#BI DEAN PARALLELS ALWAYS GET A PASS!!!!

[astudyinfreewill]

so anyway i’ve just watched 15x07 ‘last call’ and i just. i knew it was the karaoke episode but was nobody going to prepare me for the fact that it is yet another example of the show drawing a direct parallel between sam’s (female) love interest and dean’s (male) ~good buddy~?

like. dean literally leaves sam and eileen (welcome back queen!! <3) alone at the bunker, hungover from a night of joyously drinking margaritas together, with the clear implication that he expects them to keep “reconnecting” and, well: have sex. an implication that is later reinforced by eileen suggesting they do something fun and saying she has “a few ideas” (ONLY FOR THEM TO GET COCKBLOCKED BY CAS STORMING IN AND ASKING WHERE DEAN IS. SORRY SAMUEL BUT PAYBACK’S A BITCH. HOW D’YA LIKE THEM APPLES)

...meanwhile dean takes off and ends up at a bar called swayze’s. i’m sure other people must have pointed this out but i really don’t think that’s a coincidence-- you know, patrick swayze, of “swayze movie. swayze always gets a pass” fame? which, sure, is a line dean throws at sam to justify his quoting a “chick flick” -- when we know the truth is that dean quite simply just likes chick flicks -- but as far as justifications go, isn’t all that great, because it implies that chick flicks with patrick swayze are fine and “get a pass” because... what, because he’s hot? because dean finds him attractive so he makes an “exception” to his Macho Hetero Man rules?? real subtle, boy. reeeeeeeal subtle.

THE POINT IS dean ends up at swayze’s and he runs into a hot waitress who visibly hits on him. you might think this is the parallel with sam/eileen. and hey, we know dean loves frisky women, right? except it doesn’t quite work. not only because dean, though flattered and somewhat interest, doesn’t really go for it, choosing instead to stay focused on the case; but also because there’s no emotional connection there, not like there is between sam and eileen. you know who he does have an emotional connection with, though? lee.

that’s right-- dean runs into his old good buddy lee from a decade ago, and they, well. reconnect. and this is what gets distracted from the case, at least for a time. they start getting drunk together. they chat to the waitress, lorna, but neither of the men hits on her, and she seems to have stopped hitting on dean. they talk about john (cue: dean’s tight smile) and how he once caught them “wasted on a hunt” (were they just getting wasted? i wonder...). last they saw each other, sam was away at college. and we know dean did go on hunts on his own, with john leaving him to his own devices (sidenote: john telling lee he was the best fighter he’d seen?? right in front of dean’s salad?? fucking choke). i just... there’s so much in those empty spaces that we don’t get to see, when dean doesn’t have to perform masculinity for john or sam, and he’s allowed to interact with other men and touch them, maybe with the excuse of danger and violence, maybe with the excuse of alcohol, but maybe not -- swayze always gets a pass, and maybe he’s not the only one.

dean and lee also get up on stage and sing karaoke together, something dean hasn’t done since the time he was a demon and allegedly free of all shame. you know what else dean did when he was a demon? had an orgy with crowley and some triplets. and what does he bring up when talking to lee? they fact that they had sex with triplets and “shared fair and square”. like???? like!!!!! i feel like i’m going insane here what’s all this then. is this some complicated code? about how dean will only have sex with men if there’s triplets or twins involved? what does that tell us about the cartwright twins from scoobynatural?? (what does that tell us about endverse-- no wait that’s a whole other bucket of fish) is he literally going by the lonely island rules of “it’s not gay if it’s in a three-way”? is that what this is???

wild. WILD this show is w i l d !!!! 

(even wilder is the fact that dean’s time reconnecting with lee ends up being more significant than the time sam spends reconnecting with eileen because as i mentioned cas shows up, cockblocks them, decides to fuck around [by probe the god wound] and promptly finds out [by accidentally destroying sam’s soul, again], blackmails a shady healer into helping, gets fucked over, re-fucks him over by threatening his niece, gets sam’s soul back, and still has time to have awkward “oh no we just broke up but still love each other” tension with dean when he comes back. CHAOS IS STORED IN THE GAY ANGEL)

[basilhearsanoise]

pleaseee elaborate on your homophobic sam take. it’s very compelling. i always thought sam’s early plotline with the demon blood was a queer allegory, but your explanation for his attitude towards dean’s bisexuality makes a lot of sense now that i think about it

WOW I'M A REAL SUPERNATURAL BLOG NOW YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THIS MADE MY DAY I WILL ABSOLUTELY ELABORATE THANK YOU

there are So Many Layers i probably won't even be able to get them all down but here's some major ones. from the get-go, sam is The Opposite of dean on so many issues, and essentially throughout the show they flip. this is most notably demonstrated by the fact that sam starts out as a Devout Christian (or at least we are to assume that he is christian given his approach to prayer, god, angels, etc) and by the end of the show sam is completely and utterly devoid of faith. whereas dean is like If There's A God In Heaven, What's He Waiting For? - Elton John.mp3 in the beginning of the show, and by the end he's like "i have faith in humanity, in spirituality, in CASTIEL, in MY SON JACK," by the end. but this is just one of the MANY issues they flip back and forth on, or just slowly and surely change their perspectives to be more like the way the other brother started.

1. should we tell people there are monsters? dean says "we can't tell anyone they exist the whole world will panic" vs. sam says "they have a RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE"

but also. are all monsters evil? dean says "yes, they kill innocent people and they killed my mother and destroyed my life, they ALL deserve to die" but sam says "SOME of them must be good....it's not THEIR FAULT they're disgusting, evil and eat people uwu"

monsters/cryptids/spirits/folklore etc have virtually always been, in some way shape or form, a queer allegory themselves. the shapeshifter arc spoke to me as a trans person on a deep personal level. dracula was essentially racist propaganda. so if we take this allegory to supernatural, and say, "acceptance of monsters = acceptance of queerness" dean's hatred of them is a hatred of himself, his own inner monster, his own internalized homophobia - in addition to the fact that because he IS a queer man who has been VICTIM to REAL VIOLENT homophobia before, it would make sense that he is #antifa #acab #kill all the nazis forever #don't waste time trying to make monsters good when you could save good people from them instead. which is like. a reasonable response to have to a group of people that systematically try to kill you. but that also makes sam's "oh pity the monster dean, don't kill it, FORGIVE, JUST GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO ~ REPENT ~ THEIR SINS" ....like, even in later seasons he is saying stuff like this, and while it's true that dean SHOULD forgive some of the monsters that sam says this about, it still reads to me as two major red flags of 1. forgive your abusers to be the better person and 2. "hate the sin, not the sinner" rhetoric. sam doesn't actually give a shit about any of these monsters he gives a shit about keeping his own ideological purity. he sounds like scary youth pastors i had as a child.

