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theloganator101 · 4 months
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Well Horikoshi… Congratulations.
You have invented a new kind of stupid. A damage you can never undo, kind of stupid. An “open all the cages in the zoo” Kind of stupid. Truly, you didn’t think this through kind of stupid!
Let’s review: you took a concept a few, made a manga and it got popular. And instead of taking criticism you just pandered to the desperate fans in order to keep the money flowing. We begged you to take a break, you refused to. So scared of what the competition will do to you You're the only enemy you ever seem to lose to You know why other anime are better than yours? They don’t get biases and cave in to fan demands! So yeah, congratulations!
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bibibbon · 1 month
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I'm really curious if people in the bnha subreddit know the meaning of character development when they say Bakugou changes and has better character development. Whenever I hear this sentence I'm like where tf is the change & development. He is the same guy he was from chapter 1. The only difference I've seen is he shouts less but that's it.
His apology to izuku was shit, his whole talk right after the apology about izuku's chosen path and ideals and how he was asking izuku to rely on him and shitty 1A was pure BS. The 2nd war proved how pathetic Bakugou and 1A were against AFO and my boi Shiggyband it also proved that Izuku was right to go vigilante and his reasons for doing it alone were right.
Also leading 1A's confrontation against Izuku, he never once took accountability for Izuku's mental state. Instead he blamed it on the one person who supported and was actually a positive influence to Izuku. He never opened up to anyone about how he abused and suicide baited Izuku.
He was being a prick to Fuyumi in the endeavour agency arc. Treated his team as lackeys and underlings in the JT arc. Bitched about how he wasn't included in the OFA meeting and disrespected the previous OFA holders. It was irritating that All might didn't tell him to get out for disrespecting Nana. Anyone other than Bakugou would've been a better sparring partner for Izuku during his blackwhip training.
Took izuku out and used him as his punching bag while gaslighting him for not revealing about OFA. Also why and how was he an inspiration to 1A when he didn't do shit for them. It should have only been Izuku.
Goes after the villains and gets himself captured even though he knew he was a prime target for LOV.
And why was he targeted by LOV? Thanks to his overall behaviour and track record from the sports festival fights with Uraraka and Shoto.
Even after knowing shoto's trauma, he still was being a POS to him.
They said he respected Uraraka in the sports festival but before the fight he told her to give up, looked down on her and never saw her as a threat. He was unnecessarily dragging the fight instead of ending it and used excess force in his explosion when it wasn't necessary considering it was just a sport and not a life or death battle. He later says "time to get serious" which means he never took her seriously which debunks Aizawa's claims and validates the audience's criticism of him. Even after the fight he still went and asked izuku if izuku had given a plan to her. This means he never thought Uraraka was capable of devising a strategy. So where was the respect in all this.
The subreddit always said he started to develop after the USJ arc but all the above arcs happened after USJ and none of them showed that he developed.
Hori literally bends the narrative to favour his pet and the bnha subreddit says "hurray character development", "he changed".
People actually claim that bakugo somehow started changing after the usj arc?!?! Really!!!
I personally don't think bakugo's character has had that big of a change at best I can say that he shouts a bit less but other than that there isn't much. The only reason that people think bakugo has changed is because the narrative tries to frame it that way and whenever bakugo does something that's outright wrong like punching Izuku it's painted as "oh that's just bakugo" or it's made into a gag that we are supposed to dismiss or laugh at.
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In my opinion it's not just MHA subbredit that believes in bakugo's "amazing" redemption and arc but it's a good chunk of the MHA fandom in general. Heck I remember coming across a post that showed how bakugo changed and @sapphic-agent debunked the post (Iam glad she did and she done it really well)
If bakugo were to properly be developed than a good chunk of his arc should be to develop out of his rivalry or his need for one.
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justatalkingface · 11 months
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In Lack Of Defense to Aizawa
-And to varying extents literally every other UA staff member, and basiclly anyone in any sort of authority or who just exists in MHA at all.
Something I saw recently (when I started this post, months ago, anyways) that kind of pissed me of (that I'm posting here, with no connections to where it happened, because it was on a nice fic I like and I don't want to bring crap into the comments just because I don't agree with the author's view on something) is the idea that Aizawa is... how do I put this, more excusable because he doesn't know the full story behind Izuku and Bakugou.
And... to some extent, that isn't wrong, is the thing. He doesn't know that Bakugou systematically made Izuku's life hell, so he can't be expected to react to it (you can question how he would react to it, and that's a completely fair thing to be concerned about, all things considered, though that isn't the point of all this)... but. The thing is, he can be expected to react to what he does know/see, and that's the vastly justifiable criticism of him as a teacher comes from.
