#Anti OUAT writers

[loststarsabove]

1. This is quite possibly the worst episode of the show so far and I wish I could bleach it from my brain forever.

2. Genuine question. Did the writers actually hate Rumbelle? Because it sure seems like it.

3. I am not here for the Belle & Hook friendship. (Bring back Ruby)

4. I love Karen David.

[rumbelle-scream]

oh god where's the link 😭 edit: here

Robert Carlyle and Emilie de Ravin discussing their improvised kiss in 6x22 

[chipedteacupchat]

Is it just me, or was Hook the writers' favorite and Rumple their least favorite?

Because Rumple's character gets screwed over so many times, and every time it happens, who comes out looking more holy and heroic? If you said Hook, you'd be right.

What makes it even more annoying to me is that the show tries to present Hook and Emma's relationship as the best and healthiest (because it was the writers' favorite). However, instead of showing us reasons why it's healthy, they just make the other couples worse. For example, CaptainSwan got together in season 4 and that same year, Rumbelle was ruined and OutlawQueen was ruined because of Marian!

This isn't to say I hate Hook, because I don't. I wanted Hook and Rumple to be written well together.

(I also still ship CaptainSwan but still, this bugs me)

[caliburn-the-sword]

like yeah, regina was bad because she committed all that genocide and child abuse and what not, but you know what?? she was also SUCH a major L, and that's the biggest crime of all. like whenever making fun of killian, she just ALWAYS targets the low hanging fruit, his disability or gender non conformity, and it's like bro, at least be CREATIVE with it. tell him that JD's calling because he wants his coat back. not only would that be ten times funnier than any insult regina's ever used (because it's not the same old recycled bs that she constantly uses), it would also COMPLETELY baffle him because he wouldn't get the reference, and that would probably hurt more than knowing exactly what he's being targeted for

[littleblackraincloudofcourse]

So this is not to comment on either side of the Marina vs Penelope/Lady Whistledown argument. That would be an extremely long and detailed rant that I might do later. I will say that both Ruby Barker and Nicola Coughlan seem wonderful and I have nothing negative to say about either of them (and wish to hear nothing negative of either)! This is simply because the antis are ramping up again and I keep coming across a certain video. There is one phrase people have been quoting and I cannot keep myself from saying this anymore. You are all incorrect because you can, in fact, "Disneyfy a Dichhead". *Murder, Kidnapping, Manipulation/Mind Control,Torture even Sexual Assault have all forgiven and sometimes, at least seemingly, forgotten. The worst villans have been given a redemption arc and considered good or even heroic by the end and it all started with a new look and Tale of True Love.

Whats truly insane is that It Worked! It worked so well that it ran for SEVEN season!

FOR FUCKS SAKE, It only ended 5 years ago. There was even a one season spinoff with a complete story!

And this was all done on ABC with Disney characters portrayed as adults. So maybe we're all being a little hard on the teenagers in Netflix's regency Shondaland.

[fuckyeahbelleandrumpelstiltskin]

Oh lord, this whole plot was such a clusterfuck from start to finish.

Basically there was a leaked ABC recap where it is stated that Regina takes Belle's heart without Belle's permission. However the show muddled that up by either deleting the scene or never filming it.

Then, I kid you not, A&E just forgot all about her knowing. Because Belle getting used and abused to hurt Rumple is no big deal right? Why should anyone care? It's just Belle after all. (Sarcasm)

I hate this show. 🤮

I made a recap with the receipts here for anyone interested to revisit the madness.

i've probably ranted about it a hundred times already...

but BUT the way regina stole belle's heart? the scenes don't make sense. the characters don't make sense.

i liked the rumple&will team up to steal belle's heart, but on belle's side, it's not making sense! regina asked belle for her heart, and yet she's clueless when it was returned? regina's not supposed to pull hearts and order people against their wills either! there was no need! she overstepped! and did i mention how it never got brought up again!?

the subplot ends with belle looking at rumple longingly, like she remembered that "oh! i love him." then follows the apparent breakup between belle and will. (oh, and his place in this show also doesn't make sense!)

ergo, this is my most hated plotline. above all the s5-s7 weirdness, this is one where i don't even consider it canon. there's always a better, alternate version of the situation in my head. my headcanon pieces this stupid stupid situation together.

