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I really, really hate the "Female V is canon" vs "Male V is canon" debate that been popping here and here in the tags those past weeks
Cyberpunk 2077 is a Role Playing Game, there is no "canon" protagonist, that's the whole point. We all have a different playstyles, different stories and headcanons, our custom V is The Canon V of Our Own playthroughs!
After Phantom Liberty dropped, I've seen a lot of players, on Tumblr or Twitter, voicing their concerne and disappointment in how much more Female V focused the official promo, videos and even in-game credits became
I was one of them too, expressing my feelings multiple times, sometimes awkwardly, frustrated that Male V players were once again brushed to the side, because that's how it feels like, right?
Well, it might feels like it, but this isn't the case AT ALL, far from it. This is only what I would call a "Fandom Phenomenon" and I want to talk more about it a bit
I had a great conversation with a friend of mine who works in the game industry and it opened my eyes on the matter, and I've since been really interested in seeing RPGs statistics!
Because it's really, really important to make the difference between the Casual Player Base (majority of players) and the Fans / Fandom Base (minority of players)
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I always been lurking in fandoms here on Tumblr, since Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and now with Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3
First I want to drop some stats- might be completly wrong, but I'm only sharing my point of view here, in an attempt to explain why some people are frustrated with Female V being the focus (and why we shouldn't be!)
I think it's not wrong to say that fandoms are mostly occupied by women and fem-identifying individuals; fandoms are a safe place for players and fans to share their passions. Women are STILL HEAVILY harassed and hated in the gaming industry as a whole, it doesn't take a lot of digging to catch a vile comment on Twitter or on Twitch for example, you cannot go far without seeing someone either attacking or sexualizing them
This is a huge problem in the industry still, every games that release with a female protagonist get trashed- just look at the bullshit surrounding GTA 6 just because players will be able to play as a woman as an option
Fandoms are also safe for non-gender conforming people, non-binaries, trans people and queer men, but I think fem individuals and women are a clear majority, at least on Tumblr (only talking about genders identity here and not about being queer or not, not talking about sexualities or attraction) (not an official stat at all and only my point of view and experience from being on Tumblr since ~2012)
Now let's talk about Cyberpunk 2077- because this is my main fandom since 2020, and what prompted me to write this post in the first place
CDPR didn't share any stats recently, but it's REALLY SAFE to assume the MAJORITY of players are playing a straight Male V romancing Panam, followed by a lesbian Female V romancing Judy, but the player pools for both options are still majoritarly cis hetero men (and they are still the focus for AAA studios to sell their games, this is sadly just how it is)
However on the fandom side, Fem V was always the focus; virtual photography, mods, ships, OCs... She was always more popular than Male V, getting more interactions and notes and why trends like "Male V monday" were created and why there is still a lack of male V focused mods (non-binaries and trans fem folks and characters are also sadly under-represented in all type of content and art)
So, being yourself as a non-fem player, playing as a Masc V, seeing CDPR officially make the switch from Male V to Female V, when the space you've been in for the past 3 years has been overwhelmingly Female V focused on all front, was a bit of a punch in the guts; like I said earlier, I was reaaally frustrated with this too!
And I'd say it's "normal"? or at least "ok" to feel this way, it makes sense considering how little attention Male V in general get in the fans community
BUT. BUT... It's REALLY important here to realize how we sound and how we look like when we voice our frustrations on the matter; we sound and look just like all the misogynistic people over on Twitter who screams about "woke games" everytime there is a female protagonist in their "non political games". We have to remember that fandoms are suuuch a small part of the game industry
Baldur's Gate 3 recently shared their stats and this interesting tweet got into my dash
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Astarion is nowhere to be seen in the official most romanced companions statistic, but I'm sure a lot of people will agree that he's probably the most popular one in the fandom side!
Another stat here from Mass Effect and really interesting info coming from David Gaider about how the hardcore fanbase aka fandom's choices were WILDLY different from the casual / main player pool
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Getting my head out of the fandom bubbles and seeing the bigger picture, how much under-represented women still are in official medias (not talking about fan content) and how insanly misoginistic the game industry still is, both on the player and devs sides, helped me handle my own frustration on the matter, accept and even celebrate Female V being the focus for the Phantom Liberty campaign
With all that said tho, we all should be able to vent about the lack of Male, Masc and Non-Binary content in the fandom side, while still being aware of the industry state, it CAN co-exist! It doesn't make anyone a bad or misogynist person!
