#Anti Sara Hess

[tessarionbestgirl]

I feel sick.

[sunfyrisms]

i bring a “house of the dragon is a poorly written fanfic cash grab that glorifies house targaryen and completely misses the message of fire and blood. all the characters deserve better” vibe people aren’t particularly fond of i fear

[cold-v0dka]

please, please, creators, give me at least ONE scene of helaena with dreamfyre and I will forgive you all the stupid things you have done. just one please and everything will be fine between us (i won't forgive you anyway)

[hotdaemondtargaryen]

“I know what happens. We’ve all read the book and we all know what happens. The writing team will decide how they want to interpret that in their own way. But I feel like they haven’t been that faithful to the books, to be honest. A lot of the stuff that happens to Criston like seeing him fighting and the relationship with Alicent is not in the books. I just hope they do it justice.”

FABIEN FRANKEL — talking about the changes to the characters that ryan condal and sara hess made on the show.

[danyseastar]

hot take maybe but the only reason most show runners/producers/writers/etc. age up the (female) characters from book to show adaptation is to overtly sexualize them and not face mass amounts of scrutiny for it.

put 13 year old daenerys next to 30 year old drogo and the audience understands that daenerys is a victim to him and not an equal. put 22 year old emilia clarke as daenerys next to 32 year old jason mamoa as drogo and they’re seen as a budding romance with a tragic ending (by the general audience) due to their on screen chemistry.

flash forward to today, and now we’re dealing with 21 year old milly alcock playing rhaenyra from 14-19 and how her relationship with (28 year old fabien) a mid twenties criston is seen as -morally acceptable- and not a result of a degenerate pedophile taking advantage of and grooming his charge. “ser criston protects the princess from her enemies, but who protects the princess from ser criston?” rhaenyra was 14 when rumors started speculating that she slept with an almost 30 year old criston. a criston who had know her since she was 8 and had been her sworn shield since she was 9. obviously seeing a teenager in the early stages of puberty next to a fully grown man would emphasize rhaenyra being THE victim, as opposed to the show having an 18-19 year old explore her sexuality and seek out ‘consensual’ sex with her peer bodyguard. the discourse has even reached the point where certain stans try to paint the much younger woman as the perpetrator and aggressor of this event, who forced the unassuming man into having sex with her.

i’ll even take this a step farther, and bring up how if they had shown a 19 year old alicent abusing a 10 year old rhaenyra it would be identified and mutually agreed upon as a reprehensible act on alicent’s part. instead they’re of similar age, so people can attempt to paint the picture as two women of equal standing hating each other, and not a much older woman bullying a motherless child. once again however, some stans even go so far as to try and paint alicent as a victim of rhaenyra, and not the other way around. further cementing this is how both versions of alicent are younger than both versions of rhaenyra, AND how criston is still played by an actor who is younger than older!rhaenyra despite his character being the same age as daemon in canon.

they know exactly what they’re doing too, considering they aged alicent down to give her that innate compassion one typically feels when seeing children being abused on tv (something that can no longer be applied to rhaenyra). despite that never being her story; *she* was the abuser, and rhaenyra was her victim. criston’s victim. it’s a nasty cop out, and i wish more people would call out how sickening it is to flip the switch and attempt to make abusive individuals more sympathetic than the *actual* victims of said abusers.

[helaenathequeenmaker]

Inviting people to read and buy Fire and Blood after butchering the source material, not understanding the true focus and themes on which the Dance is based, and giving the characters ridiculous story arcs where they contradict themselves after two episodes is the biggest joke these two buffoons can claim. The real custodian of this world is George Martin, not you two megalomaniacs. Take a bath in humility you are becoming worse than D&D

[thesunfyre4446]

"The co-author of House of the Dragon has read the books in a distant past and relies on the knowledge of co-showrunner and co-creator Ryan Condal – who is a huge fan of George R.R. Martin."

sara hess saying she read grrm work "in the distant past" is wild to me. the hubris to think you can adapt his work without even bothering to reread the books or watch the show (because she never watched it) is honestly disrespectful to the author and the audience.

it's like writing an academic paper, you want to be original and say something new in your research, but you can't do that without reading & studying existing articles about the topic. it's the same thing.

[whateverthought]

"How dare Aemond demand Helaena fight in the War?!"

She has the Second-Largest Dragon. The Big Bad Bronze Fury is smaller than her. They don't have enough dragons, their army can't fight them all off.

"But Helaena's not a fighter!"

Who is? While I'll admit there is danger in dragon-fighting, both Rhaenys are examples, but how do you train for that? And in Times of Peace? And against bastards who have to learn a whole new language, the only thing the rider can actually do/has the power to do in the air, even though at least 1 is definitely illiterate, and neither are Knights either.

"But she doesn't Want to!"

It's War! Her son was just Murdered! Even if she wasn't furious, it's WAR!