[ouatsnark]

I'm sure you've talked about this on hear before but its hard to tell sometimes.

What are your thoughts on what Neal/Baelfire did to Emma? Because I don't see it talked about a lot about what he did to her. Concerning the fact that she was like 16 and he was over 200 or so years old.

As you read this I need everyone to focus in on this one thing: So. Just to be clear. I do not believe the show correctly portrayed the reality of this relationship. For that reason… things get dicey. So the opinion I am going to give is based on what canon has given us and what I feel OUAT was portraying. Because these two things are in direct conflict when it comes to Swanfire.

According to the timeline, we know that Emma was 16 and Neal states he is 150. That isn’t quite possible with Killian being 200-300 but whatever we’re gonna role with it. When we get to the Emma and Neal scenes their age difference wasn’t retconned. It wasn’t re-written. The writers just didn’t acknowledge, or think about or consider Emma’s canon age when they were writing the scenes. So we don’t see this relationship being portrayed as a predatory one (even though technically it should’ve been). I have seen people try to head canon it in there by pointing to what they perceive Emma’s motives to be in how she responds to Neal but that’s a personal opinion/evaluation of the character. Which is valid. But from a canon perspective? It’s not what the show was going for. In my opinion.

I say this because I would bet money that the majority of general audience viewers, those that casually watched therefore don’t know a lot about the timeline, do not know that Emma should have been 16 in those scenes. I say this because at that time I was one of those people. I had no idea Emma was suppose to be 16. It wasn’t until I joined the fandom and looked at a timeline that I went “holy shit.” I feel like the show was counting on this to get away with it. In my opinion they used JMO instead of the teenage actress for this very reason. OUAT wanted to completely ignore the age difference and portray a relationship between two consenting adults. Neal was not written to be a predator. Neal and Emma were portrayed as two orphans that connected over their shared trauma of being abandoned by their parents and who were of similar ages.

Can statutory rape have an effect on a fictional character when the fictional character isn't being portrayed as a minor in the scenes (because the writers aren’t acknowledging it) and what's being shown is between two consenting adults? Canonically speaking Emma has never specifically told us that she has any trauma from statutory rape. How could she when the scenes aren’t being written that way (despite the fact that they should be)? Emma has only specifically spoken about Neal abandoning her. What we saw was a toxic relationship in the sense that Neal was a self-centered coward.

But at the same time you can’t deny the simple canon fact that Emma is 16 when she meets 150 year old Neal. Do I find that disgusting? Yes. Do I think this should’ve affect Emma in some way? Yes. Do I feel like this was shown on the show? No. But I very much wish the show would've addressed it. Actually, what they should’ve done is just not have made Henry Rumple's grandson. But here we are.

I feel like this was a major flaw in the Swanfire relationship and for this reason alone I will never get behind that ship. Everyone should be appalled at the writing. The Once Upon a Time writers were so very negligent that I feel like they should be barred from writing all together. They created some compelling stories and interesting dynamics but when their writing failed they failed epically.

I covered this a little bit in this post here:

P.S. I am way behind on my inbox because life has gotten away from me.

[sassyandclassy94]

I'm watching Once Upon a Time for the first time and I've reached season 2 so far! I really enjoyed season 1, but I can already feel my interest in the show decreasing after the curse was broken. Plus, I'm not sure I want to watch all seven seasons as that feels like too much. Is there any particular point that would be a good place to stop? What are the best seasons?

Hi!! I recommend stopping after they come back from Neverland. I myself have a hard time stomaching it after a particular character’s death. After Neverland they became 100% fan service, character regression, and started glorifying toxic relationships. Adam and Eddie dropped the ball when they scrapped their original plan for what loud and horny teenagers demanded. It lost its magic after season 3a

[kyliafanfiction]

I loathe how 1x11 makes Leopold seemingly perfect, and we never really get a look at any other side of the story.