this is further demonstrated by the fact that as dean becomes more accepting of his sexuality as the show goes on, he becomes more accepting of monsters. that's benny's ENTIRE EXISTENCE AS A CHARACTER: "i accept this vampire because he is honorable, and manly, and looks really fuckin cute in suspenders." that's also why sam hates benny so much even though he's the one who's been like "but monsters can be good T__T" this whole time. what the fuck other reason would he have to hate benny so much?

this is also CLEARLY the ENTIRE subtext of the Demon Dean arc - Sam FLIPS OUT about him going off with crowley because he could FORGIVE one little crush on an angel, because of the fact that he's an angel, and also because dean wasn't "shoving his unholy lifestyle down everyone's throats" but demon dean is....loudly, angrily, gay. demon dean is a manifestation of all the gayness that dean has suppressed his whole life and now he's "too indecent" for sam. this is FURTHER demonstrated by the fact that crowley literally yells at dean to "pick a side" after demon dean sides with the slighted wife in a demon deal instead of the cheating husband, literally because of the fact that the husband says "men are just supposed to sleep around" and dean gets so mad about this sexism that he kills him.

this is dean not only rejecting sexism more than sam literally ever actually does in the show (everything he says about it reads to me as idle posturing Fake Woke Shit whereas dean is a sleazebag, but he's an Equal Opportunity sleazebag) but also his rejection of being pigeonholed as gay when he is, indeed, bisexual. crowley represents the biphobia that gay people enact on bi people, sam represents the homophobia that straight people enact on all queer people.

this brings me to the next part of sam's Not Niceness - he's like, actually 100% more misogynistic than dean is. i know i'm Not A Woman but like i am trans, queer, and not dumb. sam is a fucking sadist serial killer man who treats women like garbage the SECOND they are no longer useful to him, this is most clearly demonstrated when he doesn't have a "soul" but it existed in him basically from the get-go, he is painted as the "more emotionally mature one" but that reading became so inaccurate the show literally started making fun of his character for thinking that sappy fake shit could pass as sincere care for another human being. dean actually talks to women like they're people with feelings. he routinely identifies with the victims and is paralleled against them, especially if they are victims of childhood sexual assault. sam does not talk to women unless they serve some kind of purpose to his goals and is much more routinely depicted weirdly enjoying killing enemies that are women. sometimes not even for plot reasons, it's just weird shots that nobody thought to red flag because this show is. A MESS.

anyway. another example is the one that i mentioned in the post about the confederate soldier, the fact that sam is fucking racist and dean is at least, within the narrative, less racist.

ANYWAY, THERE'S STILL MORE I COULD TALK ABOUT BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THIS: sam is constantly telling dean that he's not being sensitive or poltically correct but every single time it comes off sounding like a straight person telling an actual gay person how not to be homophobic. like, please, sammy, touch grass. dean says: touch grass, kill nazis.

[doctorprofessorsong]

*holds the mic and considers* hey, uh, my question is for @doctorprofessorsong ? Big fan. What character from spn do you think Doctor River Song would get along with best and why? *passes mic*

Oh this is such a great question and I apologize in advance because I have thoughts. 😆

So, the obvious answer is Dean. Obviously. River and Dean are the same character. Let's look at the parallels:

Both lost their parents at a young age (River was kidnapped, Dean's entire life was disrupted by his mother's murder)

Both were raised by an abusive parental figure. Both were raised to be a weapon.

Both use humor and bravado to cope with trauma and self worth issues

Both are bi

Both have no hesitation to do what it takes to protect the ones they love.

Both have a strong personal moral code that doesn't always align with objectively "good" in the story

Both are hot (hehe)

And here's the best one. Both fell in love with an immortal, alien being who doesn't gender and who is utterly indifferent to human sexuality and who they believe could not possibly love them back despite it being completely obvious to anyone with eyes that they are loved.

Ok, so they should be besties, right? Nope. Too alike. Plus River wouldn't let Dean wear hats. It's a no go.

What about Sammy? Oh that poor guy would be absolutely smitten with Professor Song but she would pat him on the cheek and leave him behind.

I am so tempted to say Rowena, because River likes an evil bitch. They would be hilarious and amazing together until they double crossed each other at the same time.

And I think she would be protective over Jack while denying it completely.

But the question is who does she like best. Are you ready?

Bela Talbot

No question. River likes to steal artifacts based on her own opaque moral code which I think is a combination of: that person is awful and doesn't deserve nice things and that artifact is pretty. This is a woman who once married a diamond.

Bela's story about doing what she had to in order to protect herself would resonate strongly. And River would respect the way Bela found out about the supernatural and turned it to her advantage.

By the time the hellhound showed up, River would be there with a gun and her time vortex manipulator.

The two would team up and the universe would know what hit it.

If I weren't buried in my DCBB fic right now . . . . Please somebody write this.

[supertransural]

supernatural made me realize a bunch of shit about myself, specifically identity and it’s part of the reasons why i think it’s an inherently queer story.

allow me to clarify. once upon a time, 6 years ago, i found supernatural. back then i was mostly in the closet, even to myself. i’d gotten to that point of “hah wouldn’t it be nice to be like guys on tv and kiss the pretty girls” but not much further than that, because in most of the movies i had watched with my parents, the personality of the guy wasn’t really explored in the way supernatural (mostly unintentionally ngl) does with its characters.

so picture a teen, finding my first tv show to watch alone, being able to think my very own comments about it and not fear any repercussions from those thoughts because hey, i’m alone in my room i can think what i like about what i’m seeing. and feeling.

and here enters dean. complicated, comes from a rough childhood, parental expectations weighing so heavy on him it’s bleeding through his smiles, has a brother he feels is his duty to protect, is stuck in a loop of denial repression depression sublimation denial repression depression sublimation den-

you get the gist. i related to that guy. and then here he goes getting bi-coded (didn’t know what that was at the time but looking back, i could sure as hell feel it) and then kissing girls on screen, despite his wavering self-confidence. little ol’ gay me was like “yoooo i relate to this character on most of his character points, do i also relate to like..... wanting to do what he does??? do i wanna kiss other girls????”. fast forward one season and i’ve already figured out i was maybe bi. literally thanks to season 1 dean.