Day One: Bakugou attacks Izuku for.... existing with a Quirk. And here's the thing, Aizawa does stop that, but Izuku, and most people who read the story, phrase that as, 'Aizawa stopped Bakugou! Good job Aizawa!'. That's not the right response. The right response is: Aizawa stopped Bakugou, as is his literal job; it's not something that should be acknowledged as unique or impressive. Aizawa being the only person in Izuku's life to stop Bakugou is not glowing praise for Aizawa, it's blistering condemnation for everyone else. Not letting your students try to kill each in front of you is, in fact, the bare fucking minimum.
And here's the where the problem starts: Aizawa does that... and nothing else. Good Old 'Expel 'Em All' Aizawa watches a student attack a fellow student in front of him (after, for the record, sabotaging the same student in the race by blasting him with his explosions, which... is also something that, at least, should be something discussed, if not be summarily expelled over, since being happy is expulsion worthy in Aizawa Land, or being someone that reminds him of All Might) and his response is complaining that Bakugou is making him do more work. Which. You know, is bad. He doesn't even scold Bakugou, or warn him, or do anything to punish him for this.
'You're giving me dry eye, damn it!'
Yes. Because, when one student attacks another, that is the concerning point. How it inconveniences you.
(For the record, I'll touch on all the other problems with this chunk of time, which are present but not actually on target for this post, just to be thorough: doing this test at all, when they already passed, doing it on day one, doing it, apparently, because they were excited and/or because he reminded Eraserhead of All Might, threatening to expel Izuku for daring to not having control of his Quirk, being proud he only broke one finger, not doing anything to help him stop breaking his bones, teaching his students that he'll only lie to them by his whole, 'Logical Ruse' bit, (which if anything should make his threats have less bite when he fails to follow through on them every time), and sabotaging the score when, as I've discussed before, there's no way Toru, at the very least, could outperform Izuku on a test around the physical abilities of her Quirk when her Quirk is invisibility.... a test that, for extra hypocrite points, he couldn't have passed as a student.)
Day Two: Bakugou actually tries to murder Izuku in a training exercise. And I say murder deliberately; All Might explained what would happen if he hit Izuku with his gauntlet, and doesn't even argue with that assessment, instead saying, 'He won't die if he dodges!'.
In other words, Bakugou is saying, 'He'll die if I hit him!'
The next day, after reviewing the test, Aizawa says.... 'Bakugou, stop acting like a seven year old.'
Not: we're taking away your gauntlets until you can use them responsibly. Not: killing people is wrong. Not: disobey a teacher again and I'll expel you. Not: Any form of punishment or disciplinary action for, again, an actual murder attempt.
Grow up.
...Do you see where the problem is here?
Beyond this point, there's god knows how many times Bakugou yells at and/or attacks Izuku for Reasons(TM) throughout their entire school life, none of which is actually hidden from anyone, culminating in the Final Exam where Aizawa admits they have problems working together.... which is, in itself, phrasing that puts the burden as much on Izuku as it does on Bakugou. That is, needless to say, bullshit: the problem is completely on Bakugou's side, because Izuku would be pathetically grateful to his abuser if they could work together, and he constantly does his best to make that happen, no matter how often that never actually works for him.
This phrasing fits Aizawa's 'solution', which is to pair them together for their exam against All Might, again putting the burden for Bakugou's attitude on Izuku rather than dealing with it himself, with the (again, lied about) consequences of not going with the rest of the class on their summer outing, along with probably being closer to flunking out of school. This attitude culminates, ultimately, in BvD2, where Bakugou does everything to start the fight, including launching the first blow, Izuku is defending himself, yet they are both held equally responsible.
So. In Aizawa Land, if I walk up to someone with a crowbar, start hitting them, and they hit me back so I don't crack their skull open, we're both to blame for the fight; after all, they hit me, right? Seriously. Has he arrested civilians for fighting back against people trying to rob/rape/murder them? Because under this logic? The victim is just as much to blame as the robber/rapist/murder.
Alright, so as much as these posts are generally scathing criticisms, I do strive to be somewhat fair. All of these points? All of these points apply to All Might. And to Nezu. And Midnight. And Present Mic. And Class 1A. And Class 1B. And... you know what, let me sum it up: this applies to everyone who has seen Bakugou and Izuku interact, and went, 'Aww..., they're rivals!'. Which. Is basiclly every named character with any screen time, barring maybe the original version of Best Jeanist, before he became an empty shell whose only job is to praise Bakugou.