[gch1995]

Even the 1937 Snow White wasn’t just a helpless damsel-in distress. She gets saved by men twice throughout the story, and the Huntsman spares her life. However, you also have to remember that Snow White is the youngest princess in these stories and the most sheltered one. She’s somewhere between 13-14 years old. Of course, she’s going to be terrified when her evil stepmother tries to have her killed because she’s jealous of her being prettier than her.

However, even though her parents die when she is still young, she is forced to be a scullery maid in rags by her stepmother, and she forced to flee from her own kingdom when said stepmother tries to have her killed out of jealousy of her beauty, Snow White still does her best to remain cheerful, helpful, gracious, kindhearted, and selfless. That’s a really difficult thing for a lot of people to do when they’ve been put through a wringer of abuse, loss, mistreatment in life. It’s not easy to hold on to hope and kindness in the face of mistreatment and trauma. That’s what made the 1937 Snow White such a great role model. She didn’t need to be a girlboss to be strong.

Ginnifer Goodwin is a great actress, she is beautiful, and she made a pretty badass Snow White on OUAT in the first three seasons. To be fair, though, it wasn’t her fault that Adam and Eddy destroyed her character, David’s character, and every other main character on that show who lasted past the first two-and-a-half to three seasons. They ran out of story to tell after the Neverland arc, and tried to keep redoing the same arcs for the characters over and over again until they became shells of their former selves.

Rachel Zegler is such a brat. She’s definitely the most disrespectful and obnoxious young actress they’ve chosen to cast for these unnecessary live action Disney remakes. Yeah, Emma Watson and Hallie Bailey were mildly bratty, but even with them you could tell they were just spouting Disney’s “woke” agenda to not ruin their contracts. Hallie Bailey at the very least seemed to enjoy playing Ariel, and tried to honor Jodie Benson somewhat. Rachel’s absolute arrogance, greediness, and disrespect for the animated Disney source material is the worst yet, though.

Rachel Zeglar: I’m gonna be the first Snow White who is not going to be a damsel in distress dreaming about true love and instead she’ll learn to become a fighter and a great leader for her kingdom! No one’s ever done an independent Snow White before!

Me:

[coalitiongirl]

Hello! Do you have any favourite Regal Believer fic to recommend (your fics or someone else's)? I find myself missing this relationship a lot these days and I need some good fanfic to keep my little heart warm 💕

i love them.......every time i see a gifset i'm overwhelmed by how dear they are to me 🩵 i feel like in recent years i've become much more interested in henry's dynamic with emma too?? back in the day i actually remember resisting even talking about it because the entire narrative was so anti-adoption and it felt like everyone had to fight just to give regal believer the space and narrative it deserved.

but then because of that (and because with ouat the only relationships that are good are the ones that happen in spite of the writers) regina and henry got this gorgeous fleshed out love story while it feels like emma and henry kind of drift apart over the years without it ever being dealt with in canon and i just wanna fix it. and tbh when i really like a canon story i find myself writing less fic to fix it, lol.

these are my personal stories that i tagged for regal believer (it's present in most fics but i only tag it when it's really central to the story!) and these are the ones that are more swan-mills family. this was one i read recently and really loved......i took such a long hiatus from fic that it's hard for me to remember titles of other ones.

but now is a FABULOUS time for people to rec others below!! i had such good fortune last time i asked for recs i know y'all have Taste

(also idk about the anon but if you rec something that features a non-sq ship then please warn me lol)

[glowyjellyfish]

I started rewatching OUAT. Apparently my brain decided it was just time. I considered doing a full liveblog with silly gifs, but that would be a lot more effort than I want to put into it.

