#anti Sara hess

[chocobroing]

Exactly! They never interacted! The show writers were once again speaking through Rhaenyra.

The way I wanted to jump through the screen and punch Rhaenyra in the mouth when she said that Helaena doesn’t care about riding her dragon.

In the book one of the few things that Helaena enjoyed was going on rides with Dreamfyre and in the show they took this too from her.

Also,Rhaenyra dear how do you know what your “sweet sister” likes to do since you didn’t gave a single fuck about her?🤔

[tessarionbestgirl]

I feel sick.

[sunfyrisms]

i bring a “house of the dragon is a poorly written fanfic cash grab that glorifies house targaryen and completely misses the message of fire and blood. all the characters deserve better” vibe people aren’t particularly fond of i fear

[cold-v0dka]

please, please, creators, give me at least ONE scene of helaena with dreamfyre and I will forgive you all the stupid things you have done. just one please and everything will be fine between us (i won't forgive you anyway)

[blackcat419]

He accidentally burns bitter bridge because he thought he saw a fire that needed to be lit but it went out of control and he feel really bad :((

I keep thinking about how GRRM gave away that Helaena will die in season 3 for no reason at all, and it truly makes me wonder if Daeron will still burn Bitterbridge in season 4, but it will be for no reason at all. Everyone keeps saying that he will burn it in result of Gwayne and/or Otto's deaths, but honestly, Daeron simply snapping and burning a town to the ground for funsies sounds like something Condal and Hess would write.

[helaenathequeenmaker]

Inviting people to read and buy Fire and Blood after butchering the source material, not understanding the true focus and themes on which the Dance is based, and giving the characters ridiculous story arcs where they contradict themselves after two episodes is the biggest joke these two buffoons can claim. The real custodian of this world is George Martin, not you two megalomaniacs. Take a bath in humility you are becoming worse than D&D

[daeneryseastar]

hot take maybe but the only reason most show runners/producers/writers/etc. age up the (female) characters from book to show adaptation is to overtly sexualize them and not face mass amounts of scrutiny for it.

put 13 year old daenerys next to 30 year old drogo and the audience understands that daenerys is a victim to him and not an equal. put 22 year old emilia clarke as daenerys next to 32 year old jason mamoa as drogo and they’re seen as a budding romance with a tragic ending (by the general audience) due to their on screen chemistry.

flash forward to today, and now we’re dealing with 21 year old milly alcock playing rhaenyra from 14-19 and how her relationship with (28 year old fabien) a mid twenties criston is seen as -morally acceptable- and not a result of a degenerate pedophile taking advantage of and grooming his charge. “ser criston protects the princess from her enemies, but who protects the princess from ser criston?�� rhaenyra was 14 when rumors started speculating that she slept with an almost 30 year old criston. a criston who had know her since she was 8 and had been her sworn shield since she was 9. obviously seeing a teenager in the early stages of puberty next to a fully grown man would emphasize rhaenyra being THE victim, as opposed to the show having an 18-19 year old explore her sexuality and seek out ‘consensual’ sex with her peer bodyguard. the discourse has even reached the point where certain stans try to paint the much younger woman as the perpetrator and aggressor of this event, who forced the unassuming man into having sex with her.

i’ll even take this a step farther, and bring up how if they had shown a 19 year old alicent abusing a 10 year old rhaenyra it would be identified and mutually agreed upon as a reprehensible act on alicent’s part. instead they’re of similar age, so people can attempt to paint the picture as two women of equal standing hating each other, and not a much older woman bullying a motherless child. once again however, some stans even go so far as to try and paint alicent as a victim of rhaenyra, and not the other way around. further cementing this is how both versions of alicent are younger than both versions of rhaenyra, AND how criston is still played by an actor who is younger than older!rhaenyra despite his character being the same age as daemon in canon.

they know exactly what they’re doing too, considering they aged alicent down to give her that innate compassion one typically feels when seeing children being abused on tv (something that can no longer be applied to rhaenyra). despite that never being her story; *she* was the abuser, and rhaenyra was her victim. criston’s victim. it’s a nasty cop out, and i wish more people would call out how sickening it is to flip the switch and attempt to make abusive individuals more sympathetic than the *actual* victims of said abusers.

[thesunfyre4446]

"The co-author of House of the Dragon has read the books in a distant past and relies on the knowledge of co-showrunner and co-creator Ryan Condal – who is a huge fan of George R.R. Martin."

sara hess saying she read grrm work "in the distant past" is wild to me. the hubris to think you can adapt his work without even bothering to reread the books or watch the show (because she never watched it) is honestly disrespectful to the author and the audience.

it's like writing an academic paper, you want to be original and say something new in your research, but you can't do that without reading & studying existing articles about the topic. it's the same thing.