This isn't a unique problem. This is a Bakugou Problem. This is because no one can hold Bakugou accountable for anything he does, ever, and because of his quantum characterization, Bakugou lives in a consequence free reality where he says and does one thing, and literally the entire world goes selectively blind to act like he did something else entirely. It makes him come out of every situation smelling like roses, even if he spent the entire time bathing in shit, and it makes everyone around him pay the price for him instead. I'm only focusing on Aizawa for one reason: because the fandom worships him.
People love the Kakashi replacement more than they did the original model, and unlike Bakugou this isn't contentious; Bakugou may be more popular but Eraserhead's love is far more universal.
Dadzawa, despite being blatant falsehoods, is the most common take on him, but it's not even that that sparked this rant; it's that people look at him as an actual, flawed, person who makes mistakes, but refuse to go to the next logical step on those mistakes because he's 'doing his best'.
Because he's not.
He has never done his best, because he is falling asleep in class. There is no way for me to look at this disaster, sleeping in class, threatening his students, constantly eroding their trust in his words, and think, 'he's doing his best', because he isn't.
'Doing your best' means, basiclly, you never could have done this, because of some inability, but your trying anyways. All Might is trying his best, because he doesn't know how to teach at all (now that he's done training up Izuku, anyways). He's failing, yes, but he's clearly trying.
Aizawa isn't, because he's not trying. Unlike All Might, he can teach, is the thing, he's just choosing not too. Once in a blue moon, when the school administration puts it's baleful eye on him he actually does teach; he did help Momo and Shoto, for example. Problem being, he only did it then, when he was forced to test them, instead of... any time before their exam (while still somehow missing Shoto's entire everything at the same time, which is failure on such a enormous level it's kind of impressive). Then, of course, there's his mini-me, who he took from a skinny branch of a scrub to being able to use his combat scarf proficiently in battle, an absurdly exotic weapon who having an even a basic mastery must have taken months of difficult, intensive training. If Aizawa was 'trying his best', he'd be doing that teaching... you know, at all, basiclly and not when he's being held at professional gun point, or when it's for his one favorite who isn't even in his class.
Aizawa isn't doing his best, he's doing the absolute minimum he can to keep this position.
And just... look. I get that he's tired. I get he has two full time jobs. I get that that's easily the most sympathetic emotion for basiclly everyone these days, that everyone can vibe to existential exhaustion on a soul deep level. But the thing is, every Hero teacher we've seen, period, is an actual Hero. Beyond Aizawa, the only person we see having trouble with that is All Might who is, A, a new teacher, B, canonly shit with his time management and has a long, storied history of overdoing it, and C, is missing most of his internal organs. Forget teaching, every morning the man wakes up vaguely surprised he's still alive! All Might has a great excuse for being tired and overworked. Everyone else? Everyone is also working two jobs, with Present Mic working three, and still handling it a lot better than Eraserhead is.
No one made Eraserhead come in the next day after being brutally beaten to the point where he had permanent damage and was still covered in bandages, which probably set back his recovery by weeks, realistically. No one is making him work so hard he has to take naps in class to stay functional. And yet, he's the only one who can't seem to keep that schedule up.
He chose to have two jobs, and unlike most people with two jobs, he doesn't need them; he's not being a teacher so he can get a steady paycheck and have food to eat, this is a luxury to him, a choice he's willingly making for fun, not to support himself.
What I'm saying is: if the man can't handle being both a full time hero and a full time teacher, then maybe he should stop doing both at the same time. Aizawa being tired doesn't make him a good teacher, it just makes him bad at time management.
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bakugoxconsquences · 3 months
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Tell me why I like one g-d damn BnHA post and all of a sudden my shit is flooded with B@kud3ku content.
I can't have shit in the economy.
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blank468 · 8 months
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Describe Bakugo’s development in short words
If you were to ask me how would I describe Bakugo’s development in short words, it would come across as being boring and predictable. Let’s start with the fact that despite being a secondary character, Bakugo has no real purpose/contribution in the main story line. His involvement with Deku and OFA doesn’t amount to anything other than mindless yelling, guilt tripping, and just him treating it as a competition to try and surpass Deku when he unlocks his other quirks. The only reason he’s involved in a lot of what’s going on is because of his popularity. He started gaining popularity when he won the Sports festival and because everyone like the stereotypical angry rival trope. He can be replaced by literally any other character and nothing would change.
It’s basically a pattern whenever Bakugo is involved with something.
- Bakugo will treat others beneath him and continue to call the extras.
- Whatever is going in the story if it’s a fight between the villains or something school related, he’ll treat it as a competition.
- He’ll either verbally attack Deku and everyone around them or get physical to get what he wants.
