#DBO asks

[sstrangeart]

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hello there my name is Four Amber Droplets I’m a different group I would just like to ask do you have any experience in odd slugcats? I’ve been made aware by my overseers that a slugcat that contains void fluid is approaching my can.

doesn't look like he can help, sorry about that!

[the-art-ghost]

I HAVE A QUESTION

How does Zalgo brush all them teeths? A ton of toothbrushes, one big brush, or power washer?

𝔑𝔬𝔱 𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔶 𝔭𝔢𝔬𝔭𝔩𝔢 𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔥𝔬𝔴 ℑ 𝔨𝔢𝔢𝔭 𝔪𝔶 𝔱𝔢𝔢𝔱𝔥 𝔫𝔦𝔠𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔯𝔢𝔡 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔴𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡 𝔩𝔬𝔳𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔰𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱

𝔐𝔦𝔰𝔴𝔞𝔨 𝔦𝔰 𝔞𝔫 𝔬𝔩𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔱𝔬 𝔟𝔯𝔲𝔰𝔥 𝔱𝔢𝔢𝔱𝔥 ℑ 𝔭𝔦𝔠𝔨𝔢𝔡 𝔲𝔭 𝔞𝔤𝔢𝔰 𝔞𝔤𝔬, ℑ 𝔩𝔦𝔨𝔢 𝔦𝔱 𝔟𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔱𝔯𝔞𝔡𝔦𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔞𝔩 𝔱𝔬𝔬𝔱𝔥𝔭𝔞𝔰𝔱𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔟𝔯𝔲𝔰𝔥

𝔄 𝔭𝔬𝔴𝔢𝔯 𝔴𝔞𝔰𝔥 𝔴𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡𝔫’𝔱 𝔟𝔢 𝔞 𝔟𝔞𝔡 𝔦𝔡𝔢𝔞 𝔢𝔦𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔯…

𝔚𝔞𝔯𝔪 𝔯𝔢𝔤𝔞𝔯𝔡𝔰, ℨ𝔞𝔩𝔤𝔬

[peridoxikal-redux]

Thoughts on the recent revamp mod for xenoverse 2?

HI IM SORRY THIS IS LATE MY ASKBOX HAS BEEN GLITCHED AND STILL KIND OF IS OTL

It looks fun! I watched one of my friends play it the other night and we had a blast. I might have screeched a little when Robel and Chamel popped up in one of the PQs lol.

Also actually making the totally-not-Beat avatar from Ultimate Tenkaichi his own guy was cool. And the main dafult avatar from DBO!

I love it when mods sort of do a bit of a love letter to a game's origins like that.

[helpingfriendlybook]

had my 90 day review at work. i am so obviously deeply distressed by a core aspect of the job (calling renters who owe money) that the DBO straight up asked if this is the right fit for me and said they would help me find a new job (while i’m still working - i was not fired). my mom is freaking out about it but i feel a seed of relief in my gut tbh.

[nixierain]

Alright poll time I will hopefully remember and find

Woah I havent showed you much of these, but a recap anyway about the and just an intro ig under the cut if you wanna learn more, feel free to ask questions too!!

DoveTech/LividMetals: Rival companies taking place in California, both majoring in robotics and experimentation. Lots of lore. Makn inspirations: Qualia Automata (Team 6x111) and FNAF. Yall should know about the Fritz family by now, I also got an rp blog for this at @dovetechandlividmetals

Bromind Deities: Bromind is one of my main worlds (2nd newest world as well), the deities were created by the Goddess light and split into two sections; The Astral deities and the Terestrial Deities. The Astrals being; Neptune, Void and Nebula and the Terestrials being; Myca and Fawn (theyre gay). They control over different things. And theres a hierarchy ofc!

Bromind False deities: This plot focuses on Siri (the False deity of the stars) and when she was rejected by Light for Nebula. Then Siri gets vengeful and with Voids help she makes a new hierarchy

Fumbling: Follows Liam and Mason's journey through Harkton Boarding highschool, and being gay they find friends with; Dereck (Drake), Dixie, River, Reef, Kayla and Addicus. Though since middle school our two mc's have been bullied by Mark and his friends. Though some things happen and everything goes askew, throwing thier whole life off balance. This is my gay story, and L and M were my first Gay characters (shocking aint it) I made them in 7th grade

Deadbeat Outlaws (DBO): This story follows two trouble makers, Zach and Craz. The lore has changed a LOT since when I first made it, though I kept the name. Its not fully completed and I don't know how much I want to change so I dont have much to put here

Hellena stuff: this has a LOT of lore and came even before Dragonopolis, like I grew up with this world cause its my lego world that got shaped into this. So the story would be one of many that are with the three heros, Nate, Flower and Nightshade. Nate and Flower have also been tied to DoveTech. But this would focus on their hecktic life of being hero's and going insane to the point where one goes evil and takes over, forcing the other two to have to save the lives, and a lot more!

