) some of it flops. If anything, this show builds upon the corpses of its failures, and learns what works and what doesn't work surprisingly quickly.

Conclusion

Bizarre, but I liked it. Nothing in this episode that's bad is memorable. I might criticize the Namek cutaway for being out of place, but after letting this review sit for a few days, I just remember Goku saying "Man, nothing could be more boring than that!" and the immediate cut to Namek, and Nail pleading for the love of his sanity for something to happen. I might criticize the Justice League cutaway for being wildly out of the place, but I just remember "WHAAAAAALES!"

The meat of the episode was also decent, as it establishes Goku training under King Kai, and Piccolo's continued training of Gohan, the origin of DODGE! and the realization that Gohan can transform into an Ozaru. And you can nod your head and say that these may be necessary to the story all day, but they're also presented with... let's call it a clumsy grace. It's not bad, but it's miles away from official dub quality. This is in essence what the benchmark or gold standard was for early abridging back in 2008. The quality that TFS will continue to evolve the series into simply defies all logic or explanation, and in comparison makes these episodes look downright crude. 

But let's face it, if Episode 1 began with a person lying on the ground and shot in both kneecaps, Episode 5 shows that same person at least hobbling down the street to the hospital. 

It might not look pretty on the whole, and some of the dialogue might be clunky, but it seems like a lot of the flaws in this episode are simply caused by being products of their time.

Whether we're looking at Namek or The Hall of Justice, even the most outlandish oddities of this episode have still made me laugh. That's really the end of it.

Score: 75

Passing Thoughts

"I hope something exciting happens around here soon. I don't care what it is." - Ominous!

"You're surrounded by my thirteen elite *KABOOM* ...dead guards."

"SUMMON THE RANCOR!"

[fanfictionlive]

My hero academia reaction

Hey I got good ideas for reaction fanfic. Number 1 based on jojo battle tendency. ceaser vs wamuu deku as ceaser and wamuu either himself or stain. And Bakugo as Joseph. Make sure to include Joseph talk about him being impulsive and self centered . this one is to show the best of both izuku and bakugo. Number 2. Based on sao abridge season finale izuku as kayaba vs shigaraki as kirito. And MAYBE ochako as asuna I couldn't think of someone better. I thought of this becose izuku as all might student and shigaraki student of all for one. I thought it would be fun to see shigaraki as the hero?. Number 3 based on john wick baba yaga. Frankly I think this is the only one I'm okay with there being quirks. and izuku is of course quirkless. And his wife either pixy Bob or mina. Number. 4 Izuku as iron man or batman love them to see a superhero with no super powers. Number 5 based on kingdom hearts based on my friends are my power and sora vs riku I can see ether bakugo or todoroke as riku. Number 6 based on a combineshen of reguler dragon ball z and dbza gohan vs cell cell as himself and vegeta as endeavor and trunks as todoroki aizawa as Piccolo . Goku as all might. Fyi don't make him stupid. Number 7 this one is for a brake for the audience. Based on game grumps yoda jokes izuku as arin and Danny ether as iida or shigaraki. And maby a sequel is the game grumps battle kid animeted skit. number. 8 izuku as itachi and koda as sasuke. Number 9 one piece zoro best moments aka zoro vs milhawk zoro vs mister one zoro vs kaku zoro vs ryuma zoro vs pika zoro takes luffy pain frankly I don't know who to be luffy

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[tigerlover16-uk]

Well, just read up to the end of the Champa saga in the Dragon Ball Super manga...

I’ll give it this much credit. The artwork is nice and expressive, it was cool to see an actual fight between Beerus and Champa in the past, Majin Buu simply failing the entry test instead of falling asleep works a bit better than the anime, especially in hindsight with the universe survival arc since it means Buu’s sleeping won’t be quite as overplayed here, Goku’s fight with Botamo was better than in the anime and even his fight with Frost was a bit better in places, at least in it’s choreography...

but literally EVERYTHING ELSE was a downgrade from the anime.

Remember how the anime gave Piccolo a short but pretty good fight with Frost that showed off his wide range of techniques and expert battle strategy, and how Piccolo would have won if Frost hadn’t cheated... well here, they just exchange a couple of punches and whatever before Frost used his poison on him, it lasts 3 or 4 pages at most with nothing particularly impressive happening and there’s no implication that Frost even NEEDED to use the needle to beat Piccolo.