- Deku won’t see this as an issue and continue to gush over Bakugo about how he’s a good friend and the idea of him being the symbol of victory
-Anyone that calls out his horrible behavior will do a complete 180 and talk about how whatever he said either makes sense or to give some baseless excuse about how he changed
- Aizawa, All Might and or anyone in UA will make some claim about how his some kind of an inspiration for 1A and Bakugo is trying harder than everyone else(completely ignoring all of 1A’s accomplishments and improvements throughout their first year)
- After winning or coming out on top whatever Bakugo will take his win for granted and will act like it doesn’t mean anything while acting aggressive when someone compliments him
- What ever punishment or consequences he gets(not matter how fatal is) will be minor and the story will find to way to have him come out at top without any struggle
- The story will have characters feel bad, guilty for Bakugo for something so minuscule and or try to punish them in a similar manner like Bakugo (A recent example of the story punishing characters because of Bakugo’s actions is in the Card OVA. I didn’t bother watching it because I knew it was just a product plug for training cards but from what I viewed from other people’s discussions, the match between Deku and Bakugo ends with a tie. Apparently Bakugo threw another hissy fit and not only destroyed the card game but blew up the dorm with everyone inside. Instead of punishing Bakugo for destroying public property and potentially injuring his classmates, Aizawa decides to punish all of Class 1A and ban them from playing any other games in the dorm.)
I know everyone has their own interpretation on how they feel about Bakugo and that’s perfectly fine. I don’t have problem if you like him, but Bakugo is written as if everything he did or stood for never mattered. Izuku, Class 1A , UA and by extension Horikoshi, wants the audience to believe that all the positive aspects about his character somehow outweigh the negatives and we’re supposed to accept that Bakugo has fully grown while at the same time instantly forgiving him for being a spiteful and petty bully. No matter what happens to him, he’ll still come out on top as if what he went through wasn’t consequential or lethal. He’s constantly giving wins and random asspulls to favor him despite either doing the bare minimum of his supposed development or not doing anything at all. Bakugo in the eyes of others will always be seen as the true MVP and is the one that always has to win. He’s nothing but a pet under the care of his creator who will go out of his way to make every other character look bad and pathetic than they already are; including the main protagonist.
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mimusy · 2 years
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Bakugo: The Case Against Forgiveness
Katsuki Bakugo, a student with explosive powers who is known for his aggressive behavior and toxic personality. Despite his popularity among some viewers, it is important to acknowledge that Bakugo's toxic traits cannot be ignored or forgiven.
Bakugo's Toxic Traits
Bakugo is a character who is defined by his aggressive behavior and superiority complex. He constantly belittles, insults, and even physically attacks his classmates, particularly Izuku. His behavior is not only harmful to others, but also to himself, as it often leads him to make reckless decisions that put himself and his team in danger. Bakugo's inability to work well with others is a major flaw, considering that hero work often involves cooperation and communication.
Furthermore, Bakugo's toxic traits are often glorified by the show, which can send the wrong message to viewers. His violent outbursts and aggressive behavior are often portrayed as heroic and admirable, which can normalize toxic behavior for impressionable viewers. This normalization of toxic behavior is a concerning trend in media, as it can lead to real-life consequences for individuals who model their behavior after fictional characters.
The Case Against Forgiveness
Some fans argue that Bakugo's behavior can be justified by his “””traumatic past””” or his desire to be a great hero. However, these arguments do not excuse or justify his toxic behavior. While it is important to acknowledge that characters can have complex motivations, it is not enough to overlook the harm that Bakugo causes to others.
Forgiveness is often seen as a virtuous act, but it is important to remember that forgiveness requires accountability and genuine remorse. Bakugo has never taken responsibility for his behavior or shown any real regret for the harm he has caused. Instead, he continues to belittle and insult others, even after being confronted about his behavior.
Forgiving Bakugo would not only be harmful to the other characters in the show, but also to viewers who have experienced toxic behavior in their own lives. It sends the message that toxic behavior can be excused or forgotten, which can have real-life consequences for individuals who have been harmed by toxic people.
Conclusion
In conclusion, Bakugo's toxic behavior is a major flaw that cannot be ignored or forgiven. His aggressive behavior, superiority complex, and inability to work well with others make him a toxic character that glorifies harmful behavior. It is important to hold characters like Bakugo accountable for their actions and send the message that toxic behavior will not be tolerated or excused.
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mal3f1cent · 3 months
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rewatching bnha and...
why the fuck is aizawa such a jackass in the start of the series? like i imagine his class grows on him but bakugo's behavior Is Not Healthy Or Even Joking. midoriya could've died multiple times due to the negligence of his teachers (all might i am looking at you). and of course that isn't even touching on midoriya and bakugo's dynamic. all of it's really fucked up and normalizes abuse and bullying even from teachers who are supposed to protect their students.
