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crystal NOT in nagasaki, singapore: part two
Hi again, and welcome to the second part (of probably many) about my travels in Singapore and Thailand last December and January.
On my fourth day in Singapore, I headed to Haw Par Villa with my friends.
Haw Par Villa is an attraction dating back to the 1930s consisting of over 1000 statues and 150 dioramas depicting scenes from Chinese folklore, particularly scenes of Chinese Buddhist hell. Interestingly, the park was created by the Aw Boon Brothers, creators of Tiger Balm, a popular medicinal balm in Asia. The original intent of the park was to teach traditional Chinese values and morality, but in its recent reconstruction, its been made into a tourist attraction and museum in an attempt to bring in more tourists. According to my Chinese Singaporean friend Aaron, his parents used to take him to Haw Par Villa as a child when he misbehaved in order to scare him into being good. Seeing the frightening diorama scenes of torture for simple sins such as "disobedience toward siblings," "using curse words," "misusing books," or "wasting food" was sure to scare any Chinese child into good morals. But anyway, I was here as a tourist, so I was able to enjoy looking at the grotesque imagery without much fear for my mortal soul.
Before entering the horror that awaited us, we first enjoyed the beautiful gateway and garden with a pond and cute little turtles at the entrance of the park. We also saw these funky tiger statues, among other various non-hell-related statues around the park. You could get more of a sense of the age of the place from these statues, which definitely looked like they were from a premodern era.
Finally, we entered though a small entry building and paid the fee to enter the museum and hell portion. First we watched a short video which talked about major world religions and what they believe about the afterlife (and whether there is a hell) which was very educational. Next we walked into a small museum to read a bit more about the various religions and their beliefs. In one section, they had a (I'm hoping) fake coffin in the ground below the room to represent the use of burial in many cultures.
Another interesting thing I learned about Chinese burial culture is the belief that if you burn paper money and other objects, the deceased will receive them. Part of the exhibit showed the creative ways people burn things important to their loved ones, like paper likenesses of beloved pets and even a full McDonald's drive-thru!
From here, we exited the museum building and headed down the path to the main event--the depictions of Chinese hell. On the path before entering the main hall, we saw this boulder covered in human heads. Lovely.
Next we approached the main hall, which had two large figures of a horse and a bull guarding the entrance. According to Chinese philosophy, they are the guardians of the entrance of the underworld, and escort the recently deceased into hell in order to receive judgment and sentencing.
We finally entered the hall and went inside to find many graphic and violent depictions of various torture methods in each of the 10 courts of hell, with signs alongside each one explaining which sin warranted each punishment. At each diorama, there was also a lord judge overseeing the sentencing and punishment of the sinners.
Here are some examples of the punishments and related sins:
Court 2 -- sins: causing hurt, cheating, robbery, corruption, stealing, gambling, prostitution -- punishments: thrown into a volcanic pit, thrown onto blocks of ice, thrown into a pool of blood
Court 4 -- sins: tax evasion, avoiding paying rent, fraud, disobedience toward siblings, lack of filial piety -- punishments: pounded by a stone mallet, ground by a large stone
Court 6 -- sins: cheating, using curse words, kidnapping, misusing books, possessing pornography, breaking rules and regulations, wasting food -- punishments: thrown onto a tree of knives, to have one's body sawn in half
Near the end of the line of dioramas was Meng Po's pavilion. Here, after being tortured, the sinners would receive a potion from Meng Po, who was a devout student of Confucianism and Buddhism. This potion makes the sinners forget everything about their former lives, so their souls can be reincarnated into new bodies.
After that beautiful display, we left the tunnel of horrors and continued on the path, where there were a few more statues and dioramas of scenes from Chinese mythology.
I took a picture of what looked to me like some grasshoppers making out and being egged on by various anthropomorphic animals. When I looked it up, I found that cricket fighting used to be a popular gambling sport in China dating back to one thousand years ago. Unlike bullfighting or cockfighting, it's not as bloody and inhumane, so I feel like I could get behind the cricket action.
After taking time to admire the rest of the dioramas, we headed to another hawker center to get lunch. I ordered laksa, arguably Singapore's most famous dish, which is like a spicy ramen with a coconut curry broth. The stall I ordered from boasted a Michelin star rating for their claypot laksa, which, you guessed it, is served in a clay pot. Though I am weak with spices, it was incredibly delicious and I see why it's a national dish.
After the main course, we tried some ice kachang, a Malaysian shaved ice dessert topped with sweet red beans, pandan jelly, and syrup. It was super delicious and refreshing in the tropical heat.
The next day, my Singaporean friend had some plans of her own, so my American friend and I set off to explore some touristy things. We first took a walk through Fort Canning Park to enjoy some of the tropical greenery. There I found this stone wall with interesting carvings on it.
Next, we walked around the main downtown area of Singapore to look at the buildings, visit some museums, and go shopping.
This colorful building is the Old Hill Street Police Station, previously a police station and now a preserved historic building.
I also took a picture of this cool apartment building from afar. There are really interesting and innovative styles of architecture in Singapore's buildings. Since the country is so small, they must build more spaces upward instead of outward, leading to the existence of many skyscrapers.
From here we visited the Asian Civilizations museum, which had a temporary exhibition called Manila Galleon, about the history of trade between Spain, Latin America, and the Philippines in the premodern era. Through the artifacts and art, you can see how each culture influenced another, and it was really interesting! In the main room was the Tree of Life, looking similar to an ofrenda and showing the importance of family and ancestral heritage in these cultures.
At the end of the exhibit was a huge diorama showing the route the ships traveled between Latin America and the Philippines, and what goods they carried. The colorful map was made out of thousands of small flowers. There was a station where you could make a small paper boat and write a wish on the inside, and I made one for my partner.
After this, we headed to a nearby mall called Funan Mall to look around and get lunch. The mall specialized in tech goods, so most of the stores sold computers and video gaming equipment. There were also some VR experience rooms and a huge indoor rock climbing wall spanning from the bottom floor to the third floor. Above this were many box-like structures seemingly stacked in the middle of each floor. More cool Singaporean architecture!
At the mall we got lunch, ordering a Malaysian specialty dish called nasi lemak, which consists of rice, chicken, anchovies, vegetables, and spicy sambal sauce. Like all the other food in Singapore thus far, it was delicious.
Next, we took a bus toward Arab Street, Singapore's Muslim quarter. Across from the bus stop, I saw a rare open space marked with many small graves. According to my friend, these are old graves belonging to many Singaporean Muslim and Malay people, including some members of royal family and merchants. The scripts covering the graves include Malay, Javanese, Arabic, Mandarin, and Gujrati, showing Singapore's diverse cultural heritage. In such a developed and modernized country, it was interesting to see a bit of the old Singapore in this cemetery.
We continued on to Arab Street, which is marked by the huge and magnificent Sultan Mosque. According to the mosque website, their main prayer hall can hold up to 5000 people!
We continued down the street, which was lined with middle eastern restaurants, souvenir shops, and shisha bars. They had some really lovely handmade cultural goods for sale, and I enjoyed seeing everything.
We last stopped for the day at a chai tea shop to have authentic chai tea with lots of spices. It was so delicious!
With that, I'll end part two here, and continue with my Singapore travels in the next post. See you in part three!
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this is gonna be a weird ask , but can you elaborate on the image you reblogged for akutagwa. the dog biting the man's hand ? i have theories to why you would put these two things together but it really just struck me and i thought it was really neat :D.
oh absolutely!!  his is gonna turn into a meta so stay tuned under the cut.
typically in literature,  dogs have many symbolic meanings.  for the sake of akutagawa,  i usually play on the following:
dogs as symbols of death
dogs as symbols of vigilance
dogs as symbols of loyalty
itâs not a secret akutagawa has a lot of dog related motifs to him.  most notably being a couple aliasâ he is called in the manga.  [ black-fanged hell hound, ]  in my portrayal and visions,  serves to signify dogs as symbols of death.  [ silent mad dog, ]  serves to signify dogs as both symbols of vigilance and loyalty.  iâll go into more detail,  now,  below.
DOGS AS SYMBOLS OF DEATH.
itâs no secret that in many classical mythologies,  death and canines go hand in hand.  i think itâs important to note that dogs have two rolls in death:  serving as death omens while simultaneously showcasing the journey from the land of the living to the land of the dead.  [ for example: ]  cerberus,  the three-headed dog that guarded the entrance to the underworld in greek mythology  ---  this also has ties to dogs as symbols of vigilance.  anubis,  the god of death from egyptian myth,  had the head of a jackal.  BLACK DOGS,  ESPECIALLY,  SEEM TO BE VERY SYMBOLIC OF DEATH.  black dogs are thought,  in some traditions,  to be denizens of the underworld.  akutagawa is surely no stranger to death,  as a dying man himself with the blood of countless others on his hands.  a manga panel is pictured below with a quote i find very relative to this.
DOGS AS SYMBOLS OF VIGILANCE AND LOYALTY.
piggybacking off the previous image,  akutagawa ryunosuke is loyal to a fault.  and thus,  the port mafiaâs silent mad dog was created.  one of the most notable classical uses of a dogâs loyalty i can think of occurs in greek myth,  that being odysseusâs arrival to his homeland after his wanderings, and meeting his old dog Argos, the only one who recognized him.  to put it shortly,  akutagawa took to dazai osamu like a dog sitting at the grave of itâs long since passed owner.  [ i recommend reading greyfriars bobby by eleanor atkinson for more on the imagery of a dog sitting at a grave! ]  and in doing so,  abandoned his sense of self worth.  not only does akutagawa serve as a watch dog for the port mafia,  his loyalty and need to prove himself leave him and his ability to be easily used for the benefit of others,  and to his own demise.  pictured again below.
LASTLY,  BITING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.
akutagawaâs plot revolves around coming to terms with himself.  in order to do that,  akutagawa has to remove himself of dazai completely.  AKUTAGAWA HAS TO BITE THE HAND THAT FED HIM IN ORDER TO LIVE.  the more akutagawa begins to think for himself,  the more he finds confidence in himself:  growing to believe that he himself has worth outside of his special ability.  he has a long way to go,  but i think one day,  akutagawa will finally take his leash off.  or die trying.
#paasoori#*  đŹđđŽđ𲠠/  ryunosuke akutagawa.#long post tw#text heavy tw#ask to tag tw#THIS WAS SO LONG???????#NDJNDJKDJF#always send me questions i love u sm#mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah
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Hermes â Messenger of the Gods
As one of the twelve Olympian gods, Hermes was an important figure and features in many ancient Greek myths. He played many roles, including being a psychopomp to the dead and the winged herald of the gods. He was also a great trickster and the god of several other domains including commerce, thieves, flocks and roads.
Quick and intelligent, Hermes had the ability to move freely between the divine and mortal worlds and it was this skill that made him perfect for the role of the godsâ messenger. In fact, he was the only Olympian god who could cross the border between the dead and the living, an ability that would come into play in several significant myths.
Who was Hermes?
Hermes was the son of Maia, one of the seven daughters of Atlas, and Zeus, the god of the sky. He was born in Arcadia on the famous Mt. Cyllene.
According to some sources, his name is derived from the Greek word âhermaâ meaning a heap of stones like those that were used in the country as landmarks or to indicate the boundaries of the land.
Although he was a god of fertility, Hermes didnât marry and had few affairs, compared to most other Greek gods. His consorts include Aphrodite, Merope, Dryope and Peitho. Hermes had several children including Pan, Hermaphroditus (with Aphrodite), Eudoros, Angelia and Evander.
Hermes is often depicted wearing a winged helmet, winged sandals and carrying a wand, known as the caduceus.
What Was Hermes the God Of?
Apart from being a messenger, Hermes was a god in his own right.
Hermes was the protector and patron of herdsmen, travellers, orators, literature, poets, sports and trade. He was also the god of athletic contests, heralds, diplomacy, gymnasiums, astrology and astronomy.
In certain myths, he is depicted as a clever trickster who would sometimes outwit the gods for fun or for the benefit of humankind.
Hermes was immortal, powerful and his unique skill was speed. He had the ability to make people fall asleep using his staff. He was also a psychopomp, and as such had the role of escorting the newly dead to their place in the Underworld.
Myths Involving Hermes
Hermes and the Herd of Cattle
Hermes was an impish god who was always searching for constant amusement. When he was just a baby, he stole a herd of fifty sacred cattle that belonged to his half-brother Apollo. Although he was a baby, he was strong and clever and he covered up the herdâs tracks by attaching bark to their shoes, which made it difficult for anyone to follow them. He hid the herd in a large cave in Arcadia for several days until satyrs discovered it. This is how he came to be associated with thieves.
