#Also one of the main c!Tommy arcs I think about

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Yeah that feels about right

I made a quiz! https://uquiz.com/JJzStq

Which Wilbur

Which Tubbo

Which Niki

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the narrative that c!tommy used c!techno is kind of diabolical tbh, people often forgot that c!tommy is fresh out of exile and doesn't consider the place that he's in.

He's running on pure instinct, fresh from suicide attempt and running from his abuser and the only one he can confide in is c!techno the criminal that destroyed his home country. Despite their history c!techno still took him in, but why? He could of just kick c!tommy from his house and let him run lose in the tundra of snow and let him survive on his own while c!drm sniff over his trails of footstep. But he took him in and protect him from the looming threat of his abuser.

And its sad, its very sad that even if c!Techno took c!Tommy in he used it as an opportunity. An opportunity to use c!Tommy as a pawn in his quest for anarchy. Now, you might be thinking, but c!techno took him in, take care of him and even defended c!tommy ,why are you painting him as this heartless villain that used an abused child for his own gains? Frankly, I try not to and maybe its also in the way i'am awful with articulating my words into something that make sense. I truly do not think c!Techno is heartless and his relationship with c!tommy does have a sincerity in it.

But I think my main point is that, there was a power imbalance between c!tommy and c!techno that people often overlooked. Like I said c!Tommy is fresh out of exile n traumatized n stuff and he's in a weaker position and his only hope in escaping his abuser is c!Techno since he is the only character thats is deadass near logstedshire and also one of the most powerful people in the esempi.

And also I just do not think painting an abuse survivor trying to find help as an act of... That, is a nice message you know 😁 haha- not to get real and get to the implication of stuff- but ahahaha, yk haha. ANYWAY.

I don't think c!techno is a heartless monster, like I said i think his relationship with c!tommy has sincerity within it. I think as time goes on, i think techno grew actual care toward tommy evidence by his interaction with tommy as time goes on growing more closer and affectionate and his strong reaction when tommy left him for tubbo.

But still, c!Techno treats tommy more of a pawn in his quest for anarchy, you also have to remember that he will send off c!tommy to his abuser again without a second though if c!drm used his favor. Of course, if you were in c!tommy place, why would you stay with a guy like that? He goes againts everything you stand for and you don't even know if you're safe with him. Maybe because he saved your life? Do you really owe him that much that you are willing to destroy your home and even fight your own best friend for him? Was it all transitional? Do I worth anything? Do I not matter as a living breathing human being? Am I not worth of safety?

I just wanna talk about my feeling about c!tommy and c!techno relationship in post-exile arc, because i think i find the narrative a bit icky if you are maybe a survivor of abusive relationship. I also wanna talk about the interesting bit of sincerity their relationship actually kind of have, that despite c!techno using c!tommy as pawn he does actually cares in the very end. Which is sad to think about

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BUCK / TOMMY - HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A FANDOM SCORNED!

I did some thinking. Never good, but my brain can't wrap around the breakup that came out of the left field.

Recently, it was announced that a spin-off of "9-1-1" is in the works. While no locations have been finalized, Hawaii and Las Vegas have been suggested as potential settings. The showrunner is already working on the project, with filming set to begin in March 2025.

However, one of my biggest fears has come true: the focus of the showrunners is being diverted from the current show to concentrate on this new spin-off. All the energy runs in the new project. Also, at this point, we don't know if the mothership will be renewed. Without an early renewal, we must wait until May for the announcement. That is another reason why they are focusing on the new show. I wonder if this is why the plots feel rushed and repetitive. It's nice to revisit the past, but not ad nauseam. 9-1-1 does it too often lately. What's the point in bringing back Gerard and turning him into the butt end of a joke? What's the point in digging out Abby's Tommy and hanging it around Tommy Kinard's neck when nothing was ever mentioned in the past. The focus is clearly not on the current show. It feels like Tim abandoned the ship to board a new one. It's fresh, it's crisp, it leaves room for a lot of things. Even if the breakup was meant as a shocker. If your focus is somewhere else, you don't see it. Right now, the mothership is leaking and starting to sink. If Tim keeps his focus on the new project and isn't invested in the current show, the lights will go out sooner rather than later.

Bringing in an established character was probably the biggest mistake Tim could have made if he wasn't meant to stick around. Bring in Mary Sue or Marty Stu to be a LI but not a character with a history that connects to so many people on the show. You can't sideline them forever. Especially as Buck's bi-arc was announced as something big. And it was big. A bit too big to be treated the way it was. The fanbase that had built around TEVAN, or BUCKTOMMY, within weeks, was massive. It drew so many members of the queer community into the show. Suddenly, many of them felt seen. Tommy and Buck were different from the other queer characters out there. Different from what was represented on any other show. People were willing to watch to get the slightest glimpse of them. Because they felt real. Their chemistry shot into the stratosphere.

And then you go and end it on such a horrible note? I don't care if the haters call Tommy a plot device. Everyone on the show is one at some point—even Christopher, Eddie, or anyone else from the main or recurrent cast, Karen, for instance, the Wilson kids. You name it. Tommy Kinard came, saw and conquered. So why not give him more room? They did it with Taylor (yes, I know JLH was pregnant then, but that's reason enough? I doubt it). As I said in my other long post, you could cut in a sequence of 5 minutes and show a summary of Tommy's and Buck's life.

Tim makes the same mistake as many showrunners do. Cramming a shitload of plots into 42 minutes of airtime. Is it really necessary to tell that many stories in such a short amount of time? That feels like speed dating. You blink, and you miss an important scene. Every episode, you jump from plot A to B to A to C to B. We didn't have this fast pacing in season 1 or 2. Stop it. Make Quality plots over quantity stuff.

In Tommy's voice: And for God's sake, clean up that mess you created with that shitty breakup, or the audience will wither away.

I'm sorry. I could write a book about what is happening in my head. You'd get Super Brownie points if you made it here.

[screechingsandwichhologram]

dsmp characters & how likely it is they are an avatar of each fear part one : ctommy

web : 1/10 - much much more likely to be a victim rather than an avatar. one point for shroud

eye : 3/10 - i think he'd be more likely to be a victim rather than an avatar. however in exile arc and just discduo in general he does come in contact with the eye a lot. he's watched. a lot. also he has become the main character so that's a point to the eye and hes being watched all the time about that. EDITED : previously i gave this 1/10. however someone in the tags pointed some things out so i have upped the points.

stranger : 0/10 - he's not stranger. at all.

spiral : 1/10 - again he's not spiral.

lonely : 11/10 - holy shit my god ctommy is so so so lonely to me. so so lonely. consider exile. consider pogtopia. consider any moment ever. he Is a lonely avatar

vast : 9/10 - there are SO many vast coded things about c!tommy. the tower. his limbo. even the sleepwalking into the sea feels vast to me

hunt : 0/10 - ctommy is not a vengeful person. not at all. it's like the main part of his character he could not be hunt

slaughter : 0/10 - again ctommy hates violence. nope

flesh : 1/10 - i can't really see it? but maybe slightly

buried : 5/10 - now this one i can see. and i think most of the reasoning for this is smaller stuff but i really do think ctommy would and could sit in the mud and sink forever. however he's also claustrophobic so minus one point for that

corruption : 3/10 - hmmm. my main reasoning is that he's totally the bugs are friends kinda guy. i don't think he's really into disease or like any of the other stuff tho. minus one point for being literally immune to the egg

desolation : 3/10 - okay so like the whole arson thing. i get it. however like all the other stuff is not his style. loss of potential ? like yeah but no

dark : 3/10 - the main point for this is his limbo. uh that's kinda it. i don't think he's necessarily opposed to the dark it's just not really too much of a thing

end : 2/10 - those points are for being dead.

extinction : 1/10 - he's not extinction. like in theory i can kinda kinda see it so that's the point but he's just so much about life and the little things and living in the moment that i really can't see extinction

end notes : lonely / vast combination avatar. victim of the web.

