#Credit also to Vel for asking Cassian

[colleybri]

Cassian Andor is, apparently, “In all the way” in Andor Season 2…

Hey! Yes, you!! No sniggering at the back… !

This is (of course) what that means …

Tony Gilroy (Polygon interview, among others) : “Cassian’s commitment to the cause is not in doubt. If [season 1] was about him becoming a revolutionary, then the second half is about him becoming a leader”

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So over all that happens across the four years of season 2 Gilroy is not going to have Cassian question his commitment to the cause itself. By making his vow by saying “ kill me, or take me in “ at the end of season 1, he’s now “all in” right through to the end no matter what might happen to him, or to those he cares for, and no matter what he has to do.

I wonder what that would look like in terms of the plot points. Still all sorts of possibilities, but we won’t have anything where Cassian considers throwing in the towel. He will do whatever is necessary for the cause. Within this context (Gilroy)…

“[season 2] is watching how the Alliance itself is going to put pressure on people. Are you in? Or are you out? What happens to the original gangsters, the Saw Gerreras and Luthen Raels? How hard it is to build a coalition? How much betrayal there is, how much failure there is — there’s some canonical material that we have the opportunity to play with. So it’s still a show about regular people making incredible decisions in difficult times.”

Can’t wait to see what’s been cooked up for us.

[naivara]

I was thinking about how much I loved the idea of Vel and Cinta living in ALdhani? you can see that Cinta loved those sheep, so Imagine when Cassian and Jyn have their first baby, Cinta shows off her skills (plenty, bc she can stab you, can shoot you, but also can give you the kindest smile, can heal you, and I know she can do whatever craft you can ask) and gives them the most awesome blanket, or baby clothing.  Vel, knows the Rebellion its quite shitty with their retribution, so she gives them enough credits, they can buy a ship, and also a small house. 

[flythesail]

Skeen's motivations are so interesting to think about because there's this big question of how long he planned this.

His "brother" was something the whole crew presumably knew about, not only made up to earn the new guy (Cassian's) trust. He says in 1x05: "[Vel] wants me to tell you about my brother."

And yet I can't help but think (or maybe it's that I want to believe there's some good in him) that there's no way Skeen didn't come to care for these people he lived beside and trained beside for five months at all. That's a long time to hold out for credits. Granted, it's good money and I don't doubt someone could be that selfish in the slightest. But it's a long time to hold this cover and not slip up too.

So was losing Nemik the final straw?

Was this a thought Skeen had in the back of his mind for a long time yet being outnumbered and surrounded by people that truly believed, never really imagined he'd give into?

Until he's sitting outside with Cassian, whom he barely knows apart from being a guy who might want to "win and walk away" himself. Having lost Taramyn and Gorn already. Asking Cassian, "You think [Nemik will] make it?"

He gets a response marked by hope, one Cassian probably doesn't believe himself: "He could get lucky."

Skeen makes it clear he doesn't believe that, and scoffs: "Yeah, luck."

If it's not Skeen deciding to take the credits and run in this moment of desperation after loss, it's terrible to acknowledge the way that changes so many other scenes.

Particularly Skeen's insistence to get Nemik to the doctor upon Vel's initial questioning: "She doesn't want to jeopardize the mission. This kid, I mean, this kid is the reason that we are here."

I want to believe there's truth in that. Otherwise, what do we have but a man hiding his own greed behind that of a dying young man and a cause greater than the both of them.

Maybe that dark reality is the point to be made, or maybe it's a point of complexity like so much of the show is.

Also, side note - but I'd be curious to know where Skeen's story about his "brother" comes from too. Sure, he could have made it up. But it's quite possible he picked it up from someone else's real life too.

And the thing with that is, the loss of a sibling would have been a point of connection between Skeen and Cassian. So the second Cassian finds out that was a lie? Well, he's done with him.