We are all humans and can be awkward and make mistakes, especially when voicing frustration or talking while in a negative mood. Let's educate one another in good-faithed manners when we slip instead of jumping to conclusion and throw accusations
Not gonna lie I kind of lost my train of thoughts and not sure how to finish this post, but I hope this can enlight some people on why CDPR made this choice!
Repeating this as a finale note; this doesn't mean that Female V is the "main" V or "canon" V . It's simply her time to shine, and it's well deserved! The industry needs it
#cyberpunk 2077#phantom liberty#text#long post#like- LONG LONG post hgfhgf#hope my rambling makes sense#I legit been really interested in reading these statistics#hope CDPR will drop a similar sheet since the Ultimate edition is out :O#blah blah
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¡La Edición Definitiva Está a Punto de Impactar! Cyberpunk 2077 Llega con Todo Este Año
En solo dos semanas, CD PROJEKT RED desata el futuro oscuro de Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition en Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5 y PC. La cuenta regresiva ha comenzado. En tan solo dos semanas, el universo distópico de Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition se desplegará en las consolas de próxima generación y PC. CD PROJEKT RED nos trae una experiencia única que combina la saga completa de Cyberpunk…
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On defined vs customisable protagonists
Taking a break from DATV for some musings on this. This isn't really an essay, just a ramble, and I'm trying to steer clear of spoilers and heavy critical stuff.
I'll discuss the Dragon Age franchise, the Mass Effect franchise, and Baldur's Gate 3, Pillars of Eternity and Cyberpunk 2077.
Basically, I want to talk a little about ways in which a game's set up can help and hinder us in understanding our protagonist, the pros and cons of voiced protags, and what works in my eyes and what doesn't. I hope this also helps people to think about how they draw characters as well!
Firstly I want to say that people will have different reasons to prefer a more defined protagonist or a more open one. Ultimately it comes down to expectations from roleplay in my eyes. There's not a right or wrong answer in which is "better" but I think there are things that help us to engage with both types.
Establishing what we know (and being consistent with it)
Essential to both types in my eyes is establishing what is known. I'm going to use Commander Shepard as my first example here. We are told instantly that Shepard is an experienced officer, has an expertise in one area, and is being considered for a significant promotion. This allows us to infer that they get the job done, and that they have to have a degree of competency (whether or not they are by the book or more loose with the rules) and that they take their job seriously. The game then gives us some good flavour choices around family values, historical trauma, what they look like and what kind of expert they are, but make no mistake; this is a veteran soldier and you are on that road with them. It's a masterpiece in creating just enough freedom for ownership of a character while telling a very distinct story; if you are paying attention at the start, you know exactly what kind of person Shep has to have been to be considered for this role, which makes for a really clear path through.
Hawke in DA2, which was almost certainly designed to mirror the success of Shepard, follows a similar path. We know that Hawke is a refugee, and has a family, and fought in a recent battle. I would argue where Hawke is weaker to people who enjoy customisation is in setting them against their family; your Shepard could be a wunderkind or be eighty years old, have any number of emotional resonances in their personal life. Hawke is much more definite in age range, relationships and social status, which gives less freedom in making them truly your own. However, DA2 is highly consistent with Hawke. Perhaps you can only really customise the face and the attitude, but that attitude ripples through all of your interactions and creates a very distinct character that is easy to become attached to.
Dragon Age Origins does a very different thing by threading through the origins into inferences throughout the story. The knowns are that you will be the Warden and you will have to save the world. How you get there offers enormous choice. You can be a self-serving politician trying to weasel your way back into power, or you can be a devout Andrastrian on a path to martyrdom. A lot of this choice comes from the choice that is allowed with a non-voiced protagonist in sheer range of responses, a pathway that games like BG3 and Pillars of Eternity have continued.
It is essential you are clear with your player early in what is known about the character, both to help them establish them in a world and avoid disappointing their expectations. If your character is a rookie, say it! If they are an expert, make it clear. You can do this through action too - it doesn't have to all be written out.
To voice or not to voice
To me, personally, Shepard is one of the only truly successful voiced customisable protagonists. I have others I like very much (V in Cyberpunk 2077 and Hawke in DA2) but they are much more a slightly editable character on a defined narrative journey. The moment you put a voice on a character you are deciding tone, meaning and intention, and if your written choice doesn't accurately reflect your tone, it breaks immersion. Shepard walks a careful line that is aided by them being "on the job" for much of the time. Formality helps! It creates boundaries that we instinctively understand from our world.