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The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am that they completely ignored Buck’s relationship with Hen, during his coming out. I loved him coming out to Maddie, because it was so him. He loves and trusts her with everything and is comfortably around her, so of course he’d slip up and come out. However! Buck loves Hen like a second sister, and she loves him like a little brother, so do you know how easy it would have been to have Hen, Maddie, and Buck out for coffee or at the grocery store, and him saying what he said, and slipping up in front of both of them!? And then the scene would have played so well, because on one hand we had Maddie seeming not nearly as unsurprised as she should have been, which, fine! If we had to have her not know, then so what. But Hen!? Hen knew, and they even had her make an off hand comment about it, so why starve us of her knowing before the rest of the team? Why starve of us of him having two people on his side, who he loves dearly, know this bright new thing about him, and not care? Because no one he loves cares he’s into men, and if they wanted to go forward with humor, having Maddie be like, “How did we get here then?” While Hen is like, “About damn time we got here!” While Buck is like, “I don’t know! How did you know!?” While he was also freaking out over the date going badly and lying to Eddie, would have fit perfectly well into the episode.

Uuuuuuuuugggggghhhhhh. Season seven was so mishandled. They worried about too many things being stuffed into the season, that the smallest changes would have made it feel cozy yet emotional, instead of all over the place.

Season A-plot (not the first half the season, but the actual main, overarching story of the season) should have focused on Bobby’s descent toward commuting su*c*de, yet not succeeding, and finally and truly getting help for this aspect of his mental health, instead of being able to hide it behind his alcoholism and guilt. Then the next bulk of screen time could have focused on Eddie’s spiral into grief as he once and for all dealt with Shannon being gone and no longer having the life he spent so many years trying to force into fruition.

Buck’s storyline then could have been spread out, and they could have better built up him figuring out his feelings and desire to date men, even with Tommy being sprinkled in. Then Hen’s storyline could have also gotten fleshed out, because it would have been able to breathe, and give us a little more reason to even maybe understand the Councilwoman. I mean, imagine had they wrote her into the first two or so episodes during the cruise arc, with Hen and her becoming acquaintances and bonding over whatever, only for her son to then die and so on? Then the weight and stakes would have felt much more personal, because it’d be a woman Hen thought she’d become friends with, doing a total flip on her, and using her political pull to ruin Hen’s life.

We could have had so much! Bobby and Eddie regressing into their trauma, while Buck and Hen questioned themselves in terms of who they are and what they can or have provided to others, but no. Instead it was all rushed and half assed.

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have you ever noticed how part of c!jack’s character is he is obscure and nobody really knows him and how in the fandom he is also obscure and nobody really knows him

Jack Manifold was never really given the time of day. Sure, he had a small part in the server (ultimately the one who ended the whole thing), but his presence was not respected all that much. Placed into the lowest rank of L’Manberg’s cabinet, killed by Wilbur Soot for ‘not being seen’. He never got a REAL apology for that, by the way. I will stand by the fact that Wilbit’s apology to Jack was manipulative, half-assed, and more for himself than Jack’s wellbeing. It was well before the ‘Apology arc’ and THAT IN OF ITSELF shows just how little it actually meant to Wilbur. He was just doing it to make himself feel better and didn’t actually have Jack’s feelings in mind.

The biggest thing I see going around is Tommy being excused for what he did to Jack. Killing him when Jack went to visit him in the Nether during his Exile. Tommy has trauma. We all know that. He was a victim to extreme manipulation and abuse and a slew of other things. Yet he blatantly ignores every attempt, denies and/or doesn’t fully grasp that he did what he did. Which I can understand because the dude went through severe trauma, but that’s not an excuse. He still needs to take the accountability for his actions.

Jack deserves so much more than he’s ever gotten and it SHOWS. He literally wants friends. That’s it. He wants friend and companionship and he wants what he THOUGHT he had. Because he never actually had it. If he had it Wilbur wouldn’t have killed him, Tommy would actually listen, and he would be shown an ounce of respect for his own traumas and hardships when he tries to talk about it all. All everyone does is dismiss, downplay, and invalidate c!Jack’s pain. That’s a big reason why he’s the way he is! Every other attempt to let himself express his issues ends in him feeling worse about himself.

And we’ve seen time and time again that everyone else Jack tries to talk to and vent to takes Tommy’s side! (Ex: Puffy) There’s bias that Tommy can do no wrong and is the ‘savior’ of the smp. But even if he’s the ‘main protagonist’ doesn’t diminish he causes pain.

They give the excuse that Tommy was a child, that children should be protected and yada yada. Jack was more-or-less a child when he first joined, too! He should have the same excuses, the same treatment as all the other kids on the smp but he doesn’t because he was left alone and had to grow up faster.

He didn’t have anyone to lean against, so he just never let himself fall. And when he inevitably did no one cared or batted an eye because no one was there. He died 3 times and no one batted an eye.

The fandom is so bias sometimes. I’m not huge on DAMP fanfics that involve Jack because they mischaracterize him so much. Put him as a bully in School AUs, make him mean and rude for no reason. The reason in canon is because no one gave a single fuck about him. (not including Niki) Jack had a reason for being ‘cruel’, no one else did. It comes with the fact that Jack’s POV just isn’t as watched, so people don’t know his side of things. But what bothers me is that it feels like fans don’t even try to see stuff from his point of view. He was abused, manipulated, killed, and used in his own right. If everyone else gets excuses for the shit they did, he deserves it too.

Below is how I interpreted Jack’s ending, and how, despite everything he’s gone through, his character gets some sort of ending that isn’t completely angsty. I acknowledge that Jack isn’t the morally-perfect character, that he was fueled by anger and rage. He had a slight victim complex. But from a more basic pov, and for the fans who don’t really understand his character, I think he was redemptive. In his own right.

REDEMPTION:

From its literal definition Redemption is “An act of redeeming or atoning for a fault or mistake, or the state of being redeemed. deliverance; rescue.” The state of being redeemed comes in many shapes and sizes. Actions and words big and small. For some it may take great showings of purpose and selflessness. For others it can be as simple as “I’m sorry.”

Someone can go their whole entire lives fighting with something they ultimately in the end agree with. A lot of it is a matter of perspective. Jack only had one perspective.

Jack was alone for most of his life on the dsmp. Yes he had friends in the beginning but wars and betrayal had him distancing himself and trying to find ways to fix it. None ever worked. Because he was alone. When you only work with one perspective you don’t understand the other side, and how it might actually clear things up and switch your own views.

It only took Jack a matter of minutes after arguing with Tubbo for him to realize he didn’t have the whole picture. Someone so close to Tommy, someone who WAS there to see the other side of things. Someone Jack trusts and respects, who’d he call a friend, to listen and then fight him on his thoughts even if it was in the form of an argument. Though he fucked up and killed everyone, I think his actions of still attempting to save Tommy with Tubbo have given him a bit of redemption. Not all, everyone has faults. But he was on the path to healing when he died. If only for a few minutes.

Jack died by his own hands trying to right his wrong. If that’s not a symbolic Jack ending I don’t really know what is.

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c!Dream and early aid for Pogtopia

(i promised this post so long ago rip)

There is a lot to say about c!Dream and the Pogtopia/Manberg era, especially because so many events in this period of time define the future of his character in very long-lasting ways. Much discussion has been focused particularly on the Vassal discussion and c!Dream's loyalties after--today, though, I want to focus on c!Dream's priorities before that discussion and what they might reveal about his goals.

First, I want to quickly link my post I made on c!Dream during the L'manburg Revolution, which establishes a few of the key c!Dreamisms that influence my read of him particularly pre-November 16th. Second, I want to point to a clip in the drodcast that emphasizes that the reason why c!Dream switched sides to Manberg was for the story's sake and in-universe therefore only happened because of the revive book deal, further indicating that the character had no prior intentions to turn against Pogtopia.