1. I know I still have one follower from my OUAT days, but am not sure about anybody else. So to recap: I loved OUAT to pieces and probably put more thought into things like the timeline and side characters than the writers did. And I loved OUAT in Wonderland EVEN MORE and still think they did a better job on that tightly plotted story than meandering on OUAT. I stopped watching mid-season 4, after they did and didn’t do several things to my favorite characters that broke my faith in the quality, but I did keep watching and mostly enjoying through the Frozen arc and the main reason I didn’t continue was just… I never got the urge to watch a new episode again. And then I was glad I stopped when I did, because what little I heard about it sounded increasingly dumb, bonkers, and, in the case of that soft reboot or whatever that was, insulting. I’m only planning to rewatch the first two seasons plus Wonderland, but if I’m enjoying myself I will probably keep going until I am not. Probably making more fun of it than before.

2. My favorites, in rough order of when I glimpse into them, are Graham, Dr. Whale, Neal, and Will. Anyone familiar with the show will probably understand exactly how the show broke my heart. I also love Rumple and Regina, and find the rest of the main cast pretty great, but there is a difference between loving a character and A Favorite.

3. I watched through the first five episodes, and was pleased to find I still liked it, and not only that, I still felt it was pretty good overall. The cheesiest parts so far are the fairy outfits, the CG, the Cinderella parts of the Cinderella episode, and some awkward dialogue when a writer didn’t know how to write old fashioned well. It shines in its characters, and the development of Regina and Rumple has so far been the absolute highlight. Emma has never been particularly high on my list of beloved characters, but she delivers fantastic feelings throughout. I know logically that way too much focus will be given to them down the road, but Snow and Charming are so damn charming and cute. The parallels between the flashbacks and the present day are also really well done, using them for character development. That’s something I think the show fumbled a little with after season 1, and got worse and worse about over time, and I also think it’s something OUATW did EXTREMELY well. But I’ll see how it looks as I watch it.

4. I do wish the show had been a little bit more clear about the town being basically in a time loop, because man what a fucked up place to raise a child. I guess they wanted to pretend it could just be Henry’s imagination for a while there to hedge their bets, but why not have Henry say “I was in the same class as that kid last year and now he’s still 9 and in third grade and I’m 10 now, what more proof do you need??” (And then Regina starts insisting he skipped a grade or something). I’m not anti-Regina at all, but lady you cannot raise a child and have him be the only person that ages and expect him to grow up normal.

5. I was on Regina’s side re Emma not being allowed to come into Henry’s life up until Regina started doing illegal shady shit to try to force Emma to leave. That’s obviously the point, but she really shot herself in the foot.

6. …I feel so bad for Graham. Poor guy. He’s the one sticking point that I wish Regina had ever made up for or felt bad about. She’s super sympathetic until you remember she literally had a sex slave who she then murdered. I mean, she’s the evil Queen, I did not expect her to behave otherwise. They just really wanted to quietly forget about it when they wanted to redeem her. Also, was Graham’s wolf dragged along to the curse—was the wolf cursed, too? Or did the wolf spend 28 years running around the woods, trying to figure out what happened to Graham and why his brother didn’t come to the woods with him anymore? The wolf also made Emma stay in town the first night, so my gut says “the wolf knew what was up”. Ugh, if I was writing the show I would have made Graham’s spirit survive death by going into his wolf and then bring him back later, like a certain wolf-bonded man from another fandom I love, but ugh it’s fine. I feel bad for him, but the character was clearly designed to flirt with Emma and then die.

7. I also think it’s fucking wild that, while cursed, Rumple somehow managed to procure for Regina a child that was both the son of the breaker of the curse and his grandson. I expect it’s a function of the breakability of the curse that Emma’s son was brought in—that perhaps Rumple was aware of that when he was going to lengthy measures to set up a trigger for his memories and everything else. I guess, within what I remember of the show thus far, Henry being his grandson and thus his downfall is the price he’s paying for constructing this elaborate curse manipulating generations of people to get his son back? Idk, we’ll see.

8. So like… if most people are cursed in a specific way that denies them what they love most, and some people definitely had details specifically curated by Regina personally, and Regina also had to go out of her way to make sure and curse Jefferson and Whale, because they weren’t in Fairy Tale Land at the time… well, I’m just wondering whether Whale’s cursed womanizer personality is because it’s amusingly apt for Dr. Frankenstein, or if it’s something Regina designed for him specifically because she saw him as breaking her heart, or something.