so, having figured out this “minor” aspect of myself, i went on youtube to find some other people like me and try to see if i was right to be homophobic towards myself or not. figured out, hey uh, definitely not. so you can also add “it ended up making me try to put a stop to my internalized homophobia” on the list of things that shitpost of a show helped me with.

i went back to the show for another season, relating even more to dean, and “blah blah blah queer coded character blah blah blah gay me could feel it before i knew what it was blah blah blah happy gay stuff”. several seasons passed by before anything new came up on my “hm this show rly out here bringing out all the queer aspects of myself huh” journey, but anyways i was still slowly but surely thinking holy shit i wanna be this goddamn man i want to be dean.

then comes season 4, walzing into my questioning little heart. oof ok, this season hit ALL the right spots for me. because i could feel what was going on between cas and dean and even though everything was still blurry as fuck, the parallel between sam/ruby and dean/cas was clear as day. and i was like “oh so you’re saying there’s a love here and it’s like that tarnished love between sam and ruby and it’s forbidden so that’s why we’re not seeing it and it’s like... gay”. so it made me realize “holy shit, i wanna see more gay content, and it’s ok to want that.”

then cas became another extremely relatable character, because i just kept thinking “he doesn’t really have a gender the same way other humans do” and i shit you not, he started me questioning my own gender. because again, a relatable character that you somewhat identify with that makes you ask questions about their identity INEVITABLY makes you ask questions about yourself. queue me going on youtube yet again to understand this shit a little better. i went through a few months of thinking “maybe i’m nb”, joined a few more gay communities on the internet, started learning about lgbtq+ things, watched a few more gay shows, and basically just grew a little more into my queerness.

fasforward several seasons, a couple gap years where i stopped watching it, and you’ll get to me a year ago. i thought i was a gay woman, fairly happy in that mental space and identity. but then. the whole “i wanna be dean” thing came up a lot again. because he just kept on being more and more visibly queer coded as i kept on learning more about this shit.

lo and behold, i jumped straight into the idea i was trans. and wouldya look at dat, i was right. quarantine happened, so i had to get even more of my interactions through online platforms, and quite obviously hovered around the gayer ones, or at least the lgbtq+ sides of them. and as i kept watching the show on and off, binging the first seasons for the 4th time, i kept learning more and more about myself. and those acts of gay frenzy were always started by seeing something relatable or strange in that show and looking it up. like, legitimately every time.

i found this community on tumblr a few weeks ago because i was tired of having my own little hypotheticals in my head and not knowing if anyone agreed, and the more i’ve been here the more i’ve learned about myself. the more i’ve let go of a lot of internalized hatred. the more i’ve been really ok with myself, as a trans guy. BUT ITS NOT FINISHED YET.

because, as we all know, it is common understanding here that dean is bi. WELL, i’ve been re-binging the show with that mindset finally clear in my head, and the “haha dean relatable lol” thing came up again, except it was really a “haha dean (who is bi) super relatable lol” thing now. so i paused, yet again, to think about that a little more. AND FIGURED OUT I WASNT STRAIGHT, IM BI AS FUCK.

that happened 1 month ago. i thought i’d grown fully into my queer self, that i’d gone through enough realizations and coming outs (to friends only, god forbid i come out to my parents (unfortunately quite literally god forbid lmao) before i’m out of here) for a lifetime. but apparently not. AND IT WAS STILL BECAUSE OF SUPERNATURAL. destiel and trans!dean fics helped with my internalized transphobia and homophobia, they helped with acceptance of those parts of myself. something that helped was also seeing the fact that shipping two guys in a tv show wasn’t just “being greedy with my grubby little gay hands” and wanting to think of a character as trans wasn’t just “being delusional and ridiculous”. and reading fics wasn’t cringy, it was nice and comforting.

so to try and sum up this unhinged gay rant, what i meant by my initial statement is this.

looking back on this entire self-discovery journey that i went on, it really felt like i was in the impala with the boys, except i was on a different kind of route (just picture this giant road painted in rainbow colors with baby driving at 80mph on it, that’s what it felt like). i grew with those characters, but most importantly i grew THANKS to those characters. their story was queer enough to make me, a fairly homophobic, traditional, conservative kid into a lib trans bi dude. and not in a “i got converted by the fandoms” way. i found the fandom waaaaayyyyyyyy later. i stumbled upon the fandoms looking for answers about this gayass goddamn show that i could FEEL was like me but couldn’t verbalize yet.

their story felt like a queer self discovery story and i could already see that before i went on it myself. no other shows have ever done that for me, and i’ve watched shows that had lgbtq+ characters in them, scripted gay scenes, not just subtext but text. and they still didn’t do that for me.

so this is why this show is so meaningful to be, and incidentally so very gay. like genuinely.

[okpeachwa]

Destiel Theories/Thoughts/Shaky Predictions/Hopes (Trying For Positivity) Part 2

Impala -

This has nothing to do with Destiel, but I am duty-bound to point out:

S15E19 did you the dirtiest, Baby. You deserved a substantial spotlight in that five minute long memory montage. You are just as much a character as any bi-pedal on the show!!

I will riot if Baby is snubbed again in the last episode.

Castiel -

If Cas does get spit out of the Empty, would he avoid Dean? At least for a little bit? I mean I’d be a ball of anxiety if I just confessed and then got dragged to Hell 2.0 before my SO could reply. Even if I was the happiest I’ve ever been.

That is, unless Dean drags Cas’ ass out of there himself, then there’s no avoiding. And it would round out their stories! Cas saved Dean (from hell but also in episode 18 by telling him what a wonderful loving person he is). And then Dean saved Cas (from the Empty but also from living his life as a mindless angel puppet).

Sam -

Eileen has to come back because parallels.

Dean -

I’m not getting my hopes high for any sort of kiss. For me, I don’t really need it. And I think Dean is so emotionally constipated unsure how to express himself that it would be strange to see. I would be content with a good ole Dean monologue of emotion and a forehead touch.

Chuck -

Like other people have already said before me, I’m thinking that Chuck still had control over what happened up until Jack hoovered up his powers.

But I don’t think God really is a big bad. I mean he is, but he isn’t. Let me explain:

Way back in S5E22 and we got the beautiful narration about all the important things. The little things that made the Sam and Dean human. (That whole episode still gives me goosebumps).

Remember how proud Chuck seemed of them and their Impala?

Now think about S13E1 when Dean prayed to Chuck to bring Cas back from the dead. My heart broke watching Dean cry and then smash up his hand on that sign. What if God heard him? What if he already knew that he never gave the Winchester’s the end that they deserved? Because it wasn't time. Not until he could show them the truth about themselves and truly fix all the hurts that had been done that brought them to Stull Cemetery for the epic showdown?