All that being said, there are a couple main points I want to make about (how I interpret) c!Dream in early Pogtopia.

c!Dream was already pretty obviously acting alone/isolated at the beginning of this arc

c!Dream was always genuine in his support for Pogtopia

There is more reason to believe in c!Dream's assertion that he wanted "L'manburg to be something" than the opposite

Starting wth point one, I think it's important to acknowledge how c!Dream emphasizes the idea of secrecy repeatedly during the beginnng of the Manberg/Pogtopia arc. He talks about how he has to provide support "from the shadows" in the Tyrant book, and he expresses similar sentiments when he gives supplies to c!Techno around this time as well. At the very least, when he was supplying aid at this point in time, he was pretty damn obviously acting alone--we see this as the arc progresses as well, when c!Dream helps c!Tommy in the Battle of the Lake and when he meets with Pogtopia during Vassal, for example.

Of course, acting alone doesn't necessarily mean isolation, although taking on a big + potentially dangerous task alone can lead to feelings of isolation regardless of that fact, but if we take a look at c!Dream at this time...sure he has friends, and people he's friendly with. But in terms of actual allies, he's kinda been on his own? c!George was decidedly part of Manberg due to the coalition at the start of the arc, and as far back as the Elections we see him claiming that he was "under Dream's rule" to explain that the decisions weren't his own in the Revolution.

Even though c!George obviously does not have high opinions of Wilbur and Tommy and their whole deal re: independence, we also see that no one really protests when c!Dream is called the "leader of tyranny."

And outside of this one debate, when we look at the actual events of the server...c!Dream enters into a few conflicts after the Revolution, all of which were not initiated by him. In these conflicts, he repeatedly has his items used as blackmail against him w/ the discs being the cited justification in a lot of cases (discs that were, once again, legally traded to him). And as far as these conflicts go, in terms of actual allies? There's really no one consistent at all? c!Sapnap outright teams with c!Tommy to get Dream's stuff until he turns on c!Tommy when he realizes opposing Dream isn't a good idea for him. c!Dream gets pulled into c!Sapnap's mess with the Pet Wars and therefore helps him hide their pets when the fight escalates--but at no point does c!Sapnap really outright support c!Dream in a conflict that involves him. c!Skeppy is also out here mostly in it for his own gain and was the one to steal Spirit's leather (from his. grave 😭) in the first place, like. Consistently, when c!Dream is involved in an actual conflict, he acts alone--before the Manberg/Pogtopia arc even begins. Mix in the fact that L'manburg was largely seen as an independent entity despite its technically being a part of the Dream SMP (and therefore Dream having to act accordingly) and the way that like the fandom, the L'manburg Revolution's aftermath brought in a lot of new members that further solidified the narrative in-universe (just like how a lot of new fans joined after the L'manburg Revolution, especially bc of the SAD-ist animation, which all served to solidify the l'manburg = heroes connection in the fandom as well) and the idea of c!Dream as the "bad guy" of the Revolution went relatively unchallenged (along with c!Eret, who obviously never shook the title of traitor.)

c!Dream was lacking in consistent allies and largely dealt with conflicts involving himself alone pre-Manberg/Pogtopia (gestures at how it's me and you against Dream was reiterated repeatedly), and when Manberg/Pogtopia began he had even more reason to act by himself. He was acting against the peace treaty by helping Wilbur and Tommy in Pogtopia, and a lot of the people he knew were friendly with or outright were a part of Manberg (George was a literal part of the government at the beginning, Karl was looking for wherever he could get an advantage, Sapnap is. Sapnap and shit was happening like the Battle of the Lake which literally involved kidnapping Niki, as well as other things)--c!Dream, at this point, is already used to working alone and had many reasons to continue doing so.

Onto point two: c!Dream was genuine in his support of Pogtopia throughout the arc until the point of the revive book deal. I want to point to the clip again from the drodcast, specifically how Dream says that before the conception of the revive book, c!Dream "literally switched for no reason we had no reason for me to switch [outside of the revive book]." This, plus the fact that what canonically does end up driving the decision to "switch sides" by publicly supporting c!Schlatt on November 16th is the literal revive book, all points to how c!Dream wasn't exactly going to side with c!Schlatt easily. It literally takes the whole ass revive book, the item that shatters his view of reality with its implications and was one of the central reasons why he had a paranoid spiral that involved him cooking up the prison for him to consider being on Schlatt's side.

Oftentimes, the arguments around c!Dream in this era and how he was manipulating the situation for his own gain boil down to two main moments where an assertion is made that c!Dream was playing both sides to make them destroy each other, those being Vassal and his speech to c!Eret on November 16th.

The first excerpt, Vassal, happened in early October, and the latter comes from the famous conversation c!Dream has with c!Eret on November 16th. And from these two excerpts, it can seem reasonable to believe that c!Dream's intentions were in the realm of helping both sides destroy each other, especially considering his saying that his plan is "there is no Manberg, there's no L'manburg, there's no Pogtopia, there's just Dream SMP an there's Dream SMP everywhere." But--regardless of whether or not you believe this statement, regardless of whether or not he wanted L'manburg gone from the beginning of this arc, it's undeniable that his actions do not support the claim that he was always planning to help Manberg to sabotage both sides.

The only reason why c!Dream helps c!Schlatt, and by extension Manberg, was the revive book. And this is made quite explicit both in and out of character. This man was calling Manberg L'manburg to Manberg's goddamn cabinet, for god's sake. As soon as the deal with the Election results go down, c!Dream aligns himself with Pogtopia. He supplies Manberg no aid until after the revive book deal and literally warns Pogtopia when he switches sides???? Even the claim that he wanted the two entities to destroy each other doesn't reflect the reality of him knowing that destruction would come at c!Wilbur's hands from the TNT, not from the fight between Manberg/Pogtopia in itself.

Even if you proceed with the reading that c!Dream wanted L'manburg dead and gone and wanted that from the beginning, he quite clearly was helping Pogtopia against Manberg in order to facilitate his goals and was not helping c!Schlatt until the revive book forced his hand.

The third point is the one most up for debate/based on interpretation, but I believe that, based on the information we have, it is more reasonable to believe that at the beginning of Manberg/Pogtopia c!Dream had no plans for the total destruction of L'manburg and didn't necessarily see that as one of his end goals for the server than to say that the opposite is true.

For one, going back to the revolution, c!Dream--even then--didn't have total annihilation of L'manburg as his end goal. He goes into that war knowing that he would give them "technical independence"--allowing them to exist as an entity, hell, allowing them to have 'independence' in some form (although obviously he finds the whole "we are our own server now actually" situation ridiculous). If there was ever any time to pursue the total destruction of L'manburg as an entity, it would've been then, before L'manburg was ever firmly established.

If we take c!Dream purely at his word (a dubious thing to do for sure, obviously, mans is a liar--but at the same time, c!Dream at that time was also a man that was known to generally keep his end of the deal) then c!Dream's motives at the beginning of Pogtopia are quite clear: the Tyrant book establishes the reasons why he opposes c!Schlatt, that he was able to maintain peace with L'manburg but did not feel that the same could be true as long as c!Schlatt was leader, and that "Schlatt is no Wilbur."

Later on, in Vassal, he reiterates these points, openly mocking c!Schlatt in connection with democracy and once again stating that he doesn't see Pogtopia as the bad guys + stating that c!Schlatt, unlike c!Wilbur, is unfit as a ruler because of his ambition.

