#Billford and the theory about him and The Oracle being exes???

[sashannarcycanon]

"Bill Cipher is bisexual and polyamorous," I say into the mic. The crowd boos. I begin to walk off in shame when a voice speaks and commands silence from the room.

"She's right," They say. I look for the owner of the voice, there in the second row stands Bill Cipher himself.

[wildpeachfarm]

I will say I've never noticed it before (and granted Lee as host is a new thing so that brings a different tone), but I can't think of a ton of examples of queer media they've covered to begin with so 🤷‍♀️

To add, the idea of "the oracle" being Bill's ex is straight from Matpat's son (said by Mat himself on gtlive), so I fully assumed they focused on that angle because of it. I was also disappointed by them not acknowledging billford though, like come on guys it wasn't subtle

More distressing is the fact they kinda...forgot (that's the kinder explanation anyway) to credit the reddit people whose findings they were using, and only later put their names in the video description

YIKES okay I'm getting some mixed signals but yeah my current issue is absolutely how they handled any of the very obvious Bill and Ford context clues in the book (and the show, let's be real) in favor of a really unsubstantiated theory about a random female character that is mentioned BARELY ONCE that was conceived by Ollie (mat's son) and does nothing but completely erase the very real and very queer ex-partner of Bill's that we literally see in the book and is acknowledged by MULTIPLE characters in multiple different scenarios (we literally see Mabel telling Bill to crush on someone else's uncle for a change 😭 and Ford calling Bill the center of his entire universe)- at this point, Alex Hirsch cannot spell it out any more clear without Disney trying to censor him like they did for the actual show lol

And yeah I'm in the massive GF discord that works on decoding the ciphers and all the lore and there were some very upsetting discussions in there about how poorly plagiarized the GT video was overall and the lack of credit given anywhere when the video was first released (although thankfully it seems that is being fixed now)

I was just curious if GT has ever had this problem in the past because I don't really remember there being many other chances for them to disregard very obvious subtext like that (except for Welcome Home which I have heard they also disregarded the queer components of that story)

but yeah

just my ramblings lmao

[mossdogs]

Bill for the ask game?

Sexuality Headcanon: i dont think he uses labels. his sexuality is beyond our understanding.

Gender Headcanon: agender! canonically theres plenty of genders in euclydia, and bill doesnt even know which one he is, but uses he/him. (heres an essay that kindafooey wrote about the subject of gender in the show and bill specifically, which expresses my thoughts better than i ever could. i suggest giving it a read!)

A ship I have with said character: i think its obvious lol. i would ramble abt billford for HOURS. they drive me insane. i can fw fiddbill depending on how they are portrayed

A BROTP I have with said character: i guess him and the henchmaniacs. oh and the oracle too

A NOTP I have with said character: him and any of the pine twins. proud to say that ive been a billdip and mabill hater since i was 10 years old. im so thankful that most people realized how fucked up those ships were. it pisses me the fuck off to see billdip being the most written ship for bill ughh

him and the oracle too. theres a few people theorizing that they were exes but its such a stupid theory to me lol. blaming this on matpat's kid. also stanbill is kinda boring and this ones a personal preference but him and pyramid steve... they are brothers to me.

A random headcanon: his limbs arent black: he wears black gloves and knee high boots

General Opinion over said character: i wanna put him on a hydraulic press