#Chris Claremont's X-Men Run
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vertigoartgore · 3 months ago
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1991's Uncanny X-Men #274 cover by Jim Lee & Scott Williams.
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samasmith23 · 6 months ago
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This scene with Kitty Pryde & Wolverine might very well be one of the best ways to convince kids to not smoke!
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Lol! Same energy as that one Calvin & Hobbes strip:
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From Uncanny X-Men (1963) #196 by Chris Claremont & John Romita Jr.
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atarashura · 2 months ago
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there is no heterosexual explanation for storm’s attachment and obsession with yukio, im sorry, that’s VERY sapphic idc what anyone says
the hairstyle change??? the leather jacket and immediate lifestyle change days after meeting her???
ororo munroe, i know what you are
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wanderingmind867 · 9 months ago
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Stan Lee may have been the only person who understood the X-Men. Because I legitimately think no one else understood them but him. Stan Lee's X-Men hid their powers when in their civilian identities (at least initially), which makes sense! If they're meant to be so actively hated and feared, this makes sense! Nowadays, they seem to have mostly ditched this. Which is a shame.
Also, I wouldn't say the X-Men work great as a metaphor for race. You want to do stories about racism, ableism, whatever, make more characters of colour or characters with disabilities. Here's a quote from a person who wrote an online post critical of the X-Men. I won't speak to how good his whole article is. But I do want to share this quote: "The most appropriate metaphor for the original Stan Lee comics is probably invisible dimensions of power such as LGBT issues or religion." I think they're right on that one note, and so I wanted to share this quote.
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jewishcissiekj · 4 days ago
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excalibur 1988 will be so good then boom. unbelievable amount of racism
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notes-from-sarah · 11 months ago
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Excalibur (2004) #9 by Chris Claremont
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kamamo1 · 1 year ago
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Not to get in too deep in the Weeds about it, but who thought it would be a good idea to have Si Spuerrier be the one to finally write the Mystique + Destiny = Nightcrawler plot? Like ignoring the fact that they should have brought back Chris Claremont to pull that trigger because it was his original idea and he's the reason why anyone would care about any of those characters today, but like fine you don't ask Chris, Spuerrier still isn't even in the top 10 of writers I would have do this plotline because as a writer I don't think he's able to do an emotional or satisfying payoff that is this 40+ years of a smoking gun plot.
Also why have Spuerrier do it now for when about the whole Kraokoa era Destiny and Mystique haven't really interacted with either Kurt or Rogue in any meaningful or interesting ways, so there's not like meaningful set up or an added weight to what should be this total bombshell?
Idk it just smells of Marvel going 'Fine, we did it. Happy now?' to the fans and not like planning on continuing this thread in any interesting way.
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I REALLY cannot stress how much I have enjoyed reading the Claremont run so far. If you like Marvel, and you haven’t read it, you really should.
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ungoliantschilde · 2 years ago
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Wolverine by Frank Miller and Chris Claremont, with Inks by Joe Rubinstein, and Colors by Glynis Wein.
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vertigoartgore · 7 months ago
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1979's The Comics Journal #50 cover by artist Dennis Fujitake.
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samasmith23 · 7 months ago
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So this scene right here from Uncanny X-Men (1963) #150 by Chris Claremont & Dave Cockrum was the first time ever that Magneto’s tragic origins as a Holocaust survivor were revealed as a central component of the character’s backstory (when he was originally conceived by Stan Lee & Jack Kirby during the Silver Age, Magneto was just your standard one-note bad guy hell bent on world-domination):
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This powerful scene & revelation served as the beginning of Magneto’s long-running character arc of seeking to reform from his past supervillain roots, whilst working alongside the X-Men throughout the duration of Claremont’s run. Heck, Magnus even later reconciled with Kitty Pryde in Uncanny X-Men (1963) #199 by Chris Claremont & John Romita Jr. as the two bonded over their shared generational Jewish trauma at a National Holocaust Memorial event.