9. Not really feeling any ships atm. I never shipped Swan Queen, but periodically a scene between Emma and Regina will make me go “…okay I get it.” In theory I ship Emma/Graham, but mostly I shipped it because I loved him and felt so bad for him. Snow and Charming are precious, but I never found there to be much point in shipping them because they’re so canon, and they’re not the type of couple I find most intriguing. I should note that I was always actively against Emma/Hook, and really Emma/anyone; I wanted her to take more time for herself. I loved Neal, but didn’t particularly care whether he ended up with Emma, and felt that reducing him to a point on a love triangle is what made the writers get rid of him despite there being SO MUCH MORE they could do with him. I used to ship Whale/Ruby, we’ll see how I feel about that this time but I do still believe it was being set up for a while. And I still ship Rumple/Belle and Will/Ana. We’ll get there. I am sort of hoping I will spot new ships to ship as I go along, but perhaps not because I do know how things go for the most part.

And that’s all so far. I really don’t know that anybody will care, but I like giving my little reports if I cannot muster up the wherewithal to actively liveblog.

A few gifs describing Rumple because they amused me:

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#5

Me descending into the rabbit hole that is a ship of a fandom I’m not even in: “this is fine :)”

33 notes - Posted February 14, 2022

#4

So I noticed something, antis of these characters be like-

A lot of people who hate Amy Rose and Marinette have listed the same reasons why theyre a horrible character (i.e “shes annoying”, “her only personality trait is being obsessed over a guy”)

But y’all miss the reasons why they’re great characters actually

-they’re kind and sweet-natured and love their friends dearly

-they’re great leaders (look at Amy in the Archie comics, Ladybug with the other heroes)

-they have been the reasons as to why so many characters change their point of view (Amy with Shadow, E-Alpha 100 in Sonic Adventure 2, and Silver in 06’, Marinette befriending Kagami, Fei and several others)

-can hold their own, they don’t really need a man to save them but fell in love with Sonic/Adrien for their kindness (Amy being saved from Metal Sonic on Little Planet, Adrien giving Marinette the umbrella)

It’s not that they’re horrible characters, the writers need to write them better

34 notes - Posted June 4, 2022

#3

The serotonin I get every time I hear the lyrics “I can still make the whole place

SHIMMER”

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“Nothing can save us forever, but a lot of things can save us today”

-Mae Borowski

IM TELLING YOU THE DIALOGUE IN THIS GAME IS 🔥🔥🔥

96 notes - Posted September 3, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

I finally got to this part in NITW and this speech that Mae gives-

“When I die, I want it to hurt, when my friends leave, when I have to let go, when this entire town is wiped off the map, I want it to hurt. Bad” I want to loose, I want to get beaten up, I want to hold on, until I’m thrown off and everything ends and you know what? Until that happens, I want to hope again and I want it to hurt. Because that means it meant something. It means I am.. Something at least. Petty amazing to be something, at least.”

ALWAYS makes me tear up, even though this game doesn’t have much action, it’s dialogue REALLY packs a punch

118 notes - Posted May 29, 2022

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[rumbelle-scream]

literal hearts in Belle's eyes right there... and that's crazy considering where they went with the story !

this subplot was trash fire dump, id rather just pretend Regina took Belle's heart out when she was grieving and told her to jump the next single man in the library, which was Will, and she came to her senses when Rumple got her heart back.

easy-fuckin-peasy, fixed it, no prob, that's what happened within SIX WEEKS that she exiled her man powerless, disabled, and without resources in the Land Without Magic. 🪄

I have looked at you in millions of ways and I have loved you in each ಥ﹏ಥ

[hrhdhead]

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[kyliafanfiction]

I kind of loathe that they created that whole history between Eva and Cora and Leopold? Like, it kind of -

I don't like it. But it really is their whole schtick, isn't it? Everyone always related to everyone else.