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loststarsabove · 2 years ago
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1. This is quite possibly the worst episode of the show so far and I wish I could bleach it from my brain forever.
2. Genuine question. Did the writers actually hate Rumbelle? Because it sure seems like it.
3. I am not here for the Belle & Hook friendship. (Bring back Ruby)
4. I love Karen David.
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rumbelle-scream · 8 months ago
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oh god where's the link 😭 edit: here
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Robert Carlyle and Emilie de Ravin discussing their improvised kiss in 6x22 
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chippedteacupchat · 3 months ago
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Is it just me, or was Hook the writers' favorite and Rumple their least favorite?
Because Rumple's character gets screwed over so many times, and every time it happens, who comes out looking more holy and heroic? If you said Hook, you'd be right.
What makes it even more annoying to me is that the show tries to present Hook and Emma's relationship as the best and healthiest (because it was the writers' favorite). However, instead of showing us reasons why it's healthy, they just make the other couples worse. For example, CaptainSwan got together in season 4 and that same year, Rumbelle was ruined and OutlawQueen was ruined because of Marian!
This isn't to say I hate Hook, because I don't. I wanted Hook and Rumple to be written well together.
(I also still ship CaptainSwan but still, this bugs me)
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raviolitin · 20 days ago
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The fact they make Hook saving David from his dreamshade poisoning into a captain swan thing will never fail to make me angry
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ouatsnark · 1 month ago
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I'm sure you've talked about this on hear before but its hard to tell sometimes.
What are your thoughts on what Neal/Baelfire did to Emma? Because I don't see it talked about a lot about what he did to her. Concerning the fact that she was like 16 and he was over 200 or so years old.
As you read this I need everyone to focus in on this one thing: So. Just to be clear. I do not believe the show correctly portrayed the reality of this relationship. For that reason… things get dicey. So the opinion I am going to give is based on what canon has given us and what I feel OUAT was portraying. Because these two things are in direct conflict when it comes to Swanfire.
According to the timeline, we know that Emma was 16 and Neal states he is 150. That isn’t quite possible with Killian being 200-300 but whatever we’re gonna role with it. When we get to the Emma and Neal scenes their age difference wasn’t retconned. It wasn’t re-written. The writers just didn’t acknowledge, or think about or consider Emma’s canon age when they were writing the scenes. So we don’t see this relationship being portrayed as a predatory one (even though technically it should’ve been). I have seen people try to head canon it in there by pointing to what they perceive Emma’s motives to be in how she responds to Neal but that’s a personal opinion/evaluation of the character. Which is valid. But from a canon perspective? It’s not what the show was going for. In my opinion.
I say this because I would bet money that the majority of general audience viewers, those that casually watched therefore don’t know a lot about the timeline, do not know that Emma should have been 16 in those scenes. I say this because at that time I was one of those people. I had no idea Emma was suppose to be 16. It wasn’t until I joined the fandom and looked at a timeline that I went “holy shit.” I feel like the show was counting on this to get away with it. In my opinion they used JMO instead of the teenage actress for this very reason. OUAT wanted to completely ignore the age difference and portray a relationship between two consenting adults. Neal was not written to be a predator. Neal and Emma were portrayed as two orphans that connected over their shared trauma of being abandoned by their parents and who were of similar ages.
Can statutory rape have an effect on a fictional character when the fictional character isn't being portrayed as a minor in the scenes (because the writers aren’t acknowledging it) and what's being shown is between two consenting adults? Canonically speaking Emma has never specifically told us that she has any trauma from statutory rape. How could she when the scenes aren’t being written that way (despite the fact that they should be)? Emma has only specifically spoken about Neal abandoning her. What we saw was a toxic relationship in the sense that Neal was a self-centered coward.
But at the same time you can’t deny the simple canon fact that Emma is 16 when she meets 150 year old Neal. Do I find that disgusting? Yes. Do I think this should’ve affect Emma in some way? Yes. Do I feel like this was shown on the show? No. But I very much wish the show would've addressed it. Actually, what they should’ve done is just not have made Henry Rumple's grandson. But here we are.