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The reason why I’m so critical of Bakugo, why I, well, hate him or atleast *strongly* despise him is that I deal with enough assholes irl who escape consequences and proper reprimands just because they’re priveleged (read: rich, well-connected, good-looking, etc.). I don’t need a deuteragonist who basically represents all that, in-universe and within the fandom, to flaunt this shit in my face.
I’d much rather enjoy and appreciate the emotional struggles of a beaten down, bullied kid who is intense, self-sacrificial, smart as a whip learning to be a hero and defining what that means for himself along the way. I just want to ignore the fandom ooohing and aaaahing and shouting “wow character development!!!” over Bakugo doing the barest minimum while calling Izuku bland or boring.
He’s not. Just because he wasn’t a self centred asshole doesn’t mean he didn’t develop in other ways. Izuku’s gotten more strength in his spine, has learned to see the world in shades of gray, has gotten better at seeing himself and his capabilities with confidence and that is growth, too.
Not all character development has to be downward-facing.
What I mean is that a low esteemed, emotionally vulnerable person learning to have a healthy view of themself is also growth. It doesn’t always have to be a character overcoming an obviously negative trait.
Bakugo’s questionable development was him being brought down a peg or two and then rebuilding himself with a better foundation. Something I have been very unsatisfied with, given Hori’s resistance to actually pointing out the extent of Bakugo’s misdeeds.
On the other hand, Izuku’s development was him starting from rock bottom with a solid foundation and going upward since day 1. Middle school Izuku who was blindly optimistic but reluctantly acceptive of mistreatment is a far cry from UA Izuku who calls out a lot of bullshit and bad behaviour, who valiantly faces Todoroki and makes him correct course, who accepts the burdens of OfA and inspires almost everyone he comes across.
So in a way, what I mean is: I hate Bakugo because he’s uninteresting af and reminiscent of all the irl day-to-day shitheads I come across. I don’t care for his redemption because the growth of the boy who has been trying his best since day one and who continues to fight against all odds is what I want to root for.
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merely-a-caricature · 2 years
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I just felt like pointing out the fact that even if Izuku wasn’t in Bakugou’s life, he still probably would have been a bully. Because, seriously, the first panels in the manga are of Izuku trying to protect some kid that Bakugou was bullying.
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He was already picking on other kids than Izuku very early on! Bakugou would’ve been a bully and an egotistical jerk even if Izuku wasn’t in his life. This just shows that he treats everyone this way. He’s not very nice to his lackeys or friends either. Even to the “Bakusquad” he’s still not very kind. Bakugou was just particularly nasty to Izuku and decided to target him. He’d grow up a jerk with a superiority complex regardless
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asterraugury · 1 year
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Also the amount of distain and hatred I feel towards Bakugo is insane not in like a “I’m going to kill this child” kind of way it’s a “someone has to make this kid eat dirt NOW” kind of way yaknow? And every time one of the characters suck up to him I feel like I’m going to put my head through a wall
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sleepydrabbles · 2 years
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How many of you hate Bakugo because he represents everything inside yourself with the power to destroy that moral superiority you hold over everyone?
I did. I didn’t like Bakugo until I was more honest with myself. Until I realized that my rage against him was also pointed inward.
Funnily enough, Izuku’s arc with Bakugo seems to be less about repairing a friendship and more about coming to peace with himself, loving himself, and choosing to stop lagging behind for Bakugo’s benefit. He doesn’t obsess over Bakugo’s strength the way he used to— and tbh, I don’t obsess over the destructive side of my personality as much either.
I think that’s the lesson, here. Not “forgive your abuser”, not “repair a broken friendship”, but “see that you are one coin with two sides and make peace with that— then you’ll leave the side of yourself you hate behind.”
And that’s my prerogative. People can learn from a story without participating in the main narrative. People can learn lessons from a character who to you is just an echo of times past. Learn to let go of your need to have everyone agree with and accept your interpretation; it’s poison.
This isn’t just “don’t like, don’t read”. This is “accept that you are not all people and all people are not you.” Bakugo triggers you. Bakugo reminds you of a past that hurt you.
Bakugo triggered me. Bakugo reminded me of the small, neglected, tired part of me that wanted to set the world ablaze and scream until people remembered I existed. Bakugo is loud. Bakugo swears at people who don’t deserve it. Bakugo jumps into battle guns-blazing and, if the stuff I’ve seen on trauma symptoms holds true, is a walking example of ptsd red flags. He’s everything I’ve fought not to be since I realized at 16 the direction my life was headed. I hated him.