If you have a voiced protagonist, then you have to either record a ton of lines allowing for anger, diplomacy, fun, inquisition and dismissal, and if you don't do that? You probably should have just set up a more defined character and told their story, and been clear in that expectation from your establishing moments.
Oh, Lore
One thing I really liked in BG3 is the way you could toggle on and off lore friendly options during character creation. It gave you the chance to say actually no, I don't care, or make sure you were creating within that world if you did. But regardless, if you have established lore, you have to carry it through. If you have a ton of backgrounds for characters, you have to make sure that's meaningful. A Grey Warden should be able to sense Darkspawn in their first encounter; it's a huge part of their deal. A Qunari character, if you have not specified that they are Tal-Vashoth and strictly from one background, should be able to reflect positively on their religion and cultural upbringing or see things through a non-Andrastrian lens. This is where it can be easier, even if it is disappointing, to set stronger boundaries in the creation of characters. For the most part, people are okay with limitations if it gives them something to work with. In Inquisition there were complaints about how much or little the backgrounds really added to the experience of being the Herald of Andraste, but they did choose backgrounds where there might be a rough knowledge of what was occuring at the conclave. It's okay to leave some things for people to fill in the gaps, but consistency is key.
Learning as the character learns
One clever way to establish connection but allow for discovery is for the characters to learn as we do. The Dark Urge in BG3 is an obvious example of this, but I'd also add in The Watcher in Pillars of Eternity too, and even V from CP77. Whatever they thought they are, they are something more, and it allows us to keep all of what we thought we knew about our characters and find out more along the way. It allows the game to take us down a path of the present, not the past (even though all of them ARE discovering events of the past!) by making it about what a person sees themself as, what they want to be, and what they have been. It sidesteps invalidation of ideas by creating narratives that are inherently biased as they are memory, allowing us to take or question the information we are given as we are given it. It trusts an audience and the player to invest their own opinions in the burgeoning narrative.
To do this, you need to make sure that the player has a good grasp, again, of what they do know. Good grounding is essential here. Think of the prologue of Pillars of Eternity, where we can establish a character's whole value system, or the pre-heist time with V which allows us to establish an enormous amount of relationship building and relationship to the world around them. Take that time, or it will fall apart.
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"The future is yours for the taking" Keanu Reeves 🖤 CYBERPUNK 2077 : Ultimate Edition
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Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition is out now on Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, and PC! 🥳
Grab your digital or physical copy and experience every story Night City has to offer ✨
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Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition
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So Mi's on Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition y'all the nation won
#on my knees shaking#deserved btw so true queen#songbird cyberpunk#cyberpunk 2077#cp2077#song so mi#songbird
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im gonna do this for 2077, tho if anyone else does one feel free to specify a fandom
1 - the character everyone gets wrong
hmmm a tie for me between alt and goro takemura. alt ranges from like a generic 'good woman' to the far more common evil manipulative bitch which like. id be more upset about but given we get NOTHINGGGGGGG in terms of content for her about her like i cant get TOOO mad... I GUESS. i just certainly think shas far more multifaceted or SHOULD be far more multifaceted than.... whatever the hell we got. like i think theres something interesting with her setup being like 'sharp netrunner who got hired to make something she probably very well knew was... designed to kill people and could and would be used to kill people, who had her 'curiosity take over' (some fact i heard somewhere) but then also chickened out n tried to stop it last minute, and ultimately was one of the first subjects it was used on killing her body and forever changing her entire being, being forced to survive in a cuthroat alien world of no human basis despite still 'thinking' like a human, being even more forever changed by that and like kinda playing with this idea that yeah it is unfortunate that like traumatic shit not of our choosing can like irreparably change us not for the better, and that we can have dignity/human-ness given back to us by being treated as such even if its alien to her now. course like then its... id prefer her story not being so weirdly tied to johnnys as like a girl he happened to be fucking because... she was there i guess. and thats our only like reference point for her. which is all to say she has the potential you know? and alot of people dont... get that imo. for a cyberpunk setting shes really interesting case of how/what gets treated as a human and what we do when we dont have that treatment/what we do when we're given it back smthn smthn at what point does a self end (with memories? with how we're perceived by others? etc etc) but of course we didnt get to deal with any of that cause the game refuses to even ask these questions about johnny in any real fun exploratory way. and shes only in the game cause johnny fucked her and accidentally killed her... so yeah. and then GORO god this is mostly just me beefing with all the fucking idiots horny for this guy and like he gets fics n posts made about him how he would 'abandon arasaka for youuuuuu 😚😚😚' no he wouldnt! you are literally peon trash to him! he was chosen by a god emperor and elevated in his mind! he straight up believes capitalistic order is fine cause who cares doesnt affect him anymore and its a necesarry thing! which i like! hes completely head over heels for his corporation like a true 'samurai' ie serving a lord above everything else, even 'warrior code' if that ever mattered to him. hes been deepthroating the boot for years n loves the taste! he has never once thought in his life that you were his equal, and he has never once thought of you as a friend he sees you as a true means to an end full stop! hes not some secretly good bushido samurai man! which like more people should run with! if he was given a choice between arasaka and your life he would choose arasaka 10 times over like, hes terrible and i like that, everyone else seems to not.