[kass-of-the-midlands]

The way HOTD both show and mainstream fandom has treated rape and/or sexual assault for a show that considers itself so progressively high and mighty is an absolutely concerning laughingstock btw. Alicent cannot even have an inkling that Viserys was an abusive fuckward despite it literally being shown on screen. Alicent the teenager is actually seen as a harlot for ‘SeDuCiNg’ the Literal Actual King by reading him a book. Criston is reduced to an incel in response to the girl who knew he was sworn to chastity and got excited when he said no to her. Mysaria (and apparantly the show writers) is completely aokay with being kissed by Rhaenyra who did something v similar to criston straight after she tells a very graphic, completely irrelevent and not even book canon or book implied story about her father who raped and impregnated her. This is seen as a completely aokay sapphic ship. Even after realising she can’t trust the man who groomed her Rhaenyra (and the show writers) have Daemon willingly (????) serving Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra accepting him. Both fandom and writers are the equivalent of fucking wattpad writers.

[eschercaine]

The Rhaenyra we want:

vs. The Rhaenyra we got instead:

Thanks Ryan and Sara for ruining the books. 🖕

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

In GRRM's post (on Aegon's nameday):

He used 'queen' 6 times. 5 times for Heleana and once for Alicent.

He mentioned that Maelor was a very important person in the dance even though he was just a child.

He confirms that Heleana and Aegon are the biological parents of Jaehaerys, Jaehaera and Maelor (not Aemond).

He mentions that Heleana was loved by the smallfolk.

All in all we feasted today

[whateverthought]

If House of the Dragon was a feminist show they would have fully fledged out all their Female characters instead of picking just one woman and never letting her be Wrong or Angry or Morally Ambiguous

[sunfyrisms]

me personally i will never forget how rhaenys called out alicent for subjecting herself to the will of men. supposedly. and i say supposedly because she did the exact same thing! she was willing to give her twelve year old daughter to her much older cousin because her husband demanded it. she let her son, her only living child, marry into house targaryen, knowing how dangerous it was (it supposedly cost him his life). she supported rhaenyra’s claim in honor of her husband, while under the impression that rhaenyra had a hand in said son’s death (and her anger about it is just never bought up? to rhaenyra nor daemon). her husband constantly overstepped himself and was willing to do anything to get more power (including essentially leaving his children to the wolves), while justifying it as him wanting to avenge rhaenys’ claim. while rhaenys herself made peace with the crown being passed over her!

her, of all people, telling alicent (who was a child bride whose children through marital rape) literally anything about the topic is so hypocritical and weird. but it’s not meant to be hypocritical and weird. it’s meant to be this girlboss, feminist moment that fans, for some reason, gladly ate up without thinking about it for more than a second. it didn’t make sense for rhaenys’ character but the writers didn’t care. in that moment, she was nothing more than a self-insert for the writers to loudly and annoyingly voice their personal opinions into the show.

it’s so fucking weird and i haven’t liked rhaenys since. you deserve better writing girl.

[the-daily-dreamer]

I love how HOTD’s logic is just anything in the book bad about team green is 100% true, even the claims that were only mentioned by people who were verifiably not there. They are all true. In fact, not only are the worst things true but also the most sympathetic parts of them? False. Lies. Slanderous propaganda.

And anything bad about team black are lies and propaganda. And the things that aren’t lies are totally acceptable and justifiable! It’s like dealing with a narcissist telling you “I didn’t do that and if I did it’s not my fault”.

Oh well. I’m going down with the ship lol

[godofstory]

me, when HotD was starting: this is gonna be soooo good; they don't have to come up with stupid shit like GOT's ending cause they have the entire material;like the first few seasons of GOT that followed the books it's gonna be awesome start to finish

me, after season 2: well I underestimated the power of stupidity; you could fuck up anything you want if you have enough resistance

[hed184]

One of the worst parts of the "Aegon the rapist" scenario is that it was just an expository plot device that didn't add anything to the characters or the discourse about sexual harassment:

1) We didn't learn anything about Dyana's personality and how the rape affected her in the long term.

2) We don’t know how she deals with her trauma after the violation.

3) We don't see how other maids reacted when they found out one of their own was assaulted by their powerful boss, and they can be the next target.

4) We don't see how her co-workers or family members reacted to her leaving her job with a bag full of coins. Did they believe her story? Or did they believe she sold herself? How did people's opinions effect her?

All of this is left up to speculation on the part of the audience which is lazy writing on the part of the writers. Not to mention, the framing of the scene makes it clear that the scene was not about the victim. Hell, it wasn't even about the rapist. It was about Alicent and *her* reaction to the rape! And even then, it didn't effect her or her relationship with Aegon in any meaningful way!