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victoriams · 1 year ago

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ᴍʏ ʀᴏᴛ ɪꜱ ᴀꜱ ʜᴜɴɢʀʏ ᴀꜱ ᴍᴇ. ᴀɴᴅ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɢᴏᴅ ᴀꜱᴋꜱ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ʟᴏᴠᴇ, ɪ ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ʀᴇꜱᴘᴏɴᴅ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴄʀᴜᴇʟᴛʏ –

victoria pedretti . cis woman . she/her ➶ I RECOGNISE THAT FACE ! that’s DELILAH RIPLEY , the THIRTY year old MEMBER OF SNOW’S CABINET from THE CAPITOL . they’ve been in the capitol around HER WHOLE LIFE , long enough to gain a reputation for being so DISCIPLINED & RUTHLESS . they’re so lucky getting to live in the tribute center for the duration of the games! ( character ISN’T part of the uprising )

STATISTICS

FULL NAME delilah ruth ripley

NICKNAMES lila

DATE OF BIRTH november 12, 64th year

AGE thirty

DISTRICT capitol

ROLE member of snow's cabinet; political fixer

GENDER cis woman

ORIENTATION pansexual panromantic

PERSONALITY

POSITIVE TRAITS intelligent, disciplined, charming

NEGATIVE TRAITS manipulative, ruthless, amoral

MBTI entp-a – the debater

ENNEAGRAM type 8 – the challenger

MORAL ALIGNMENT neutral evil

DEADLY SIN greed

HEAVENLY VIRTUE temperance

ZODIAC scorpio

CHARACTER PARALLELS cersei lannister, game of thrones / regina george, mean girls / azula, avatar: the last airbender / blair waldorf, gossip girl / amy elliot dunne, gone girl / charlotte hale, westworld / love quinn, you

RELATIONSHIPS

HIERONYMUS RIPLEY II father

SELENIA RIPLEY mother, deceased

HIERONYMUS KALEB RIPLEY III younger brother

BIOGRAPHY

You are born in the dead of night, kicking and screaming – pulled from your mother like a tumour. Your parents name you DELILAH – delicate. You would soon prove to be anything but.

From a young age, you come to understand that there is something fundamentally wrong with you. It’s hard to pinpoint where it came from – maybe the poison in your heart came from your wretched mother, or your boorish father – or maybe something went awry when their genes mixed together and spat you out. Whatever it is, there is something missing inside of you. The part of your brain that tells you right from wrong, good from bad, virtue from vice. No, to you there is no right and wrong, just like there is no easter bunny and there is no god – there is only what serves you, and what does not. Life, you see, can be as simple as that.

You are a uniquely cruel child, in that your fangs are not immediately obvious. You are no brute – you understand that the key to power is popularity, and the key to popularity is charm. This, fortunately, you have in abundance. You learn to charm everybody around you, from your parents, to your teachers, to your peers. They see in you whatever they want to see – the perfect daughter, student, friend. Are you any of these things? Or do you simply pretend to be, to advance your own position – in the family, the classroom, the schoolyard? Does it matter? As far as you are concerned, there is very little to separate fact from fiction, and you are the arbiter of truth.

You are perfect, because people believe you to be. You are prom queen, class captain, valedictorian, apple of your parents’ eyes. No matter the bloodstains on your teeth from the throats you have ripped out in your pursuit of excellence. No matter the bodies you have buried to keep your reputation intact. You are a bully, cheater, manipulator, tyrant. But you have to be to succeed. And there is nothing wrong with that.

You study political science at university. You minor in psychology. You decide to pursue politics – not because you wish to follow in the footsteps of your father ( though you cannot deny that a sense of satisfaction fills you whenever he throws this fact in Kaleb’s face ), but because of the power that will come with such a career. You rise through the ranks of the government quickly – you are the perfect mix of disciplined and vicious, gentle and brutal, hesitant and decisive. You know when to stay silent, and when to strike. You charm your superiors and make quick work of your peers – sinking your fangs into them before they can think about surpassing you. Blackmail, sabotage, or subtle manipulation see to many careers ending prematurely, and you being promoted in place.