After a hearing held by Zeus and the rest of the Olympian gods, Hermes was allowed to keep the herd which consisted of only 48 cattle since heâd already killed two of them and used their intestines to make strings for the lyre, a musical instrument heâs credited for having invented.
However, Hermes could only keep the herd if he gifted his lyre to Apollo which he willingly did. Apollo gave him a shining whip in exchange, putting him in charge of the cattle herds.
Hermes and Argos
One of the most celebrated mythical episodes involving Hermes is the killing of the many-eyed giant, Argos Panoptes. The story began with Zeusâ secret affair with Io, the Argive Nymph. Zeusâ wife Hera was quick to appear on the scene but before she could see anything, Zeus transformed Io into a white cow to hide her.
However, Hera knew of her husbandâs promiscuity and was not deceived. She demanded the heifer as a gift and Zeus had no option other than to let her have it. Hera then appointed the giant Argos to guard the animal.
Zeus had to free Io so he sent Hermes to rescue her from the clutches of Argos. Hermes played beautiful music which lulled Argos to sleep and as soon as the giant was nodding off, he took his sword and slayed him. As a result, Hermes earned himself the title âArgeiphontesâ which means âSlayer of Argosâ.
Hermes in the Titanomachy
In Greek mythology, the Titanomachy was a great war that took place between the Olympian gods and the Titans, the old generation of the Greek gods. It was a long war that lasted for ten years and ended when the old pantheon that was based on Mt. Othrys was defeated. Afterwards, the new pantheon of gods was established on Mt. Olympus.
Hermes was seen during the war dodging boulders thrown by the Titans, but he doesnât have a prominent role in this great conflict. He apparently did his best to avoid it whereas Ceryx, one of his sons, fought valiantly and was killed in battle fighting Kratos, the divine personification of power or brute strength.
Itâs said that Hermes bore witness to Zeus banishing the Titans to Tartarus for all eternity.
Hermes and the Trojan War
Hermes played a role in the Trojan War as mentioned in the Iliad. In one long passage, Hermes is said to have acted as a guide and counsellor to Priam, the King of Troy as he tried to retrieve the body of his son Hector who was killed at the hands of Achilles. However, Hermes actually supported the Achaeans and not the Trojans during the war.
Hermes as Messenger
As messenger to the gods, Hermes is present in several popular myths.
Hermes as Messenger
Hermes escorts Persephone from the underworld back to Demeter, her mother in the land of the living.
Hermes escorts Pandora down to earth from Mount Olympus and takes her to her husband, Epimetheus.
After Orpheus turns back, Hermes is tasked with escorting Eurydice back into the Underworld forever.
Hermesâ Symbols
Hermes is often depicted with the following symbols, which are commonly identified with him:
The Caduceus â This is the most popular symbol of Hermes, featuring two snakes wound around a winged staff. Because of its similarity to the Rod of Asclepius (the symbol of medicine) the Caduceus is often mistakenly used as a symbol of medicine.
Talaria, the Winged Sandals â The winged sandals are a popular symbol of Hermes, connecting him to speed and agile movement. The sandals were made of imperishable gold by Hephaestus, the craftsman of the gods, and they allowed Hermes to fly as fast as any bird. The winged sandals feature in the myths of Perseus and helped him in his quest to kill the Gorgon Medusa.
A Leather Pouch â The leather pouch associates Hermes with commerce. According to some accounts, Hermes used the leather pouch to keep his sandals in.
Petasos, the Winged Helmet â Such hats were worn by rural people in Ancient Greek as a sun hat. Hermesâ Petasos features wings, associating him with speed but also with the shepherds, roads and travelers.
Lyre -While the lyre is a common symbol of Apollo, itâs also a symbol of Hermes, because he is said to have invented it. Itâs a representation of his skill, intelligence and quickness.
A Gallic Rooster and a Ram â In Roman mythology, Hermes (Roman equivalent Mercury) is often depicted with a rooster to herald a new day. Heâs also portrayed riding on the back of a large ram, symbolizing fertility.
Phallic Imagery â Hermes was seen as a symbol of fertility and phallic imagery associated with the god were often placed at household entrances, reflecting the ancient belief that he was a symbol of household fertility.
Hermes Cult and Worship
Statues of Hermes were placed at the entrances of stadiums and gymnasiums throughout Greece because of his swiftness and athleticism. He was worshipped in Olympia where the Olympic Games was celebrated and sacrifices made to him included cakes, honey, goats, pigs and lambs.
Hermes has several cults throughout both Greece and Rome, and he was worshipped by many people. Gamblers often prayed to him for good luck and wealth and merchants worshipped him daily for successful business. People believed that Hermesâ blessings would bring them good fortune and prosperity and so they made offerings to him.
One of the oldest and most important places of worship for Hermes was Mt. Cyllene in Arcadia where he was said to have been born. From there, his cult was taken to Athens and from Athens it spread throughout Greece.
There are several statues of Hermes erected in Greece. One of the most famous statues of Hermes is known as the âHermes of Olympiaâ or the âHermes of Praxitelesâ, found amongst the ruins of a temple dedicated to Hera in Olympia. There is also priceless artwork depicting Hermes on display at the Olympian Archaeological Museum.
Hermes in Roman Tradition
In Roman tradition, Hermes is known and worshipped as Mercury. He is the Roman god of travellers, merchants, transporters of goods, tricksters and thieves. He is sometimes depicted holding a purse, which is symbolic of his usual business functions. A temple built on Aventine Hill, Rome, was dedicated to him in 495 BCE.
Facts About Hermes
1- Who are Hermesâ parents?
Hermes is the offspring of Zeus and Maia.
2- What is Hermes the god of?
Hermes is the god of boundaries, roads, commerce, thieves, athletes and shepherds.
3- Where does Hermes live?
Hermes lives on Mount Olympus as one of the Twelve Olympian gods.
4- What are Hermesâ roles?
Hermes is the herald of the gods and also a psychopomp.
5- Who are Hermesâ consorts?
Hermes consorts include Aphrodite, Merope, Dryope and Peitho.
6- Who is Hermesâ Roman equivalent?
Hermes Roman equivalent is Mercury.
7- What are Hermesâ symbols?
His symbols include caduceus, talaria, lyre, rooster and the winged helmet.
8- What are Hermesâ powers?
Hermes was known for his swiftness, intelligence and agility.
In Brief
Hermes is one of the best-loved of the Greek gods because of his cleverness, quick-wit, mischievousness and skills he possessed. As one of the twelve Olympian gods, and as the messenger of the gods, Hermes was an important figure and features in several myths.
https://symbolsage.com/hermes-god-greek-mythology/
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Hekate / Hecate
(from my old amino before I got banned đ, pretty much copy n pasted for reference)
Dogs/puppies [from https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dogs/] -The dog was connected to spirits, the home (as a guard), a friend of the family, also symbolising an easy birth and fertility. Represents the earth element. Also known as the 'black bitch'. Originated in ancient hymns, writings, ancient Greek pottery, stone carvings and statues. Its first symbolism came from the Trojan Queen Hekabe who leapt into the sea after the fall of Troy. Hecate took pity on her and turned her into a black dog which became her familiar. In some Greek towns, black female dogs were sacrificed in Hecate's honour, usually at night. Cerberus, the three-headed hound who guards the entrance of the Underworld is additionally connected to Hecate. In American + European folklore, dogs have always been seen as supernatural in the nature of what humans can't see. Black dogs are thought to roam the locations Hecate holds sacred; desolate roads, moors, cemeteries and the crossroads. Dogs attend her as she roams these desolate spaces.Â
Dragons [credit to https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dragon/]- There are loads of epithets of Hecate. One of her epithets comes from the name 'propylaya' meaning 'she who stands before the gate'. Her hound is believed to be the three-headed dog Cerberus who guards the gateway into the Underworld and some myths believed that dogs replaced dragons. There is imagery associated with Medea with riding her flying chariot escaping from Korinthos after the murder of the king Kreon. Her dragons were a pair of winged, serpentine dragons.Â
Black lamb - A preferred sacrificial offering to Hecate. In modern times, it would be more suitable to have a representative of a black lamb such as a statue or photograph , or somehow getting a living black female sheep into your house without wrecking havoc in front of your altar (I don't recommend having a living animal on your altar!).Â
Fire breathing Horse or Bull - Represents the fire element. It was symbolic of Hades fiery soul. Hecate is often seen in images crowned with bull-like crescent horns. Black bulls became heavily associated with Hecate as sacrificial animals in necromancy rituals. It is a constant reminder of her powers as creator and destroyer symbolised by the phases (waxing and waning) of the moon and seen in the crescent horns of a bull.
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Hydra headed snake or serpent [https://archetypicalwitchcraft.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/understanding-hekate-part-5-the-meaning-of-her-ancient-symbols/]- A solar and underworld symbol. Represents the water element. It was an ambivalent symbol just like the dog, it was connected to the sun, healing and regeneration. Yet there was also a link to the spiritual side, the underworld too. There was old folklore which believed spirits would appear as a snake to bless the house. Snakes, like domestic animals was said to be able to see and feel the presence of spirits, so they were used in necromancy and magic to figure out if there was spirits around.Â
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Other associations are: frogs or toads; black bulls (draped in wreaths of yew and was then slaughtered in her honour);belladonna (poisonous herb!), cypress; dittany; mandrake; honey (anything sweet), dark chocolate (modern interpretation!); red wine (of course only if your in the age to use it, though your not going to be drinking it!);Â torches;Â infernal spirits; dagger; ebony; knives or daggers (obviously be safe and don't do any silly things with it!); twin torches; magickal brewing (so potions); silver; grey; bats; rope; black; mental health; hearth and home; dreams; divination; cauldrons; fate. MORE HERBS:Â hazel, black poplar, cedar, willow, garlic, thyme, almonds, myrrh, mugwort, mint, dandelion, cardamom, hellbore, belladonna, hemlock, mandrake, hecateis (aconite, wolfsbane [poisonous]) opium poppy, verbena, sage, purple honeysuckle, camomile. Any hallucination herbs (be careful obviously and know your stuff and even then check it with someone who also knows their stuff). Owls, bears, ravens, cats (possibly) and donkeys.Â
She is associated with yew, garlic, all poisonous herbs (use representations, so little tiny mushroom statues), oak, white, red, purple, ferrets (polecats), healing, healing herbs (more of the stronger ones and notorious ones), keys (Knowledge, unlocking wisdom, seeing the truth), mandrake, lamps, saffron, sandals in bronze or gold, whips, iron, the wolf, mullet (the blood-coloured goatfish), the new moon, twilight (best time to do rituals with her).
