#ANYWAYS…read rebel rising & the rogue one novelization
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bisexualwintermoon · 1 year ago
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but its like. why do Some People in this fandom love characters like anakin & crosshair and excuse all his crimes but hate saw and say that his death is “satisfying” bc he “killed tech” and call him “worse than the empire.” why is that. like i mean i know why.
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jyndor · 2 years ago
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It’s just me or it was so weird that Jyn was almost raised like a daughter by Ashkaya, used her daughter’s name and clothes and all and then Revis made her date the dead girl’s brother 😭 idk they could have done the romance without making all these references to Tanith it felt so awkward to read (or maybe it’s just me because I don’t like the author’s works lol)
truly so many things could be different about rebel rising lmfao fairly certain that hadder just existed so that jyn didn't die without fucking or something lol as if she didn't live her life from seventeen to 21 just before she got hauled off to wobani like im all for headcanoning however we all want to and trust me as a demisexual bisexual bitch myself ace jyn is valid as hell but To Me jyn fucks (if cassian gets to have a cutie on space miami - two cuties including rue we said bi rights - than so does jyn lol)
but yeah it's a bit :\ the only parts of that book worth anything are the saw chapters, the maia bits and jyn in prison. also jyn is very clearly queer as hell in that book i mean shes queer as hell everywhere but like the way she Notices women as a girl lol im just saying idryssa was her first crush (the way jyn stared at how the blue glitter made her skin look lol), maia was her first girlfriend, etc. so those parts have rights.
but i'd be willing to retcon the whole thing if they would just do a jyn mini series or something lol age her ass up like they did with cassian and tell a good story about a child soldier who is left behind and has to figure out living on her own in the margins for the next several years
also is the book saying that jyn thinks cassian looks like hadder there because she thinks he looks familiar? lol idk it could be a play on the 'face of a friend' thing or *conspiracy theory* they've met before but thats just me.
im a bit of a hypocrite for being all >:( about them retconning whatever the books say about cassian but totally game for retconning jyn's background from rebel rising because like as much as i think hadder deserves respect for being jyn's first love (allegedly im still not buying that she wasn't in love with maia) im sorry its a bit :///// like you don't need jyn to pretend to be his sister for them to have a cute teen romance, in fact i would argue it makes it significantly less cute for her to be assuming his dead sister's identity lmfao like ????
i just want my teenage/early twenties dirtbag jyn erso show let felicity play her againnnn lol if we're to believe diego is playing a guy twenty years younger than he is we can believe felicity is playing some late teens/early twenties girlie, let her hook up with cuties of all species and genders, let her beat the shit out of fascists, let her feed stray tookas, let her rage at her dads, let her rage at her mother, let her get into a bar fight with cassian andor (he's undercover and she's got a wig on so its fine), let her have flashbacks to her time with saw because we should have seen that, let her have nightmares about orson krennic (naur), let my girl be a messy bitch in leather and kohl-lined eyes I WANT TO SEE IT
all this because they killed them off at the end of rogue one and didn't let us have rogue two
yeah anyway the rogue one novelization >>>>>> rebel rising because all of the novelization is great (even the part where cassian doesn't shoot galen because he has jyn's eyes which i find lmfao no. maybe that plays a part in him realizing that if he kills galen he kills the spark of hope he's found in jyn and therefore - because they're mirrors - he'd be killing something in himself, but the novel doesn't go into it).