11:11: Follows the story of a 14 year old girl with ADHD who wishes to not be bored one morning while she eats breakfast, this wish comes true and she gets transported to Trifullium and meets Fenn, the two have to work together to get Mayabelle (the girl) home, eventually falling in love in the process.

Everdollskin: my ragdoll world thing! And my most recent world I've built. Unsure of what part you want me to focus on, but itd probably be either Fargo and Evendor's story and Evan and Bens! Full lf twists and turns and of course Ragdolls and horrors, tears and all!

Apollo: Sooooo, Apollo is one of my newest Oc's, hes got a bunch of lore already though. So he's one of my Yandere's. I know he looks gay (people are arguing with me when I say hes "straight" sl we made a compramise and said he only likes one oerson and that happens to be a girl, and also ig hes bi) But he meets Mae and falls totally head over heels for her, but she... HATES him. Now join him in stalking his new found obsession and killing off anyone she dates!

[tellywoodtrash]

Just read the Omkara and Gauri ask about the bunty babli track, and I just wanted to say, I find it so weird and kind of sad that the writers made Omkara super toxic just for the DBO spinoff show. Like, they actually were on the mark when they decided that Omkara should be very jaded and have trust issues after being betrayed by Riddhima, Ishana, and his dad throughout his whole life. He would obviously have trust issues that would make him hesitant to get close to Gauri, but he still could +

+ help Gauri in the Kali Thakur situation and want to be with her because he likes her and is a fundementally good person who would want to help someone in danger. The toxicity was unnecessary, the writers had a perfectly normal plot progression right there that honestly could have made Rikara an even cuter, much more loving couple. Not to mention healthier.

This was the ideal plot that all of us wanted. A guarded and fragile Omkara, whose inherent kindness wouldn't be exploited this once; because while Gauri isn't above lies and trickery, she's ultimately his true ideal partner in terms of integrity and doing anything for the people they love; it would teach him that everything isn't black or white. A proper journey, just like Shivaay got. Instead we got weirdo face swapping and freezer dabbas and kaatil Bua Maa. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[ravingraeven]

Personal rant but

I just. remember someone i used to consider a friend who took me withdrawing away from interacting with them due to them doing something really fucked up and hurtful to me as an excuse to turn shitty- basically only ever talk to me to expound about themself/their characters/their interest. Never even ask how i was doing. Never ask any questions in return. Nada.

To the extreme that they stole anything i put together for MY OCS ranging from moo/dbo/ards (eh) to a/rt / des/igns (WHAT THE FUCK?) and turned them into their own o/cs as "design practice" and "well theyre being used for something else and we dont talk anyways."

I took way too long to cut them off and i still want to curl up into a ball and cry about it. I feel so lonely but being lonely is so much better than the BULLSHIT ive put up with from some people.

[sweetescapeartist]

What do you think of Krillin becoming the new Turtle Hermit like in Dragon Ball Online? I know in DBS Tien opened his own Crane School dojo like in Dragon Ball Online. So do you think they’ll also bring that into any future DB stories?

I love the idea! And it seems Toriyama is using some of his ideas from that game and incorporating it into DBS.

I personally think Marron might be the first "student" but, not become a fighter. Because Marron loves it when her parents fly her through the sky & she is able to visually keep up when her parents are sparring. She seems to have some skills already but she doesn't seem to be interested in fighting. I can see her doing some training just so she can fly around and to protect herself. She doesn't really need to be a fighter.

What I'd prefer and think could happen...

Instead of a New Turtle School, Krillin could train a special unit of police officers to protect citizens without using deadly force; teaching them how to fly, sense ki, ect.

There are police with similar uniforms as Krillin but not colors that are as vibrant & flashy. So, Krillin could be the captain or something & teaching them how to better protect citizens from dangerous threats.