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Also MORE epithets ("An epithet is an honorary and praiseful descriptive title used as part of a name."), all taken and sourced from http://www.patheos.com/blogs/matauryn/2017/07/19/many-epithets-hekate/.Â
Adamantaea âUnconquerableâ, âUntamable Goddessâ
AdmĂŞtos âIndomableâ, âUnconqueredâ
Aenaos âEternalâ
Agallomenen Elaphoisi âRejoicing in Deerâ
Agia âSacredâ, âHolyâ
Aglaos âRadiantâ
Agriope âWild-eyedâ, âFierce-facedâ, âSavage-watcherâ, âwild-voicedâ
Agrotera âHuntressâ
AidĂ´naia âGoddess of Hadesâ, âOf the Underworldâ
Aimopotis âBlood-drinkerâ, âMurdererâ
AiĂ´nos âEternalâ
AizĂŞiÎżs âVigorousâ
Aktinochiatis âRadiant hairedâ, âWith Rays for Hairâ
Aktiophis [Of Unknown Meaning]
Alexeatis âAverter of Evilâ
Alkimos âPowerfulâ, âStrongâ, âStoutâ, âBraveâ
Amaimaketos âUnconquerableâ, âRagingâ, âInvincibleâ, âUnapproachableâ, âUncontrollableâ
Ambrotos âImmortalâ
Ameibousa âOne That Transformsâ
Amphiphaes âCircumlucentâ
Amphiprosopos âDouble-facedâ
Amphistomos âDouble-mouthedâ
Anassa âQueenâ
Anassa Eneroi âQueen of the Deadâ
Androphonos âKiller of Menâ
Angelos âMessengerâ
Antaian Theou âShe Who Meetsâ
Antania âEnemy of Mankindâ
AĂ´roboros âDevourer of the Prematurely Deadâ, âDevourer of the Untimely Deadâ
Apanchomene âThe Hanged Oneâ
Apotropaios âAvertingâ, âAverterâ
Aphrattos âUnnamed Oneâ
ArĂŞgos âHelperâ
Archikos âRoyalâ
Ariste âThe Bestâ
Ariste Cthonia âBest of the Worldâ, âBest in the Worldâ
Arkuia / Arkyia âSpinner of websâ, âEntrapperâ
Arrhetos âIneffableâ
Astrodia âStar-walkerâ, âStar-Courserâ
Atala âTenderâ, âDelicateâ
Atasthalos âPretentiousâ, âRecklessâ, âPresumptiousâ
Athanatos âImmortalâ, âOf Immortal Fameâ
AutophyĂŞs / Autopheus âSelf-generatingâ. âSelf-begottenâ
Azonos âWithout Bordersâ
Azostos âUngirtâ, âWithout a Beltâ
Baridouchos âBarque-holderâ, âSkiff-holderâ
Basileia âQueenâ, âPrincessâ
Bolos âFar-Throwerâ,
BoĂ´pis âCow-eyedâ
Booporos âOx-Herderâ
Borborophorba âEater of Filthâ
Boukolos âOx-Herderâ
BrimĂ´Â âAngry-Oneâ, âTerrifyingâ
Buthios âAbysmalâ, âOf the Depthsâ
Charopos âFerocious-aspectedâ, âFierceâ, âGrimâ, âFlashingâ, âBright, âHaving blue-grey eyesâ, âof the Seaâ
Chthonia âChthonicâ, âOf the Earthâ
ChrysĂ´pis âGolden-facedâ
Chrysosandalos âof Golden Sandalsâ
Chrysosandalaimopotichthonia âGoddess of the Lower World Wearing Golden Sandals and Drinking Bloodâ
Chrysostephanos âGolden-Crownedâ, âCrowned with Splendorâ
ChrysostephĂŞs âGolden-crownedâ
Dadophoros âTorchbearerâ
Dadouchos âTorch-bearerâ
Daeira âThe Knowing Oneâ
Daidalos âCunningâ
Damasandra âDominator of Menâ, âSubduer of Menâ
Damnamene âMeans of Constraintâ
Damnodamia âSubduer of Subduersâ
Damnomeneia âDominating Forceâ
DasplĂŞtis âHorrorâ, âFrightful-oneâ
Deichteira âTeacherâ, âRevealerâ
Deinos âTerribleâ
Despoina âLadyâ, âMistressâ
Dione âGoddessâ
Doloessa / Doloeis âAstute-oneâ, âSubtleâ, âWilyâ, âCunningâ
Drakaina âSerpentâ, âDragonâ
EidĂ´lios âPhantasmalâ, âGhostlyâ
Eileithyia âNurse of Childbirthâ, âGoddess of Midwivesâ
Einalian âOf the Seaâ
Einodia Thygater Demetros âDaughter of Demeter, who is of the Roadâ
Ekklesia âOf the Assemblyâ
Ekdotis âBestowerâ
ElaphĂŞbolos âDeer-huntressâ, âShooter of Deerâ
Elateira âDriverâ, âCharioteerâ
Ellophonos âFawn-slayerâ
Epaine âAwe-Inspiringâ, âGloriousâ, âSublimeâ
Empousa / Empusa [Of unknown meaning, related to the monster Empusa and the idea of phantoms and specters]
Empylios âAt the Gateâ
Empyrios âEmpyreanâ
Enodia âOf the crossroadsâ, âOf the Roadsâ, âOf the Pathâ
Ephodia âTraveling Expensesâ, âProvisions for the Roadâ, âTraveling Suppliesâ, âResourcesâ
Ephoros âGuardianâ âOverseerâ
Epigeioi âof the Earthâ
Epiphanestate Thea âthe Most Manifest Goddessâ
Epipurgidia âon the Towerâ
Episkopos âGuardianâ, âOne who Watches Overâ, âOverseerâ
Epiteichea âThe Strongholdâ, âFortâ
Epi-tymbidia âSepulchralâ
Eranne âLovelyâ
Erannos âLovelyâ
Ergatis âEnergizerâ
Ărigeneia âDaughter of morningâ, âEarly-bornâ
ErĂ´totokeia / Erototokos âBearer of loveâ, âProducing Loveâ, âWho Bore Loveâ
Eukoline âGood Temperedâ
Eupatepeia âNoble-bornâ
Eurippa âHorse-finderâ
Geneteira âMotherâ
Genetyllis âBirth-Helperâ, âGoddess of Childbirthâ, âMidwifeâ
Gigaessa âGiantâ
Gorgo âThe Grimâ, âThe Gorgonâ
Hecatoncheires âHundred-handedâ
Hegemonen âGuideâ
HĂŞgemoye âQueenâ
Helike âRevolvingâ
Hersechthonia âSpeaking From Belowâ
Hexacheira âOf Six Waysâ, âOf Six Handsâ
Hiera âHoly Oneâ
Hieros Pyr âHoly Fireâ
Hipparete âHorse-Speakerâ
Hippokyon âMare Bitchâ, âHorse Dogâ
Hippoprosopos âHorse-Facedâ
Hypolampteira [Of Unknown Meaning â possibly related to light or brightness]
Iocheaira / Iokheaira âArrow-shooterâ, âOne who Shoots Arrowsâ
Indalimos âBeautifulâ
IppokyĂ´n âMare-Dogâ, half dog/ half horse
IppoprosĂ´pos âHorse-facedâ
Kalkaea âWearer of High Bootsâ
Kalligeneia âBearing Beautiful Offspringâ
Kalliste âFairestâ
Kapetoktypos âTomb-disturberâ, âCausing the Noise of Lamentationâ
Kardiodaitos âHeart-Eaterâ, âFeasting on Menâs Heartsâ
Kareia âof Kariaâ, âKrausâ
Karko âLamiaâ, âChild-Eatingâ, âNocturnal Spiritâ
Katachthonia âSubterraneanâ
Katakampsypsaychenos âBender of proud necksâ
Kelkaia [Of Unknown Meaning]
KeratĂ´pis âHorned-facedâ, âHorned Lookingâ
Keroeis âHornedâ
Kthonia âOf the Underworldâ, âOf the Earthâ
Kleidouchos / Kleidoukhos âKey-holderâ, âKey-keeperâ
KlĂ´thaiĂŞÂ âSpinner of fateâ
Kore âMaidenâ
Kourotrophos âChildâs Nurseâ, âNurse of Youthsâ
Krataios / Kratais âPowerfulâ, âDominatorâ, âOf the Rocksâ
Krokopeplos âSaffron-Cloakedâ
Kunolygmatos âDoglike Howlerâ, âWho howls doglikeâ
Kydimos âGloriousâ
Kynegetis âLeader of Dogsâ
Kynokephalos âDog-Headedâ
Kynolygmate âHowling Like a Dogâ, âWho Howls Dog-likeâ
KyĂ´n âBitchâ, âDogâ
KyĂ´n Melaina âBlack Bitchâ, âBlack Dogâ
Kyria âThe Powerfulâ, âThe Supremeâ
Laginitis âOf Laginaâ
Lampadephoros âLamp-bearerâ, âTorch-bearerâ, âWho Warns of Nighttime Attackâ
Lampadios âLamp-bearerâ, âTorch-bearerâ
Leaina âThe Lionessâ
Leontoukhos âHolding a Lionâ
Leukophryne âWhite-Browedâ, âOf the White-Browed Hillâ
Limenitis âHarbor Goddessâ
Limenitikos âOf the Harborâ, âHarbor Goddessâ
Limenoskopos âOf the Thresholdâ, âWatcher of Havensâ, âOn the Harborâ, âWatching the Harborâ
Liparokredemnos âOf the Bright Headbandâ, âBright-Coiffedâ
Liparoplokamos âBrilliant-Braidedâ
Lochias âProtector of birthâ, âGoddess of Childbearingâ
Lykaina âShe-wolfâ
Lyko âShe-wolfâ, âWolf-formedâ
Maera âShiningâ
Mageus âOne who Kneadsâ [Possibly related to Magi]
Makairapos âBlessed-oneâ
Medeousa / Medusa âProtectorâ, âGuardâ, âGorgonâ
Meisopomenos âLaborer of the Moonâ
Meisoponeros âVice-Hatingâ
Megiste âGreatestâ
Melaine âBlackâ
MelaneimĂ´n âBlack-cladâ, âWearing Blackâ
Melinoe âSoothing Oneâ
Mene âMoonâ
Moira âA Shareâ, âFateâ
Monogenes âOnly Childâ
Monoprosopos âWith One Faceâ
Mormo âShe-Monsterâ
Munychia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Nekuia / Nekyia âGoddess of deathâ, âMistress of corpsesâ
Nerteria âInfernalâ, âSubterraneanâ, âNether Oneâ
Nerterios âInfernalâ, âSubterraneanâ, Nether Oneâ
Nerteron Prytanin âMistress of the Deadâ
Noctiluca âLight of the Nightâ, âNight Shinerâ
Noeros âIntellectiveâ
Nomaios âPastoralâ
Nychia / Nykhia âNocturnalâ âNocturnal-Oneâ âGoddess of Nightâ
Nyktairodyteira âNight Riser and Setterâ, âShe that Rises and Sets by Nightâ
Nykteria âOf the Nightâ
Nykti âOf the Nightâ
Nyktiboos âNight-Shouterâ, âNight-Crierâ
Nyktipolos âNight-Wanderingâ
Nyktophaneia âNight-shiningâ
Nymphen âBrideâ
Nyssa âGoaderâ, âGoalâ, âBeginningâ, âTurning Postâ, âAmbitionâ
Oistrophaneia âManifester of Madnessâ
Oistroplaneia âSpreader of Madnessâ, âCausing the Wanderings of Madnessâ
OksyboĂŞÂ âShrill-screamerâ, âShriekerâ
Oletis âDestroyerâ
Opaon âFollowerâ
OpheĂ´plokamos âCoiled with Snakesâ, âWith Snaky Curlsâ
Oriplanos âMountain-roamerâ, âMountain-Wanderingâ
Oroboros âTail-Eatingâ
Ourania âCelestialâ, âHeavenlyâ
Ouresiphoites âWanderer in the Mountainsâ
Oxythymia âGallowsâ, âQuick to Angerâ
PaggennĂŞteira âMother of Allâ
PaiĂ´nios âHealerâ
PammĂŞtĂ´r âMother of Allâ
Pandamateira âAll-tamerâ, âAll-powerfulâ, âAll Subduerâ, âMaster of allâ
Pandina [Of Unknown Meaning â Possibly related to âwhirlingâ or ârotatingâ]
PandĂ´teira âAll-giverâ, âOne who gives everythingâ, âBestower of Everythingâ, Bounteousâ
Pangaios âWorld-wideâ
Panopaia âAll-seeingâ, âOne who sees everythingâ, âPanoramaâ
Panta Ephepousa [Of Unknown Meaning]
Pantos Kosmou Kleidokhos âKeeper of the Keys of the Cosmosâ
PantrephĂ´ / Pantrophos âAll-nurturingâ, âAll-sustainingâ, âwho feeds allâ
Parthenos âVirginâ
Pasikrateia âUniversal Queenâ, âAll-powerfulâ, âwho dominates allâ
Pasimedeonsa âAll-guardingâ, âAll-protectingâ
Pasimedousa âRuling Over Allâ
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Prologue - Part 1
6:03 AM,
Monday,
5th July 1897,
Quelptic Hill,
Doonesberry Town,
Maysteirn, Acordia Petra
â..There was no way to escape..I can hear them tailing on my heels, getting closer and closer with every step. Shouts and screams of anger and vindication echoes within these walls. There was only one place I can turn to..only one place to seek my final refuge..my final sanctuary..our sanctuary. As I finally closed the door behind me, their voices continues to reverberate. There was no way that the door will hold against the juggernaut that is the mob. I immediately went to the altar and turn the pages of the tome..my followers braced themselves for the worst..I've always hoped that it would not come to this..trust have always been my Achilleâs Heel. The banging at the door was getting louder..the page was right in front of me. I read its passage, post haste, to my best of chanting the right words with the right flair..it shall not end like this. Splinters began to fall off from the door..it will not hold much longer. I have to finish the passage..[Groaning]..Curses!..The fiery pain was searing on my skin!..Eating me alive!..I have to keep reading!..I have to..â
â..and jus' like tha'...they suddenly vanished!..Jus' like tha'!â
âHogwash...â
âI beg ya' pardon!â
âHOGWASH! ARSECRACK! HORSE DUNG! COW DUNG! YOUR SHIT-STAINED BACKSIDE!â
âYa' kiss mum with tha' mouth? Anâ ereâ I thought ya' a lady..[Laughing]â
âI am a lady, little brotha'..but only in thaâ presence of another man..you..little brotha'..are no man..â
âOl' right, ol' right! Mock all ya' will! Anâ it's a true story I tell ya!' Thasâ wha' exactly happened there!..â
âYa' geâ in all too worked up over some fairy tales..â
âFairy tales? Have ya' been stickin' ya' head so deep into the underworld?â
âDon't talk back to me like tha', Sebastian! I'm still ya' oldaâ sista'!â
Sebastian went silent for awhile. All that can be heard was the sound of the cart which was carrying buckets, brooms, mops, feather dusters and rags, creaking as they slowly made their way towards a black structure that was coming up ahead.