Later on, when outright questioned about why he supports L'manburg now when he was the one that famously opposed them in the Revolution, he says this:

and obviously, right, he could be lying. I'm not discounting that. But it's rather notable, I think, that when it comes to c!Dream agreeing to give c!Wilibur TNT, that's in response to "I want to rig the city"--a city that, at that minute, was in enemy hands and a force that they were planning on fighting. c!Dream had pledged his allegiance to Pogtopia and specifically set a precedent of himself as an ally that would provide military aid and items (see: the gear he gives c!Techno and c!Tommy, Battle of the Lake, hell, he gives c!Tommy TNT literal minutes before Vassal while all but guarding him when c!Tommy is trying to antagonize Manberg in order to bring them back and keep them from discovering Pogtopia)--his support in this area does not, in my opinion, show clear support for the actual ideological reasons behind why c!Wilbur concludes he has to blow up L'manburg (and in Vassal, we actually see him push against those reasons several times, as shown below.)

And again, whether or not you think his disagreement is genuine or if you believe he was just fishing for information/how serious c!Wilbur actually was, I'd say that his words and action in this scene do, repeatedly, indicate a level of hesitance. He is not jumping the gun as soon as the opportunity presents itself for him to get rid of L'manburg once and for all--he's being cautious. Assessing. So much so that c!Wilbur picks up on it and outright threatens him, which is also the point in the conversation where c!Dream stops arguing back against any of the points that he makes:

And the point I'm making here isn't that c!Dream didn't want L'manburg to be destroyed when he agreed to give c!Wilbur the TNT. I think there does exist proof for this point, including whatever the hell Dream knew that Plan B had to happen...I'm so proud was supposed to mean, but that's not the point I'm specifically trying to make here. Rather, I think that until L'manburg's destruction is specifically brought up by c!Wilbur, there is little proof that shows c!Dream as specifically pursuing it/planning to get rid of it for the sake of a factionless server.

Sure, you can say that c!Dream's ideal server would've been a server without L'manburg on it. You could also say that c!Dream's ideal server at the time was a server where c!Tommy shut up abt the damn discs alread and a server where c!Sapnap stopped rampaging through the pet population on the server--there's a difference between "the ideal" and what he was specifically working towards. And the fact of the matter is, after the Revolution, c!Dream really doesn't have any conflicts with L'manburg itself. c!Tommy? Certainly--largely initiated by c!Tommy for the discs that he literally traded c!Dream during the revolutionary war. But c!Dream is hardly entering into faction conflict--he even says, in Tyrant, that they had peace between their two nations, and that it was C!SCHLATT'S election that disrupted that peace.

And c!Dream's particular dislike of factions is also something that I think has a tendency to get...overexaggerated? Especially because it's one of the foundational tenets of the L'manburg mythos--c!Dream is a control freak that opposed the idea of people getting together to make a "country" without him, etc etc. This is even something that is addressed in the Mexican L'manburg debates:

c!Dream doesn't like factions, true. He'd prefer a united server without them, true. But c!Dream being pushed into taking action against any particular faction really didn't start from him just, hating factions in the first place? There always was some kind of inciting incident. By the time of post-Nov 16th, he quite evidently recognizes that factions are going to continue to be a Thing--he never has any outright conflict with the Badlands, for example, because they don't really engage in conflict with him--and later he practically ignores El Rapids even after the whole debacle that was Mexican L'manburg. When c!Dream says "look you guys were fine because you were just existing" in the Tyrant book and in Vassal, that fits the pattern of how he deals with faction conflict on this server? (See, also, how he generally doesn't go after factions post-prison, despite making some implicit threats: the only faction that he goes after is LN, and even if you consider the fact that he probably had bigger fish to fry with the whole, world reset thing, once again factions don't really matter to him until he's registering them as an explicit threat.)

The Revolution was meant to prove a point, the point being don't fuck with me--a point that c!Wilbur clearly understood and abided by. And after the Revolution, c!Dream really never shows any inclinations of wanting conflict with L'manburg or wanting it gone the way that we see that as more consistent trait later on by the time we get to things like the revive book deal, and Nov. 16th, and especially in his dealings with NLM leading up to Doomsday the unfinished symphony, right?

And, you know, all of this makes sense. c!Dream knows that L'manburg isn't just about L'manburg itself, considering the damn story of L'manburg was established by c!Wilbur in like, what, a day? c!Dream and the Americans (tm) were established as the Enemy even though half of them literally weren't involved at all in the drug van conflict (and members of L'manburg had. Literally fought with c!Sapnap in said conflict??) and L'manburg grew out of that story in almost no time at all. c!Dream has zero reason to believe that the destruction of L'manburg in entirety is even possible--he literally didn't think it was possible in the Revolution! c!Dream's priorities for the server isn't a factionless server, it's a peaceful server--not to mention how he literally saw L'manburg as part of the Dream SMP anyway? As long as L'manburg the entity wasn't starting shit (which they weren't, not until Schlatt got elected and everything went to hell) c!Dream really doesn't have a motive to try and Start A Conflict against them (which is antithetical to the whole peaceful coexistence schtick that he was trying to get at) and really doesn't have much of a reason to think that any of that would even work either, considering how he was quite confident that the L'manburgians would never give up when L'manburg was like. A week old.

Of course, with Vassal and with c!Wilbur going "let me destroy it all" it's obviously perfectly possible that c!Dream was thinking hey, the guy that all of L'manburg respects and sees as leader wants L'manburg gone, this could possibly lead to L'manburg being fully dissolved and the server going back to being factionless and united and for that to motivate his later actions in the arc and his support of c!Wilbur. But Vassal still has to happen first. There really isn't any reason to believe that c!Dream was gunning for L'manburg's destruction at the start of the arc, and c!Dream really had every reason to believe that that wouldn't even be possible (and I mean, NLM had rebuilt itself literally like. In the span of a week? So.) Based on what we see, the most that can really be said imo about c!Dream here is that he's being opportunistic, and even then he expresses a level of hesitance throughout Vassal.

Considering how c!Dream supported Pogtopia from the beginning and only ends that alliance because of the revive book deal and considering how he acted in the time period between the Revolution and Manberg/Pogtopia, I think it's fair to state that c!Dream's statements of his end goal being to return to the "peace" that had existed pre-Manberg through the coexistence of L'manburg and DreamSMP, one side believing themselves independent and the other side believing that they're all part of the same server, was. His original end goal when Manberg/Pogtopia began. He had every reason to support Pogtopia over Manberg (and by extension, Wilbur over Schlatt) when you consider how Wilbur generally was willing to play nice with c!Dream post-revolution, a sentiment rather clearly not shared by c!Schlatt and his expansionist ideals. Even if c!Dream would've preferred a server without L'manburg, his actions as far back as the Revolution indicate to me that the likelihood of his actually creating any plans in that direction is rather small and that his sentiments of returning the server back to how it was in its pre-Manberg state are close to the truth. c!Dream isn't stupid enough to think that destroying L'manburg outright would've suddenly resulted in server peace--destabilizing shit by making everyone mad at him at that point in time really seems antithetical to his goals? It seems more likely to me that c!Dream, in alignment with his goals, at this point would prioritize a peaceful server over a factionless one, especially at a time pre-Manberg nonsense when the whole "L'manburg is an independent nation that Matters A Lot To Everyone" is just so deeply entrenched.

And obviously quite a few important changes happen to his character around this time, especially due to 1) Vassal and 2) the Revive Book Deal. I think that these two in particular have a lot to do with the character that we see in November 16th (when c!Dream is already acting quite a lot more like how he will continue to act over the next two months up until staged finale, and when he's already a little bit more, uh. Unhinged than we've seen him, looks at his laughter when c!Wilbur detonates the TNT.) And obviously a lot of the important development that happens at this time (such as his spending time with c!Wilbur in Pogtopia + the. Everything with c!Schlatt, the book deal, shakes everyone about the book deal again) happens off-screen, so we have to speculate a bit. But at the end of the day, when c!Dream is considered in the context of who he was before Manberg/Pogtopia began as well as who he ends up being at the end of the arc, it definitely feels to me that these early moments shouldn't be as wholly dismissed as an act/front/lies what have you as they commonly are.

