#BUT im REALLY LIKING this so far but esp want to put emphasis on my Original Idea

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Who would you think is a good nemsis/rogues list for the new nightforce?

before i answer this Seriously, i want to be VERY clear that the In-Universe answer that EVERY single kid will give you is a unanimous “Winters is our Nemesis” and if someone tries to counter with “wasn’t he the one who brought you all together tho?” they’ll get a very sharp “and what about it?” in return

Shadowriders! im definitely keeping them as a longer-running/recurring nuisance while the team is in its early stages of development! they’ve got some untapped plot potential imo, so i’m trying to explore ‘em from a few angles to see what i like!

Fauna Faust! (yes i know she’s died like, pre52, and obviously in Daughter of Darkness too but like hear me out) She’s next gen, her brother is supposed to be a Good Guy™, her dad’s a Recognizable Name. also i’m a sucker for same gen villains (is she in the same gen as them actually? eh fuck it, she is now.)

actually speaking of Same Gen, let’s take it another step. any of yall remember Teddy from Zee’s solo? (creepy kid with his box of bugs that would swarm on ppl he opened it at?) he’s a one-off but he’s the Night Force’s Problem now. mostly bc i really want everyone yelling ‘what the FUCK, TEDDY’ at him every time. i just lose my shit over that fjlkads;j

Spellbinder (Fay Moffit?) is one i was reminded of while reading thru a list of magic users (there’s really not a whole lot of villainous magic users actually and that is a CRIME i’ve decided). but i saw her in a one-off issue of Birds, so I Just Think She’d Be Neat. (i’ll have to look into her more tho, all i’ve seen so far is some mind-manipulation type powers? idk, More Research Needed)

Got introduced to Queen of Fables thru the HQ cartoon (which is rlly :/ overall tbh. i keep hoping it’ll Do Better but ughhhhhh) BUT. i think she’s got some interesting potential as a revamped villain!! plus if we go the route where she’s already had a run-in with Zatanna/the JLA, it could be neat to spark a vengeance scheme against Zach maybe?

Dr. Fate, but that’s mostly just bc i Hate™ Nabu and want everyone to call him out l m a o

To get to a couple Fun Random ideas too tho:

DEF want to do a one-off of the kids hanging out in the House of Mystery and slowly realizing that it’s the House itself that’s attacking them.

Run-ins with Angels & Demons alike should really go without saying.

Hell, at least a COUPLE adventures with Grandpa Luci and Auntie Maze is a MUST now that i think about it lmao

my friend gave me a whole Spiel™ about the difference btwn supernatural creatures vs cryptids (it comes down to how magic vs science-based they could Potentially be, and how ingrained they are in traditional vs modern folklore) and anyways im OBSESSED with the idea of Traci being VEHEMENTLY against them going up against either type of creature bc she n her dad already Had their Handful of Scooby-Doo Adventures, but NOPE. GUESS WHAT KIDDO. YOURE DOIN IT AGAIN WITH UR MAGIC FRIENDS TOO.

yes this means that they’re gonna track Mothman, Buzzfeed Unsolved style. Zach’s gonna be posting tiktoks the whole time abt it and Raven’s just BARELY maintaining her sanity when they finally do spot Something in the sky “LOOK! ITS A MOTH. ITS A MAN! ITS-”

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No pls I love rants on music, especially vocal techniques (had a couple of classes, quit because of life in general, most of my expertise is on the piano side anyway), and would really, seriously love to hear your thoughts on the members vocals (although I do understand that this is time consuming to do) just wanted to say that there's no need to apologise for ranting, we all wanna hear you speak anyways :)

sorry this took forever to respond to! akdjf youve went to more vocal technique classes than i have so maybe you might know more than me ahaha! tbh i really want to formally learn vocal pedagogy so i know what im listening for and what im not. like having that professional opinion alongside telling me ‘ur wrong’ or ‘ur right’ i really want that so i can solidify my learning in a sense…ive been doing that kind of through youtube videos and stuff but still idk. omg ur a pianist? please i love you automatically now <33 i have a weakness for pianists/pianos. i taught myself but i cant play anything higher than yiruma level difficulty rip haha so i always find it amazing to watch pianists play!! i love watching their hands its so pretty…anywho…i’ll post my thoughts on what i think under the cut…but im not a professional so def take this with a grain of salt (like lots of grains of salt) OH THOUGH kpopvocalanalysis is planning on analyzing sm and sk formally in the near future and theyre professionals with college degrees and like i trust them a lot probably the most accurate/consistent analysis ppl ive seen so yeah what they say will go above allso idk why but i’ll probably just summarize in units? and like maybe short comments about each member or more than one member or something idk. under a readmore bc it got longwarning: i am no way, shape and or form a professional. 