âWoah..â Sebastian was in awe at the sight of the old black mansion that still stood after half a century later.
âDon't open ya' mouth like tha'..flies will geâ in anâ eat ya' bowel anâ guts.â
âThasâ not true..â
âSure it is..ya' believe in all them little fairy tales, right?â
They finally stopped in front of the steps towards the main entrance. Red octagonal shapes were engraved on the heavy double doors.
[Jingling sound]
Valerie then produced a large set of iron keys before heading towards one of the doors. Seconds later, a clicking sound echoed within the walls inside the mansion. Sebastian can barely contain his excitement.
âDon't geâ all too excited now..ya' don't wanna ge' weâ inside ya' pants..â Her dry humor was almost inhuman.
Finally, she pushes the doors open. Dust and dingy smell immediately fill their nostrils.
[Coughing sound]
âGood heavens..â said Valerie as she was fanning the dust away from her face with her hand.
What they saw before them was definitely a sight to behold.
Grandmaster Lord Caligo's Mansion a.k.a The Black Mansion was located at Doonesberry Town, quite a distance from the nearest civilization where it had been hiding itself on top of Quelptic Hill. The Black Mansion was as mysterious as the man himself. In 1844, a man who calls himself Grandmaster Lord Caligo, arrived in the town one day and simply proceed to purchasing the piece of land on top of Quelptic Hill, in cold hard cash. No one really knows where he was from and the property was never for sale to begin with, but seeing the amount of money that he had to offer, the mayor was more than willing to overlook the policy and approved the purchasing of the public property. The hill had always been a popular spot for the residents to enjoy the scenery from the top of the hill while having a picnic or just a simple trek going up and about. All that changes the moment Grandmaster Lord Caligo bought the place all to himself. The resentment eventually grew bigger at the corruption of the local authorities for allowing the privatization of the public property. They eventually learned that Grandmaster Lord Caligo was more than just a rich outsider, much more than a man with a lavish mansion who had a thing for the darker shade of colors.
âOi! Where are yaâ goinâ now!â
[Running footsteps sound]
Sebastian went running across the hall towards the twin staircases that would spiral next to each other at the end of the large hall. There was also a short staircase that led downstairs, between the other two staircases. Just about every material in the mansion was painted black or made of black materials including the glasses on the high windows that eerily filters the light of the day. There were tall black statues of bizarre looking figures, some with animal heads and holding weapons, standing on every corner of the ground floor. Sebastian went towards the one that looked like a monk wearing a robe with its head down and holding a staff in one hand, standing near one of the staircases. His sister finally caught up with him.
âDamn it, Sebastian! This isn't the Doonesberry Drive on a Sunday!â scolded Valerie while taking her breaths.
Sebastian took a closer look at the sculpted figure.
âAveâ ya' evaâ seen anything so majestic?â asked Sebastian.
âAnâ did ya' know thaâ this whole mansion was made of black marble? Imagine the amount of gold he must aveâ!...Anâ did ya' know why the last lord of the house sold this property?â
âNo..lilâ brotha'..do pray tell..â
Sebastian chuckled for a moment.
âOi sistha'..[Chuckling]..such ignorance!..It was said..thaâ his brothaâ..which was the true lord of the house before he inherited it..gone missing, inside the house!..Jus' like tha'!..Like the wind!..â
His sister was still far from being impressed with his story.
âBut..it was said thaâ he didn't jusâ went missing..he went missing in this house after enterinâ a room..the same fate that befell on the other lords after Grandmaster Lord Caligo...the lost room..â said Sebastian while trying to add an eerie tone to his tale. His sister maintained her blank stare.
âThe very same room thaâ Grandmaster Lord Caligo disappeared into..it was said thaâ the room would appear and disappear on any walls of thaâ house..searching for its next victim..â
âYa' done?â
âWhaâ? Damned be to ya' funny bones! Yaâ aveâ no sense of a good tale!â
âYa' mean thaâ yarn thaâ yaâ spun over anâ over again?â
Sebastian looked disappointed.
âHey sistha', where did Lord Cali go? Huh? Savvy? [Laughing]â
Valerie can barely contain her emotions anymore.
âAnâ did yaâ...â
âSebastian! We're not at some royal grand ball, exchanging tales of grandeur, cock anâ bull on top, sipping our wines anâ admiring stones anâ such! We're ereâ to clean!â Valerie then shoved the bucket containing the cleaning items as well as the mop at his brother.
âWe aveâ 3 days!..3 days!..That's all we aveâ!..Now go to the study room anâ start cleaning!â
Sebastian took them without much enthusiasm. His sister then took hers before heading towards the back of the mansion.
[Sighing sound]
Moments later, after filling up his bucket with water from the well and reaching the upper floor, he finds himself walking along a dark and short hallway right in the middle of the level. Another double door engraved with the same octagonal shape guards the entrance to its domain. He took his time walking slowly towards it before turning on one of the handles.
[Loud clicking sound]
[Creaking sound]
âBy the stars and the moon..â whispered Sebastian.
The room before him was unlike any other room he had ever seen in his life. For starters, it had more than 4 walls, 8 of them to be precise. Sebastian slowly walked towards the center of the room while âspinningâ around. It also had a low illumination from the windows high above the walls.
âWhat manner of a room is this?â
On top of every side of the room just below the windows, hangs a painting. He looks down. The floor was adorned with yet another octagonal shape that seems to âradiateâ from the center of the room with its extending layers until it hits the walls surrounding it. Sebastian took a glance at all of the paintings. The imagery and scenery on the paintings were beyond his imagination and comprehension. All of them, however, share one thing in common. There will always be a dark figure looming somewhere behind. Aside from its semi-obscure silhouette, the most visible part of the figure was its shiny black hand with its forefinger fitted with an emerald ring. At least one of the drawings was that of a naked woman who was her on knees, almost as if she was in sorrow while a dark figure stood ominously at a distance, looking and âwaitingâ on her. Underneath the paintings were long dark red banners that covers the wall all the way to the ground. Sebastian was about to look closely at one of the paintings when suddenly, he heard something.
[Wind blowing sound]
He immediately turns around to locate the source of the mysterious sound.
[Wind blowing sound]
After a few turns, he finally saw it. Towards his far left, underneath one of the paintings, the banner seems to be slightly moving.
[Wind blowing sound]
It was unmistakable that there was definitely an opening behind the wall that was causing the banner's movement. Sebastian hesitated for awhile before he decided to a few steps towards the mysterious occurrence in front of him.
âSebastian...â
It was faint but he was sure that he heard his name being whispered. He approaches the banner cautiously.
âSebastian...â
He stretched out his right arm, inching ever so slowly towards the banner that was lightly waving in the air. The voice became louder.
âSebastian...â
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Pitioss Ruins: Revelations
What better way to start this blog, than with our first infamous FFXV theory about the mysterious Pitioss Ruins...
http://imgur.com/OeP20ZH
Original theory by husband & wife team, Perona77.
WARNING: Major game story spoilers below. Don't read if you haven't completed FFXV.
FOREWARD: First off⌠a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who read & participated in our last thread, Pitioss Ruins; a tale of love & despair. We were blown away at the response it had, and are thrilled that it sparked so many of you to discuss the masterpiece that is Pitioss & got people interested in re-playing this often overlooked gem.
THANK YOU: HUGE shout out to Youtuber Final Fantasy Peasant, for making a video about our theory!! We love you, man! We did want to make it clear that we are the original creators of this theory. Peasant seemed confused as to who originally wrote it, because we mentioned we had gotten a piece of the puzzle from someone elseâs comment about the female statue being an astral corpse. Other than that small detail, everything else is us. Weâve spent DAYS together playing FFXV, researching leads, brainstorming, & writing this all out to share with you guys.
THANK YOU: We also want to thank Felipe C. for leaving us a comment on facebook earlier today. He mentioned that one of the producers of FFXV worked on Bloodborne, a game famous for using environment & item descriptions to bring lore and story in to the game. This lines up with Tabataâs comments during the FEB 2nd ATR that a âcertainâ developer wanted to put a floating head of Ramuh in Pitioss. This cements the story we are about to lay out for you even more. Thanks, Filipe!
In the first thread, everything was written as if one person was writing, but actually, we are a husband & wife who both love Final Fantasy. We worked this story and the previous theory out together. Each of us noticing things that the other didnât.
Link if you want to read our first theory about Pitioss:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/5rwru8/pitioss_ruins_a_tale_of_love_despair/
In our original Pitioss: A Tale of Love & Despair post, several commenters pointed out holes in our theory that we kind of agreed with. This inspired us to revisit Pitioss & think even further outside the box. What we found shocked us. It has turned the game as we knew it upside down. We have all been as blind as Ignis up to this point. Please read our tale to the end, so you can fully grasp the majesty and depth Square Enix has snuck into this game.
The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. It is Ifritâs masterpiece crafted to tell the tale of how he tried to save Eos, Goddess of the Dawn, by travelling into the Underworld to free her from her imprisonment. Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. Pitioss is literally a Greek tragedy stage play set up by Ifrit himself to tell his epic tale to a future Lucian king & memorialize his beloved, Eos.
The Greeks invented stage play with the Greek Tragedies, and this game is heavy with Greek & Roman mythology. It fits the tone of FFXV perfectly. Ifrit is fickle as fire, emotional, and a romantic. He could have just written a book & hidden it somewhere. But no. Heâs artistic. He wants to lay his tale out in a very visual & symbolic way, down to the last detail. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins.
We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolicâŚthen the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. We slowly went through Pitioss and studied every item and what we know they mean. Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way.
Now join us, as we jump back in to the Pit of Eos.
CHAPTER 1: âAN IDEAâ
The play begins in the main hall of Pitioss Ruins. A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. This is Titan holding the Door to the Underworld shut while supporting the earth. A second spotlight shines on Ifrit in a cage. Titan is barring Ifritâs way forward. There is very light, sinister music playing in the background. The stage is set. http://imgur.com/X58taw1
Take a look around, this place has the same architecture as Costlemark Tower and Steyliff Grove, but it is grossly unfinished! There are holes in the ground, loosely stacked pillars, haphazardly placed stones⌠Solheim started to build this place, abandoned it, and later, Ifrit used it to build a sanctuary for his tale. This can be evidenced by the building materials ALL OVER this dungeon, represented through items like rusty bits, chrome bits, metal scraps, building stonesâŚ.Ifrit had a specific reason for this locationâŚbut we will get to that at the end.
We see Ifrit in a cage. The cage represents that he is either imprisoned, locked in thought, or that he is alone in his way of thinking & morals.
After multiple play throughs, weâve noticed sometimes as you approach Ifritâs statue the first time, the OST Overworld Music, âWanderlustâ track begins to play. We think this is important!! The music playing is saying that at this point, Ifrit is outside on the world map, restless, eager to start his journey.
The first puzzle to progress further involves bouncing a giant ball off the cage. We think this symbolizes a Meteor hitting whatever has Ifrit imprisoned. Alternatively, it could represent an âAh-Ha! Moment, or a sudden idea involving the use of a Meteor.