[jwooyoung]

HE RLY LOOKS LIKE DBO

RIGHTTTT???!!?!?!!! esp the piercing one like I double take every single time that's just dbo 😭

[sstrangeart]

Ask Distressed by Obscenity, an iterator oc of mine! :)

(he/they)

Just shoot an ask with the emojis 🐜 and/or 🦂 followed by your question ^^

I'll try to answer them as fast as I can, but it might take me a while depending on when I get it/what the ask is/etc!

the only thing I ask is that you please not send any nsfw asks - if you do, I will just ignore you :)

[the-art-ghost]

All I have to say about the Zalgo human design

I can see why people spelt with this man (he has two daughters I think)

ℑ 𝔥𝔞𝔱𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔟𝔢 𝔰𝔬𝔪𝔢𝔬𝔫𝔢 𝔴𝔥𝔬 𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔠𝔱𝔰 𝔭𝔢𝔬𝔭𝔩𝔢 𝔬𝔳𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔳𝔦𝔞𝔩 𝔱𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔰…

𝔅𝔲𝔱 ℑ 𝔴𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡 𝔩𝔦𝔨𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔠𝔱 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔞𝔟𝔬𝔲𝔱 𝔪𝔶 𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔩𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔫, 𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔶 𝔞𝔯𝔢 𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔶 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔯 𝔱𝔬 𝔪𝔢 𝔰𝔬 ℑ’𝔡 𝔩𝔦𝔨𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔰𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱 𝔬𝔲𝔱 𝔩𝔬𝔲𝔡 𝔥𝔬𝔴 𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔶 ℑ 𝔱𝔯𝔲𝔩𝔶 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢

ℑ 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢 𝔰𝔦𝔵 𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔩𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔫, 𝔱𝔥𝔬𝔲𝔤𝔥…ℑ 𝔴𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡𝔫’𝔱 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔡 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔣𝔲𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔢…𝔬𝔥 𝔡𝔬𝔫’𝔱 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔡 𝔪𝔢 𝔯𝔞𝔪𝔟𝔩𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔱𝔬 𝔪𝔶𝔰𝔢𝔩𝔣

𝔚𝔞𝔯𝔪 𝔯𝔢𝔤𝔞𝔯𝔡𝔰, ℨ𝔞𝔩𝔤𝔬

[theempirekhh]

│▬͓᪼▭᪶̈▓⃞⃯!𝗶𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗱𝗯𝗼 ̖́-⋰⃝⇱᪵᪶⃜

╰#::𝙙𝙤𝙣’𝙩 𝙧𝙚𝙥𝙤𝙨𝙩 t⃞⃡⬚᪶𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝘰𝘳 𝙧𝙚𝙗𝙡𝙤𝙜 ]]

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[mugiwara-lucy]

how old is goku and veggie in dragon ball heroes or online whatever? i like that ending way better

Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball Online are two seperately different products.

In Dragon Ball Heroes, Xeno Goku and Vegeta…it’s not said how old they are but I’d chalk it up to their current ages in Super with Goku being 43 (While physically being around 39) while Vegeta is 48 (While phyiscally 53).

In Dragon Ball Online, it was said how they had they had their battle their final battle in Age 801 so then Goku would be 60 while Vegeta would be 74. 

[dragon-ball-meta]

How much weight should we put into objectively non-canon material with Toriyama's input? For instance, DBO (Dragon Ball Online) was once believed to be canon because Toriyama had considerable creative oversight into that game and it had no contradictions with the established lore of the original manga. While it was eventually disregarded as a canonical source, ideas from it (such as time travel being forbidden/illegal by the Gods) made its way into DBS. Same with Vomi/Android 21.

"Cont'd from my last post: I guess what I want to ask is, should we consider certain things (such as the characters and lore info) that Toriyama's personally worked on as canon, while disregarding the body of the work they came from? Sorry if I'm not making much sense." In a word? None. In more words? None, and we even need to contextualize interview and Q&A answers to a POINT. Toriyama has often helped contribute to DB projects that aren't part of his main series and has even written one himself in the form of Neko Majin Z. So not everything he writes pertaining to Dragon Ball is necessarily binding or "part" of DB proper. But he's given responses in some interviews and some Q&A sessions that need to be taken with a grain of salt at least to a point because... Toriyama is a writer who tends to write by the seat of his pants, and likes a degree of freedom as a result. So while he may have said in an interview in, say, 1998 that something in the series works a certain way, he may later change his mind and decide he wants it to work another way later. He's also sometimes tried to come up with answers on the spot for things he didn't put too much thought into when writing and forgotten that later. At the end of the day though, he's only really bound by what he's written down in his actual series. Interview questions are not inherently binding or canonical; they can illuminate or clarify or enhance the written work, but they're not set in stone.