I wanted to be him.
In a sense, Izuku and I fought the same battles as he and Bakugo clashed again and again. That tension between the desire to help people and the desire to destroy, to come out on top, to always be the best because that was where the validation was coming from— I knew that. That same fight was going on in my own psyche.
Then the fight after Bakugo’s kidnapping, like a slap in the face. The idea that both my destructive and creative sides could present something of value to the world? Unreal. Too much. Watching Bakugo and Izuku settle into this unsteady peace where they at least seemed to respect each others’ power and viewpoint was… holy shit it was groundbreaking.
After that, it was easier to laugh at my own destructive urges instead of shoving them down, fighting them, ignoring them. Because they’re impossible to ignore. Because they’re always going to be there. I can’t shut out the child and teenager who were locked into this disgusting play of better and best— instead, like Izuku, I can huff out an exasperated “kacchan!” And move on with my life.
Because eventually even Bakugo decided Izuku’s way was better. Because as much as Bakugo is morally imperfect, even reprehensible, he’s relatable. Because Bakugo Katsuki is not just a bully, he’s a fucking human being, and if you can’t see that past your trauma that’s not my fault.
Do what you have to do. Say what you have to say. But get the fuck off your high horse and put your feet in the mud like the rest of us before you criticize us for being soiled.
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theloganator101 · 11 days
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The Great BNHA Review: Katuski Bakugou, the Character That Ruined Everything
Yeah, that's right, this guy gets his own section in this!
Because he's literally the catalyst that ruined what could've been a good series if he was just left behind after the battle trials.
So by now I’m sure we ALL know who this douche is, he’s part of the main cast who used to bully Izuku and was also the one who gave him that degrading nickname Deku. And from there has become a sort of rival to Izuku to butt heads with... but here's where things kind of start to go wrong.
Hori found himself liking him out of everyone and decided to make BNHA his wattpad fanfiction where everyone loves Bakugou and blows sunshine up his ass whenever he becomes a topic of discussion.
And that isn't even the worst part, no no no, the worst part is that Bakugou himself is a flaming dumpster fire of a character!
He's always yelling everything he says so it makes it hard to listen to him, he's obnoxious and rude to everyone around him, is pretty much talented at everything he does so he comes across as more of a Gary Stu than anything... And he's never. Punished. Once.
At least in a way that's satisfying.
Sure he got put under House Arrest for being out after curfew, but the reason why this doesn't work is because Izuku ALSO gets punished alongside him! When he was only defending himself and couldn't run away! And the fact that Izuku got more flock for it AND was the one to apologize to it... I'm sorry but that's literally fucked up!
And I know there's gonna be some people that'll say:
"Well that's how it is in the real world, it's being realistic of how bullying situations usually goes."
I'm sorry, I don't go to fiction to be reminded of how much the world sucks. I go to fiction to experience a good story and watch characters grow and become better versions of themselves!
But Katsuki Bakugou, never goes through any of this!
He never grows or learns from his past mistakes, he never learns that his behavior is toxic and how it effects the people around him, and he never becomes a better version of himself... In fact he only got worse if the ending is anything to go by!
He just stays the same because that's how the fandom adores him as! A potty mouth arrogant asshole character who happens to be hot in their eyes!
To put it simply, he's a leech to the BNHA story. He sucks away screentime and attention that could've gone to the other characters that needed it to make their stories hit harder. He sucks away the nuance and themes the story was supposed to have in order to keep him in a good light without acknowledging his bad actions. And to hammer in the worst part about Bakugou.
... He prevents Izuku from growing and becoming the main character he was supposed to be. In fact I would even go as far to say Hori probably wished Bakugou was the main character instead, if he loves asshole characters so much, then he might as well make one the main character in his next work.
Edit: This part is an add on as I completely forgot about it and couldn't do it earlier today as I was at work, but now I'm here to fix it.
Bakudeku... this ship is a stain on all shipping. It's literally Abuser x Victim and it's disgusting how people romanticize this so much. And I believe it's this ship that twists their views on relationships and it'll cause them to get into abusive relationships since it's so normalized in this fanon ship that shouldn't even be seen in the positive light that it is.
So to end this part off before we get to closing thoughts, Katsuki Bakugou is without a doubt the worst anime character I have the misfortune of seeing. He's the shining example of what happens when you play favorites and trying to show everyone how great they are.
Fuck you Katuski Bakugou. You ruined BNHA.
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bibibbon · 2 months
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And while we're on the subject of Bakugou's "apology", it really rubs me the wrong way at how 1A just takes him for his word when he throws All Might under the bus for Izuku's low self esteem and self sacrificing tendancies.