We want to make note of this now because this pertains to the entirety of Pitioss. From here on out, whenever the player hits a switch, it represents an action being taken. Casting a spell, opening a door, etc. There are also a lot of random items in this dungeon that at first might not make sense like Rare Coins, Gemstones, etc. Ifrit is crafting spells with these items throughout his journey to help himself progress. Anytime the player sees a healing item, it represents a time Ifrit used it to heal himself. The red Glowing Wall Guards are literally daemons he has to fight. They glow with the same red lights we see when an Iron Giant spawns. Ifrit placed these Wall Guards throughout Pitioss for two purposes: one to represent when he fights a daemon, and two, to force the player down the correct path of his story. http://imgur.com/22edcA3
The next puzzle lets you get in to Ifritâs area after the âMeteorâ hits it and the cage is lifted. Next, the player jumps on to Ifritâs back so they can then jump to the Meteor and hit the yellow switch to trigger a Meteor that smashes Titanâs statue completely. Proof that this actually happened is that the real Titan has been pinned down by the giant Meteor in Duscae.
Of note inside the cage area we find a Blood sword in the corner, and a Garnet Bracelet literally inside of Ifritâs hand. http://imgur.com/NeuNopK
Blood swords in previous Final Fantasies have the item description of being covered in the blood of its victims. Ifrits in early Islamic lore are said to be formed from the blood of murder victims. Garnets can be associated with fire. Even more compelling here, however, is that they are symbolic of quick returns and a separated love and as such will be given to a lover about to embark on a long journey. AND if we take a look at Ifrit from the battle in Insomnia we can see that he is covered head to toe with jewelry adorned with red garnetsâŚdoes this outright say that Ifrit is represented by this statue? No, but it certainly is a step in the right direction to proving that it IS indeed Ifrit. http://imgur.com/7B4DRI5 Another interesting piece of evidence that the identity of this statue is Ifrit, is Ifrit's artwork from Final Fantasy Tactics: http://imgur.com/R8DVRdX
From here, we climb to the next switch that causes a second meteor to blast through the door that had been blocked. Once Noctis hits this switch he says âThisâll workâ! as if heâs mirroring Ifrit when he uses the second meteor.
SOâŚ.the first Meteor is the one that is holding Titan down at the Disc of Cauthess. http://imgur.com/dTIYTeD
The second Meteor is thrown at the spot that becomes Lestallum in the future. The crater in Lestallum creates an entrance to the Underworld for Ifrit to enter through.http://imgur.com/gGDHe1X
This would explain why daemons sometimes appear in the power plantâŚnot because of star scourge in the meteor, but because deep below is a direct hole to the Underworld! Donât believe us? Listen to this. It is widely believed that Episode Gladio involves going in to the Underworld. http://imgur.com/daYGUAz
We know Gladio leaves the party at Cape Caem. There are screenshots of Gladio in the Taelpar Crag area with Cor. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
We are positive that while Ifrit originally enters the Underworld in Lestallum, he exits the Underworld somewhere in Taelpar Crag. So where does Gladio start his journey with Cor? Taelpar Crag. And where do we first encounter Gladio again after he has left for his mission with Cor?? Answer: The power plant in Lestallum! http://imgur.com/k6yRZY8
Itâs such a weird part of the game, isnât it??? It feels like bad story writing to have Gladio leave the party then randomly reappear later fighting Daemons in the power plant. But no. Square Enix had this planned from the start.
Ok! Letâs move onâŚwe head through the now open door, and the music changes to dungeon music and a notice of officially entering Pitioss Ruins pops upâŚas if saying you weren't in it before. We think the main hall of Pitioss was built by people of Solheim, Ifrit only adds a few details to this room,such as his statue ,cage, and Titan statue. Itâs only once we officially enter the âfirstâ room of Pitioss that we start getting the crazy imagery. From here on out, Solheim only has minor things built, such as hallways or the general shape of the rooms. Everything else seems to be of Ifritâs making.
The next room has the giant spinning globe with another Ifrit statue perched above it. http://imgur.com/lJLKOFp
Notice that his statue seems to have smashed through a steel beam that runs the length of roomâŚmore imagery that he has smashed through something. The globe represents the planet of Eos itself. Thereâs a giant hole in the globe that you have to jump through to reach the center of the globeâŚall while dodging fiery spikes (could this represent lava?).
Another thing to notice here is if you follow the statue of Ifritâs gaze, you can see the statue of Eos far below. http://imgur.com/On4wiww
Until you actually arrive at the statue of Eos, anytime you see her below, it represents Ifrit thinking of her, not that he actually sees her. Why else make her visible at key points throughout Pitioss? RememberâŚ.Ifrit is a romantic, Eos is his beloved, & he is undertaking this massive journey for her sake.
Now, the outside of the globe has an interesting patina that looks like earth crust or perhaps an old, yellowed map. Inside the globe itself we noticed something crazy! There is this weird patterned, mosaic interior. Letâs look at it closer: http://imgur.com/0xfhz4z
Do you see it?? These tiles seem to represent the 4 Four Fiends of Chaos from FF!!! Marilith (the 2 headed snake), Lich (The boney face with a red hat that has souls flying to him), Kraken (aka Ultros with his 8 tentacles), & Tiamat (the white flower with 8 petals). What a stunning detail that so many people seem to miss! We think that there could be a connection to the 4 Fiends within Pitioss, but we couldnât conclusively be sure. In particular, we couldnât find a placing for for Tiamat & Kraken. But we found hints at Maralith and Lich. Maybe someone else could piece this part together.
The way to continue your path is to literally jump into the planet from the top, as if youâre falling into the planet, past lava, through the hole Ifrit made.
CHAPTER 2: THE GREAT RIVER & THE PHANTOM TRAIN
After crossing a short series of jumps, the player lands in a long rectangular room with 5 doors, and another Ifrit statue. http://imgur.com/V1ItTX7
There is an epic story being told in this room. Ifritâs statue is perched at the beginning of the room, looking down the the hall that leads to the Door of the Underworld. http://imgur.com/SUBh6ly
Ifrit isnât in the Underworld yet, rather deep inside the planet Eos, approaching the Door to the Underworld. Interestingly, there is a bright red spotlight shining on him, and in his hand is a Prawn Antennae. http://imgur.com/7CgU5YF
Weird, right? This is all seems very randomâŚbut itâs not, there is a tale being old here. As we discussed earlier, lighting is important here in Pitioss. Red lighting can be used to convey several emotionsâŚ.violence, anger, or passion. Based off evidence of the Prawn Antennae we can decipher what happened here. Prawn Antennae are dropped by the lobster like Karlobos monster. In FFV Karlobos is a boss that guards a great river. After the heroes defeat Karlobos, he creates a whirlpool that wrecks their ship. Based off of these hintsâŚwe believe that Ifrit fought Karlobos who was guarding one of rivers of the Underworld. The red lighting signifies battle. Ifrit won the battle since he has the Prawn Antennae in his hand. Upon being defeated, Karlobos creates a whirlpool that sucks Ifrit into the river. Visualize this hall room as a river that Ifrit has been sucked in to and must traverse to reach the Door to the Land of the Dead.
The first room players can enter is full of moving spikes and platforms. http://imgur.com/AjrpFrD
The spike platforms move up & down, left & right, its pure chaos in here. This room represents the whirlpool, created by Karlobos, which Ifrit has been sucked into.
The second room, we are challenged by some spinning pillars. http://imgur.com/dYbGC4E
We make our way to the top where we then have to jump onto the pillars to reach the next room. This room is after the whirlpool, Ifrit is under the water and must get to the surface. He is still stuck in a mighty river rapid represented by the player spinning as they stand on the top of the spinning pillars.
The third room has spinning wheels and platforms. http://imgur.com/VMlIPPA
The spinning wheels represent his struggle to stay at the surface as heâs still being drug down the river. At the end of this room the player slides down a steep slope. This is a waterfall, and Ifrit uses a spell as he crashes down. The next thing we see is a small cut scene of the door being blown off its hinges and landing in the main path of the hall way room. The cut scene for this is really oddâŚthe door is blown off but it manages to stand up briefly and then falls down in an odd wayâŚ.like a tree falling down. Ifrit uses this tree log to float or cling on to in his desperation to not drown.
Which leads us in to the fourth room. http://imgur.com/3WTNxrR
Here Ifrit is clinging on to his log, struggling to hang on. This is represented by all the obstacles that can push you off your platform. There comes a point in this room where the player is forced to react quickly or be hurt by spikes. And remember, the spikes here in Pitioss very likely represent lava. Ifrit is forced to stand and balance on top of his log as he floats down a river of fire. Thereâs a spike wall that you can barely squeeze past. Noctis even groans here. Heâs getting closer nowâŚ
Finally you reach the shore & must scale up narrow ledges, like climbing up a narrow canyon. On the precipice thereâs one final trial of a wall of lava on each side. http://imgur.com/5BPgvvZ
Ifrit has to squeeze through & finally jump off the cliff, landing safely in a circle of lava. Ifrit triggers a switchâŚthe music changes and the Door to the Underworld opensâŚ
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/PenguinSunday for pointing out that in this final room as you land in the circle of lava and hit the switch to open the door to Doomtrain's room, the music changes from What Lies Within (normal dungeon music) to Disquiet (the music that played during Noctis's nightmare) after you hit the switch.
Interestingly, hidden at the top of the door frame to enter the next room are some Marlboro Vines. This might be a hint as to what awaits in the next room. In FF8 Marlboro Tentacles are a key ingredient to finishing the quest to obtain the Doomtrain summonâŚalso, this door is odd, it is spinning. This could be like a turnstyle at the entrance to a train stationâŚ
This next room is Doomtrainâs station in the Underworld. http://imgur.com/yjHBNik
There is imagery in here that references Charon from greek mythology, but In the Final Fantasy universe, Doomtrain plays this role. Donât forget Doomtrain is in Amanoâs Big Bang art. http://imgur.com/wqyhnL3
(Oh lookâŚNoctis is riding on the back of DoomtrainâŚtowards his deathâŚ)
Doomtrain/Charon ferries the souls of the dead to the Underworld. Upon death, a soul encounters the Ferryman, Charon, who ushers souls across the River Styx to the underworlds. Only those who could pay the fare with coins placed under their tongues are granted passage.
When the player enters the room, seeing Doomtrain for the first time, there is a long perch with a chrome bit on it. Doomtrain literally rolls up to the perch, and it is inserted in to his chin, just where the bottom of his tongue would be! Or you could take it as that it is going down his throat, heâs eating it. This perch is to offer coins for passage on Doomtrain! There are quite a lot of oracle ascension and rare coins in this room hmmm... http://imgur.com/MzNiBhD
After the first time the player has run through a compartment on Doomtrain and has continued along a path to enter the next compartment, thereâs something odd in your way. A hand, jutting out of the wall. http://imgur.com/KWiH8JW
Itâs as if the hand is saying âTickets, pleaseâ!
Many people in our previous thread argued with us that this is NOT Doomtrain. And to an extent, theyâre right, it isnât. This skull contraption is a REPRESENTATION of Doomtrain. Ifrit needs this place to pass the test of time, an actual train would be difficult to maintain.
At the end of this room, before jumping through the last door, we pass through two small halls that highly resemble the exit terminal of a train station. The two pillars framing the exit, are unlike any other pillars seen in Pitioss. They resemble pillars you would see in a grand train station.
CHAPTER 3 âTHE DEEP DESCENTâ
After Doomtrainâs room, youâve moved past the Gates of the Underworld. This is the realm of the dead, the point of no return. http://imgur.com/BqE6RQ1
Up to this point, you could have turned around and walked all the way out, but once you hit the switch to enter here, you cannot go back⌠weâre in it for the long haul now! Noctis even comments on this, saying, âOh noâŚhave to get backâŚhave to get backâŚâ http://imgur.com/IflYDfH
Time & space have no meaning in this room. Itâs darkness and chaos. There is nothing in this room of chaos that looks like people from Solheim built. Thereâs cave outcroppings, even. http://imgur.com/kxyWkoZ
Itâs clear that Ifrit is the architect from here on out. This place is woven with magic.
You can see Eosâs statue clearly at just one point while in this room. There is a ruby bracelet right where your player stands to see her. For thousands of years, Rubies was considered the stone of love. Like no other gemstone in the world, Ruby is the perfect symbol for powerful feelings. It canât be any clearer that Ifrit dearly loves Eos. http://imgur.com/On4wiww
Right after this hall of chaos, the playerâs perspective radically changes & a new somber song begins to play. The perspective of Noctis in this maze adds depth of space & time. This section could almost be seen as a time skip. Itâs showing Ifritâs long and very deep descent. Ifrit truly went to the depths of the planet. There are even Ammonite Fossils & Ancient Dragon Teeth items to represent just how deep he is going.