What if the “show” truly did end in season five? The boys passed their test. And now they weren’t just a means to an end or entertainment any longer. They were people. Heroes. The best of humanity. And he planned on rewarding that.

In S15E4 with Becky, Chuck (in super evil mode) talked about the need for a villain. Every good story needs one, right?

My theory (and this one I’m most shaky on) is that Chuck turned himself into the BBEG to give one final thank you to the Winchesters that saved the world(s) he created over and over again.

He knew this was how it was all going to go. Everything. He’s omnipotent. He’s God. It was always the plan. It was always the Winchesters. And when Jack absorbed Amara and Chuck’s powers, I think maybe he understood that about his Grandpa.

Jack, Sam, Dean and Castiel all became what God always hoped for for humanity. They believed in what was most important: family & love. Now they could truly be free.

“No doubt - endings are hard. But then again...nothing ever really ends, does it?”

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk. I needed to get it out before it made me crazy! Would love to hear from you if you have your own theories!

15x20 is on the horizon! Stay positive beautiful clowns! Let’s gooooooo~!

[verobatto]

Destiel Chronicles

Vol. XXXIV

It was a love story from the very beginning

I can see your pain...

(8x08/8x10/8x13)

Hello my friends!! This is another meta from my meta series. Today I'm gonna talk about how Dean starts to see in Cas something is odd, he sees him sad, and depressed, and he begins to be worried about him.

I want to say thank you to my wonderful friend here, @agusvedder , she made the gifs for this meta and discussed the episodes with me.

Castiel's sadness

Knowing Cas from season 7 was depressed, and then that he wanted to stay in Purgatory, gave us a sad idea about how Castiel was feeling.

We are going to talk first about episode 8x08 Hunter Heroici, Dabb's episode.

Cas starts to share more time with their human friends. But he is still kind of clueless about humans, and everything. He's literal with words and human's expression, and that had been the fluel for a lot of jokes in the show.

When Dean and Cas were talking in that gas station, Dean was questioning what Castiel would do now, because it seems he was kind of glued to them. He thought maybe now that they're back on the road, Cas would do the things he used to do, angel's stuffs. But no, he's still there with them. So he had to ask him...

So is evident, Cas don't want to talk about angels, or Heaven, or coming back to Heaven, he's afraid, and ashamed, and it mortifies him. He needs to avoid anything that hot to do with his past, so he decided to stay with his humans friends. And imitate them. Because he sees in Dean and Sam two good humans that help people.

DEAN: So what now? Move to Vermont, open up a charming B&B?

CASTIEL No. I still want – I still need to help people. So... [smiles] I'm gonna become a hunter.

Is so important the switch in the words here... He changed the WANT for the NEED. He needs to hel people. Because he needs to do it, to feel better with himself. To get better from his sadness.

Castiel tries too hard to be a good hunter, but his lack of "humanity" makes it difficult. That's why he fails in everything he tries to do

And there's a little foreshadow hidden in this piece of dialogue... Trying to decipher the case of the man who's heart jumped out of his chest.

SAM: So he stashes his car at the park across the street, meets Olivia there.

DEAN: His wife probably found out about it, and it broke her heart.

SAM: So she breaks his. Sounds witchy.

DEAN: Yes, it does. Guy was living a lie, and it came back to bite him in the ticker. But nice job on the bladder infection.

He broke her heart so she broke his.

If this isn't a a foreshadow for the incoming crypt scene and for the season 9 scene in which Dean kicked off Cas from the bunker, I don't know what it is...

He was living a lie, that's for sure foreshadowing the crypt scene, when Dean will realize what was happening with Castiel.

Let's jump to the big Destiel dialogue now...

CASTIEL Your father... Beautiful handwriting.

DEAN How you feeling, Cas?

CASTIEL I'm fine.

DEAN Well, I just – I – I know that when... I got puked out of Purgatory, it took me a few weeks to... find my sea legs.

CASTIEL I'm fine.

DEAN Don't get me wrong. I'm – I’m happy you're back. I'm – I’m freaking thrilled. It's just this whole mysterious-resurrection thing – it always has one mother of a downside.

Dean is trying to make Cas talk, because he's seeing Cas is avoiding Heaven's topic. And maybe he's trying to get to him, talking about that huge experience they had in Purgatory. Trying to empathize with the angel...

CASTIEL: [closes the journal] So, what do you want me to do?

DEAN: Maybe take a trip upstairs.

CASTIEL: To Heaven?

DEAN: Yeah, poke around, see if the God squad can't tell us how you got out.

CASTIEL: No.

Dean is still feeling there's some piece missing, he needs answers, but he can't see far more... Cas is in pain, and he will know again and right in this scene.

Dean goes for the normal way to look things... Of course, angels would kill Cas, but the truth is worst than that...

Kill himself? Dean is in shock. And Sam is there interrupting.

Cas saw a way out from that conversation, so he ran away towards Sam, but Dean is so in alarm about what Cas had just said, that he can even get up from the bed. And while his brother are talking, he gave a quick glance to Cas... He's worried...

And this episode already gave us a guy with a blue tie, jumping out of the building, commiting suicide.

Acting awkwardly around you

We are still in episode 8x08, I will point two weird attitudes coming from Dean...

The first one is the classis "I'll watch over you."

Is a simple, honest angelical offer to make. Angel watch over humanity. And why not watch over Dean? Why not if Cas is an angel and that's what angels supposed to do.

But Dean takes this as another kind of offer, it makes him uncomfortable, just thinking about Cas standing there, watching him sleep... Is so "creepy" but mostly... Gay.

So he snapped off that idea "That's not gonna happen," making that face that show discomfort, and some kind of stress. He's very conscious about the offer, because he's in love with Castiel.

Then... We had the old lady scene... I found a couple of good points...

OLD WOMAN: You are so pretty, Charles.

(...) DEAN notices an attractive female CARER walk by.

Why is this immediately pointed after a lady calling Castiel pretty? Because Dean is conscious about that too... Cas is pretty, and then a pretty Young lady passed by and Dean goes there. Yeah. No homo. Is just subtext.

CASTIEL: That's not my name.

OLD WOMAN: Oh! You look so much like my third husband.

I don't know if someone already pointed this in the fandom but... Cassie/Lisa... Are one two... And now Castiel is the third for Dean. 🤣🤣🤣

And this one here...

OLD WOMAN Oh, my diamonds, yes. I hid them there. [to CASTIEL] I'm sorry, Charles. I didn't trust you. You were quite the bounder.