[kass-of-the-midlands]

The way HOTD both show and mainstream fandom has treated rape and/or sexual assault for a show that considers itself so progressively high and mighty is an absolutely concerning laughingstock btw. Alicent cannot even have an inkling that Viserys was an abusive fuckward despite it literally being shown on screen. Alicent the teenager is actually seen as a harlot for ‘SeDuCiNg’ the Literal Actual King by reading him a book. Criston is reduced to an incel in response to the girl who knew he was sworn to chastity and got excited when he said no to her. Mysaria (and apparantly the show writers) is completely aokay with being kissed by Rhaenyra who did something v similar to criston straight after she tells a very graphic, completely irrelevent and not even book canon or book implied story about her father who raped and impregnated her. This is seen as a completely aokay sapphic ship. Even after realising she can’t trust the man who groomed her Rhaenyra (and the show writers) have Daemon willingly (????) serving Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra accepting him. Both fandom and writers are the equivalent of fucking wattpad writers.

[eschercaine]

The Rhaenyra we want:

vs. The Rhaenyra we got instead:

Thanks Ryan and Sara for ruining the books. 🖕

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

In GRRM's post (on Aegon's nameday):

He used 'queen' 6 times. 5 times for Heleana and once for Alicent.

He mentioned that Maelor was a very important person in the dance even though he was just a child.

He confirms that Heleana and Aegon are the biological parents of Jaehaerys, Jaehaera and Maelor (not Aemond).

He mentions that Heleana was loved by the smallfolk.

All in all we feasted today

[the-daily-dreamer]

I love how HOTD’s logic is just anything in the book bad about team green is 100% true, even the claims that were only mentioned by people who were verifiably not there. They are all true. In fact, not only are the worst things true but also the most sympathetic parts of them? False. Lies. Slanderous propaganda.

And anything bad about team black are lies and propaganda. And the things that aren’t lies are totally acceptable and justifiable! It’s like dealing with a narcissist telling you “I didn’t do that and if I did it’s not my fault”.

Oh well. I’m going down with the ship lol

[sunfyrisms]

me personally i will never forget how rhaenys called out alicent for subjecting herself to the will of men. supposedly. and i say supposedly because she did the exact same thing! she was willing to give her twelve year old daughter to her much older cousin because her husband demanded it. she let her son, her only living child, marry into house targaryen, knowing how dangerous it was (it supposedly cost him his life). she supported rhaenyra’s claim in honor of her husband, while under the impression that rhaenyra had a hand in said son’s death (and her anger about it is just never bought up? to rhaenyra nor daemon). her husband constantly overstepped himself and was willing to do anything to get more power (including essentially leaving his children to the wolves), while justifying it as him wanting to avenge rhaenys’ claim. while rhaenys herself made peace with the crown being passed over her!

her, of all people, telling alicent (who was a child bride whose children through marital rape) literally anything about the topic is so hypocritical and weird. but it’s not meant to be hypocritical and weird. it’s meant to be this girlboss, feminist moment that fans, for some reason, gladly ate up without thinking about it for more than a second. it didn’t make sense for rhaenys’ character but the writers didn’t care. in that moment, she was nothing more than a self-insert for the writers to loudly and annoyingly voice their personal opinions into the show.

it’s so fucking weird and i haven’t liked rhaenys since. you deserve better writing girl.

[godofstory]

me, when HotD was starting: this is gonna be soooo good; they don't have to come up with stupid shit like GOT's ending cause they have the entire material;like the first few seasons of GOT that followed the books it's gonna be awesome start to finish

me, after season 2: well I underestimated the power of stupidity; you could fuck up anything you want if you have enough resistance

[hed184]

One of the worst parts of the "Aegon the rapist" scenario is that it was just an expository plot device that didn't add anything to the characters or the discourse about sexual harassment:

1) We didn't learn anything about Dyana's personality and how the rape affected her in the long term.

2) We don’t know how she deals with her trauma after the violation.

3) We don't see how other maids reacted when they found out one of their own was assaulted by their powerful boss, and they can be the next target.

4) We don't see how her co-workers or family members reacted to her leaving her job with a bag full of coins. Did they believe her story? Or did they believe she sold herself? How did people's opinions effect her?

All of this is left up to speculation on the part of the audience which is lazy writing on the part of the writers. Not to mention, the framing of the scene makes it clear that the scene was not about the victim. Hell, it wasn't even about the rapist. It was about Alicent and *her* reaction to the rape! And even then, it didn't effect her or her relationship with Aegon in any meaningful way!

[florisbaratheons]

Casey Bloy's statements tell me that they are definitely doubling down on season 3 despite the fan backlash and GRRM's on statements. Calling GRRM, the creator of this universe, a "fan" is just fucking rude and immature. So prepare, folks. We're gonna get more of boring AF girlboss Rhae-Rhae, irritating simp Daemon, Robot Helaena, Evil Aemond, Traitor Simp Alicent (who will likely be fighting with Daemon for Rhae-Rhae's affections), and pathetic mess Aegon.

Yayyyyyy!!!!!