7 - what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?
fandom antics have really made me dislike this one complete side character like this person has like 2 lines but caused such fights in the fandom that im like i guess this is real to you. some gay guy and some woman fought over this side characters sexuality and one like made some weird kin claim to posting edits of him and like!!!! sometimes i have to remember people are unwell. it was fun for a time to watch ppl bitch about that for a while n see all the vague posting that or goro for reasons stated above
16 - you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)
lmao sex god johnny silverhand. and related to that johnnys hologram being able to physically interact with v outside their body... ppl took like some 'its there for the cinema' stuff where he shoves v and like grabs their hands and ran with it now we have hard light hologram sex everywhere... even tho ppl shouldve just gotten freaky with it and had them like possession mutually masturbating using vs body like them as a single...being, cause again vs body is the only real thing in this equation and id like abit more realism if im going into some silverv smut, but those are few and far between the hologram sex featuring hologram cum and hologram fingering it just bugs me casue like the draw for me at least is they cant interact like normal separate people, nor can they 'feel' as in feel things like normal separate people, nor ARE they normal separate people like their whole setup is weird, they are literally the same person!!!! and i hate it when people dont get weird n creative in those paramaters with what we're given. esp when johnny flat out says 'masturbation is the only way for us to have sex' too. plus i love the draw of not being able to love or live or interact like you want to... famously i love a 'love' that cant be for whatever reason, despite it being there real girl what were you doing at the devils sacrement self report but it did bug me
#the they can touch thing was the bane of my existence... had me shaking my laptop going-#HES JUST A VISUAL SIMULATION IN VS OPTICS HE CANT EVEN 'SEE' YOU FROM THAT HOLOGRAM HE IS LITERALLY YOUUUUUUU#literally GET WEIRD WITH ITTTT#but anyways#death-rebirth-senshi#this one took a bit lol#asks#ask#answered
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THE NIGHT CITY GLOSSARY
Seta; 27 years old; Wayward NJ Daughter; ♐️ ; Italian-American/Ukrainian-American; Been playing the game since 2020; Platonic SilverV Truther; #1 Johnny Silverhand Bullier; Temperance Ending Conspiracy Theorist; Reader of many books and haver of many opinions
This tagged post indexing this blog is honestly long overdue. Back in my day, people used to go onto blog pages and look at tag lists there. Oh well.
Below, you'll find a list of all the things I've tagged over this blog, including personal tags, character tags, linked works, and the like. I'm not putting this under a Read More-- frankly with the amount of time it took to create, you all get to stare at it. Seta's got LOTS of content, baby!
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Tag List:
SETA CORNER:
Aldi speaks - Main posting tag for anything I create: text, image, and beyond Aldi memes - Main posting tag for jokes, shitposts, memes, and image edits Aldi writes - Main posting tag for writing and WIP-posting
SETTING:
Cyberpunk 2077 - Main tag for the game itself Phantom Liberty* - Items tagged specifically for the DLC* *Spoilers for PL are no longer tagged, so please proceed at your own risk
OTHER V'S AND ORIGINAL CHARACTERS:
V (general) - Tag for any Vs that are base-game Male or Female V, and not specific to any user. Other People’s V’s- Tag for any individual, unique Vs posted to Tumblr. This is a massive catch-all tag for all OCs tagged with V-tags, so there's a lot in here; I don't organize my M! or F!, specific names, whatever. We are all equal under my tag, baby.