I feel like this was a major flaw in the Swanfire relationship and for this reason alone I will never get behind that ship. Everyone should be appalled at the writing. The Once Upon a Time writers were so very negligent that I feel like they should be barred from writing all together. They created some compelling stories and interesting dynamics but when their writing failed they failed epically.
I covered this a little bit in this post here:
P.S. I am way behind on my inbox because life has gotten away from me.
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Oh lord, this whole plot was such a clusterfuck from start to finish.
Basically there was a leaked ABC recap where it is stated that Regina takes Belle's heart without Belle's permission. However the show muddled that up by either deleting the scene or never filming it.
Then, I kid you not, A&E just forgot all about her knowing. Because Belle getting used and abused to hurt Rumple is no big deal right? Why should anyone care? It's just Belle after all. (Sarcasm)
I hate this show. 🤮
I made a recap with the receipts here for anyone interested to revisit the madness.
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i've probably ranted about it a hundred times already...
but BUT the way regina stole belle's heart? the scenes don't make sense. the characters don't make sense.
i liked the rumple&will team up to steal belle's heart, but on belle's side, it's not making sense! regina asked belle for her heart, and yet she's clueless when it was returned? regina's not supposed to pull hearts and order people against their wills either! there was no need! she overstepped! and did i mention how it never got brought up again!?
the subplot ends with belle looking at rumple longingly, like she remembered that "oh! i love him." then follows the apparent breakup between belle and will. (oh, and his place in this show also doesn't make sense!)
ergo, this is my most hated plotline. above all the s5-s7 weirdness, this is one where i don't even consider it canon. there's always a better, alternate version of the situation in my head. my headcanon pieces this stupid stupid situation together.
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caliburn-the-sword · 1 year ago
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like yeah, regina was bad because she committed all that genocide and child abuse and what not, but you know what?? she was also SUCH a major L, and that's the biggest crime of all. like whenever making fun of killian, she just ALWAYS targets the low hanging fruit, his disability or gender non conformity, and it's like bro, at least be CREATIVE with it. tell him that JD's calling because he wants his coat back. not only would that be ten times funnier than any insult regina's ever used (because it's not the same old recycled bs that she constantly uses), it would also COMPLETELY baffle him because he wouldn't get the reference, and that would probably hurt more than knowing exactly what he's being targeted for
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sassyandclassy94 · 4 months ago
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I'm watching Once Upon a Time for the first time and I've reached season 2 so far! I really enjoyed season 1, but I can already feel my interest in the show decreasing after the curse was broken. Plus, I'm not sure I want to watch all seven seasons as that feels like too much. Is there any particular point that would be a good place to stop? What are the best seasons?
Hi!! I recommend stopping after they come back from Neverland. I myself have a hard time stomaching it after a particular character’s death. After Neverland they became 100% fan service, character regression, and started glorifying toxic relationships. Adam and Eddie dropped the ball when they scrapped their original plan for what loud and horny teenagers demanded. It lost its magic after season 3a
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kyliafanfiction · 9 months ago
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I loathe how 1x11 makes Leopold seemingly perfect, and we never really get a look at any other side of the story.
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gch1995 · 1 year ago
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Even the 1937 Snow White wasn’t just a helpless damsel-in distress. She gets saved by men twice throughout the story, and the Huntsman spares her life. However, you also have to remember that Snow White is the youngest princess in these stories and the most sheltered one. She’s somewhere between 13-14 years old. Of course, she’s going to be terrified when her evil stepmother tries to have her killed because she’s jealous of her being prettier than her.
However, even though her parents die when she is still young, she is forced to be a scullery maid in rags by her stepmother, and she forced to flee from her own kingdom when said stepmother tries to have her killed out of jealousy of her beauty, Snow White still does her best to remain cheerful, helpful, gracious, kindhearted, and selfless. That’s a really difficult thing for a lot of people to do when they’ve been put through a wringer of abuse, loss, mistreatment in life. It’s not easy to hold on to hope and kindness in the face of mistreatment and trauma. That’s what made the 1937 Snow White such a great role model. She didn’t need to be a girlboss to be strong.
Ginnifer Goodwin is a great actress, she is beautiful, and she made a pretty badass Snow White on OUAT in the first three seasons. To be fair, though, it wasn’t her fault that Adam and Eddy destroyed her character, David’s character, and every other main character on that show who lasted past the first two-and-a-half to three seasons. They ran out of story to tell after the Neverland arc, and tried to keep redoing the same arcs for the characters over and over again until they became shells of their former selves.
