#BTTWS and it’s not even close

[rainbowdaisy13]

Anyone wanna chime in? I don’t remember her specifically addressing these songs but I do remember there being discourse on BTTWS possibly being written for her close friend who had lost a child. She never addressed Ivy either which always floors me that no one cared

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No like literally the only people that clocked what Taylor is actually saying with her whole chest in Labyrinth was Kaylor Tumblr somehow even though it's so clearly related to what Taylor's saying with BTTWS and Robin, and like the only non-Gaylor/Kaylors that clocked ivy were like amateur poets and musicians doing reacts to ivy on YouTube and all the girlies who watched Dickinson on Apple TV+ 🤦🏼‍♀️

Incredible

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[bisluthq]

People speculating on the inspiration behind Forever Winter and Bigger Than The Whole Sky is verrryyy weird to me. She has been evasive about those two songs for what I feel to be a pretty obvious reason, yet I have still seen people drawing conclusions about her life based on how they relate to it.

A lot of people related BTTWS to their miscarriages and couldn't grasp that Taylor might not have written it about that and therefore assumed that she must of had one, or that one of her friends must of had one.

I also have seen people try to definitively state that FW was about her friend who passed away and like... I'm sorry, but the unfortunate truth of the matter is that more than one person can experience mental health issues, and most of us know more than one person who has experienced those things. We have no idea who Taylor wrote that song about because IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. This is not a Dear John situation where she's giving us breadcrumbs in the direction of John Mayer's doorstep. Clearly she didn't want people to know.

I disagree quite profoundly because FW is very clearly about her very close friend who killed himself and she was like devastated about - makes sense that she didn’t release it back then because she was devastated and mourning her friend and as I said she’s a Slytherin.

BTTWS is also quite clearly about a miscarriage. Claire had one recently and maybe it’s about that or maybe Taylor had one idk what’s going on in Taylor’s womb and THAT is something she should never ever ever have to share with the class if she doesn’t want to but also if in any way true it isn’t surprising her relationship didn’t last and that she was unhappy. Like I think it’s mostly about Claire but also Midnights is hella autobiographical so idk. It’s *very clearly* about losing a baby tho.

both songs - unlike like Wildest Dreams and Slut! and even IWYW which is manifestation not reality - are the diaristic kind of Taylor songs imo. She makes a lot of stuff up and embellishes and stuff but those two songs are about things that took place irl to people she loved.

[tolerateit]

Have we ever connected Bigger Than the Whole Sky to WCS? I was listening to both back to back and had a thought..

She says “I’m never gonna meet what could’ve been would’ve been should’ve been you”

And in WCS “god rest my soul/ I miss who I used to be/ the tomb won’t close” also “give me back my girlhood it was mine first”

WCS has death/religious mentions and BTTWS also talks about mourning the loss of someone either through death or a breakup….

So I thought what if in BTTWS she is singing about mourning the person she could’ve been, the girl and woman she would’ve turned out to be if she didn’t take that path with those men who traumatized her and ruined and stole her girlhood?

Like you know when you’re young and have all those dreams for the woman you’ll become in the future, and then when you’re old you feel like you lost her and lost your old self too and couldn’t safe both and now you don’t even recognize yourself.

Some food for the brain.

YES YES YES I've been driven insane by the religious parallels between these songs because if wcs comes first in the narrative, bttws grapples with not having enough faith to make said girlhood stay

[sheerioswifties]