[quixtrix]

anyways because i think the person blocked me while i was out, dont go around speculating people's trauma beyond what they've given. while yes, its possible they're expressing it through their art, it's disrespectful and violating their privacy to speculate so deeply that you say they're a victim.

for example, in 2020~2021-ish, i was personally apart of the dsmp fandom. the main thing about dsmp and the characters was that the streamers would roleplay characters that were very identical to themselves, almost like a persona that bowed to the will of minecraft roleplay. it was at times difficult to distinguish the lines between when a streamer was in character and was out of character. a prime example of this would be tommyinnit. tommy played a character named, of course, tommy (who we will call c!tommy). c!tommy shared a lot of things with tommy the streamer, but he went through many traumatic events. one of which was the infamous exile arc. c!tommy was subjected to MAJOR emotional abuse, and tommy played the character very well! especially for someone who never really wrote anything to this extent, he put on a great performance

unfortunately, within the fandom, people started to theorise that tommy may be a victim of abuse to that level because of how well he was playing the character. considering that tommy, who has a VERY good relationship with his parents, with his mom openly supporting him on her social media, and has had support from them his entire content creator career, this line of thought was near insane to consider.

it was also very parasocial. people would find signs, saying that they know exactly what's going on based on his own content he was pumping out. they do not. they do not know him personally, and were largely basing it off of what they gathered from the exile streams. to be parasocial is to consume content of someone and claim to know them in some way shape or form. to feel there is a connection there and say its real. while art allows us to express things, its not an open invitation for speculation.

dont be parasocial with people you dont know personally. ESPECIALLY in this day and age, where the internet has normalised oversharing. if someone doesnt want us to know or speculate about something, then don't actively do so. if they have not hinted outside of their content that they want people to know their intimate trauma, then give them the deserved respect and DONT speculate.

[mcytrecursive]

Nomination Overview - Canon Compliant

And now for one that has quite a few more instalments! We've got several animatics, art and comics, and even web weave. Let's take a look at Canon-Compliant.

Title: Flowers for the Blood God Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/31888939 Fandom: Dream SMP Author: de_hautdesert Relationships: Nihachu & Ph1LzA & Ranboo & Technoblade, Niki | Nihachu & Technoblade Characters: Technoblade, Nihachu Length of the work: 2129 words Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Domestic/Slice-of-life, Fluff, Friendship, Found Family Type: Fic Summary: The Syndicate plans an unconventional meeting. Techno and Niki prepare. Featuring friends supporting each other, recovery from trauma, and infodumping about hair dye.

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Title: A Day in the Spotlight Rating: E-rated Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/31118939/chapters/76890005 Fandom: Hermitcraft SMP Author: Sharo Relationships: Xisuma/Everyone Characters: Xisuma, Hermitcraft Server Ensemble Length of the work: 27,491 words Genre: Canon-Compliant, Fluff, Friendship, Smut Type: Fic Summary: Kink-E-E’s Contract: Hermit of the Day Program signed by: I agree to spend 1 (one) day from sunrise to sunset as the server’s Public Use Hermit. I agree to remain on the Throne for the duration, or nearby if requested by any Hermit (not to leave the main lobby of Town Hall). I agree to be on display and available to all visitors. I agree to be blindfolded and allow anonymous visitors without requiring anyone to identify themself. I agree to allow a Kink-E-E’s employee to collect me without prior warning (unless otherwise negotiated) and seat me on the Throne in Town Hall. I agree to submit to any Hermit who approaches the Throne and who follows the limits set out in my personal contract. I retain the right to stop (safeword out of) any situation or contact that pushes those limits. I agree to use the emergency buttons provided if I feel unwanted discomfort, feel unsafe or overwhelmed by any scene and am unable to verbally communicate or verbalize my safeword. (See: Personal Notes if safeword applies) Accepted Terms between Hermit and Kink-E-E’s: Price to be Paid: NO REFUNDS, RAINCHECKS, BUYBACKS, TRADES, OR IOU’S (looking at you, Grian and Zedaph. Not funny.)

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Title: the body is an object Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/42838071 Fandom: Hermitcraft SMP Author: ruffboi Relationships: Gen Characters: Grian, PearlescentMoon, Mumbo Jumbo, XisumaVoid Length of the work: 19,132 words Genre: Angst, AU, Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Friendship, Found Family, Hurt/Comfort Type: Fic Summary: the Hermitcraft Backstory Rule says that you don't ask other people about their backstory, you let them tell it if they want to and leave it be if they don't. Unfortunately for Grian, one of the newest Hermits was also a player on his old server - one he'd thought had been dead for years - and she's going to drag his backstory kicking and screaming into the light whether she means to or not.

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Title: and the northern sky looked like the end of days Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/44214877 Fandom: 3rd Life SMP Author: sesquidpedalian Relationships: Etho & Cleo, Scott & Tango, Bigb & Bdubs & Impulse, Scott & Cleo, Pearl & Scott & Cleo & Martyn Characters: Cleo, Etho, Scott, Tango, Bigb, Pearl, Martyn Length of the work: 8,316 words Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Drama, Friendship Type: Fic Summary: Five scenes from before the end.

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Title: i think i would like a quiet life Link: here Fandom: Dream SMP Author: pidgedee Relationships: tommy&a healing arc Characters: TommyInnit Length of the work: Not Applicable Genre: Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Fix-It Type: Art Summary: A gentle-ending poem comic about c!Tommy.

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Title: cura te ipsum Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/39459339 Fandom: Hermitcraft SMP Author: Bee_4 Relationships: Zedaph & TangoTek BdoubleO100 & TangoTek Characters: Tangotek, Zedaph Length of the work: 14,998 words Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Hurt/Comfort Type: Fic Summary: Tango fails, the moon falls, everyone dies—and then he's woken up, told none of it was real, that they're safely on the Hermethius headed for the next season, and that everyone is perfectly fine, including Tango himself. Tango's coping great, thanks for asking.

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Title: Second Chances Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/38657916 Fandom: Dream SMP Author: rutadales (pumpkinrootbeer) Relationships: Foolish Games / BadBoyHalo, Foolish Games & BadBoyHalo Characters: Foolish Gamers, BadBoyHalo Length of the work: 1,360 words Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Hurt/Comfort Type: Fic Summary: Foolish's arms move to grasp his hair and then back down, his claws digging tight into the cloth covering his chest and the angry, red scar from Antfrost's blade that Bad knows is underneath. He still isn't breathing and Bad wonders if they really do need to get him to some salt water. He'd ask someone, but, well. It's just them right now. Or; Foolish panics and Bad tries to pick up the pieces.

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Title: You Are the Boogeyman Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/52022125 Fandom: 3rd Life SMP Author: OshawottWarrior Relationships: none tagged Characters: BdoubleO100, Ethoslab, Grian Length of the work: 578 words Genre: Canon-Compliant, Whump Type: Fic Summary: Bdubs is chosen as the first Boogeyman

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Title: What resembles the grave but is hobby tunneling Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/51317131 Fandom: QSMP Author: WheelCoveredInEyes Relationships: Antoine Daniel/Etoiles, Etoiles/BadBoyHalo, Etoiles & Philza, Etoiles & Pomme (QSMP), Etoiles & Baghera Jones, Etoiles & Mikethelink & Pactw, Binary Code Entity (QSMP) & Etoiles Characters: Etoiles, Philza, BadBoyHalo, Antoine Daniel, Baghera Jones, Mikethelink, Pactw, Binary Code Entity, Pomme Length of the work: 9,444 words Genre: Canon-Compliant, Character Study Type: Fic Summary: “Okay, king, I know you have a fuckin’ death wish, but you’re gonna break Pomme’s heart if you die. So we need to figure something out, okay?” ---- Etoiles is absolutely certain he is living on borrowed time. Nobody else understands this.