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empress-violetlight · 2 years ago
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Mini-Review of “Thrawn” (2017) by Timothy Zahn by a Legends Fan
I caved, and started reading Timothy Zahn's new Star Wars: Thrawn books, set in the post-Disney canon. It was a hard sell for me, since I'm a big Old Expanded Universe fan, and while I understood at the time why Disney wanted to do their own thing when they bought the franchise, the garbage sequel trilogy did *not* make it worth it, IMO. At least the Disney + series and Rogue One are a *lot* better. Anyway, Thrawn is my all-time favourite character from the old EU/"Legends", and while I was happy he, at least, made the transition to the new canon (still waiting on Mara Jade), Rebels did him dirty, IMO. That dumb cartoon took Thrawn, the tactical genius, renowned for being the "villain" (more of an anti-villain at best) who ran the rebels ragged, who stood out in a universe filled with silly space wizards by using his mind as his weapon, and tried to make a Scooby Do villain out of him, chasing around a bunch of teenagers. So even though they got Thrawn's original creator, Timothy Zahn, to write him again in the novels, I didn't have any high hopes. Even less so when it came out how Disney's been treating Alan Dean Foster in particular, and any other old EU author who's name isn't Timothy Zahn (i.e. denying them royalties while still publishing their books). hollywoodreporter.com/business…alties-disney-1234951422/ Anyway, I'm happy to say that Zahn's writing exceeded my expectations! Of course, I shouldn't have doubted the one author who actually tried to insert some real science fiction ideas into Star Wars, like the mobile mining platform, Nomad City, on a slowly rotating, Mercury-like planet in "Heir to the Empire". The new novel rewrites Thrawn's early years in the Empire, and his rise to Grand Admiral, all the while giving him a new, human friend, an imperial named Eli Vanto, who is officially Thrawn's aide and "translator" (not that he really needs it), but actually his protégé, even if it takes Eli himself a while to realize it.  Thrawn, as a character inspired by Sherlock Holmes, always needs a “Watson” to interpret him.  In the original Thrawn trilogy, that role was played by Captain Pellaeon (who would eventually rise to the rank of Grand Admiral himself in the old EU).  In this novel, that’s Eli’s role.  Eli is quite different from Pellaeon, in that he’s much younger, and not in a command position himself.  He also doesn’t seem to have a lot of Pellaeon’s foresight (like Pellaeon’s distrust of the Noghri and Joruus C’baoth).  It’s still interesting to see the interaction between him and Thrawn.  I do wish the book had gone into a bit more detail about Eli’s own special interest -- mathematics.  I don’t get the impression as-is that his interest is anywhere near Thrawn’s level with art.  
Another difference from the old EU, however, is that we do get to see Thrawn’s point of view directly, however.  Again, he seems very Holmes-esque, with Thrawn opening every chapter with an excerpt from him POV, which, we later learn, are parts from his journals.  He also often mentally describes the body language and apparent feelings of the other characters.  As an Autistic person with body language “blindness”, I interpret this as Thrawn having actively taught himself to consciously read others’ body language -- this isn’t something that comes naturally to him, unlike an Neurotypical character.  It’s interesting, and is textual evidence to support reading him as an autistic character, which fits well with his already-suggested neurotype in Legends.  
The B plot involves a lot of Imperial politics, and one woman, Arihnda Pryce’s, quest for revenge on the Senator and Moff who screwed her family over. Hers and Thrawn's paths intersect every so often.   I’m not a big fan of other characters constantly thinking Thrawn just sucks at politics.  It seems more an attempt at “Gary Stu” busting than anything else.  Thrawn, while amazing, was never flawless in the old EU (his oversights regarding C’baoth and the Noghri being the most obvious reasons why), so the whole “he’s clueless at politics” angle seems unnecessary, IMO.  I prefer to interpret this plot point as being that Thrawn simply doesn’t care about politics, and others interpret his attitude as not knowing.  It wouldn’t be the first time someone underestimated him.  
The thing I'm loving most, though, is that Zahn doesn't have to even bother with the movie characters! Luke, Leia, Han? Who's that? Who cares! The only movie characters who have even made an appearance are Palpatine and Grand Moff Tarkin, and then, they were little more than "guest stars" for a single chapter each.  Palpatine in particular seems to have far less of a role in Thrawn’s career than in the old EU, and their working relationship isn’t as strong.  It’s unfortunate, but I don’t think the Empire of the Hand is ever getting off the ground in this universe -- that was a demonstration of Palpatine’s trust in Thrawn, and eventually it became something far more in the old EU, even with other authors besides Zahn not quite knowing what to do with it, and by the New Jedi Order series, pretty much ignoring its existence.  The point here is that Disney’s version of Palpatine would never trust Thrawn to set up his own shadow Empire.  Probably because the Yuuzhan Vong invasion isn’t a thing in this version -- another unfortunate change.  They would have made much more interesting villains in the sequel trilogy than the craptacular Empire wannabe First Order and Emo Ren.     