Maybe, were people paying more attention, they might notice that destruction seemed to follow you wherever you went.

You are promoted to President Snow’s cabinet by the time you are twenty-six. It’s a remarkable accomplishment, almost unheard of for someone outside of Snow’s family. You wear it like a badge of honour, and wield the power like a sword. These days, you are an indispensable weapon within Snow’s arsenal. They call you the gravekeeper – it’s your job to bury the bodies. Nobody else has the stomach to do it – to look the horrors of this government in the eye and cover them in a glossy veneer. Nobody else can handle scandal after scandal like you do. There are no other fixers quite like you, and this makes you valuable.

And, because you’re no fool, you keep souvenirs from each body. Paper trails and photographs and other memorabilia tucked away in a little box in your room. Enough evidence to end careers, to overthrow governments – if that is what you decided you wanted. Right now, your position serves you, and so it is where you remain. It’s nice to know, however, that at any moment, you could be the nail in your superiors’ coffins. It’s nice to know that, if you so wanted, you could watch the light leave President Snow’s eyes and take the throne for yourself.

And it’s nice to know that you wouldn’t feel an ounce of guilt doing it, because it's what you would deserve. And what's so wrong with that?

#mj.intro #delilah – 𝒾𝓃��𝓇𝑜𝒹𝓊𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 #my psycho <3

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seyaryminamoto · 4 years ago

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I really hate how the OP identified azula as ENTJ, coz as an INTJ I can confirm that homegirl is an INTJ to bones. We actually have the same situation im an INTJ but people often see me came off as an ENTJ just because I'm a leader for every activity I need to deal with my classmates with authority and have to crush down the awkwardness I feel talking with them for the project to be successful.

... I am not sure which OP you’re talking about but I think I understand the debate nonetheless xD

I’m INTJ as well, and I see more than enough similarities between Azula and INTJs too. The thing is, not every personality is the same, even amongst INTJs there’s some differences in character such as Assertive or Turbulent (I, apparently, am a Turbulent INTJ and I’d suspect Azula is more of an Assertive one?), so we have a lot of traits in common but maybe we approach certain situations differently.

At any rate, ENTJs and INTJs aren’t all that different by logic, but I do agree that they’re different enough. Sokka, for instance, seems to be a perfect ENTJ, I don’t think any other MBTI works for him. Meanwhile, Azula can fit either ENTJ or INTJ to varying degrees: I was talking with a friend the other day and we were debating whether Azula is introverted or extroverted, and to this moment it’s almost a coin toss. It really hinges a lot on your personal interpretation of the character: I lean more towards introverted, but I don’t think she’s a classic introvert in the sense of being shy or wanting to be isolated from people (the latter sounding more like something that describes Mai). Yet I also can acknowledge that popular opinion, and interaction with others, is very important for Azula, to the point where not being successful in social environments seems to plague her pretty badly in The Beach.

Looking at sites that talk about the differences in the duality between (E) and (I)...

Extraversion (E)

I like getting my energy from active involvement in events and having a lot of different activities. I'm excited when I'm around people and I like to energize other people. I like moving into action and making things happen. I generally feel at home in the world. I often understand a problem better when I can talk out loud about it and hear what others have to say.

The following statements generally apply to me:

1. I am seen as "outgoing" or as a "people person."

2. I feel comfortable in groups and like working in them.

3. I have a wide range of friends and know lots of people.

4. I sometimes jump too quickly into an activity and don't allow enough time to think it over.

5. Before I start a project, I sometimes forget to stop and get clear on what I want to do and why.

Source

Meanwhile...

Introversion (I)

I like getting my energy from dealing with the ideas, pictures, memories, and reactions that are inside my head, in my inner world. I often prefer doing things alone or with one or two people I feel comfortable with. I take time to reflect so that I have a clear idea of what I'll be doing when I decide to act. Ideas are almost solid things for me. Sometimes I like the idea of something better than the real thing.