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blade-liger-4ever · 7 months ago
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Literally the Fandom of every franchise in existence where fans apply all manner of crap to a character or situation.
i hate when you say something straightfoward and plainly and someone tries to apply subtext that simply isn't there like brother why does everyone call autists retarded when you're the one who clearly can't understand basic speech
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wanderingmind867 · 9 months ago
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I don't know if I'd like the Alpha Flight comics. Because they're tied to the X-Men during Chris Claremont's run, and I don't know if I'd like any of Chris Claremont's X-Men runs. I mean, I've never tried reading much of them, but I don't know if I'd like much of Chris Claremont's X-Men. No offense meant to people who like his X-Men runs, I mean. I just don't know if I'd like them.
And since Alpha Flight seems tied to the whole X-Men universe of the 80s, I don't know if I'd like them or not. Because I feel I might need context for a lot of X-Men stories if they share antagonists and storylines and stuff.
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themarvelproject · 7 months ago
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X-Men WECBA Limited Edition Portfolio by John Byrne (1993) featuring key scenes from his definitive run on Uncanny X-Men alongside Chris Claremont and Terry Austin.
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racefortheironthrone · 1 year ago
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What did you think of X-Men Blue Origins?
(I may turn this into a People's History of the Marvel Universe later today, so keep an eye on this space.)
X-Men Blue: Origins and the Power of the Additive Retcon
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(WARNING: heavy spoilers under the cut)
Introduction
If you've been a long-time X-Men reader, or you're a listener of Jay & Miles or Cerebrocast or any number of other LGBT+ X-Men podcasts, you probably know the story about how Chris Claremont wrote Mystique and Destiny as a lesbian couple, but had to use obscure verbiage and subtextual coding to get past Jim Shooter's blanket ban on LGBT+ characters in the Marvel Universe.
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Likewise, you're probably also familiar with the story that, when Chris Claremont came up with the idea that Raven Darkholme and Kurt Wagner were related (a plot point set up all the way back in Uncanny X-Men #142), he intended that Mystique was Nightcrawler's father, having used her shapeshifting powers to take on a male body and impregnate (her one true love) Irene. This would have moved far beyond subtext - but it proved to be a bridge too far for Marvel editorial, and Claremont was never able to get it past S&P.
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This lacuna in the backstories of Kurt and Raven - who was Kurt's father? - would remain one of the enduring mysteries of the X-Men mythos...and if there's one thing that comic writers like, it's filling in these gaps with a retcon.
Enter the Draco
Before I get into the most infamous story in all of X-Men history, I want to talk about retcons a bit. As I've written before:
"As long as there have been comic books, there have been retcons. For all that they have acquired a bad reputation, retcons can be an incredibly useful tool in comics writing and shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand. Done right, retcons can add an enormous amount of depth and breadth to a character, making their worlds far richer than they were before. Instead, I would argue that retcons should be judged on the basis of whether they’re additive (bringing something new to the character by showing us a previously unknown aspect of their lives we never knew existed before) or subtractive (taking away something from the character that had previously been an important part of their identity), and how well those changes suit the character."
For a good example of an additive retcon, I would point to Chris Claremont re-writing Magneto's entire personality by revealing that he was a Jewish survivor of the Holocaust. As I have argued at some length, this transformed Magneto from a Doctor Doom knockoff into a complex and sympathetic character who could now work as a villain, anti-villain, anti-hero, or hero depending on the needs of the story.
For a good example of a subtractive retcon, I would point to...the Draco. If you're not familiar with this story, the TLDR is that it was revealed that Kurt's father was Azazel - an evil ancient mutant with the same powers and the same appearance (albeit color-shifted) as Kurt, who claims to be the devil and is part of a tribe of demonic-looking mutants who were banished to the Brimstone Dimension, and who fathered Nightcrawler as part of a plot to end this banishment.