Izuku flat out told Ida and Ochako that Deku was an insult and not a friendly nickname.
They were there to see how hard Bakugou was going against him during the Battle Trials, and a lot of them were genuinely scared that he was going to kill Izuku. Hell, even Momo quickly realized that at the very least, Bakugou held some sort of grudge against him.
Momo, Ida, and Ochako saw Bakugou backhand Izuku and refuse to work with him during the final exams.
They all saw him INSULTING Izuku when they were about to beat him into submission before 1A vs Izuku. They were even there when Bakugou admitted (but not really) to bullying Izuku.
I know that this is due to Hori sweeping Bakugou's earlier behavior under the rug, but come on! Anyone with common sense would be able to see that Bakugou is NOT Izuku's friend anything he says about Izuku should be taken with a grain of salt.
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There's a reason why I don't talk about how bad bakugos apology is and that's because there are already a mountain of other posts that have talked about it and phrased what I wanted to say in ways that I could never do.
However, the one thing that continually bugs me is just how horikoshi makes class 1A react to bakugos behaviour and the "revelation" of his actions. During the early arcs of MHA (before the sports festival) class 1A were allowed to have their opinions on bakugo and actively made it clear that they dislikes him and his behaviour somehow without bakugo changing at all class 1A's own behaviour towards bakugo changes and they seem to accept that him being aggressive is just a bakugo way or thing.
In the earlier arcs like the battle trials 1A literally saw bakugo saying that he wants to kill Izuku and it was actually kirishima who spoke out to all might and told him multiple times to stop the fight because he knew bakugo was taking it too far. Heck even after the fight and when izuku came back to class the 1A kids all talked about how well he did and asked if he was okay while they ignored and didn't acknowledge bakugo (which says a lot)
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Asui calls bakugo out in the usj arc. Tokoyami also calls bakugos behaviour out in chapter 327 when bakugo is still being rude to midoriya after his alleged apology.
Izuku literally explains to iida and ochako that the name deku is an insult and when izuku picks out the name deku as his hero name the whole of class 1A looks in shock and uncomfortable heck someone even asks him if he is sure that he wants to use that name due to the negative connotations it has.
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While I do like the idea of izuku choosing the name because ochakos gave a new meaning to it I think that was just poorly done and showed how izuku was just attention starved at best.
Heck even in the final exam battle the teachers and some students saw how bakugo was treating midoriya yet bakugo receives no concequences for this and the narrative acts like aizawas plan of putting the two together was a great idea so they can somehow get along when there is clearly a horrible dynamic between the two. This also makes me think why the hell did all might not do anything about this?!?! Like come on all might you are literally witnessing bullying and it's your mentee getting bullied and you choose to do nothing ?!?!??
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One of the reasons why bakugos apology and the whole 1A Vs izuku fight fails is because instead of them trying to properly reach out to him they literally beat him. This is also one of the reasons why iida's role is my favourite during that fight because he doesn't try and beat izuku or to harm him or to make Izuku deflect an attack. No, iida reaches for izuku and holds his hand while trying to encourage him to come back to UA and tires to comfort him.
Before the fight bakugo literally starts by taunting and insulting Izuku and at the same moment he also tries to apologise like he didn't do the thing a moment before?!?! Bakugo also never acknowledges just how his bullying and abuse for 10 years has effected izuku. He doesn't ack how the name deku has effected izuku or how he contributed to izuku's poor mental health. The narrative simply doesn't acknowledge it and so bakugo doesn't acknowledge it either, all bakugo does is simply offer an explanation as to why he thought he could bully izuku and to be honest that explanation was so stupid. Seriously, bakugos whole inferiority and superiority complex that he has going on is incredibly badly written.
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justatalkingface · 2 years
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"What does Izuku think about that?"
god now that you mention it, ever since the war arc, Izuku has just had zero introspection, huh? I mean, his entire quirkless past was erased the second he got into UA, but this really is the nail in the coffin
Pretty much.
I've said it before, but while this has been happening for awhile now, it's been in gradual, incremental amounts: the frog on a pan, in other words, where the change is so slow you don't notice the change.
The War Arc is where they threw out the pan and dumped the frog straight into the fire.