Sorry I'm gonna post all my Bejeweled video easter egg theories but... I can't stop thinking about Bigger Than The Whole Sky. And I looked to see what others are saying and it seems like a lot aren't getting what story is being told I mean then again like Taylor has said and is always the case with her music we all make it our own I mean all her heartbreak and breakup songs I apply to my abusive family so I get how many are taking BTTWS and applying it to general grief or heartbreak or sadness over the person one never was able to become... I've also seen some good applications to movie and TV characters (can I just say the TIMING of this song release and the HOTD finale has me WRECKED). But this one like I just... it's hard. Bc this is a thing that is so painful, at least from my perspective so much more than broken relationships or melancholy over lost childhood innocence etc. And this has me thinking of Taylor in another light, where my heart truly not just breaks but bleeds for her while also admiring her for her strength and how she just. How she's gotten through things. And what else has she gone through that we don't even know about... I just. It's hard because there are some things in life that you need amazing support systems to get through, you need people there for you that are more, more than just friends and family, I don't know how to explain that but like when I look at it in the context of the rest of the album especially anti hero, I worry like... did she have those kind of really close people there for her, and really THERE for her, deeply and sincerely, when she needed that? When she needed the big celebrity aura that surrounds her pushed aside and to just have people that love and care for HER there... idk how to word this to make sense. But again I also- she is so incredibly strong and I know she's also been trying to hide her times of sadness and vulnerability and this album puts a lot of it out there finally and she's so AMAZING for that but again what other demons might she be battling... bottom line I just really hope she knows deep in her heart how much she truly is loved and cared about, as herself, not just as THE Taylor Swift, you know? That she's not too big to be able to have those things... @taylorswift if you see this please just know that. And please also know that your bravery in continuing to share things like this put beautifully into song form becomes art that comforts SO MANY people who are going through or have gone through things, including and especially this. We're here with you, alongside you, we got you, we love you, we support you, and not because you're a sparkly celebrity- because you are the wonderful, funny, clever, deep, insightful, kind, loving, caring, dorky, cat loving, strong, empowered, inspiring and amazing YOU. ♡

[vangirl3]

I redownloaded tumblrjust to say my wild theory. The song has got to be about a miscarriage. I’m not saying Taylor had one. BUT we all know someone who’s had a miscarriage. Maybe it was you? I’m wondering if in their large group of very close friends, someone offered to be group one of the friends’ surrogate? Because who’d guess that?! Maybe Blake Lively chose to be a surrogate. It’s a wild thought. But that’s how close and beautiful I see some people being. Bttws is so painfully beautiful. I spent the weekend doing nothing but listening to Midnights. I didn’t even know we had a video for antihero! It’s been an awful couple months in my family. “Money is at the root of all evil” It is! Because it gets exhausting if always needing needing!! Weird turn byeee! Love love love ALL of this new era. All of it!!!

[rainbowdaisy13]

Hey, what has Taylor told the public about songs like "Labyrinth" and "Bigger Than the Whole Sky"? Has she said anything yet about "Robin"? Or is she just presenting these highly sus songs without comment?

I mean, even if they have a Taylor TM explanation, they are...pretty loud. IMO

Anyone wanna chime in? I don’t remember her specifically addressing these songs but I do remember there being discourse on BTTWS possibly being written for her close friend who had lost a child. She never addressed Ivy either which always floors me that no one cared

[sheerioswifties]

Okay I- I saw the post from Claire that uh kinda confirms theories that BTTWS may be about a close friend having a m*scarriage and it all makes sense and Claire even quotes it and my heart HURTS for her I mean I've been there both ways too I've also been the friend up all night while someone very close to me went through it and also a very premature birth it's all gutwrenching (and side note I almost wanted to warn my friend not to listen to BTTWS bc it's heartbreaking but the more I listen to it the more I see how actually perfectly and beautifully Taylor put it which I can go on about in another post but) I just- it- it's still bothering me- that she uses the phrase "could've been, would've been, should've been..." as part of the chorus of that song, a very specific phrase, and then she literally used that phrase as the TITLE of her J**** M**** song (do we have a calcium harvest like name for that asshole yet?)... but so like- she never does ANYTHING like that unintentionally. That's too much of a coincidence for those songs not to be somehow connected and it is BOTHERING me it's legitimately kept me up at midnight pondering what is going on it just. It bothers me. I love Taylor. I love Claire. So much pain and heartache I just sgstfisostsotsotsost