Rachel Zegler is such a brat. She’s definitely the most disrespectful and obnoxious young actress they’ve chosen to cast for these unnecessary live action Disney remakes. Yeah, Emma Watson and Hallie Bailey were mildly bratty, but even with them you could tell they were just spouting Disney’s “woke” agenda to not ruin their contracts. Hallie Bailey at the very least seemed to enjoy playing Ariel, and tried to honor Jodie Benson somewhat. Rachel’s absolute arrogance, greediness, and disrespect for the animated Disney source material is the worst yet, though.
Rachel Zeglar: I’m gonna be the first Snow White who is not going to be a damsel in distress dreaming about true love and instead she’ll learn to become a fighter and a great leader for her kingdom! No one’s ever done an independent Snow White before!
Me:
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#anti Rachel Zegler#anti 2024 live action Snow White#it’s not even so much the fact that they’re making Snow White more of a girl boss in and of itself that is the issue#it’s the fact that they are deliberately making Snow White more of a girl boss to be a middle finger to the original story and Disney movie#we’ve had more girl boss interpretations of Snow White before but they weren’t written with the intent to denigrate the strength of the og#they were just written to give her more of an arc in modern stories#while the other more modern versions of snow got to have more girl boss moments they were still allowed to be victims who got saved brooks#women who are victims of abuse don’t have to be physically strong and powerful girlbosses to be worthy of being loved and saved by others#it’s also gross how Zegler and these producers keep insinuating that og Snow White didn’t deserve to be saved because she wasn’t a girlboss#because not every abuse victim gets the opportunity to fight for themselves#sometimes victims need to be rescued by other people from abuse and danger because they can’t fight for themselves#it doesn’t mean they’re less worthy of being loved and saved if they can’t fight for themselves against abuse though#snow white ouat#I liked OUAT snow from S1-S3 before A&E and the writers ruined her and every other remaining main character on that show afterwards#because they ran out of ideas#also what is so wrong with a woman wanting to find love in her life particularly when she’s been abused and mistreated by others so much?
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coalitiongirl · 5 months ago
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Hello! Do you have any favourite Regal Believer fic to recommend (your fics or someone else's)? I find myself missing this relationship a lot these days and I need some good fanfic to keep my little heart warm 💕
i love them.......every time i see a gifset i'm overwhelmed by how dear they are to me 🩵 i feel like in recent years i've become much more interested in henry's dynamic with emma too?? back in the day i actually remember resisting even talking about it because the entire narrative was so anti-adoption and it felt like everyone had to fight just to give regal believer the space and narrative it deserved.
but then because of that (and because with ouat the only relationships that are good are the ones that happen in spite of the writers) regina and henry got this gorgeous fleshed out love story while it feels like emma and henry kind of drift apart over the years without it ever being dealt with in canon and i just wanna fix it. and tbh when i really like a canon story i find myself writing less fic to fix it, lol.
these are my personal stories that i tagged for regal believer (it's present in most fics but i only tag it when it's really central to the story!) and these are the ones that are more swan-mills family. this was one i read recently and really loved......i took such a long hiatus from fic that it's hard for me to remember titles of other ones.
but now is a FABULOUS time for people to rec others below!! i had such good fortune last time i asked for recs i know y'all have Taste
(also idk about the anon but if you rec something that features a non-sq ship then please warn me lol)
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glowyjellyfish · 2 years ago
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I started rewatching OUAT. Apparently my brain decided it was just time. I considered doing a full liveblog with silly gifs, but that would be a lot more effort than I want to put into it.
1. I know I still have one follower from my OUAT days, but am not sure about anybody else. So to recap: I loved OUAT to pieces and probably put more thought into things like the timeline and side characters than the writers did. And I loved OUAT in Wonderland EVEN MORE and still think they did a better job on that tightly plotted story than meandering on OUAT. I stopped watching mid-season 4, after they did and didn’t do several things to my favorite characters that broke my faith in the quality, but I did keep watching and mostly enjoying through the Frozen arc and the main reason I didn’t continue was just… I never got the urge to watch a new episode again. And then I was glad I stopped when I did, because what little I heard about it sounded increasingly dumb, bonkers, and, in the case of that soft reboot or whatever that was, insulting. I’m only planning to rewatch the first two seasons plus Wonderland, but if I’m enjoying myself I will probably keep going until I am not. Probably making more fun of it than before.