And you know why? Well, remember how the anime set up Frost as this great hero celebrated throughout universe 6 as it’s greatest hero who lead an army to defend the universe from evil forces and end wars, but then it turned out that he was actually leading space pirates in conquering and selling planets he pretended to save for high profits, all the while making himself look like a hero to the rest of the universe? And how that made him kinda just like Frieza, but smarter and gave him enough unique qualities to still be his own character even if he was a bit of a knockoff?

Well screw that actually interesting idea that had potential to be further expanded upon. Because in the manga, he’s just some rando who happens to just be a dirty cheater, and just wanted to get the tournament over with quickly because he didn’t want to fight in it since he wasn’t being paid. And that’s it.

And the whole thing makes Piccolo’s shafting far more egregious and pointless than in the anime, and Vegeta’s beating him a LOT less satisfying or cool. It all just made Frost feel pointless and flat, whereas the anime at least gave him some character and managed to successfully leave the audience equally disappointed and disgusted with Frost as the characters were. We don’t even get that cool bit of foreshadowing with Hit taking Frost out afterwards.

Magetta and Cabba both get much weaker showings too in their fights, both barely having time to show their stuff with Cabba not even getting to land any good hits on Vegeta after ascending to super saiyan.

They also completely alter the rules for super saiyan God and super saiyan blue, to the detriment of the story. here the super saiyan God form is used again for Goku’s fight with Hit, despite that the form was supposed to be absorbed into Goku’s body after use with SSB effectively being it’s replacement, making it basically bargain sale SS4 instead of it’s own thing. And instead of being about perfect ki control and peace of mind, here super saiyan blue is taken in the exact opposite direction and given an even WORSE power drain than super saiyan 3 where using it more than once means that after the first usage, the user loses 90% of the strength they had when they first used the form that day.

Which Toyotaro tried to use to make Vegeta losing to Hit seem less anti-climactic for Vegeta as if Toyotaro felt he needed to protect Vegeta’s image by making it look like he only lost because he was exhausted. But all it actually does is make Vegeta look like a big idiot for using SSB against Cabba earlier, and along with some other stuff makes Hit himself seem a lot less cool and impressive than he was in the anime.

Speaking of which, you know what an awesome character Hit was in the anime, how great his interactions with Goku were, how he really pushed Goku to the edge, and how AMAZING the moment Goku went Kaio-ken as a super saiyan blue was? Remember how everyone lost their minds over that and how it made the Goku vs Hit fight into one of the most beloved moments in all of Super, if not one of the best fights in the franchise?

Well, screw that apparently, there’s no kaio-ken here. Like I said, Goku just uses Super saiyan god to initially gain the upper hand on Hit, then instead of Hit having the ability to rapidly improve his skills and strength as he’s fighting Goku like he has a fast acting zenkai boost ability, it turns out he was just holding back and Goku has to use Super Saiyan Blue to beat him. It’s... not satisfying at all. And to top it all off, instead of Goku giving up because he realized that he and Hit were basically just being used as pawns for Beerus and Champa’s childish feud and him basically doing so to give Beerus a figurative screw you and teach him a lesson, while still believing Monaka can win for universe 7, in the manga... he just quits because... he feels like it I guess? Hit’s pretending to lose to Monaka makes a lot less sense as a result.

Honest the entire fight felt really anti-climactic and a lot less exciting compared to the anime. And all of the good character building moments and interactions Hit gets throughout the saga in the anime and particularly during this fight are missing, so Hit comes off a lot less flat and interesting whereas even though he wasn’t exactly super fleshed out, he still felt like a rounded character in the anime that you wanted to know more about and put on an amazing show. Here... he’s just kinda meh. And that stinks, because Hit is honestly one of my favourite characters in the franchise so this just left me feeling insulted for him.

Oh, and we also rush through the ending and especially super shenron’s summoning in a montage that takes away most of the spectacle of his summoning from the anime, and the ending with Beerus wishing Universe 6′s earth back for Champa feels less touching because we didn’t get quite as many moments with Champa here compared to the anime or as much interaction, so the build up to the ending was overall weaker.