Okay... So Charles/Castiel is the binder, this is a funny foreshadow about what Cas would do to Dean... He will break his heart.

Jumping now to episode 8x10 Turn and Frayed

Not mention the scene in which Castiel actually is watching over Dean, I want to talk about the exaggerated and awkward reaction from Dean when CAS is standing behind him, and he opens his laptop, with the "Busty Asian Beauties" on it...

Why is he reacting like that? If Cas is a dude, and the normal reaction between dudes would be just poker face maybe a joke or wherever, but no. He's in front of his crush, people! He's ashamed! He even covers the screen with his hand!! He looks back to see if Cas is watching. He's ashamed because he cares about what As would think. Because he is in love with him. Okay I will repeat this a lot of times during season 8...

And this whole episode here is a parallel to 5x03, Free to be you and me, we even had an intent of date!

And Dean is flirting again, and watching Castiel mouth, then touching his own lips, I mean... This is it. This was another date between them. A hunting date. The whole episode my dears.

Dean is also feeling proud when CAS requested the ingredients list Kevin was writing. Yeah, this is my handsome angel friend, nothing he can't get.

In this episode, Dean and Sam saw Castiel had killed Samandriel, suspecting there was something really bad going on with the way Cas was behaving.

Bi Dean exposition

Episode 8x13 Everybody hates Hitler, written by Edlund, is a big Bi Dean exposition.

Before we will be talking about that, I want to point here, this scene...

Dean is avoiding Sam's gaze, he is like playing with some books, because he needs to make that question as if that was nothing, just a bro, worried about his best bro, so, yeah...

But while he's doing that, is plenty obvious to the audience, he's trying so hard, and he's really worried, and he's ashamed for asking that. Because he was trying to contact Cas and he didn't answer his phone, so he's really, REALLY, worried, and struggling with Castiel's absence.

But now let's talk about how he's bi self was exposed when he met the rabbi's grandson.

You already recall the scene in the restaurant. The guy and Dean exchanged gazes, and the rabbi's grandson flirted with him.

And when Dean went to face him, he got very VERY flustered, and everything was awkward, and he even gave the guy a flirting gaze... Okay... He named that MY GAY THING.

Now... Why is Dean disappointed in this dialogue... (Also, pay attention to the symbolism and the parallel is hidden here...)

BEARDED YOUNG MAN The rabbi who was murdered, Isaac Bass – he was my grandfather. That's why we're here. When you guys started to follow up on his case, we started following you.

This is placed after the episode in which the guys met his grandfather, so this is a parallel to that episode, but also, what is about to coming, is a Destiel brokenheart parallel (the crypt scene)

DEAN So, wait. What you're saying is that you and me – we, uh, didn't have a moment?

You and me. YOU AND ME. Not YOU, JUST YOU HAD A MOMENT WITH ME. BUT YOU AND ME!

Because Dean had a moment there too... He thought they, together, had a moment. (Bi Dean alarm sounding).

RABBI BASS’ GRANDSON No, man. I was tailing you.

Now... The deception, and the foreshadownfor the broken heart...

Cas I thought we had something special, you and me, but it looks like it was just me feeling that way...

DEAN [to SAM] Told you I was being followed. He was my gay thing.

[to RABBI BASS’ GRANDSON] It was really good. You really had me there. It was very smooth.

Trying to remain cool... But he fooled him.

He will feel fooled by Castiel too.

Can I die now? Okay, after finish this, then I die.

To Conclude

Episode 8x08 showed us a depressed Castiel, thinking about suicide, not being able to come back to Heaven, and trying to stay with Dean and Sam, trying to be a hunter like them, because they're role models to him. And he NEEDS to keep helping people, he need to feel himself as a good person.

We had a worried Dean and and awkward behavior coming from him, with huge heartbroken (crypt scene) foreshadow everywhere.

Episode 8x13 was exppsitional for Bi!Dean, and it had a lot of elements that acted like parallels with MoL legacy and, again, the crypt scene.

I hope you like this one, see you in the next Chronicles.

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If you want to read the previous metas...

Links are right here: vol. XXXI, XXXII and XXXIII.

Buenos Aires, October 23rd 2019 6:20 PM

[justanearth-boundmisfit]

blubunn replied to your post:Ok vent/rant time.  I’m reading lots of positivity...

Even tho it was mostly bronlies saying this, I find it funny we’re getting the blame for low ratings when they said losing our views would do nothing bc Cas wasn’t why the show went on for so long. I’ve also been wondering if people would even feel good abt an endgame at this point. With all the off screen “destiel” and the parallels and the on screen no homo, would an end game feel good? Like, after WS got shot down, and Kathryn Newton being too busy to come back to Spn, they saw no harm in making Claire textually gay, or at least into Kaia. So wouldn’t an endgame at this point be basically them saying, “there. Destiel. Shows over so who cares?” 

I can assure that it’s not mostly bronlies saying this. I have them all blocked on twitter (and here as well) and they have me also blocked, so the things I’ve been reading blaming Cas’ stans, come from some destiel shippers, Cas “fans”, tons of new metas and the positivity police. I can’t show you screen shots here, because it would bring more wank, but if you want I can pass you some links via message. I also saw them attacking bitter Cas fans all day long: “you’re negative”, “you only bring toxicity!”, “not watching because Cas is not in the ep is not ok”, “you don’t understand that Cas was there via Mary’s trenchcoat” and I could go on and on. Maybe bronlies are saying something similar but I haven’t read any, because I tend to stay the fuck away from that part of the fandom. But the positivity police somehow I can’t avoid, because they are attacking some people that I follow on twitter. Goes to show how fucked up the whole fandom is. 

About Destiel, at this point, and I’m saying this as a destiel shipper, I really couldn’t care less if they make it canon or not. My guess is that it’s impossible and they will continue to bait people til the end of the show. But they also like to play the wincest card A LOT. I will say that for what I’ve been seeing here and on twitter, that they are taking the bros route even stronger this season. And it’s not working. The gods know why? Right? *sarcasm*

I always said that Singer is a bros only fan, and also is Dabb, positivity police want to hold on to that Dabbstiel fuckery, and ok fine by me! But then they shouldn’t come full force when the crap they are pulling is not working. 

Kaia/Claire and Mary/Bobby are just two examples of how they are willing to making ships canon, “the show is not about romance” my ass. But they only will do it if A. they are lesbians and one of them is maybe dead and the other not returning. or B. they are a straight couple. It only took them less that a year for that. Meanwhile destiel shippers are waiting, going on ten years now. 