2. My favorites, in rough order of when I glimpse into them, are Graham, Dr. Whale, Neal, and Will. Anyone familiar with the show will probably understand exactly how the show broke my heart. I also love Rumple and Regina, and find the rest of the main cast pretty great, but there is a difference between loving a character and A Favorite.
3. I watched through the first five episodes, and was pleased to find I still liked it, and not only that, I still felt it was pretty good overall. The cheesiest parts so far are the fairy outfits, the CG, the Cinderella parts of the Cinderella episode, and some awkward dialogue when a writer didn’t know how to write old fashioned well. It shines in its characters, and the development of Regina and Rumple has so far been the absolute highlight. Emma has never been particularly high on my list of beloved characters, but she delivers fantastic feelings throughout. I know logically that way too much focus will be given to them down the road, but Snow and Charming are so damn charming and cute. The parallels between the flashbacks and the present day are also really well done, using them for character development. That’s something I think the show fumbled a little with after season 1, and got worse and worse about over time, and I also think it’s something OUATW did EXTREMELY well. But I’ll see how it looks as I watch it.
4. I do wish the show had been a little bit more clear about the town being basically in a time loop, because man what a fucked up place to raise a child. I guess they wanted to pretend it could just be Henry’s imagination for a while there to hedge their bets, but why not have Henry say “I was in the same class as that kid last year and now he’s still 9 and in third grade and I’m 10 now, what more proof do you need??” (And then Regina starts insisting he skipped a grade or something). I’m not anti-Regina at all, but lady you cannot raise a child and have him be the only person that ages and expect him to grow up normal.
5. I was on Regina’s side re Emma not being allowed to come into Henry’s life up until Regina started doing illegal shady shit to try to force Emma to leave. That’s obviously the point, but she really shot herself in the foot.
6. …I feel so bad for Graham. Poor guy. He’s the one sticking point that I wish Regina had ever made up for or felt bad about. She’s super sympathetic until you remember she literally had a sex slave who she then murdered. I mean, she’s the evil Queen, I did not expect her to behave otherwise. They just really wanted to quietly forget about it when they wanted to redeem her. Also, was Graham’s wolf dragged along to the curse—was the wolf cursed, too? Or did the wolf spend 28 years running around the woods, trying to figure out what happened to Graham and why his brother didn’t come to the woods with him anymore? The wolf also made Emma stay in town the first night, so my gut says “the wolf knew what was up”. Ugh, if I was writing the show I would have made Graham’s spirit survive death by going into his wolf and then bring him back later, like a certain wolf-bonded man from another fandom I love, but ugh it’s fine. I feel bad for him, but the character was clearly designed to flirt with Emma and then die.
7. I also think it’s fucking wild that, while cursed, Rumple somehow managed to procure for Regina a child that was both the son of the breaker of the curse and his grandson. I expect it’s a function of the breakability of the curse that Emma’s son was brought in—that perhaps Rumple was aware of that when he was going to lengthy measures to set up a trigger for his memories and everything else. I guess, within what I remember of the show thus far, Henry being his grandson and thus his downfall is the price he’s paying for constructing this elaborate curse manipulating generations of people to get his son back? Idk, we’ll see.
8. So like… if most people are cursed in a specific way that denies them what they love most, and some people definitely had details specifically curated by Regina personally, and Regina also had to go out of her way to make sure and curse Jefferson and Whale, because they weren’t in Fairy Tale Land at the time… well, I’m just wondering whether Whale’s cursed womanizer personality is because it’s amusingly apt for Dr. Frankenstein, or if it’s something Regina designed for him specifically because she saw him as breaking her heart, or something.