Honestly, so far this manga feels like a bust. It starts off as basically an abridged version of the Battle of Gods movie (Except not a funny parody like DBZA, just an abridged version of the story that cuts out a lot of the best parts, all of the good character moments that didn’t involve Goku, Beerus and Whis and to a lesser extent Vegeta, and the moments it does show in full usually aren’t handled as well as in the Super anime or in the movie), it skips the Resurrection F arc entirely despite it still happening in this continuity, and the Champa saga just feels... lacking. A lot of the coolest and funniest moments are missing, and a lot of the cool moments replaced with stuff that’s just far less impressive or boring. Character interaction like Vegeta and Cabba aren’t handled as well, all of the supporting cast get virtually no good moments to themselves where even in the anime they all had at least a few good character moments to themselves, if not really being crucial to the story or fights.

Goku comes off as more of a jerk in places, especially when he seems to outright ridicule Gohan for choosing to be a scholar instead of a fighter and being angry he didn’t come to watch the tournament, whereas in the anime he was disappointed Gohan couldn’t take part because of a press conference, but understanding and happy to shrug it off since he knew Gohan’s academic ambitions were also important and still expressing pride and acceptance in Gohan. So, basically the manga removed a good moment that showed off Goku’s maturity and him being a loving and supportive parent... to replace it with him being a smart mouthed jerk annoyed with his son over matters out of his control. Charming. Are we sure it’s the anime that makes Goku into a selfish parody of himself, people?

Honestly, this manga so far feels pretty weak. There’s very little here that improves on the anime and nothing that improves of the Battle of Gods movie, and it just feels like a watered down experience with some worse writing choices so far, and it ends up underselling all of the universe 6 characters except Botamo oddly enough, and all of the supporting cast. Everything feels less fleshed out, more rushed and just not that satisfying or entertaining, with it’s only saving grace really being the artwork. Not to mention it cuts out any breather episodes, so I know it’s not going to include the baby pan story from episode 43 or anything like that.

I’m still going to read the Future Trunks arc of the manga, but only out of morbid curiosity and because I want to be informed about everything that’s going on in regards to Dragon Ball Super. But honestly so far, I’m starting to really scratch my head and wonder why the heck so many people keep trying to insist to me that the Super manga is so great and the anime is trash by comparison. because honestly, it feels like quite the opposite for me so far. But hey, that’s just me, I can’t blame people for enjoying it, that’s perfectly fine and I encourage people to have fun with things. But I’m getting really annoyed at how people bash the anime for certain things and blame them all on Toei, when this version of the story makes me feel like Toei are the ones actually putting in the effort to make the story as good as they can.

[kai-keda]

I used to like tfs for a while still being a long-time female fan of dbz since it was on toonami. I still watch them even now and then but I had a friend who supposedly watched it long ago and watched tfs and she was trying to correct me about the characters true personalities like Goku for example saying he's horrible. Long story short I ended the friendship. Honestly even though I'm primarily a vegebul shipper the hate gochi and goku and the son fam get is RIDICULOUS like of COURSE goku cares!

Yeah and while things like the Anime America video shouldn't be spreading misinformation (I've already explained why no true Dragon Ball fan should take anything they say about the series seriously) it's more the product of misinformation and the hateful attitudes of the fanbase than the cause of it.They seem to be going off of memory, fandom wide interpretation and DBZA to make their arguments on anything DB related.It's things like that that are why I say "this fandom is really toxic against anyone who likes Goku and GoChi." It's the idea that pretty much any casual fan who looks at the fandom for no more that five minutes will come to the conclusion that Goku is Literally the Worst(tm) and Vegeta is the true hero and savior of the series despite being a villain/antagonist turned anti-hero/supporting character. (Not knocking Vegeta, just stating a fact that a lot of people seem to forget. He's awesome and there's a lot of reasons to love him like how his redemption/character arc is on rival with Zuko's in A:TLA)I've discussed why Wiki-fans tick me off (my name for the fans who don't actually watch/read the product itself but rather get their information from the Internet talking about the series while acting like they know more than everyone else about it (that one friend in MS/HS who spoiled a fact in One Piece for me and got legit mad at me for arguing it with her because I HADN'T GOTTEN TO THAT TWIST/REVEAL YET)) before so I'll just say that, yeah, they're wiki fans and the kind of people who will argue and fight you without having full knowledge of what they're discussing without acknowledging that their knowledge is limited are really obnoxious.