hht: im going to start with hht…tbh i have another name for hht haha its called ‘baritone team’ alsdkjf isnt it a coincidence (not really) that all of svts baritones ended up in hht…thus is the fate of most baritones in kpop sadly :( they either get pushed to subvocal or to the rapper position even if its not what they want initially bc of their like natural (basically) biological disposition of not being able to hit, with the same kind of ease, high notes that tenors can…like tbh tenors cant hit those notes ½ the time either but its less obvious bc theyre tenors…that made no sense lasdj…in relating to current events though heres a classic example of baritone (vn) vs tenor (sk) singing in basically the same high note range but vn has to go into falsetto while sk is trying to mix up there…both of them arent really singing it well (laskdj fmaybe sk is a bad example bc he has a good approach to his voice…but like nonetheless that isnt a healthy sounding note from either of them) but its less obvious with sk bc hes a tenor and more obvious with vn (well maybe the falsetto vs mix also had to do with it but like idk a bari who would want to mix that high ljldkajf). anyways in terms of technique, no one in hht team particularly stands out. All of them tend to either sing with their throat or sing with lots of air in their voice, which isn’t particularly healthy but also to be expected from rappers. tbh rappers i find tend to be more throaty, i think why in this group they also are airy is because of wz lol and his vocal directing. within the entire group though (like not just hht), ww has my fav vocal color and i tend to think from within hht, he has the most potential to become a decent vocalist. its mostly (like 95%) because of his continual expressed desire in singing (it makes me think that when he does actually get proper vocal lessons he would take them very seriously and be very disciplined about it and tbh that just goes above everything else) but also because of that one performance of city escape (here) ? and it sounds really pretty and the range that he’s singing in that song is starting to be in the higher part of a baritones register too. and in some of his other vocal performances too, whenever he is in the range where he doesn’t have to mix, his approach to his voice really isnt bad at all. i say he has the most potential but that doesnt mean the other hht members cant become awesome vocalists they can if they put the right time and effort into it. pt:the rest of the units are composed of all tenors (at least from what i know) btw so yeah all of pt are tenors. again in terms of technique no one particularly stands out. they all seem to approach singing similarly but with putting emphasis on different things which makes them sound different….actually upon closer inspection most of the members of the entire group (not just pt) are like that laksjdl….well maybe with the exception of sk. anywho…jh pushes air a lot which is why you get those like ‘hiccups’?? idk how else to describe it but an example is here. like do u hear how his voice rises at the end of a lot of those notes? hs also gets those same hiccups. jh is also quite nasal, and probably the most nasally member within the 13 members when it comes to singing. nasally voices are my number one pet peeve rip thats why my fav jh singing moments is when hes singing in his comfortable range and esp when its words/syllables that force him to place his voice not so much in his nose (ie this part in my i). being nasal is not really as damaging for the vocal chords as much as it is the individual not really placing the voice in the correct, most optimal place. he also gets really tight on higher notes esp when hes trying to mix that high. same with hs (you can hear the both of them sounding tight in the habit perf i linked to earlier). also jh has tongue tension but im not sure if thats a reflection of him trying to sing in kr…him and hao are probably at a disadvantage when it comes to singing because of the fact that they aren’t singing in a language that theyre comfortable in/fluent in. when it comes to hao, when he said in the seasons greetings video that he was working on singing but no matter how much he practiced, he couldnt improve, that made me really sad :( because that basically means is that the vocal lessons he is getting arent actually good vocal lessons…unless he expects results to happen in a week (which sadly no it takes months upon months). ur vocal chords are a muscle so they take time to develop (like when u first go to the gym u arent going to try and lift the heaviest weight right? or run at the fastest speed or whatever u have to build urself up to that slowly). and then he also compared that to his dancing which he said he could get better at by doing over and over? but its the same when it comes to dancing like u cant be improving dancing if u learn the wrong choreo or the wrong ways to dance a specific type of dance right? like no matter how much u practice a wrong choreo its still going to be that wrong choreo…so if u sing with bad technique no matter how much u practice u arent going to get better u’ll just develop bad technique. but yeah singing with correct technique should yield some results eventually (i can attest to that). anyways im biased and i really want to hear hs get proper vocal lessons bc i find his vocal color sooo pretty i literally listen to campfire like 90%for his part in the chorus (and the other 10% is cheols rap aldjsf)….i also think he hovers around being able to support or maybe its my biased ears talking who knwos… i didnt really talk about dn but hes kind of along the same lines…maybe a bit more dependent on his throat than some of the other members in pt…which kind of makes sense bc thats what rappers tend to dovt: ok js and wz are both similar in how they approach singing i think its kind of obvious too with how much they sound alike at times. oh yeah wz probably has the highest vocal range within the group idt anyone in the group can go higher than him (not that it really matters when it comes to vocal technique but its a neat tidbit of info). jh for one has a lot of tongue tension (just like jn) when he sings and is kinda nasal (not as much as jn but still there). just like the rest of the other members in the other units, these three dont support either. we can finally talk about support when we talk about sm…although his supported range isnt too much he does have that basic down…he gets super throaty though when hes outside his supported range. he does that same hiccup thing that hs/jn do. he hasn’t shown the ability to resonate but at least he can support.  despite singing a lot of the groups high notes, he hasnt developed a connected head voice, as far as im aware of. technique wise hes really similar to a lot of the main vocalists in groups that debut these days. but ok NOW SK aka the member who has the best vocal technique. he supports consistently and he has resonance too its so beautiful and wonderful to listen to like esp since a lot of kpop group vocalists that debut these days for some reason dont really want to resonate. its so nice to listen to his voice. like hes fooling around here but still manages (what i think is) a resonant F#4? (not the high note he holds out, its like the note he sings before he slides up) and if that note isnt resonant then it is at the very least supported very very very nicely. heres a really pretty g4. tbh i really want to hear him start trying to conquer the fourth octave like what a good day itd be if i could say ‘yeah sk can sing up to b4s with good technique’ like thats kind of hard to do but definitely attainable! and he has the potential for sure! i think within the fandom hes really quite overlooked for some odd reason that i cant seem to figure out why. he definitely has the healthiest voice, at least his mixed register for sure. he seems to prefer mixing over head voice for whatever reason when it comes to high notes so honestly speaking i havent paid much attention to his head voice but i wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt connected considering how much he doesnt sing in it…but tbh the fact that he mixes pretty decently is amazing in it of itself. CONCLUSION: with proper vocal guidance and technique ANYONE can become a decent singer.