Further, there actually WAS a period between the early 2000s and about 2013 where Toriyama would be interviewed and could give some rather... odd answers to questions, getting basic things about characters and story events in his series wrong. This is because of the way Toriyama writes; when he's done with a project, as time goes on he tends to MAKE himself forget about that in order to focus more on the works ahead of him now. He feels it allows later works to be more unique and less derivative of his previous ones. As such, he did forget things, including confusing Super Saiyan 2 and 3 at one point, or forgetting that he'd given 18 blonde hair and not white. People at Shueisha and Toei got him up to speed again fairly quickly, but that's something to keep in mind when reading or citing interviews in that time period. Hope that's helpful.

[tellywoodtrash]

Hi TT, got a good old ishqbaaz ask for ya. Wrt bunty bubli track, don't you think it was hypocritical of omkara to question gauri's character and morals? Such double standards for measuring her up, while agreeing that there's every possibility that he might have fathered a kid out of wedlock? Gauri was judged even when she wasn't remotely related to him, but thought it was quite OK for him to have a kid with his ex live in partner? Shoddy writing, innit?

Oh definitely poorwriting. Coz the Baby Bunty track was all fun and games and even then, both Anika and Gauri were very accepting of the baby, acknowledging that this child very much may be their husband's biological kid from a premarital relationship. We even have a repeat of this track with that Attar Pattar bacha, where it's played off as comedy again. But the moment the fidelity in question is of the FL (Anika during the Vikram track, Gauri's wholeass DBO track + English lessons, Bhavya marrying someone else) the men start stirring shit and putting aspersions on their characters. Literally fuck off with this misogynist bs.

[jalebi-likes]

Issues With 4Lions Heroes

from @rae-blogging:

AJ! Here I am, back to annoy you yet again (also planning on starting a blog just to rant about Indian serials because I do that way too often on my main blog, what do you think?) so I'm back to watching Ishqbaaz (idk if you can answer this here because it's unrelated to IPK) but I want to know your take on Omkara character and the absolute mess it became in DBO, like Omkara was my favourite 4Lions male character probably (I have not seen Qubool Hai past the first season so idk anything about Aahil) but why did they make him into a complete douche in DBO to the point where he was okay with practically handing Gauri over to be assaulted? And the fact that they never really talked about all her trauma in Ishqbaaz? Do you think they were conscious decisions on the part of the makers? Also do you have a favourite timeline from the show?

P.S. Sorry the ask got long and I probably spoke more than I asked

Dearest Rae,

Starting your own blog is always a great idea! I started Jalebi Likes with that motto - to discuss everything non IPKKND. Lol, so I posted your ask here to talk about Omkara from Ishqbaaz.

(that, my dear, is probably Omkara's own reaction at what he became to begin his 'angsty' love story).

It was unfortunate that they made him Shivaay 2.0 when in reality out of the three brothers it was Omkara who kept me hooked in Ishqbaaz. There was something very real about him. His character was, by far, the most interesting and intriguing one. We don't understand the level of his traumas given he appears 'sorted'. Has suicidal/addiction issues perhaps given his own screwed up parents and is really relatable in the form of he's wise, he's mature, he's aware that his family is screwed up but he's hanging in there. It's a daily effort for him to not be what his parents are and he's trying to be a better human being.

But one day, just one day given his untreated mental health he might even end up dead.

Ugh my heart for this man. Especially when in the initial episodes when Shivaay is being whiny about his family and like how he is a damaged human being in lieu of them, Omkara quietly snaps and reminds him that he too has a terrible family YET he's NOT using that as a crutch for anything unethical.

Them destroying this - THIS - man for whatever the hell DBO was is one of the many sins committed by 4Lions. And what's sad is Gauri-Omkara has the potential for an angsty love story even if they kept Om as what he was initially planned.

But no - they reduced him to a hair flicking abusive misogynist and God knows what (I heard he returns Gauri to her abuser, wtf) so as to they can have 'tashanbaazi'.

And the biggest problem with all of this is Omkara was never written as an anti-hero.

The only anti-hero 4Lions ever wrote well was Arnav, and he too had his own share of problems.

At this phase of 4Lions, they really thought abusive men ARE everything. This is a show where Shivaay-Annika are touted as 'the' couple where Shivaay has sexually harassed/threatened Annika MULTIPLE times.