I never saw an endgame for Cas and Dean, because this is the bros show, not because I like it (fuck I stopped watching because of it), but because it’s what TPTB want, and how they keep reminding us in lots of interviews. The rest? Crumbs. 

And fine, you know? Whatever, I don’t really care, because I stopped watching, tired of seeing my fave destroyed, and in the end Cas is more than a ship for me. But for the majority Cas is only functional as part of destiel, which is fucked up imo, but to tons of fans it is what it is. 

Dabb and Singer are pulling a strong “NO HOMO” for the last three seasons, separating Cas and Dean every chance they got. And even when they are in the same scene, there’s a table between them, different camera angles to no show them together, a chaperone, etc, etc.... Now positivity police can read bi!Dean from a shirt, but then can’t see all these tricks they are pulling? And are just THERE in front of their faces? Again whatever, I’m not here to imitate them and tell them how to watch. But they do want to sell that crap to everyone. Because they like the crumbs and because some have other motives to be pro TPTB.

But for them to be bitching about Cas’ bitter fans every time they get without looking to their own bs? yeah no dice, I can’t shut up about it. I have to shut up about lots of things, and I do it because it would bring me a whole lot of wank that I’m not prepared to deal with. But again, to be blamed for something they brought onto themselves? Not gonna happen in my case. 

Lmao! Sorry for the long af reply :S

[almaasi]

reaction post typed while watching SPN 13x16 Scoobynatural

my mood after watching this: SCOOBY DOOBY DOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03:33pm

HI FRIENDS

so full disclosure, i’m not feeling good at all and my hair is falling out!!! more than usual!!! so I’M REALLY HOPING THIS EPISODE MAKES ME FEEL BETTER

best case scenario, dean’s in the middle of a fred/daphne/cas lovefest, but frankly i’m more expecting a one-sided daphne-dean thing?? i think cas is probably just in this for the sake of having him there too but PLEASE GIVE HIM SOMETHING USEFUL TO DO pleeeease. i also figure dean ends up with the ascot because daphne gives it to him, not fred, but I AM WILLING TO BE SURPRISED

i’m not expecting actual proper bi dean and/or destiel, for the record. as fun and delightful as that would be. i’m just here to have a woofing good time

last night i watched “Scooby Doo! Shaggy’s Showdown” and it was GREAT and i thoroughly enjoyed it and I REALLY HOPE THIS EPISODE IS AS GOOD AS THAT WAS

as in, give me diverse background characters (i mean, if they can’t be be main characters), daphne actually having depth to her character beyond vanity, velma being 10/10 relatable and being genuine besties with daphne, fred being a useless lovable dork, shaggy being THE ABSOLUTE BEST & TOTALLY A ROLE MODEL, scooby being literally the coolest sweetest dog ever

BRING FORTH THE CARTOON ANTICS

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03:45

HERE WE GO

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03:46

at first i thought this dinosaur costume was a recap and i was like WHEN DID DEAN FIGHT A DINOSAUR

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03:49

dean and sam mentioned a lizard and quite frankly this dude looks like a lizard

i half expected his tongue to poke out, barty crouch jr. style

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03:50

dean: “TAKE IT EASY, SHE’S DELICATE”

love how dean makes every inanimate thing he cares about into a ‘she’

is this him sexualising random pieces of equipment; finding the thing impressive and therefore giving it the pronoun of the people who most inspire him; or is it a parenting instinct buried deep down that just happens to have a gender bias??

WILL WE EVER KNOW

from dean’s soft “shh” though i imagine it’s a parenting thing

precious tv needs to be loved and cared for like a baby

(i mean......... Baby is his car. definitely a parenting thing. BUT THEN ALSO HIS CAR IS SEXY???? CONCLUSION: DEAN HAS MOTHER/PARTNER/INTIMACY ISSUES)

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03:56

dean: “be like elsa, let it go”

this boy has so many repressed childhood issues i don’t know where to start

HIS INNER CHILD NEEDS HELP

oh man i think i just realised what his growth this episode is gonna be. CONNECT TO THE DESPERATE INNER CHILD

SAVE HIM!!!!!

(sidenote: i did not realise i would be going into this and immediately begin psychoanalysing dean but there we go)

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03:58

the dean cave

or the fortress of deanitude

ohhhhhhhhhhh boy

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03:59

let me know when there’s a fic where dean and cas cuddle/fall asleep/boink in those plaid la-z-boy recliners huh.

or when dean, cas, and sam all want to watch something at the same time and there’s only two chairs sO SOMEONE’S GONNA HAVE TO SHARE

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04:01

THEY’RE A CARTOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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04:02

dean: “are we animated? yes. is it weird? yes.”

reminds me of zootopia a little I LOVE IT I LOVE IT YAAYAYY

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04:06

a malt shop!!!!!! cartoon ice cream sundaes always look so tasty

EVEN BETTER WHEN SHARED WITH SCOOBY AND SHAGGY

i always thought dean and shaggy would get along so damn well

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04:08

FRICK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

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04:08

WHO DOESN’T NEED A MILKSHAKE-DRINKING GREAT DANE IN THEIR LIVES

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04:09

sam’s hair looks really good

AND I JUST REALISED HOW WELL THEY DID DEAN’S LIPS!!! POUTY PRETTY AND PLUSH, JUST THE WAY THEY ARE IN FANFICTION

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06:11

dean: “cas is kinda like a talking dog”

unsure whether to be offended on cas’ behalf or not

because on the one hand, RUDE

but on the other hand, the talking dog is the title character, the coolest one, the most beloved, and the most impressive of all

so

i suppose that was a compliment???

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04:13

me: *SQUISHES MY CHEEKS* THIS IS SO CUTE AND SO WHOLESOME I LOVE THESE GUYS!!!!!!!!

my heart may or may not be pounding

maybe it’s just low blood pressure

/eats salt

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04:17

“oh HECK yes”

THAT WAS DEAN’S ULTIMATE DREAM (also mine?)