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Title: know that all my love will be your breath (i will save you when your lights go out) Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/52382506 Fandom: 3rd Life SMP Author: GlitraHasConsumedMe Relationships: Jimmy | Solidarity/TangoTek Characters: Jimmy, Tango Length of the work: 5.4k Genre: Canon-Compliant Type: Fic Summary: Two (or more) lives and deaths of an unlikely soul-bound couple

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Title: self-improvement* Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/47271748 Fandom: QSMP Author: honoraryangel Relationships: Cellbit & Philza Characters: Cellbit, Philza, Chayanne (QSMP), Richarlyson (QSMP) Length of the work: 4,501 Genre: Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Friendship Type: Fic Summary: Philza has been very angry lately. Cellbit has also been very angry lately. *neither of them truly improve, unless you count learning basic combat "improving".

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Title: City of Stars Fandom: Dream SMP Author: Paprikup Relationships: Quackity/Schlatt, Quackity/Karl/Sapnap Characters: Quackity, Sapnap, Karl, Schlatt Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Horror, Hurt-no-comfort, Romance Type: Animatic Summary: A short animation about the times when Quackity's heart was shattered, the violence of loneliness, and the person (the monster) he's become in the ruins of lost love.

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Title: Breath Of Life || QSMP Purgatory Animatic Fandom: QSMP Author: MaepleTea Relationships: Philza & Chayanne & Tallulah, Philza & Etoiles, Philza & Cellbit Characters: Philza, BadBoyHalo, Etoiles, Cellbit Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Drama Type: Animatic Summary: An animatic about q!Phil during Purgatory and what was going on around him and in his head.

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Title: the handgun is no longer sexy Link: here Fandom: Dream SMP Author: regicidal-optimism Relationships: Quackity/Wilbur Characters: Quackity, Wilbur Length of the work: Not Applicable Genre: Canon-Compliant, Character Study, Romance Type: Web Weave Summary: Web weave about Las Nevadas Quackity loving a man who wants to die and not being over Pogtopia.

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Title: THE DIVORCE OF THE CENTURY Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/52635358 Fandom: Hermitcraft SMP Author: glossyblue Relationships: Grian/Goodtimeswithscar Characters: Grian, Goodtimeswithscar, Mumbo Jumbo, BdoubleO100, Zombie Cleo, Rendog and Joe Hills Length of the work: 7,192 words Genre: Canon-Compliant, Humour Type: Fic Summary: The court proceedings of Hermitcraft’s first ever divorce, centering on Grian (Petitioner #1), Scar (Petitioner #2), Mumbo Jumbo (defense lawyer), a cat (also somehow a defense lawyer?), several judges since they keep quitting because of all the nonsense, and your tireless Court Scribe JoeHills.

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Title: El nido de cuervo - The crow's nest  Link: here Fandom: QSMP Author: wizardsandrain Relationships: Philza & Chayanne & Tallulah Characters: Phliza, Chayanne, Tallulah Length of the work: N/A Genre: Canon-Compliant, Domestic/Slice-of-life, Fluff, Family Type: Art Summary: A painting of the basement where Chayanne and Tallulah sleep

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Title: ACP-Verse Link: https://archiveofourown.org/series/3765673 Fandom: 3rd Life SMP Author: Raichett Relationships: Grian/Goodtimeswithscar (main), Goodtimeswithscar&Cubfan135,  Characters: Grian, Goodtimeswithscar Length of the work: 25,615 words (incomplete series) Genre: AU, Canon-Compliant, Hurt/Comfort, Romance, Post-Canon Type: Fic Summary: A post-Third Life AU, wherein Grian has been waiting over a thousand years, very much cursed, for the return of Scar's reincarnated soul. 

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Title: back pack Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40575780 Fandom: Dream SMP Author: Anonymous Relationships: Quackity/Karl Jacobs/Sapnap, Karl Jacobs/Sapnap,  Characters: Sapnap, Karl Jacobs, Eret, Quackity, Dream Length of the work: 3,188 words Genre: Angst, AU, Canon-Compliant, Drama, Modern AU, Canonical character death, not permanent Type: Fic Summary: “his jacket,” eret says quietly. you hear it, all muffled and echoey. she’s holding something out to you. “i thought we could, uh…cover him with it.” “who is this, eret?” you ask. she purses her lips. “who is it,” you say again. eret’s not one to lie. not anymore. she presses a jacket into your arms. it’s blue, soft, it’s streaked with red across the back and spotted in the shape of fingerprints all down the sleeves. she’s pushing it into your arms and she’s straightening up all regal-like and saying - “you’re lying,” karl gasps from the floor, in that miserable way you know means he’s about to cry. “oh my god. oh my god, oh my god.” ~ In which Quackity is dead, Karl is not, and Sapnap buries a body; not for the first time and certainly not for the last.

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Title: hope is a fragile thing Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33865579 Fandom: Empires SMP Author: echotunes Relationships: Original Character(s) & Original Character(s) (Empires SMP) Characters: Original Character(s) (Empires SMP) Length of the work: 3,022 words Genre: Canon-Compliant, Friendship Type: Fic Summary: The notice boards begin displaying information about curfews, designed to protect the citizens at night. People are allegedly trying to stop their ruler's communication with the demon, but nobody seems to be sure how to go about it. Lord Sausage seems impeturbed by the demon, and his advisors don't seem to be trying to stop him from talking to them. Protests begin on the streets, but nothing is changed. The corruption is as present as ever, and the demon is spotted in the empire almost daily now. People begin to leave. --- You are a citizen of Mythland. Things are going badly.

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Title: another visit Link: here Fandom: Dream SMP Author: yuker Relationships: Quackity/Karl Jacobs Characters: Quackity, Karl Jacobs Length of the work: Comic Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Hurt/Comfort, Time Travel, Character Study Type: Fic Summary: [sometimes I see him in the middle of the night but he doesn't really remember me.] In which Karl visits Quackity in between his time traveling, and Quackity cannot be sure he isn't dreaming.

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Title: How Far We’ve Come - Hermitcraft season 8 Animatic Fandom: Hermitcraft SMP Author: Chrisrin  Relationships: Hermitcraft ensemble & Hermitcraft ensemble, Joe Hills & Zombie Cleo, Boatem (Impulse, Grian, Scar, Pearl, Mumbo), Stressmonster & Falsesymetey & Gemini tay, Xisuma & Wels knight Characters: Hermitcraft ensemble, literally all of them  Genre: Angst, Canon-Compliant, Friendship, Found Family Type: Animatic Summary: An animatic exploring every Hermitcraft member’s season 8 finale (moon big)

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[cquackity]

my thoughts on doomsday are that the event itself was interesting. i genuinely understand c!techno's pov even if i think he was wrong and taking out his emotions on the wrong people and went way too far. someone said his autism rage meltdown and ngl i Get it like he is just like me fr. narratively the idea of "guy is really angry at people who are also really angry at him, is enabled by dream, Local Guy Who Sucks" intrigues me. Other things i liked: everyone was there, lots of people reacted to it in different ways, my babyboy cq got to be there and be angry and im here for that allll the time and it helped put a lot of flavor into his later las nevadas arc which i will never regret. ghostbur was killing it. tommy & techno's bedrock breakup was heartbreaking and LOVELY. i enjoyed a lot of it for that reason.

things i didnt like: while sometimes i think ccphil was Trying to say that cphil was in the wrong for doomsday stuff, i am so. completely unsure and regardless if that was his Intent, it absolutely felt that way and it felt like no one actually... thought that for ages lmao. it poisoned a lot of later discourse and a lot of fandom perception of all the characters involved i think. it also felt like it 'sploded the main community hub which ppl have talked about in a lot of ways. dream having access to creative control made it so that it felt as if there wasnt even any suspense. there was no way anyone could have fought back against it, and while i think without that, techno probably still would have won, it would have been much closer of a fight and way more interesting. i also dont like the idea that the destruction of the place itself could ever kill lmanberg, my country of dandelions.

overall, i think if things had ended post-disc finale (which, even though i love the las nevadas arc and resurrected wilbur arc etc, i feel as though it is the ending that is 'cleanest' in canon) i wouldnt necessarily feel as bad about it as i did, as that would have left it open-ended if people rebuilt and therefore could have removed a lot of the negative feelings i have on the topic.

sorry for the ramble!