And the sketch for that is given to characters as 'romance'. I remember Nakuul saying that the first 'romantic' scene Annika-Shivaay have is one in the pool. I only like Shivika as an established couple, platonic banters, or their few angsty bits. Scenes like below are a torture for me:

By this you can understand how the scene was briefed by the producer/director to the actors - they thought Shivaay harassing Annika was romantic?! Like thank the heavens they never thought Arnav tearing Khushi's blouse was romantic! In fact from Sanaya-Barun's interviews you can understand it wasn't explained as a 'romantic' moment.

But the fact is in IB the producers, directors and writers were at an all time high and off about what's romance (sometimes they still are? with Aryan they're very right actually for a change).

They couldn't think of romance beyond what they laid with Shivaay-Annika. And hence they morphed Omkara into being this abusive asshole and I have no idea what.

To be the devil's advocate though,

Gauri and Omkara have really good angst and redemption once they get their heads straight. And this angst was really worth it.

But yes, how could the makers talk about trauma when they literally use 'traumatizing' women as a way to show angst? They really went into this hole of a man pushing a woman to the most absolute worst situation possible and then showing him as a 'hero' for saving her.

Which is why my favorite part of IPK and why I even watched it is when Arnav saves her from the guesthouse - nobody is remotely impressed by it. He's not given a hero's glow up and everyone is like "you put her there, there's nothing heroic about saving her from a situation you put her in."

I had hoped the same for Ishqbaaz but the issue with the show - as you'll see - is that they spend an 'n' number of episodes showing the man causing torture/troubles for the woman, and then just one episode or two 'atoning' for it or even not traditionally atoning for it at all cause 'the character isn't one to say sorry'.

The only saving grace with Omkara and Gauri is that she does not forgive him easily and she has stellar moments in calling him out for his actions.

I won't be able to exactly say what timelines are the best for I haven't seen IB in full (and imagine I have so much to say, lol) so I will take the help of IB resident expert @tellywoodtrash (please address when is the best timeline of IB)

Also, yeah having these toxic relationships and toxic men in general is very typical of 4Lions and definitely a very conscious decision. You see their next show - IPK3 - and they really were so confused in how to deal with a villain for a romance hero and they ended up in a scene where Advay threatens Chandni of rape on their wedding night (which is 'ek raat ki dulhan') and all of that.

(The channel actually put a disclaimer when Advay was threatening her - it was that bad)

So yes if it was just one scene where the male lead is being torturous then we could say it was on oversight or they didn't realise how things would look ultimately and etc.

But if it keeps happening, the identical patterns all over for years then I can safely say that this is unfortunately a very conscious decision.

And why would they stop? Ishqbaaz ran for 750 episodes! People still lap up anything that production house produces. So... unfortunately that's the thing. Whatever they create is almost always a success.

And I do remember one of my television friends saying that yeah, for this production house, unfortunately misogynistic behaviors are paired with a perfectly good modern women for those fundamental thought differences stand out for 'tashan' when in reality it should be far removed from that.

Even see Haider - it was a web series with complete creative control and yet they created a man who literally ran away from his fiancee, ghosted her for six months and only returned to her when someone else told him that Meera and his best friend weren't involved.

The only thing is, she gets the base of such really good complex characters, with amazing casting and chemistry, and phenomenal production with serious good rom-com writing that 4Lions shows are never completely trash. They're the only escape from the saas-bahu nightmare TV otherwise provides.

There's always something to enjoy.

There's always something that gives you feelz

To share with you - there's something I found even about IPK3 charming. The idea of this rakish villain all set to seduce the heroine to get his goal (while getting attracted to her in reality) and the heroine who has gone through so much is actually enjoying the ability to feel desire for once and obviously not choose to marry him because he's a pretty face with sketchy thoughts.

(I love how the heroine is like, damn, loving my hormones but also shut up cause I knew you're not one to be trusted - but hey l don't mind the feelz). Dark comedy excellence if it went that way!

And I wish they'd work on their strengths! Imlie and Aryan seem to be their healthiest pair as of now (which they very nearly f'd up with forced wedding). Except the heroine isn't quite rootable as other heroines so that's the only reason why it isn't the best pair.

Lol sorry this was very less about Omkara and more about 4Lions shows cause everything that went wrong with Om is very much in line with how 4Lions writes male leads in the first place.

So it was obvious they'd screw him up once they started writing Om from a 'male lead' perspective.

Best and lots of love,

S