INSTA-GIANT-SANDWICH

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04:18

sam: “hey why do you hate fred so much”

dean: “he thinks he’s so cool ..with his perfect hair, his can-do attitude”

OH SHIT DEANIE’S GOT A HARDCORE CRUSH AND DOESN’T REALISE IT

LITERALLY DIDN’T SEE IT COMING FROM THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH BUT OF COURSE

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04:21

WAS THAT CAS STAGGERING AFTER THEIR CARS

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04:2

“providing you spend tonight here in this old mansion”

OH MY GOD I THINK I WATCHED THIS ONE GROWING UP?? i think it was one of the few we had on vhs!!! and we’d watch it a lot!!! and the the vhs went missing and we never found it again, pretty sure some other kid literally stole it from our house

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04:26

daphne: “oh dean. boys and girls don’t sleep in the same rooms, silly!!!”

fred: “guess you’re with me, slugger”

I AM ENJOYING THIS

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04:27

Y E A H

i’m so into this you have no idea

dean: “it’s freaking comfortable. it’s like i’m... wrapped in hugs”

THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS I DISLIKE 12/10 WILL WRITE FANFICTION OF THIS

and it’s purple

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04:32

dean: “doesn’t matter if WE die. scooBY DOO COULD DIE. and that’s not happening. not on my watch. i’d take a bullet for that dog.”

aaaaaaaand if scooby is cas’ parallel............

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *u*

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04:37

!!! their !!! hands !!! touch !!!!!

*muffled background music* and every time we touch it feels like heaven, and everything we kiss i swear i could fflyyy~

pool angel seems so disoriented and confused and clumsy

being a cartoon must really have sent him off-kilter

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06:40

SAM DEAN I’M BACK FROM SYRIA WITH FRUIT FROM THE TREE OF LIFE. THE TREE WAS GUARDED BY A PACK OF DJINN I KILLED MOST OF THEM, BARGAINED WITH THE REST

oh man he’s so fluffy

misha looks like he’s trying not to laugh

“i think i’m... technically married to their queen now”

i don’t know what to do with this information

i hope it comes up as a destiel-centric useful plot point in a future episode

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04:44

AH the fruits from the tree of life are pomegranates

OH COURSE. symbolising entrance to the underworld etc. etc persephone and hades

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04:45

dean: “it’s a book we’re writing. about a killer stuffed dinosaur. it’s called--”

cas: *glances at dean* “the killer stuffed dinosaur. in........love”

IN LOVE

IN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY DID CAS CHOOSE THOSE WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WONDER WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/VERY LOUD SARCASM

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04:49

BISEXUAL DEAN DREAM TEAM

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05:51

cas: “i once commanded armies and now i’m paired with a scruffy philestine and a talking dog”

HEY DON’T KNOCK SHAGGY OR SCOOBY, THEY’RE AWESOME AND KIND, AND TALKING DOGS ARE COOL

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04:53

the velma/sam ship is setting sail

honestly i’ve lowkey shipped this for many years I’M SO GLAD THIS IS A THING NOW

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04:55

I LOVE THIS ANIMATION TROPE

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04:57

omg scrappy doo just waddled past in the door-running scene

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04:58

jeez dean take a hint DAPHNE’S NOT INTERESTED

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04:59

velma: “dean had him by the thigh”

cas: “you what?”

the fact it’s cas ??? asking why dean was fondling a ghost????

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05:01

caS: “sCOOBY! SCOOBY!!!!!!”

I THINK CAS IS FOND OF SCOOBY DOO NOW

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05:03

look at this trio!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THEM

also cas is so fucking pretty???? WHY IS CAS SO FUCKING PRETTY ;U;U;U;U; HELP

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05:04

also sam ain’t two feet taller than cas !!

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05:05

WHY DOES DAPHNE THINK SHE’S GOING TO HELL?? WHAT DOES SHAGGY MEAN BY “EVERY TIME”

IS SHE BANGING FRED OUT OF WEDLOCK/UNDERAGE IS THAT WHAT SHE MEANS

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05:07

FRICKETTY FUCK YEAH

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05:08

DID DEAN JKUST SWEAR AND IT WAS BLEEPED OG MY GODHDSFHYDGDG

also is it just me or does fred look way sexier with his hair messed up

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05:12

dean: “lay it on me, freddy”

me: *smug noise*

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05:16

eheheh cas poking in from the back

also daphne with two shotguns?? sign me up

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daphne: KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

ksjfdkjsgfgm

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05:21

i don’t think i wanna know what dean did with the cartwright twins either

NOTE: GENDER UNKNOWN

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05:24

guy: “is that an ascot?”

dean: “yes. yes it is.”

is that him trying to be daphne’s type, or him trying to be like perfect mr. fred

OR BOTH

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05:27

OMG DEAN;S “SCOOBY DOOBY DOOOOO” OH JTGJSREGEBGERSHYGERSHGSREGVESGESHGHSE

JENSEN OH MY GOD

HOW MANY TAKES DID THAT TAKE

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05:28pm

11/10 i loVED IT 

INSTANT FAVOURITE EPISODE QUITE FRANKLY WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST OF THE SHOW THIS WAS GREAT

THIS MADE ME SO HAPPY IT WAS SO WHOLESOME

MY PARENTS WANNA WATCH IT AND WE’RE GONNA HAVE DINNER IN LIKE AN HOUR SO I GUESS IMMA WATCH IT AGAIN

OH MY GOD THANK YOU UNIVERSE FOR BRINGING THIS INTO EXISTENCE

no people of colour but oh well

also not even sure the bechdel test was passed since velma and daphne only talked about sam

BUT EVEN SO THIS WAS AMAZING

YEEEE

i’m so pleased cas was in this. and i love that he loved shaggy and scooby ‘cause they’re the best and CAS+SHAGGY+SCOOBY WAS THE BEST TEAM

still not sure how cas diving out of the window after scooby actually helped but okay

oh man

feel-good happy place episode !!!

i am delight

[elizabethrobertajones]

@goodfemalecharacters you’re making me self-analyse >.> Thanks 

It was just a passing thought after noticing how much I linked that was about what Dean and female characters says about him rather than Dean and dudes posts... Of course then I went to dinner and had time to reflect on it so now *I’m* curious :P

I suppose if you were going to decide consciously do this, it would be because it’s so easy to frame all the Dean is bi meta as “Dean once got a boner looking at Cas and has a crush on Doctor Sexy” which is all fine but basically boils down to using the same pile of gifs to throw back at anyone who disagrees, old school gif war style but not for fun. And we have our refutations about their “Dean is straight” gifs so I’m sure they have refutations they spell out about the boner and that thing where Dean freaked Aaron out when he decided why not while being hit on to make him go away and leave Aaron the heck alone...