DON'T BE SORRY FOR THE RAMBLING I ENCOURAGE THE RAMBLING!!!!!!!!

[proudfreakmetarusonikku]

like i do think the dream xd idea is cool i wrote a whole one shot about it it’s a fucking crime it didn’t happen but i think people talking about it forget that 1 it was a part of multiple finales including the dumb amnesia one bc the incident was dreamxd soft resetting the universe they are not seperate ideas for the ending they are the same 2 it literally does not make the dumb amnesia ending any better and in fact only makes it even less satisfactory bc like, yeah c!tommy is the eternal cycles guy but this one just clashes horribly with his character arc and discards it for the sake of another storyline (which, i mean, fair enough considering what happened to the egg but also y’know, sucks) and 3 the main reason it’s such a cool idea is bc it was written as setup to a second season and would have actually like provided lore and shit it was not written to be an ending and would have probably not done great as one bc it was intended as the beginning to a story arc bc dream was too busy handling serious situations like a fucking joke to tell people that he wasn’t able to do that.

[nomsfaultau]

Daily ask №18!

DSMP edition!

This is gonna be another one where you can basically write a fic off of that one prompt. Actually please do write that, I'd totally read it. (/not forcing obviously) So 3 questions.

The Fault crew gets dropped into DSMP. Specifically right before the Pogtopia revolution dsmp. Like 5 days before. They get dropped somewhere on the prime path where they get discovered by Tommy. What happens next is up to ya but it would be cool if they got to meet the Pogtopia crew. Also potentially fix the mess that happened during the revolution since this would be the same Fault crew that got shown the songs and got to chat with the dsmp characters, so they do have whatever knowledge of the future they managed to gain. Do they try to fix it? Do they just hang out? Do they idk, ruin even more shit? How do DSMP characters react? Who knows! You do probably. The Fault crew gets teleported back a day after the revolution. They get a countdown during the last day so they know exactly when they're going back and get to say their goodbyes.

I wonder how they would react to the differences in the worlds. Like Minecraft mechanics existing, inventory, communicators (no phones don't typically say when someone has died), 3 lives system, mobs like withers, enchantments. Also the fact that this word is essentially stuck in the middle ages (?)(whatever time would dsmp be. Not modern that's for sure.). Also the differences between the characters that they met previously, so the future for this reality, and the characters which universe they are in currently. Especially Tubbo cause C! Tubbo's character arc was WILD man.

Which Minecraft soundtrack/discs would be which fault crew characters?

1.Ah man let's see if I even remember that far back lmao! FTubbo and FTommy feel obligated to help the revolution for moral reasons, The Blade is helping because he's nice, and Fhil is still trying to figure out if alternate universe versions of his Collected are also under his jurisdiction. Ultimately he's going to go for no I think, give the dsmp crew their own choice in the matter (and I don't think on average he tends to prefer having too many Collected, since conflicting morals and goals get tricky). FWilbur is like what the hell guys we need to dip yesterday, and the walls make him itchy as hell since it hates being unable to run. Dsmp guys are excited for more soldiers, and aren't suspicious because none of the betrayals have happened yet. It flips the tide of the war by a lot. Aside from Fhil they're not great at weapon combat, and might need specialized armor, but honestly the power scales are very different.

If pursuaded Fhil might just go dragon mode, create an impassible flaming wall around L'Manburg. With some piecing together they figure out green boi is responsible for a lot that went down (not to limit main cast's flaws and mistakes etc but still). He reminds FTommy a lot of Dr. Blake. He's definitely getting hunted down and murdered how ever many times it takes. Can't remember why the election happens, but JSchlatt tries to kick them out and the anomalies just laugh and refuse. I imagine new problems arise from butting heads, Wilburs arguing about control, Tommys being hella chaotic, but for the most part things actually are kinda chill? Like probably not for long because everything goes wrong on that server if left alone for long enough, but major antagonists don't have a lot on the anomalies. Not sure ctechno and cphil even show up since they're not requested for battle.

The anomalies are just chillin without the Foundation to worry about, are absolutely outraged when they realize they're going back. Since the plot is derailed so early a lot of their patchy knowledge is kinda useless aside from knowing the potential fracture lines for the dsmp crew. Or. Fault lines, if we want to be silly.

ah hell I just reread and realized that said Pogtopia and not L'Manburg ooops. It's been an extremely long day.

2. NO WIFI?! they're in HELL! what but we're homeless we don't have wifi THIS IS WORSE THAN THE FOUNDATION- In all honesty Philza is perfectly fine, but misses all those human inventions he gets so hyped about. Tommy and Tubbo have the worst go of it. Wilbur is losing its mind over how few food items exist. Tubbo is confused with how fast the crops work, which probably go into steroids around Tubbo. They're like walking bonemeal. The trees scare them. Not the inventory tho, Tubbo already shoves random tupperware in their mouth all the time. Phil tries to put his kids in his inventory once for the joke. It works. Wilbur adores enderchests because amazing food store no one else can get to. NOT happy about creepers tho. The voices won't shut up until they kill the wither.

As for character differences, fTommy and fTubbo really consider them to be like Pre-Foundation, fresh untraumatized kid versions of themselves. Probably over protective to be honest, in a similar vein to how fwil is about ftommy. Again Fhil is absolutely unable to get that CPhil is an independent adult doing his own thing and leaving his kids to their own devices. Though the letter situation dulls his anger. Techno's change isn't as dramatic since he's trauma repellent (/j). Filbur can tolerate this version of Cwilbur.

3.The Blade likes Pigstep for normal reasons.

Tubbo likes Cat, it's energetic and bouyant.

Phil likes Mall, very relaxed and meditative.

Tommy likes otherside for the space/star association.

Wilbur likes Stal, it's suave. Or one of the broken ones bc edgy.

[pupperish]

Hi......If you don't mind, can I ask, what are your top 10 (or top 7) favorite media (can be books/ manga/ anime/movies/tv series)? Why do you love them? Sorry if you've answered this question before......Thanks....

I actually haven't before so thank you :D

gonna go from lowest to highest so 7-1. Also this is based off of a mix of how much I enjoy/enjoyed the media and how good it actually is.

Number 7: Dsmp. The thing is a hot mess but it changed me enough as a person for me to put it up here. I literally got my main name that I use from c!Tommy. Wilbur's storyline in the early stages of the server is really good and I think everyone can agree that the Exile arc is a horrifically real depiction of abuse for a Minecraft server that wasn't supposed to be roleplay originally.

Number 6: Bungou Stray Dogs. Some of the most likeable characters. Like genuinely there's maybe two characters I hate in the show. I'm not particularly a big fan of the plot or the mystery stuff but I enjoy the characters enough to put it here.

Number 5: Generation Loss. Good ass horror project. Extremely creative and I am proud to have been a fan since it was just a concept Ranboo was talking about on a late night stream. I usually dislike live action stuff but this is an exception.

Number 4: Omori. One of my favorite videos games I've played. The art is perfect. I literally have a screenshot from the game as my desktop. Black space is one of my favorites sections from any video game. Also the story is great.

Number 3: Jujutsu kaisen. What I'm currently obsessed with. It has problems and I wish there were more important female characters but I enjoy the world building and damn near every character. Mahito has to be one of my favorite villain characters. I hate him but I can't help from love him from a writing perspective.