9. Not really feeling any ships atm. I never shipped Swan Queen, but periodically a scene between Emma and Regina will make me go “…okay I get it.” In theory I ship Emma/Graham, but mostly I shipped it because I loved him and felt so bad for him. Snow and Charming are precious, but I never found there to be much point in shipping them because they’re so canon, and they’re not the type of couple I find most intriguing. I should note that I was always actively against Emma/Hook, and really Emma/anyone; I wanted her to take more time for herself. I loved Neal, but didn’t particularly care whether he ended up with Emma, and felt that reducing him to a point on a love triangle is what made the writers get rid of him despite there being SO MUCH MORE they could do with him. I used to ship Whale/Ruby, we’ll see how I feel about that this time but I do still believe it was being set up for a while. And I still ship Rumple/Belle and Will/Ana. We’ll get there. I am sort of hoping I will spot new ships to ship as I go along, but perhaps not because I do know how things go for the most part.
And that’s all so far. I really don’t know that anybody will care, but I like giving my little reports if I cannot muster up the wherewithal to actively liveblog.
A few gifs describing Rumple because they amused me:
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hrhdhead · 1 year ago
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rumbelle-scream · 8 months ago
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literal hearts in Belle's eyes right there... and that's crazy considering where they went with the story !
this subplot was trash fire dump, id rather just pretend Regina took Belle's heart out when she was grieving and told her to jump the next single man in the library, which was Will, and she came to her senses when Rumple got her heart back.
easy-fuckin-peasy, fixed it, no prob, that's what happened within SIX WEEKS that she exiled her man powerless, disabled, and without resources in the Land Without Magic. 🪄
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I have looked at you in millions of ways and I have loved you in each ಥ﹏ಥ
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gch1995 · 4 years ago
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No one hates OUAT more than those of us in the fandom who actually watched it and/or followed it long enough to fully realize just how disappointingly awful, hopeless, and ridiculous the writing became in the piss poor excuse for canon the show devolved into the longer it went on, even though it was supposed to “be fun” and “give us hope.” At least all of its beautiful wasted potential became an outlet for far superior writing in our headcanons and fanfiction, though, no matter how shitty the actual show got.
I always feel so bad for newbies in the fandom who haven’t yet uncovered the horrific clusterfuck of bad writing this show ultimately devolved into. A part of me always feels like telling new fans to just spare themselves the pain, and to just quit watching after the Neverland arc. The majority of those of us in the OUAT fandom agree that the show’s writing ultimately devolved into a painfully biased, cheaply shocking, cheesy, wildly inconsistent, melodramatic, nonsensical, pandering, repetitive, and wildly ooc unsalvageable mess of bad writing that made us feel angry, betrayed, bored, and disgusted more often than not after that.
However, even after the show’s writing went completely off the rails beyond all salvaging, there were still those gold nuggets of wasted potential for characters, relationships, and storylines that could have and should have been amazing, if Kitsowitz and these writers actually had been able to be consistently competent and professional at their jobs. Particularly when looking back at the first two-and-a-half seasons of OUAT, I feel a great sense of disappointment at just how much beautiful and interesting potential they ultimately wasted in these characters and relationships in favor of blatantly biased, cheaply shocking, contrived, nonsensical, mutually toxic, wildly ooc, repetitive, and thus, character destroying magical soap opera melodrama.
There’s always this deep sense of disappointment in me over the amazing show that canon OUAT ultimately could have and should have been whenever I see all of those golden nuggets of tragically wasted potential Kitsowitz and these writers showed us in those moments when they were actually being competent show-runners and writers, particularly in S1-2A before they show got too distracted by the next big contrived magical thing to actually let the characters slow down, talk to each other, hang out with each other, and grow and react like in-character and relatable human beings. If only they were able to ultimately write and stick to a consistent, relatable, gradual, realistic, and organic course of character development that actually would have ultimately made these characters, happy endings, redemption arcs, and/or regression arcs actually feel well-earned and satisfying in the end.
Instead, they ended up erasing, minimizing, and/or outright romanticizing certain bad behaviors and choices of their characters at certain points and the negative consequences and/or effects they had in regards to those they hurt and/or victimized.
Instead, they ended up outright derailing most of their characters normally and/or consistently previously established complex, intelligent, and sympathetic characterizations and/or positive development at one point or another in order to rerail them over and over and over again more and more post S3 in increasingly abrupt, cheaply shocking, contrived, disappointing, flanderdized, horrifying, melodramatically toxic, and nonsensical ways that made them suddenly come across as uncharacteristically unsympathetic and stupid out of nowhere.