And then FINALLY, the reason Ifrit has trekked through absolute hell & faced so many dangers is before him. His true love, Eos, Goddess of the Dawn. http://imgur.com/zzM71af
We want to change our original statement that this is Eosâs actual corpse from our previous Pitioss theory post. This is definitely a statue, and we will prove she is a statue by the end of this thread.
So finally, Ifrit has reached his goal. This is Eos. As you walk closer to her, the whole room begins to spin. (At this point, we originally thought that Eos was dead at this part of the tale. However, Reddit User /u/TurtleBees worded it best and several other readers commented that Eos was likely alive at this point. Her picture in the Big Bang art, and her statue both depict her as having her eyes open. This and other points make more sense if Eos is alive here. Several points from here have been rewritten from the original post to convey this point.) What Ifrit sees before him, is not what he was expecting...there is something horribly wrong with Eos. The spinning room symbolizes Ifritâs despair at finding Eos in this state. He came all this way to save her, only to find her chained and...not herselfâŚItâs truly sad.
The player gets closer to Eos and soon the only way to continue is to jump onto her chest. We believe this is Ifrit embracing her & then quickly cutting her chains, freeing her. http://imgur.com/kruAgsG
Something to note here is that you find the Genji Gloves at her navel. http://imgur.com/XqH6F6b
This is key as to WHY Eos was imprisoned and sentenced to the Underworld. She was pregnant. Could she have fallen in love with a human, and become pregnant? That would be a huge taboo in the eyes of the other Astrals... http://imgur.com/B7Sosgw
In Final Fantasy Peasantâs Youtube video about our original Pitioss theory, he made a connection that we did not about the Genji Gloves. That is that Genji represents twins. He thought that could mean Eos gave birth to Ardyn & his brother Izunia. We disagree on that point. We strongly believe that the male twin is the one whose descendants would eventually become the Lucis Caelum family. And the other twinâs line led to the Nox Fleuret family. Ying & Yang. Both families are key to bringing about the Dawn. You canât have light without dark. This explains why the Lucis & Nox family have powers separate from the crystal. They are part Astral. Only someone from the line of Lucis, descendants of Eos, could completely get rid of the star scourge & bring about the dawn. Regardless of whoâs wrong or right, the fact remains that Eos DID exist and she had children, most likely with a human.
CHAPTER 4: âTHE PANICKED ASCENTâ
Now the player progresses by jumping off the top edge of Eosâs hanging rod to fall through to the next room. This part is jarring & scary. You slide down a long shaft very quickly. We believe this symbolizes the quick and sinking feeling you get in your stomach when you realize youâre in very real danger. Noctis takes huge damage from the fall, almost dying. http://imgur.com/2XANm3E
Something terrible has happened to Ifrit after embracing Eos and releasing her. Something that would make even an Astral at peak strength despair in terror. But what?? The story that follows next through symbolism & hints is the climax. Things. Get. Real.
Before this point, Ifritâs journey led him down deeper and deeper into the Underworld. From this point on we only move up, Ifrit has started to make his way back.
The player boards an elevator, as the player rides the elevator, you can notice that it is a very quick ascent. Ifrit is running. He needs to get out.
At the top of the elevator we find several items strewn across the floor. http://imgur.com/AyNUDCq
Most all of them have a common theme: A blue choker to increase HP recovery, Safety Bit to protect from sudden death, Silver Bangle to increase HP, a Megalixer to restore full health. Ifrit is doing his best to keep Eos alive as he makes his escape...but also among the items are Fireproof Inners to protect from fire damageâŚbut what could be burning Ifrit, the Astral of fire, The Infernian?! The answer is Star Scourge. Ifrit is being burned & is taking major damage.
Eos, the radiant Goddess of the Dawn has been imprisoned in pure darkness, surrounded by daemons and souls of the dead. She must have despaired from her fate and let the darkness overtake her, turning her once majestic light into the purest form of darkness to the point that it literally oozes out of her.
We next make our way up a narrow upwards path. Everything in this room is utter darkness. Watch Noctis at this partâŚhe stumbles and trips. http://imgur.com/heCxGFo
This is a blind run towards the surface! ThenâŚsuddenly in the path, we get one last glimpse of Ifrit. http://imgur.com/avPKWYZ
His face has changed! He is skeletal, eyes sunken in. He is dying!! Compare pictures of his face from the first three Ifrit statues: http://imgur.com/lnlyxQo
Now take a close look at his current face vs the figure carrying Eosâs corpse in Amanoâs Big Bang art: http://imgur.com/JLxTmOc
He is completely burned in the Big Bang art. His hair is charred off. His face is skeletal and damaged.
BUTâŚbutâŚPeronaâŚ!! The figure in BB art has wings, and the Ifrit statue doesnât! Donât worry fam, we got you.
Now letâs continue. We really encourage you the player to play this part of Pitioss with this imagery in mind. This room is intense. Past the statue of Ifrit, the only path forward is random, twisted steel beams. The far end of the path is a dead end with a steep wall. Thereâs desperate scratch marks all over the wall, oozing star scourge. http://imgur.com/wjnQ4DB
Ifrit is going berserk, trying desperately to find his way out. At the dead end, you must turn around to follow another path which leads you back to the Ifrit statue. You must jump on top of Ifritâs head to continue, once again taking his perspective. ButâŚat the tip of his horns is an item. http://imgur.com/OLj564Z
The Golden Hourglass. Eos is running out of time. Time is literally weighing on Ifrit's head. Once again from Ifritâs perspective, you must find the way out, a tiny steel beam, itâs his golden, shiny wire of hope!
The steel beam leads to a small tunnel, finally, they are able to ascend. This tunnel twists and turns in such a way itâs disorienting. Almost every surface in this tunnel is covered with oozing, desperate scratch marks and patches of large drag marks, oozing star scourge. You can SEE the terror Ifrit must have felt while desperately trying to claw his way out of the Land of the Dead while clinging to his beloved as her life is quickly fading. http://imgur.com/P3362KR
CHAPTER 5: âTHE CHASM OF MANY DOORSâ
Finally Ifrit has found his way out of the realm of the dead, but before him still lie many obstacles. Ifrit enters a large room with several doors. We as the players have been in this room before, but narratively this is now representing a different area. This is suggested by the continuing dungeon music playing, whereas the first time we come here a different song plays.
Remember how earlier we discussed that Ifrit originally entered via the Lestallum Crater? But in episode Gladio, Gladio and Cor will probably enter the Underworld through Taelpar Crag. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
So narratively, think of Ifrit and Eos being located somewhere deep in Taelpar Crag. OnlyâŚ.itâs not a Crag yet. Itâs a cavern. Letâs not forget that Taelpar Crag was created sometime during the War of the Astrals⌠http://imgur.com/u09FTuc
So you as the player are completing the last obstacles of Pitioss on your trek out. From Ifritâs point of view, he knows that he is on the final legs of his ascent with Eos. He keeps looking for a way out, ripping doors open forcefully, climbing through tunnels, traversing pitfallsâŚbut they are all dead ends. http://imgur.com/TZaQSqK
Time is running short for Ifrit, and he has no way outâŚat one point in this part of your trek out of Pitioss you find the Pendulum accessoryâŚanother allusion to running out of time. http://imgur.com/O2g8rZl
At this point we believe Ifrit goes berserk and starts rampaging in the cavern. He canât find a way out, so he MAKES a way out. Perhaps in his rampaging he causes a major earthquake that tears the Crag open, creating Taelpar Crag as we see it today.
He has finally found his exit
This exit point, must be the âentranceâ in Taelpar Crag that Gladio will use in Episode Gladio. It will be interesting to see what happens with Episode Gladio, if he truly does enter the Underworld through Taelpar CragâŚthen this would only further prove what we are writing here. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
A few other items found on your way out are: Warm Inners (Reduces DMG from ICE), Insulated Inners (Reduces DMG from Lightning), and 2 Behemoth Horns (Bahamut is the Arabic word for Behemoth). Could Ifrit have been anticipating an encounter with Shiva, Ramuh, & Bahamut?? Either way, itâs clear an attack didnât occur, most likely because Ifrit and Eos are literally oozing Star Scourge . The last thing the other Astrals would want to do is touch Star Scourge. Clearly, it is poisonous to Astrals, too.
Regardless, this is the last leg of Ifritâs journey out of the Underworld. The last hallway before the player exits the ruins we find an excessive amount of healing items and the Black Hood. http://imgur.com/oCj5iLQ http://imgur.com/RLIxQe7 It is here that Eos meets her end...Ifrit used all the items and spells that he could, but it was not enough...Eos was too far gone. Just as we exit, we find the Black Hood...Eos died just as she was brought back into the sunlight...she was able to see the day one final time after her eternity of torment.
We then jump out of the side of the building. Not where we entered, but close by, mimicking Ifritâs final exit from the Underworld.
One last question remains⌠If all Ifrit wanted was to be with Eos, why not just die with her down in the Underworld? She is not far from death's door, and he knows that he is going to die, so why the frenzied escape from the depths?
EPILOGUE: âThe True Story of FFXV Revealedâ
Well, Perona77, thatâs a nice little theory you two have there, but itâs only a THEORY! Itâs not canon unless there's proof in the game!
We were convinced that this tale HAD to be true. All of the imagery is there, it is nearly impossible to dispute in at least some of the areasâŚbut it wasnât enough, there were still pieces missing to this puzzle.
Thereâs nowhere to look for information about Ifrit. The Hexatheon donât speak of him, thereâs no lore in game, all we know is that he is âThe Betrayerâ. So we turned to the only interaction we have with Ifrit in the entire game, the battle at the Citadel, hoping for SOMETHING. And boy, did we find something! http://imgur.com/id7RSBy
This short conversation conveyed SO much. Shiva calls Ifrit âPyreburnerâ. Thatâs an odd choice of wordsâŚa Pyre refers to a cremation burialâŚ
âThat heart of flame was turned to ash onceââŚwhat could have turned Ifritâs heart, master of fire, into ash?
âA dead flame must burn no moreââŚWhy is he a dead flame??
âTaste again the chill wind of deathââŚ.So Shiva confirms in game that Ifrit has died before.
Pyreburner⌠He has burned a pyre. This is proof that he has handled a corpse. This perfectly falls into place with everything we have laid out for you about Pitioss Ruins. But somehow, this still isnât quite enoughâŚ
And then we saw it...
http://imgur.com/TChYBA0
Do you see it?? They've been in front of our faces this whole time!
Ifrit burst out of Taelpar Crag, carrying EosâŚand lit a Pyre at the nearby Rock of Ravatogh in order to purify her and save the last bit of her light buried deep inside her heart. He laid his beloved Eos down, lit the Pyre, and collapsed in death next to her, and while embracing her body, burned along with her. As her corpse burned, the ash and smoke rose in the sky, releasing the star scourge throughout the planet. And all that remains are her fossilized wing, and his crystalized horns, still visible from atop The Rock of Ravatogh to this day. http://imgur.com/829cqW6
During the quest âAscend The Rock Of Ravatoghâ Vyv says, âif you really want to impress people, youâve got to show them something theyâve never seen before. They say thereâs a cave near the summit that offers the finest view in all of creation.â This is a sublte hint from square enix! When you arrive at the cave to photograph it for Vyv.âŚthereâs an item nearby. A RUBY BRACELET. Now why say itâs the finest view in all of creation, when itâs just a tiny cave with lava that you canât even enter? Letâs take a closer look at itâŚ. http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd
Huh. This reminds us of something⌠http://imgur.com/4knAvLR
That isn't a cave, it's a crystallized heart. See the veins sticking out? It's Eos' heart! It has a hole in itâŚthe same shape and size of the Dark Lucian Crystal. Letâs see what Bahamut has to say about the Crystal. http://imgur.com/XF86yoy
The soul of the star is in the crystal. The sun is a star. Eosâ soul is in the crystal. This is why it can restore the Dawn. The crystal contains a small shred of the goodness and light that once was Eos. Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. If he had not gotten Eosâ out when he did, and purified her body with the Pyre, her light wouldâve gone out, bringing eternal night. Burning her on the Pyre spread the star scourge into the air, but it was a necessary evil.