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I don't want to belabor Chuck Austen, because I think that Connor Goldsmith is right about his run actually being a camp cult classic in retrospect. However, I think we both agree that the Draco was a misfire, because of how the retcon undermined Kurt's entire thematic purpose as established in Giant-Size X-Men that Nightcrawler was actually a noble and arguably saintly man who suffered from unjust prejudice due to the random accident that his mutation made him appear to be a demon, and because of how the retcon undermined the centrality of Mystique and Destiny's relationship.
X-Men Blue Origins
This brings us to the Krakoan era. In HOXPOX and X-Men and Inferno, Jonathan Hickman had made Mystique and Destiny a crucial part of the story in a way that they hadn't been in decades: they were the great nemeses of Moira X, they were the force that threatened to burn Krakoa to the ground by revealing the devil's bargain that Xavier had struck with Sinister (and Moira), they were the lens through which the potential futures of Krakoa were explored, and they ultimately reshaped the Quiet Council and the Five in incredibly consequential ways.
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This throughline was furthered after Hickman's departure, with Kieron Gillen exploring the backstories of Mystique and Destiny in Immortal X-Men and Sins of Sinister, and both Gillen and Si Spurrier exploring their relationship with Nightcrawler in AXE Judgement Day, Sins of Sinister, Way of X, Legion of X, Nightcrawlers, and Sons of X. One of the threads that wove through the interconnected fabric of these books was an increasing closeness between Kurt and Irene that needed an explanation. Many long-time readers began to anticipate that a retcon about Kurt's parentage was coming - and then we got X-Men Blue: Origins.
In this one issue, Si Spurrier had the difficult assignment of figuring out a way to "fix" the Draco and restore Claremont's intended backstory in a way that was surgical and elegant, that served the character arcs of Kurt, Raven, and Irene, and that dealt with complicated issues of trans and nonbinary representation, lesbian representation, disability representation, and the protean nature of the mutant metaphor. Thanks to help from Charlie Jane Anders and Steve Foxe, I think Spurrier succeeded tremendously.
I don't want to go through the issue beat-by-beat, because you should all read it, but the major retcon is that Mystique turns out to be a near-Omega level shapeshifter, who can rewrite themselves on a molecular level. Raven transformed into a male body and impregnated Irene, using bits of Azazel and many other men's DNA as her "pigments." In addition to being a deeply felt desire on both their parts to have a family together, this was part of Irene's plan to save them both (and the entire world) from Azazel's schemes, a plan that required them to abandon Kurt as a scapegoat-savior (a la Robert Graves' King Jesus), and to have Xavier wipe both their memories.
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Now, I'm not the right person to write about what this story means on a representational level; I'll leave it to my LGBT+ colleagues on the Cerebrocast discord and elsewhere to discuss the personal resonances the story had for them.
What I will say, however, is that I thought this issue threaded the needle of all of these competing imperatives very deftly. It "fixed" the Draco without completely negating it, it really deepened and complicated the characters and relationships of both Raven and Irene (by showing that, in a lot of ways, Destiny is the more ruthless and manipulative of the two), and it honored Kurt's core identity as a man of hope and compassion (even if it did put him in a rather thankless ingénue role for much of the book).
It is the very acme of an additive retcon; nothing was lost, everything was gained.
I still think the baby Nightcrawler is just a bad bit, but then again I don't really vibe with Spurrier's comedic stylings.
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fostersffff · 6 months ago
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Heavily respect Chris Claremont for being so clearly biased about which of his characters he likes the most from the very start of his X-Men run.
"This is Banshee. He's an Irish and he lives in a shack."
"THIS IS ORORO, THE STORM GODDESS, THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN HISTORY- A GODDESS, EVEN! BEHOLD AS SHE DANCES ACROSS THE SKY USING HER AWESOME MUTANT POWERS, SO HAPPY IT MAKES THE SKY WEEP, GRANTING MUCH NEEDED RAIN TO THE LAND! HERE ARE A FEW MORE CLOSE UP PANELS OF HER BEAUTIFUL FACE IN CASE YOU WEREN'T SURE ABOUT HOW THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN EVER DRAWN TO LIFE!"
"This is Sunfire, he's like, Japanese or something."
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