The following statements generally apply to me:

1. I am seen as "reflective" or "reserved."

2. I feel comfortable being alone and like things I can do on my own.

3. I prefer to know just a few people well.

4. I sometimes spend too much time reflecting and don't move into action quickly enough.

5. I sometimes forget to check with the outside world to see if my ideas really fit the experience.

Source

Once you look at those two descriptions, there’s some traits in the first description that can fit Azula, including that she even called herself a “people person” at one point in the show (though she isn’t necessarily right about it, but still...). She also seems to enjoy being involved in action, to making certain things happen (she’s the one with the agency and initiative throughout The Beach, for instance, that’s not her father telling her to do things, it’s Azula who tears down a sand castle, drags the others to play Kuai Ball, ensures to get invited to a party and then who seems to have the idea for the house trashing that happens later), so it’s not completely farfetched to say she has some (E) traits.

Buuuuuut... when you look at the (I) traits, it actually fits really well. Azula doesn’t limit herself to merely taking action, she thinks things through. The (E) description suggests carelessness, not reflection, not proper pondering or weighing of situations, and going by Azula’s behavior throughout Book 2 and the first half of Book 3, she is absolutely not that careless and instead plans things for ages in advance... which fits (I) so much better. Azula also only seems to have two friends, and is shown deliberately choosing them over a whole Royal Procession, which again fits (I) far better than (E).

Therefore... It’s very difficult to say which one suits Azula perfectly, and that’s why I believe it hinges STRONGLY on how you perceive and headcanon the character. I think that Azula is pretty much standing in close to the middle of this particular duality, sharing enough traits with both sides to make her waaaay too complex to categorize bluntly in either thing. I’ll say, outright, that I write her as more of an (I) than (E) in terms of how she socializes, quality over quantity, pretty much? But in terms of how she reacts in situations of peril or situations that require someone to take the wheel, she’s absolutely going to jump ahead and take charge immediately, something that makes people think of (E) rather than (I), as you said yourself.

In the end, I can’t get particularly angry at anyone who headcanons her as ENTJ rather than INTJ, I’ve seen arguments for either side, I know neither thing is all that far from the truth... but I also suspect Azula may be a little too complicated for MBTI to apply to her character flawlessly, regardless of which personality type is chosen to categorize her. There’s always going to be pros and cons to either ENTJ or INTJ placements for Azula (the classic understanding for (I) is we’re shy and basically allergic to social situations, which can feel out of place with Azula because she WANTS to be part of social situations, and the problem hinges in that she doesn’t exactly know how to be part of them due to her horrible, sheltered upbringing...), so I don’t really have a personal stake in this particular debate. I’ll likely continue to write her leaning more towards INTJ than ENTJ because I usually work with either post-canon Azula, who I headcanon as far more reflective and less action-driven, or with Gladiator Azula, who as well has become a lot more reflective and who didn’t see as much action at 14 years of age as she does in canon. But if some people prefer to write her as ENTJ, as long as she still feels enough like herself, I’ll be okay with it too. I also don’t mind at all the analysis of Azula and Sokka as two different takes on what ENTJs can be like, it was pretty cool to see it, even though there’s also great meta out there on what makes ENTJs and INTJs great matches too xD

Soooo... what can I say aside from: headcanon what you wish to. If you’re here, in my blog of all places, you must know I disagree with like... 99% of common and popular fandom opinions xD doesn’t matter how big a blog may be, or how loudly they shout whatever opinions they may have, you as an individual are absolutely allowed to disagree, and there’s really no one in this world who can tell you your interpretation of a character is less valid just because the rest of the fandom doesn’t share it.

#anon #Azula's MBTI debate #:'D #sorry if this wasn't too helpful #but hey #I see her as INTJ too in general #so we're more or less in agreement xD

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