But how was the Crystal retrieved?? Letâs look at Ifrit during the Citadel battle. http://imgur.com/PpxwtZR
After Ifrit transferred his soul to his nearby messenger, he must have returned to the Pyre after the flames died down. He mustâve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. That is why he has burns on half of his body. Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! At some point, Bahamut mustâve stolen the Crystal from him. Also, at some point after his first death and retrieving the crystal from Eosâ heart, Ifrit in his messengerâs body must have built Pitioss ruins.
At the cost of his life, at the cost of becoming a Betrayer, at the cost of spreading star scourge unto the world. If Ifrit had not saved Eos when he did, the last of her light would've been extinguished, and there never would of been another dawn!
Ifrit is the hero of this game! Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! Ifrit unintentionally save the world with his act of pure love. http://imgur.com/25AG2hq
But why do the other Astrals call him The Betrayer? We know Titan was blocking his entrance. They most likely believed that nothing was wrong, and Eos would be fine in her prison of utter darkness, continuing the cycle of Dawn for all eternity. In their eyes, all they see is Ifrit coming forth from the Underworld with the Punished One, festering with Star Scourge. In their eyes, Ifrit is to blame for bringing forth the Star Scourge. Wow, theyâre assholes. HmmâŚwho else acts like this? The Gods in Greek & Roman Mythology!! Theyâre Astrals, Divine Beings, couldnât they of purified the crystal themselves? Itâs pure malice that they put this on humans. They want every trace of the original Eos to be erased, and if her bloodline canât do it, then fuck the planet, enjoy your eternal night.
Ifrit then continued to oppose the other Astrals plans to have the Lucian line purify the Crystal. If Eos is reborn, then it would no longer be âHERâ. Ifrit goes as far as to side with and aid Ardyn , slowing the plans of the other Astrals for centuries. Even in the battle at the citadel, Ifrit fights to the death to protect the last sliver of his Beloved. My godâŚhow tragic is this?!? He fought SO hard to save Eos, literally going to the depths of hell & back, giving up his life, only to die in the end, and knowing that his efforts were for naught.
http://imgur.com/cFPnGct
How appropriate is Chapter 0 now?! This story begins and ends with Ifrit.
Even the song, Somnus, fits in to the story of this game now:
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God (Eos) sleeps
And his (her) children (Lucians) start a fire (Ardyn)
Which they cannot extinguish
And he (she) will never be able to awake.
Every tragedy divides,
before our very eyes,
the things which should be loved.
And in this endless night,
In despair,
He (she) can see the dawn
That will awake him (her) in the next morning
Thatâs why the developers left Somnus in the game! Thatâs why it plays during your last trek through Insomnia! It still applies!
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FURTHER EVIDENCE: Letâs look at more evidence that this is Ifritâs corpse next to Eos on the Rock of Ravatogh.http://imgur.com/JLxTmOc
These rock formations perfectly match up to where the horns of Ifrit are seen on the Rock of Ravatogh.http://imgur.com/db15wdd
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/stomp_office for investigating the Rock of Ravatogh and finding this! Pics of a foot and you can even make out a toenail. https://imgur.com/gallery/HrKYy
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/knixion for his find at the Rock of Ravatogh! "I was checking the Heart of Eos and I found the remaining Crystal shards around the heart. You can see the Shards clearly shining looking through the Noctis Camera." Heart of Eos: http://imgur.com/gallery/9N3D0
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/AstralElement for pointing out the painting of what was "Etro" or Eos from FFVXIII : http://i.imgur.com/bCtZW64.jpg Shows her with a hole in her stomach in the exact same position as the statue.
Next, bring up your world map and zoom into the Rock of Ravatogh area. You can see Ifritâs horns, Eosâ wing, Ifritâs wings & spineâŚbut look closely. Do you see the skull of Eos near her wing?? Screenshots donât pick it up very well because itâs very faint, but itâs there. Go look! Thereâs a faint underlying purple color that stands out and looks like a x-ray. You can make out bits and pieces of Eosâ & Ifritsâ bones. Astral bones on the world map and no one noticed! Hereâs the best picture we could get: http://imgur.com/qEaBvTr
Go ahead and visit The Rock of Ravatogh right now. Letâs take a fun tour! First, what do you see strewn throughout the entrance and dungeon of Ravatogh? http://imgur.com/XteOuom
Those are giant logs of petrified wood. Theyâve been stacked up for a pyre & petrified in the pyre blaze.
Ravatogh Tour Part 2: Owlyss Haven. http://imgur.com/JTE3I4g
Owl in latin is Aegolius, and refers to a group of birds of prey who are thought to be an ill omen. So Aegolius refers to a genus of owls, the most common being Boreal Owls. The genus name for Boreal Owls is Aegolius Funereus. Translation: An ill-omened funeral. So SQ even went so far as to leave a hint at a campground!!
Ravatogh Tour Part 3: Canât leave out the crystallikzed heart of Eos! http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd
Go ahead and take a tour of your own. Lots of things look like body parts. Weâve been trying to place the various body parts of Eos & Ifrit in Rock of Ravatogh, but canât 100% nail everything down. We do have our suspicions, though. We personally believe that the arch you walk under to get to Owlyss Haven is Eosâ Pelvic bone. That would make Owlyss literally her wombâŚThe Tomb of the Fierce could be placed Eos feet. Heck, the Mace of the Fierce even kind of resembles bones found in the foot. But since SQ made a point of there being basically vultures present, a lot of their bones are scattered.
Evidence is even in this loading screen for Chapter 15!! http://imgur.com/uwdQhap
The Rock of Ravatogh is on the western side of the continent. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. The sun is setting over Eosâ wingâŚand the night is coming. Her story has ended. Her sun has set. And now she is waiting for the new Dawn.
Ardyn wears a coat with one black wing in the Kingsglaive movie. http://imgur.com/HtbCA6V
Regisâ crown is a subtle hint. He wears a stone crown that resembles a lock of Eosâ hair. PIC: http://imgur.com/22eCplf
This imagery of one wing raised to the sky has been around even back to Versus XIII days. http://imgur.com/g5sjRZ4
Another interesting thing to look at is the Vesperpool. Vesper is the Roman equivalent of the Greek demigod Hesperus. In Greek mythology, Hesperus is the Evening Star, the planet Venus in the evening. He is the son of the dawn goddess Eos. Hesperus' Roman equivalent is Vesper ("evening", "supper", "evening star", "west"). Hesperus' father was Cephalus, a mortal. The word "kephalos" is Greek for "head", perhaps used here because Cephalus was the founding "head" of a great family. Cephalus was one of the lovers of the dawn goddess Eos. So Vesper means "Evening Star".
What weapon do you find in the Vesperpoole tomb?? The Star of the Rogue. The Evening Star. Or rather,Hesperus, son of of Eos. And Hesperus's father was mortal, Cephalus, who was the head of a great family...
Tabata held an Active Time Report on February 2nd. During it, he was asked about Pitioss.
Q. How was Pitioss concept born? A. Some developer wanted to make Ramuh a massive floating head, but that didn't work out but he used his ideas for Pitioss.
So try and puzzle out how a floating head of Ramuh wouldâve fit in with Pitioss, lol!
Daddy Tabata has created an awe-inspiring Masterpiece with Final Fantasy XVâŚit had just been locked away in the depths of Pitioss this whole time.
And nowâŚjust in case thereâs any shred of doubt left in any of your hearts, weâre going to leave this beautiful photoâŚThis is why Ifrit chose this location to build his Masterpiece⌠This is the final act of Ifritâs play⌠This is the first thing you see on the horizon when leaving Pitioss Ruins. http://imgur.com/rZrHLCv
#pitioss theory#pitioss ruins#pitioss dungeon#ffxv#final fantasy xv#pitioss#square enix#perona77#episodegladio#ffxv ifrit#ffxv eos#ffxv theories
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Hekate / Hecate
(from my old amino before I got banned đ, pretty much copy n pasted for reference)
Dogs/puppies [from https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dogs/] -The dog was connected to spirits, the home (as a guard), a friend of the family, also symbolising an easy birth and fertility. Represents the earth element. Also known as the 'black bitch'. Originated in ancient hymns, writings, ancient Greek pottery, stone carvings and statues. Its first symbolism came from the Trojan Queen Hekabe who leapt into the sea after the fall of Troy. Hecate took pity on her and turned her into a black dog which became her familiar. In some Greek towns, black female dogs were sacrificed in Hecate's honour, usually at night. Cerberus, the three-headed hound who guards the entrance of the Underworld is additionally connected to Hecate. In American + European folklore, dogs have always been seen as supernatural in the nature of what humans can't see. Black dogs are thought to roam the locations Hecate holds sacred; desolate roads, moors, cemeteries and the crossroads. Dogs attend her as she roams these desolate spaces.Â
Dragons [credit to https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dragon/]- There are loads of epithets of Hecate. One of her epithets comes from the name 'propylaya' meaning 'she who stands before the gate'. Her hound is believed to be the three-headed dog Cerberus who guards the gateway into the Underworld and some myths believed that dogs replaced dragons. There is imagery associated with Medea with riding her flying chariot escaping from Korinthos after the murder of the king Kreon. Her dragons were a pair of winged, serpentine dragons.Â
Black lamb - A preferred sacrificial offering to Hecate. In modern times, it would be more suitable to have a representative of a black lamb such as a statue or photograph , or somehow getting a living black female sheep into your house without wrecking havoc in front of your altar (I don't recommend having a living animal on your altar!).Â
Fire breathing Horse or Bull - Represents the fire element. It was symbolic of Hades fiery soul. Hecate is often seen in images crowned with bull-like crescent horns. Black bulls became heavily associated with Hecate as sacrificial animals in necromancy rituals. It is a constant reminder of her powers as creator and destroyer symbolised by the phases (waxing and waning) of the moon and seen in the crescent horns of a bull.
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Hydra headed snake or serpent [https://archetypicalwitchcraft.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/understanding-hekate-part-5-the-meaning-of-her-ancient-symbols/]- A solar and underworld symbol. Represents the water element. It was an ambivalent symbol just like the dog, it was connected to the sun, healing and regeneration. Yet there was also a link to the spiritual side, the underworld too. There was old folklore which believed spirits would appear as a snake to bless the house. Snakes, like domestic animals was said to be able to see and feel the presence of spirits, so they were used in necromancy and magic to figure out if there was spirits around.Â
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Other associations are: frogs or toads; black bulls (draped in wreaths of yew and was then slaughtered in her honour);belladonna (poisonous herb!), cypress; dittany; mandrake; honey (anything sweet), dark chocolate (modern interpretation!); red wine (of course only if your in the age to use it, though your not going to be drinking it!);Â torches;Â infernal spirits; dagger; ebony; knives or daggers (obviously be safe and don't do any silly things with it!); twin torches; magickal brewing (so potions); silver; grey; bats; rope; black; mental health; hearth and home; dreams; divination; cauldrons; fate. MORE HERBS:Â hazel, black poplar, cedar, willow, garlic, thyme, almonds, myrrh, mugwort, mint, dandelion, cardamom, hellbore, belladonna, hemlock, mandrake, hecateis (aconite, wolfsbane [poisonous]) opium poppy, verbena, sage, purple honeysuckle, camomile. Any hallucination herbs (be careful obviously and know your stuff and even then check it with someone who also knows their stuff). Owls, bears, ravens, cats (possibly) and donkeys.Â
She is associated with yew, garlic, all poisonous herbs (use representations, so little tiny mushroom statues), oak, white, red, purple, ferrets (polecats), healing, healing herbs (more of the stronger ones and notorious ones), keys (Knowledge, unlocking wisdom, seeing the truth), mandrake, lamps, saffron, sandals in bronze or gold, whips, iron, the wolf, mullet (the blood-coloured goatfish), the new moon, twilight (best time to do rituals with her).