I mean there’s nothing WRONG with that but it all relies on the “this is what we see Dean doing around dudes” stuff

And then there’s the narrative stuff e.g. paralleling Dean’s crush on Gunnar (which was a mirror anyway to his crush on Dr Sexy) to Sam’s crush on the announcer lady. I like stuff like that a lot because it’s all pretty solid and a lot of Destiel meta comes under that with the parallels and themes and tropes, and also other stuff like the Benny x Dean vs Sam x Amelia set ups and so on. (And Charlie lampshading it and asking if Dean broke up too) and that’s all really solid meta that I love and I think we can build on to say Dean is definitely portrayed as having romantic or sexual interest or his relationships mirroring romantic/sexual relationships (idk where “poster on bedroom wall” or “watches his soap on TV” comes into this :P) but it is all still putting together narrative and symbolic stuff to prove that Dean’s portrayed by the narrative as being interested in men or at least suggesting romantic potential (I don’t think things with Benny ever WERE as much as the parallels suggested but that doesn’t mean they weren’t telling us some truth anyway. Like they’re each other’s one that got away or something). That’s the kind of meta I would build a house with :D

If you go one step more abstract (aka dangerous overthinking territory but I live out here :P) and discuss well if Dean likes men too, and this is a defining part of his character, how does this affect this that and the other about him, so you get performing!Dean meta which includes the fact he’s bi as one of the underlying things he’s covering over (the Dean vs cake thing was especially fun but even with wink winks from one of the writers, I wouldn’t call it easy to explain or prove because I’m still baffled at the wilful ignorance towards “vegetable water makes you gay” meta (I’m sorry, it’s so funny I can’t stop calling it that :P)). Uh, and other serious character stuff about his relationship with John or Samuel Campbell as the disapproving father figures, or Bobby as the supportive one. (There’s a lot of Bobby Knows meta floating around on my dash right now :P) And other stuff about how it affects him at a core level if he’s been raised in the macho hunter environment and so on. 

One of the siren/gay panic metas I wrote was about how horrifying it would be the siren might have got to him because he was bi and not on the guard for male attraction, which is how it got to him (and that moment of horror between the flask reveal and the siren smoothing it over and making it about brothers but DEAN wasn’t to know he was about to say that EITHER) and Crowley doing the exact same frickin’ thing to him in season 9 when he was already in a self-loathing pit of despair. Which all seems to come from canon for me but idk how reach-y it looks from the outside to construct that argument as it relies on some pretty abstract connections and empty spaces.

Anyway trying to discuss how this all fits with Dean and female characters he’s canonically been actually interested in romantically/sexually takes us all the way back to the gif wars and like, refuting the ridiculousness of showing him kissing a woman as proof he’s straight like, duh of course he makes out with women, he’s BI as in you’re all in danger... I think we don’t talk about the female love interests/Dean’s interest in women much because it gets all psychoanalyse-y (it comes up a lot with comparisons like Carmen and Ann-Marie and Lisa to Mary, for example (side note: always here to pull receipts on Sam doing the same so it’s a Thing on the show not just a Dean thing)) or the idea of because he’s bi women are safe so hooking up is a kneejerk reaction (don’t disagree, but it’s often the end of the discussion when it’s brought up like that to explain his hooking up behaviour) 

And idk, the Lisa post came about because I saw a lot of discussion about Lisa comparing her to the “Amelia is a figment of Sam’s imagination” theory and she has the El Sol djinn dream connection, but I do also believe Dean loved her and the weirdness of it has a ton of sexist bad writing in the end of season 5 (season 5ausagefest, honestly >.> Name me a female character who isn’t randomly in 1-2 episodes then dies or disappears completely from the narrative and then start listing 4 archangels, 4 horsemen and TFW + Bobby and Crowley :P) and Gamble did a salvage job on her in season 6 but too late to fix all the weirdness of Dean showing up on her door out of the blue, while also knowing Dean can’t stay with Lisa because of the formula of the show >.> So I took the chance to explore it a bit deeper and compare to 2x20 and why Dean might be struggling with self-acceptance and how Lisa is easier, and tracing their relationship back to season 3 and Gamble’s work to suggest Dean thought she was endgame but even by the end of season 3, it was seeming clear she wasn’t, but there’s an *explanation* already there in the text of why when Dean “imagines himself happy” it’s with her.

I also don’t see the female love interests as no homos or whatever, just part of the complex tapestry of Dean. Carmen in 12x18 is from the same writer as Gunnar Lawless in 11x15. I don’t think it all magically goes away when they write Dean hooking up. And there’s maybe some wariness to drag some characters into it because touchy fandom, and some because we already KNOW he likes women so does writing about Dean & Lisa actually tell us anything new, when the meta format in this debate is normally about proving with positive examples of Dean x dudes and using evidence that’s easy to argue for bisexuality, so delving into the heterosexual encounters seems redundant.

But I don’t know! I never planned to do this, I just wrote about what interested me, and then I suddenly had a realisation the pics I put in that post were ALL Dean and blonde women which made me laugh because even though I dragged in Cas and Gadreel and Crowley at least, the actual subtext was ALL about the women as the narrative device to link it all together through various homoerotic moments, and then I realised all the meta I linked was discussing Dean and how various heterosexual encounters shaped or showed his inner landscape. I guess I’m just interested because Dean and his sexuality is all over the place so it’s a rich topic and it shows in ways other than flirting with dudes. 

I remembered writing this that I was obsessed for a while when my long meta rewatch hit season 4, with Anna as a proxy the show used so Dean could hook up with Cas. And they used the handprint moment in the car sex scene to PUT Cas into that scene. Dean was having sex with the symbolic representation of angels and Cas is that angel on the customer service desk who represents Heaven to him, and it’s his mark on Dean’s arm. And Sam hooked up with Ruby, the symbolic representation of Hell, and he drank her blood even though it was Azazel’s that went in his mouth first but no one makes it nearly as weird as that ridiculously romantic/erotic shot of Anna putting her hand over the handprint and making the *entire* scene about Cas...

Hrm. 

I mean I feel sort of bad using these characters as props for the meta, but the show uses them as props - Wendy in 1x03 is literally there as T&A and Dean gets a boner over her which the camera jokes about, and that’s her role over. Lisa is an emotional pit stop, Carmen wasn’t real, Anna was the most realised character but she still seemed, narratively, there to balance out Sam x Ruby and how Dean x Cas was the obvious opposing force in the narrative, but AFTER that she got to be an interesting character in Cas’s vicinity. (I mean I guess she was a “No homo” but she had plot and character stuff going for her from the start, it’s just her role in 4x09 and 4x10 was SO different from later, and she was originally only going to be there 2 episodes)... 

But yeah I only just realised this so I have no idea wtf I’m doing and I don’t think this is an a critique of how we write meta per say because I have written miles of the easier stuff about Dean and dudes as well, and I don’t feel wildly feminist for these metas, due to the fact I’m using T&A or prop-for-the-manpain characters as exactly that instead of exploring them for themselves rather than what they do for Dean :P