Number 2: Mob Psycho 100. Great story, stunning animation, good characters. One of the few pieces of media that have successfully made me cry (actually thinking about it a good percent of the things on this list have made me cry lmao)

Number 1.... drumroll please :3

Chainsaw Man. If you can handle all the heavy topics it handles you should read it. If you aren't fully on board and are okay with spoilers watch the Super Eyepatch Wolf video about Chainsaw Man cause he makes all my points of why i love the show.

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if you ever wanna know c!tommy lore I’ve seen most of it btw! so feel free to ask :)

I've seen most of the main stuff I think, but I have been curious about especially what happened post-Jailbreak.

The YouTube channel I usually watch to learn the lore and stuff hasn't gotten to that part yet, so I've only seen a few snippets of what happens with c!Tommy after Dream for out (it looked cool/interesting from what I saw though, so I'd definitely be interested if you want to infodump about it :)

Also any little details or general analysis stuff too, I think I have a good grasp on his arc, but c!Boreal Trio are the ones I'm mostly fixated/focused on so in some ways I only know the surface levels of a lot of c!Tommy's lore (I also just love reading people's analyses of how characters or relationships progress and develop, it's fun :)

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HELLO YOU AMAZING MOTHERCUCKERS. Only if you are one of the BRWS (pronounced bros), a part of the Blond(e) Red+White Shirt gang. We are the best /vvvvpos.

This is a blog for introjects (but not only) that are blond(e) and have a strange love for a red and white shirt.

Mod (aka the main BRWS) intros under the cut!!

🌟: Hey bitches im Vega, red is a great colour and i have blonde hair. i use she/her or fa/fax/faxer, either work :D. i will likely have the most typos because i type waaay too fast. im on the left side of the icon, amd made the icon and logo! :DD Im not really active thoughhhh.

📒: EYYOOO IM TOM,Z!! I LOVE RED! I use HE/IT pronouns! I'm on the right side of the icon, and I made the blog banner! I'm a spiritual tommyinnit fictive and it's awesome, please ask me about our lord and savior prime.

🦆: HELLO. I'm tol!!!!!! I use he/him pronouns, I like ducks and I uhhh yeah :D I'm bunny, I'm in the top right of the icon

🟥: WHOOP WHOOP I GET THE RED SQUARE!- Anyways hi, Im Tom, and shirt is best colour out there mate. uh he/him, im bottom right, im a tommy factive, not from mcyt just yt but im here fuck yeah. i also fixed the logo and banner and icon since vega is dyslexic and spelt brws wrong.

🕹️: yoo!! what’s up, i’m damian. use he/dae/it pronouns for me or perish. i’m a dave strider fictive in the @aether-aquarium and i am the bottom center of the icon. the art credit for that is here.

🍓: HELLo!! i’m FRAN!! (previously known as theseus), fhe biggest man ever and i use he/shy/sun/stardust pronouns BECAUSe im the BEST!! im at the TOP center of the icon!!

🌷: ayup i’m talon!! i use she/they pronouns!! i am top left, which so rudely covered my amazing face (/lh) until i changed it to square. i don’t front as often as theseus or damian so i likely won’t be around as much but im still cooler than BOTh of them

🎗: Hey, I'm Zackary. I dont know why I am a part of this, Vega (🌟) saw my icon and her and Tom (🟥) decided to force me into this. I think im the most relaxed of us all. I use he/him pronouns, and dont front as much as the others in our system (@irrelevantcollective), but I suppose I am a part of this now. My icon is on the bottom left of the profile picture. Stay safe out there on the internet.

💿: Hi hungry, I'm dad. I'm the coolest one here, trust. I'm post scratch dave strider 💪

📀: HELLO!! IM TOMMY!! IM A C!TOMMY FICTIVE AND I USE HE/XE/VE/DISC/MELL(OHI)/CAT/POG/📀 PRONOUNS!! IM ALSO INCAPABLE OF TYPING IN LOWERCASE,, ITS A CONDITION 😔😔 ALSO THE ONE BELOW ME SUCKS RAHHHHHH!!!!

❤️‍🩹: the guy above me is a lame ass dork butt HELLO CHAT!!!! IT IS I!! TOMMYINNIT!!!! totally better then the one above me IM AN EXILE ARC TOMMY AND IM THE COOLEST ONE HERE i am writing this with a massive headache BUT THE BIT GOES ON!!!! he/him and stuff POGGERS!!!!!!! CAN WE GET SOME PRIMES??? POG CHAMP!!! bro no one is gonna read this far down can we get some pogs for the guys who read this far?? POG

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dsmp theatee production braainrot

no but like. c!dream actually just wandering through the crowd, monologueing- better, SINGING THE LMANBERG ANTHEM AFTER DOOMSDAY

i am so happy for this

and just all the characters with different amount of armour

wilbur with none obviously but most of dreams costume would be his armour, aside from the mask, and techno would have a lot but it would be embellished and detailed and golden to fit his aesthetic

philza would have just enough to give him some protection but not too much because he doesnt care enough and hes not regularly on the offensive or fighting short-range

so hed have again, armour that fits his aesthetic but mainly like plates on his boots and arms, and maybe a vest that like just covers his chest a bit

OH MY GOSH WAIT. PHILZAS COSTUME DESIGN. WITH HIS WINGS. WOULD BE SO COOL. OH MY GOSHHHHHHHHHH AA

I would kill people to create that costume

ANYWAY characters like tommy or jack would have a lot less armour, just basic stuff

and then when its an actual war like doomsday people will wear change their amount of armour, and it will be so noticeable how much they cover up in that situation

ranboo puts on a full set

techno keeps it easy to maneuvere

tommy doesnt have much, and what he does have would be visibly scuffed and not entirely durable

tubbo has an okay set only because hes the president

dream takes off some of his armour as a power move, unnoticed in the midst of it all

also i just want to. discuss ghostbur. because ohhh my gosh thats such a good focus.

id probably have part 2 focus a lot on techno, though i wouldnt want there to be a clear main character in any of it- like wilburs story would be the focus in part 1, but he dies and that would throw off the audiences understandinf of who the protagonists are supposed to be! MORALLY GREY CHARACTERS HOORAY! CONFUSE THE AUDIENCE AND ANYONE WHO EXPEXTS STORIES TO HAVE A CLEAR GOOD VS BAD DYNAMIC!!!!!

focusing on techno in the second part of the play would be amazing because his interactions with the audience are so unique to other ccs

he talks constantly during lore, breaking 4th wall liberally, hes way less performative in the way he does it too, whereas wilbur and dream would do it with the idea of performance

and like that other person said, techno could actually spend his retirement arc IN THE AUDIENCE AREA

all od this is makinf me think the stage should have a thrust section that is level eith the audience, and maybe even multiple clearings throughout where characters can move to when needed, like with dreams wandering, and where characters that gradually move on-stage will start out? not like for the audience to see, but if youre near them you do see it. different perspectives and stuff

and Tommy might actuallt pick on members of the audience for comic relief, joking around and shit, which would contrast so heavily to exile where he would just sit on the edge of rhe stage and talk to them quietly

and ranboo could be constantly ramblinf to the audience withour a clewr understanding of what they are, and then one person in the audience could actually reply to him, and he could kind of jist stop and go 'wait what, thats not supposed to happen' almost like they did in wandavision if anyone knows what im on about. like that whole interview section? that

AUGHHHH MY BRAIN IS DECAYING schlatt should die in one of those sections in the middle of the audience. im just sayinf. he should.

becayse there are so many different povs to the dsmp i think it would be cool if the stage was set so that different sides of the audience would have a completely different idea of the story

like characters that can be seen wandering around in the background might only be see by the left audience, or the right side might get a different impression of the lighting

or the spotlights could be angled on some characters so that one side of them is obscured by shadow and another side is brightly lit (could work so well with Wilbur or schlatt to communicate how different people hate or idolise them)

please send help