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Also MORE epithets ("An epithet is an honorary and praiseful descriptive title used as part of a name."), all taken and sourced from http://www.patheos.com/blogs/matauryn/2017/07/19/many-epithets-hekate/.Â
Adamantaea âUnconquerableâ, âUntamable Goddessâ
AdmĂŞtos âIndomableâ, âUnconqueredâ
Aenaos âEternalâ
Agallomenen Elaphoisi âRejoicing in Deerâ
Agia âSacredâ, âHolyâ
Aglaos âRadiantâ
Agriope âWild-eyedâ, âFierce-facedâ, âSavage-watcherâ, âwild-voicedâ
Agrotera âHuntressâ
AidĂ´naia âGoddess of Hadesâ, âOf the Underworldâ
Aimopotis âBlood-drinkerâ, âMurdererâ
AiĂ´nos âEternalâ
AizĂŞiÎżs âVigorousâ
Aktinochiatis âRadiant hairedâ, âWith Rays for Hairâ
Aktiophis [Of Unknown Meaning]
Alexeatis âAverter of Evilâ
Alkimos âPowerfulâ, âStrongâ, âStoutâ, âBraveâ
Amaimaketos âUnconquerableâ, âRagingâ, âInvincibleâ, âUnapproachableâ, âUncontrollableâ
Ambrotos âImmortalâ
Ameibousa âOne That Transformsâ
Amphiphaes âCircumlucentâ
Amphiprosopos âDouble-facedâ
Amphistomos âDouble-mouthedâ
Anassa âQueenâ
Anassa Eneroi âQueen of the Deadâ
Androphonos âKiller of Menâ
Angelos âMessengerâ
Antaian Theou âShe Who Meetsâ
Antania âEnemy of Mankindâ
AĂ´roboros âDevourer of the Prematurely Deadâ, âDevourer of the Untimely Deadâ
Apanchomene âThe Hanged Oneâ
Apotropaios âAvertingâ, âAverterâ
Aphrattos âUnnamed Oneâ
ArĂŞgos âHelperâ
Archikos âRoyalâ
Ariste âThe Bestâ
Ariste Cthonia âBest of the Worldâ, âBest in the Worldâ
Arkuia / Arkyia âSpinner of websâ, âEntrapperâ
Arrhetos âIneffableâ
Astrodia âStar-walkerâ, âStar-Courserâ
Atala âTenderâ, âDelicateâ
Atasthalos âPretentiousâ, âRecklessâ, âPresumptiousâ
Athanatos âImmortalâ, âOf Immortal Fameâ
AutophyĂŞs / Autopheus âSelf-generatingâ. âSelf-begottenâ
Azonos âWithout Bordersâ
Azostos âUngirtâ, âWithout a Beltâ
Baridouchos âBarque-holderâ, âSkiff-holderâ
Basileia âQueenâ, âPrincessâ
Bolos âFar-Throwerâ,
BoĂ´pis âCow-eyedâ
Booporos âOx-Herderâ
Borborophorba âEater of Filthâ
Boukolos âOx-Herderâ
BrimĂ´Â âAngry-Oneâ, âTerrifyingâ
Buthios âAbysmalâ, âOf the Depthsâ
Charopos âFerocious-aspectedâ, âFierceâ, âGrimâ, âFlashingâ, âBright, âHaving blue-grey eyesâ, âof the Seaâ
Chthonia âChthonicâ, âOf the Earthâ
ChrysĂ´pis âGolden-facedâ
Chrysosandalos âof Golden Sandalsâ
Chrysosandalaimopotichthonia âGoddess of the Lower World Wearing Golden Sandals and Drinking Bloodâ
Chrysostephanos âGolden-Crownedâ, âCrowned with Splendorâ
ChrysostephĂŞs âGolden-crownedâ
Dadophoros âTorchbearerâ
Dadouchos âTorch-bearerâ
Daeira âThe Knowing Oneâ
Daidalos âCunningâ
Damasandra âDominator of Menâ, âSubduer of Menâ
Damnamene âMeans of Constraintâ
Damnodamia âSubduer of Subduersâ
Damnomeneia âDominating Forceâ
DasplĂŞtis âHorrorâ, âFrightful-oneâ
Deichteira âTeacherâ, âRevealerâ
Deinos âTerribleâ
Despoina âLadyâ, âMistressâ
Dione âGoddessâ
Doloessa / Doloeis âAstute-oneâ, âSubtleâ, âWilyâ, âCunningâ
Drakaina âSerpentâ, âDragonâ
EidĂ´lios âPhantasmalâ, âGhostlyâ
Eileithyia âNurse of Childbirthâ, âGoddess of Midwivesâ
Einalian âOf the Seaâ
Einodia Thygater Demetros âDaughter of Demeter, who is of the Roadâ
Ekklesia âOf the Assemblyâ
Ekdotis âBestowerâ
ElaphĂŞbolos âDeer-huntressâ, âShooter of Deerâ
Elateira âDriverâ, âCharioteerâ
Ellophonos âFawn-slayerâ
Epaine âAwe-Inspiringâ, âGloriousâ, âSublimeâ
Empousa / Empusa [Of unknown meaning, related to the monster Empusa and the idea of phantoms and specters]
Empylios âAt the Gateâ
Empyrios âEmpyreanâ
Enodia âOf the crossroadsâ, âOf the Roadsâ, âOf the Pathâ
Ephodia âTraveling Expensesâ, âProvisions for the Roadâ, âTraveling Suppliesâ, âResourcesâ
Ephoros âGuardianâ âOverseerâ
Epigeioi âof the Earthâ
Epiphanestate Thea âthe Most Manifest Goddessâ
Epipurgidia âon the Towerâ
Episkopos âGuardianâ, âOne who Watches Overâ, âOverseerâ
Epiteichea âThe Strongholdâ, âFortâ
Epi-tymbidia âSepulchralâ
Eranne âLovelyâ
Erannos âLovelyâ
Ergatis âEnergizerâ
Ărigeneia âDaughter of morningâ, âEarly-bornâ
ErĂ´totokeia / Erototokos âBearer of loveâ, âProducing Loveâ, âWho Bore Loveâ
Eukoline âGood Temperedâ
Eupatepeia âNoble-bornâ
Eurippa âHorse-finderâ
Geneteira âMotherâ
Genetyllis âBirth-Helperâ, âGoddess of Childbirthâ, âMidwifeâ
Gigaessa âGiantâ
Gorgo âThe Grimâ, âThe Gorgonâ
Hecatoncheires âHundred-handedâ
Hegemonen âGuideâ
HĂŞgemoye âQueenâ
Helike âRevolvingâ
Hersechthonia âSpeaking From Belowâ
Hexacheira âOf Six Waysâ, âOf Six Handsâ
Hiera âHoly Oneâ
Hieros Pyr âHoly Fireâ
Hipparete âHorse-Speakerâ
Hippokyon âMare Bitchâ, âHorse Dogâ
Hippoprosopos âHorse-Facedâ
Hypolampteira [Of Unknown Meaning â possibly related to light or brightness]
Iocheaira / Iokheaira âArrow-shooterâ, âOne who Shoots Arrowsâ
Indalimos âBeautifulâ
IppokyĂ´n âMare-Dogâ, half dog/ half horse
IppoprosĂ´pos âHorse-facedâ
Kalkaea âWearer of High Bootsâ
Kalligeneia âBearing Beautiful Offspringâ
Kalliste âFairestâ
Kapetoktypos âTomb-disturberâ, âCausing the Noise of Lamentationâ
Kardiodaitos âHeart-Eaterâ, âFeasting on Menâs Heartsâ
Kareia âof Kariaâ, âKrausâ
Karko âLamiaâ, âChild-Eatingâ, âNocturnal Spiritâ
Katachthonia âSubterraneanâ
Katakampsypsaychenos âBender of proud necksâ
Kelkaia [Of Unknown Meaning]
KeratĂ´pis âHorned-facedâ, âHorned Lookingâ
Keroeis âHornedâ
Kthonia âOf the Underworldâ, âOf the Earthâ
Kleidouchos / Kleidoukhos âKey-holderâ, âKey-keeperâ
KlĂ´thaiĂŞÂ âSpinner of fateâ
Kore âMaidenâ
Kourotrophos âChildâs Nurseâ, âNurse of Youthsâ
Krataios / Kratais âPowerfulâ, âDominatorâ, âOf the Rocksâ
Krokopeplos âSaffron-Cloakedâ
Kunolygmatos âDoglike Howlerâ, âWho howls doglikeâ
Kydimos âGloriousâ
Kynegetis âLeader of Dogsâ
Kynokephalos âDog-Headedâ
Kynolygmate âHowling Like a Dogâ, âWho Howls Dog-likeâ
KyĂ´n âBitchâ, âDogâ
KyĂ´n Melaina âBlack Bitchâ, âBlack Dogâ
Kyria âThe Powerfulâ, âThe Supremeâ
Laginitis âOf Laginaâ
Lampadephoros âLamp-bearerâ, âTorch-bearerâ, âWho Warns of Nighttime Attackâ
Lampadios âLamp-bearerâ, âTorch-bearerâ
Leaina âThe Lionessâ
Leontoukhos âHolding a Lionâ
Leukophryne âWhite-Browedâ, âOf the White-Browed Hillâ
Limenitis âHarbor Goddessâ
Limenitikos âOf the Harborâ, âHarbor Goddessâ
Limenoskopos âOf the Thresholdâ, âWatcher of Havensâ, âOn the Harborâ, âWatching the Harborâ
Liparokredemnos âOf the Bright Headbandâ, âBright-Coiffedâ
Liparoplokamos âBrilliant-Braidedâ
Lochias âProtector of birthâ, âGoddess of Childbearingâ
Lykaina âShe-wolfâ
Lyko âShe-wolfâ, âWolf-formedâ
Maera âShiningâ
Mageus âOne who Kneadsâ [Possibly related to Magi]
Makairapos âBlessed-oneâ
Medeousa / Medusa âProtectorâ, âGuardâ, âGorgonâ
Meisopomenos âLaborer of the Moonâ
Meisoponeros âVice-Hatingâ
Megiste âGreatestâ
Melaine âBlackâ
MelaneimĂ´n âBlack-cladâ, âWearing Blackâ
Melinoe âSoothing Oneâ
Mene âMoonâ
Moira âA Shareâ, âFateâ
Monogenes âOnly Childâ
Monoprosopos âWith One Faceâ
Mormo âShe-Monsterâ
Munychia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Nekuia / Nekyia âGoddess of deathâ, âMistress of corpsesâ
Nerteria âInfernalâ, âSubterraneanâ, âNether Oneâ
Nerterios âInfernalâ, âSubterraneanâ, Nether Oneâ
Nerteron Prytanin âMistress of the Deadâ
Noctiluca âLight of the Nightâ, âNight Shinerâ
Noeros âIntellectiveâ
Nomaios âPastoralâ
Nychia / Nykhia âNocturnalâ âNocturnal-Oneâ âGoddess of Nightâ
Nyktairodyteira âNight Riser and Setterâ, âShe that Rises and Sets by Nightâ
Nykteria âOf the Nightâ
Nykti âOf the Nightâ
Nyktiboos âNight-Shouterâ, âNight-Crierâ
Nyktipolos âNight-Wanderingâ
Nyktophaneia âNight-shiningâ
Nymphen âBrideâ
Nyssa âGoaderâ, âGoalâ, âBeginningâ, âTurning Postâ, âAmbitionâ
Oistrophaneia âManifester of Madnessâ
Oistroplaneia âSpreader of Madnessâ, âCausing the Wanderings of Madnessâ
OksyboĂŞÂ âShrill-screamerâ, âShriekerâ
Oletis âDestroyerâ
Opaon âFollowerâ
OpheĂ´plokamos âCoiled with Snakesâ, âWith Snaky Curlsâ
Oriplanos âMountain-roamerâ, âMountain-Wanderingâ
Oroboros âTail-Eatingâ
Ourania âCelestialâ, âHeavenlyâ
Ouresiphoites âWanderer in the Mountainsâ
Oxythymia âGallowsâ, âQuick to Angerâ
PaggennĂŞteira âMother of Allâ
PaiĂ´nios âHealerâ
PammĂŞtĂ´r âMother of Allâ
Pandamateira âAll-tamerâ, âAll-powerful���, âAll Subduerâ, âMaster of allâ
Pandina [Of Unknown Meaning â Possibly related to âwhirlingâ or ârotatingâ]
PandĂ´teira âAll-giverâ, âOne who gives everythingâ, âBestower of Everythingâ, Bounteousâ
Pangaios âWorld-wideâ
Panopaia âAll-seeingâ, âOne who sees everythingâ, âPanoramaâ
Panta Ephepousa [Of Unknown Meaning]
Pantos Kosmou Kleidokhos âKeeper of the Keys of the Cosmosâ
PantrephĂ´ / Pantrophos âAll-nurturingâ, âAll-sustainingâ, âwho feeds allâ
Parthenos âVirginâ
Pasikrateia âUniversal Queenâ, âAll-powerfulâ, âwho dominates allâ
Pasimedeonsa âAll-guardingâ, âAll-protectingâ
Pasimedousa âRuling Over Allâ
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