MY V:
Riley Aldana DOB: December 10th, 2052 || Birthplace: Flagstaff, AZ || Lifepath: Nomad || Height: 5'9 / 175 cm || Hair: Electric Blue || Eyes: Neon Green || Sidearm: Malorian Overture || Vehicle: Yaiba Kusanagi CT-3X || Status: Still alive, very tired
- A tag featuring photos, writings, drawings, memes, and info about my own V, whom I love and adore and would rub in everyone's faces if I had the time for it.
CHARACTER TAGS:
Johnny Silverhand
Jackie Welles
Judy Alvarez
River Ward
Panam Palmer
Kerry Eurodyne
Alt Cunningham
Rogue Amendiares
Hanako Arasaka
Evelyn Parker
Viktor Vector
Goro Takemura
Nibbles
Songbird
Solomon Reed
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Fics*: *All my Cyberpunk fics range from T-M ratings, are Gen, focus on platonic relationships, and don't feature sexually explicit content. Please read the tags on each fic for more information specific to that particular work.
Rain in the Desert - My work-in-progress longfic that I started planning before the game came out, started writing 5 hours into gameplay, and published 1 month after the game's release. This fic is my ultimate baby, and while some of the writing doesn't hold up as well as I'd like (it is three years old, after all) I'm still relatively happy with it. Despite appearances to the contrary, I AM still working on it. I'm just slow and my writing/editing process is a nightmare.
The Last Lost Continent - A spur-of-the-moment rewrite of Boat Drinks but with some plot adjustments more befitting of my specific V. Namely-- she can't swim.
The Wheel of Fortune and the Hanged Man - A rewrite-turned-character study of the Hellman interrogation to more align with my V's canon.
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Playlists:
SilverV Playlist but it's just Vibes and Vague Associations - My ultimate Johnny and V playlist, chock-full of songs that I think fit their general arc over the game (not specific to my own V and Johnny's relationship arc). There are songs here for romantic SilverV, platonic SilverV, and whatever labels are found in-between. This is the playlist that gets updated the most, generally.
Rain in the Desert - A companion playlist of sorts to my longfic. This is my oldest CP2077-centered playlist and the only one where the songs are in a specific order.
The Wheel of Fortune - My playlist for Riley specifically, and the twin playlist to The Hanged Man. Leans more EDM/techno.
The Hanged Man - My playlist for Johnny specifically, and the twin playlist to The Wheel of Fortune. Leans more rock 'n roll/punk.
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Additional Information:
Been Good to Queue Ya - My queue tag. This baby runs on varying intervals and is chock full of all that good Cyberpunk-related stuff. I generally reblog based on a queue system these days save for special occasions, and I give this queue a good shuffle every now and then, so posts at the bottom probably won't stay there.
[[FAQ FOR "NIGHT SKY" POST]]
Also:
Please don't use my photos, memes, etc. without at least asking me. I'm generally pretty amiable to letting people use my stuff with a shoutout, but I will be pissed if I find my stuff being paraded around without a heads up.
Please don't tag any of my writing or photos featuring my specific V and Johnny as 'SilverV'. They aren't a couple. I am very vocal about this.
I'm in a few Discords but I'm not entirely active there. If you tag me specifically, though, I'll usually come running.
Feel free to follow my main blog @setaflow for more general posting. Followbacks will generally come from there. I also have some ancient Cyberpunk posts on that blog if you dig deep enough.
#Aldi speaks#This was long overdue#and now it's here! All neatly lined up and proudly pinned on my dash#The J key is going to be your friends desktop folks. Moblie homies I'm sorry
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Actually here real ultimate game recs (Bri Bri Edition)
True Pick: Mass Effect Series (1 -3 anyway. Andromeda is fully optional)
Runner-up: Spider-Man (2018)
Recency Bias Pick: Cyberpunk 2077
Underrated fave pick: Prey (2017)
Short Game pick: Oxenfree
TUNNELS!!!!: Metro series
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Jogo Midia Fisica Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition para PlayStation 5
Link para compra BR: *Possível importar pelo Link abaixo
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#Games#playstation#ps4#ps5#midia fisica#cyberpunk#cyberpunk 2077#v#Phantom Liberty#cd project red#ultimate edition#cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty
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