Instead, they created absurdities out of nowhere to inorganically force the characters to regress in ways that contradicted all previously established canon characterization, continuity, and previously established logic on the show.
Instead, they selectively bent, broke, and contradicted their own rules of magic with less and less fairness, rhyme, or reason as every season passed the first.
If only they had consistently and fairly stuck to their own rules and limitations of what magic could and couldn’t do. If only they treated their characters as complex and relatable human beings and equals with compelling, consistent, and realistic personalities, flaws, conflicts, regressions, redemptions, and resolutions that drove their stories consistently, gradually, organically, and realistically because of who they were and/or developed into as people, rather than because nonsensical asspulled twists and/or magical macguffins demanded that these characters suddenly become whatever they needed them to become a certain way to create cheap shock value, suspense, drama, and repetitive storytelling, regardless of all previously established characterization, continuity, development, and logic in their own canon.
Instead, they decided to cherry pick favorite characters and/or ships to frame as “redeemed” in the narrative, even though they may not have actually done anything to earn it and/or regressed without any negative consequences for doing so, just because Emma and the Charmings accepted them as “family.”
Instead, they ended up slapping increasingly biased, petty, meaningless, and shallow “hero” and “villain” labels on all of their characters, regardless of how objectively and needlessly harmful their choices, behaviors, and reactions may have been to others, in spite of being on the “right” side.
But we all ultimately sustained ourselves in the OUAT fandom by imagining just how amazing these characters, their relationships, and their storylines could have and should have been, trying to disregard the character assassinating bad writing in the piss poor excuse for canon that OUAT ultimately devolved into, taking Kitsowitz and these writers golden nuggets of tragically wasted potential for these characters, their relationships, and creating far superior works of art with those golden nuggests of wasted potential in canon with our headcanons and fan fiction.
OUAT isn’t a show that stuck with most of us because we were impressed by its writing in canon. In fact, most of us are fully aware that there were writing choices in the piss poor excuse of canon OUAT our favorite characters and relationships on the show that were inexcusably awful, biased, cheesy, cheaply shocking, gross, offensive, inconsistent, nonsensical, tone-deaf, wildly ooc, and/or repetitive at one point or another. Honestly, if the main character and/or relationship lasted past S3 in the main cast, then Kitsowitz and the writers destroyed your favorite character and/or ship with bad writing at one point or another.
After the writers unceremoniously killed off Bae/Neal, and resurrected Rumple from the show’s most consistently relatable, realistic, sympathetic, and well-earned two-and-a-half season redemption arc from S1-3A, it became clear thet they ran out of story to tell after wrapping up the Neverland arc, and had no idea where else they were supposed to go with Emma, Regina, Hook, Rumple, Belle, Snow, David, and even Henry’s individual characters or relationships anymore.
We know canon OUAT became a shitshow of inexcusably bad writing. We know it became horrifying and stupid. However, most of us didn’t actually remain in this fandom because we agreed with the writing on the show. We latched onto it so strongly because of its amazing main cast. We latched on to it so deeply because it showed us how to not completely fuck up amazing, relatable, and compelling individual characters, their relationships, and their storylines with biased, hypocritical, ableist, classist, homophobic, racist, sexist, petty, cheaply shocking, gross, wildly ooc, flanderdized, melodramatic, pandering, repetitive, and nonsensical lazy plot-driven writing. Granted, these problems were starting to show up in canon OUAT’s writing as early on as S1. However, after 3A, the show’s writing completely went off the rails for everyone in the remaining main cast that lasted past S3, and these characters and their relationships never fully recovered what made them at all coherent, compelling, magical, relatable, and enjoyable to watch and get invested in in canon from S1-S3, in spite of their obvious flaws.
Most of us have remained in the OUAT fandom because the show’s shitty writing choices and wasted potential inspired most of us to tell far better stories than Kitsowitz and their team of hacks ultimately did.
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queenofglassbeliever · 3 years ago
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The mental gymnastics the writers went through to say that Anastasia has more reason to hate Drizella than Ella ever did must have been fucking phenomenal.
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