Before, Izuku has been slowly whittled away, with focus moving from him, and we accepted that because, well, it should, in a big story like this. We can't have a good look at other characters and what they think if every second is all Izuku, right? It still returned back to his POV at the end of the day, so largely no one thought much about the fact that even though the focus returned to Izuku, it wasn't always about Izuku. Back then, it was mostly Bakugou, because this is about when Izuku and his thoughts won't fit with the narrative being pushed, and that was mostly about Bakugou and his story and making him tolerable, despite how he was acting and what he's done in the past, though I'd like to point out I don't think Izuku ever got to react to Shoto interning with his father that first time? We see Shoto's argument, we see the logic of, 'yeah, I can learn a lot about him', but we never get any arguments from the other side, saying that you don't have to forgive him, when not too long he was saying, 'accept your fire as your fire, not your father's', and the obvious conflict in that in learning to use his fire exactly like his father's.
(And, oh, I know he's there to learn about how to be a hero from his abusive father, whose job of being a hero was the primary reason of the abuse in the first place, and don't think I don't notice the irony there, but if you don't think that Shoto, who is only now learning how to use his fire, isn't going to pick up ideas on how to use his fire from the man he's interning under, who he is following around as he fights people, a man who can only use fire, then I don't know what to tell you.)
Regardless, after the war we barely ever see Izuku's thoughts, and that's likely because there's so many things he can't be allowed to think about, to tell Hori's new story. Not just Bakugou, and him just... reverting back to the old days, and somehow calling up the rest of the class to back him up to attack their friend, but so many other things. How is Izuku supposed to think about Hawks infiltrating the League that doesn't have some negative slant to it? Or about Dabi, and the fact that Endeavour was even worse than he already thought? Or Lady Nagant, who was actively assassinating people as part of her job as a hero, all under the direction of those who control so much what being a hero even is in their society?
The thing is, there's no way to make a good, logical thought process for anyone for any of these things, much less for a deep thinker like Izuku, that doesn't have any critical elements to it. There's no way to think about it that doesn't say that Bakugou made Izuku's life hell and it was deeply fucked up, and he's never had a true reckoning for that, or that Endeavour was a horrible person and parent who systematically abused his entire family until it shattered, and didn't care, or even notice, until he had achieved his dreams of Number One and found it empty, or that heroic society at its core has been corrupted by greed, glamourization and fame and is more and more losing the connection with the roots of saving people, and that the system they protect is making the very villains they fight.
And while he introduced these elements in the first place, Hori has reached a point in the story where he can't have those, can't let Bakugou, Endeavour, or heroic society as a whole have their honor besmirched by these facts any more than the most shallow of levels. And so we can't just can't have Izuku think about them, making them seem even worse, and when Bakugou and Endeavour are ever more in focus to glorify their heroic natures, and heroes as a whole being shown as a shining example of Goodness and Righteousness?
Then Izuku just isn't allowed to think.
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bakugoxconsquences · 5 months
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how is izuku not deaf, I mean he had the living breathing howitzer bomb tormenting him everyday and using his quirk on sooo how ?
The real answer is plot armor and the fact Horikoshi didn't think that far when making B@kubitch a bully.
I know other people have theories. There are some good fics about the middle school being a recruitment spot for the meta liberation army, so they had a school nurse with a healing quirk. Or Izuku is deaf and hides it really well.
When I was reading, I chalked it up to evolution, and quirks appearing overing night 100 years ago made human bodies adapt to a lot of thing really quickly.
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cryiling · 2 months
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i see a lot of people headcanon that bakugo loves horror movies, meanwhile deku is a huge scaredycat/crybaby towards them. BUT actually i think it would be very funny if it was the other way around
SO. headcanoning that bakugo really fucking hates horror movies. NOT because he's. scared or anything what r u talking about. haha definitely not. but do not turn that shit on anywhere near him or he will fucking kill u
meanwhile deku USED to be afraid of horror movies. but then he decided that in order to get over his fear of them, he was gonna watch a bunch of behind the scenes for them to see how the movies were actually made and to be less scared when watching them. and then he became a HUGE horror movie nerd. he LOVES breaking down how the practical effects work and identifying them on screen when watching. jumpscares don't bother him anymore, he's too busy nerding out about the behind the scenes stuff and analyzing how all the different effects are working seamlessly together to make the horror movie effective
deku loves dragging bakugo to see new horror movies or forcing him to sit and watch them at home together, he's always really excited to analyze the effects and camerawork of the movies. bakugo only (barely) tolerates it because he just looks away during all the "scary" parts and concentrates on deku's mumbling to distract himself from the movie
deku: no kacchan it's actually so cool how they did this shot!! they only had one take so they had to position all the camera equipment perfectly and there's a whole bunch of hidden triggers and the visual perspective makes the intensity of the shot SO much more effective and blah blah blah-
bakugo, face buried in deku's shoulder and very much avoiding looking at the screen: turn this off immediately or i will explode ur face
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