Thrawn himself is the same genius I remember. In one instance, rebels are holed up on an island on some backwater planet, with tough planetary shields Thrawn's Star Destroyer's turbolasers can't get through. The rebels, however, did not shield the surrounding ocean, so Thrawn targets a few spots on the surrounding ocean floor, and lets the tsunamis his turbolasers create take care of the rebels for him. It's just as brilliant a tactic as anything from the original Thrawn trilogy.  However, we also get far more of a sense of just what a great leader Thrawn is, and much more of a sense of how important everyone under his command is to him, which was a lot more subtle in the original Thrrawn trilogy, only really becoming obvious in the Hand of Thrawn duology.  Ultimately, his character is really what’s most important.  That’s what made him stand out in the old EU in the first place, after all.    
Like "The Mandalorian", and "Rogue One" “Star Wars: Thrawn” proves there's so much more to that Galaxy Far Far Away than just the Skywalker Soap Opera. It's a much needed reminder, especially since those types of stories tend to be the better ones in Star Wars.
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ponett · 5 years ago
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i was finally able to see the bad star war that everyone said was bad. as it turns out, it was bad. here’s a read more post with my thoughts on it so that i don’t spam my twitter with spoiler tweets
for a baseline: i like the original trilogy, but i don’t think any of those movies are perfect. i think the prequels had some good ideas but i were mostly terrible. i love the clone wars (both versions) and rebels. while i admit that tfa was extremely similar to a new hope, i thought it was executed great and had a wonderful new cast that showed a ton of promise. i liked rogue one, although i found its first act really sloppy. and i have some quibbles about tlj, but it had an incredibly strong vision and actual themes, and i’d consider it my favorite in the series
i’m exactly the kind of person who was always going to hate the rise of skywalker, because it’s basically a bad fanfic written by someone who didn’t like tlj and wanted to “fix” the story. like that bizarre story treatment jenny nicholson read for this movie. the bad one. it was like that
it wasn’t all bad i guess. here are the small things i liked:
some of the new environments were cool. there was cool imagery and practical effects work
i appreciated that the moon of endor where the death star wreckage was wasn’t just the one with the ewoks, and thought the vibe there was cool
zorii bliss’s armor was really cool
the image of the fleet of star destroyers all lined up was striking
i liked that the ghost showed up for the final battle
i liked that ahsoka was one of the jedi voices rey heard, even though that kind of implies that ahsoka is, uh... dead?
while extremely fucking trite and dumb, i’ll admit the closing scene on tatooine got me. yeah, rey has no real connection to this place and it’s just a nostalgic throwback, but i’m a sucker for full circle endings like that
uh. that’s about it
this movie kicks off in the middle of an action scene and just kind of keeps jumping to new setpieces nonstop until it’s over. new characters and locations get introduced and then moved past in the blink of an eye. there’s no time to let any of it sink in. it feels like abrams crammed two movies worth of shit into this one to make up for the the fact that some people didn’t like tlj, and as a result none of it resonates. i just felt so empty throughout most of the film. events were happening on screen and none of it mattered
thoughts about individual elements:
LEIA
putting the scenes with the recycled footage of carrie fisher at the beginning of the film completely took me out of it. it was so obvious that she wasn’t really responding to what was being said, and the conversations had just been built around the limited leia lines they could use
the dialogue scenes with leia felt like a space ghost interview
C-3PO
was in this movie a lot for some reason? i guess abrams wanted to make up for how little c-3po there was in the last two movies. they tried to have that emotional moment where his memory is wiped, but then they just turned his memory loss into a big joke?? and then he got most of his memories back anyway
in general, the movie is afraid to let the audience be uncomfortable for long. 3po’s memory loss. the supposed deaths of chewbacca and babu frik, that sort of thing. you’re not allowed to be sad. after tlj so effectively built tension throughout the film and really pushed the heroes to the brink, this is a disappointment
LANDO
is here because he needed to show up, and because it’s a throwback to have him pilot the falcon again. he’s just kind of there with little to do and no arc
FINN, POE, AND ROSE
before the movie came out, i had low expectations. all i really wanted was to get one last fun adventure with the new characters. when i started to hear about the spoilers, my expectations sank even lower. but maybe i would still get this
nah! rose gets like two minutes of screentime because redditors hated her, and finn and poe are barely even characters. they don’t have arcs in this film, they’re just sidekicks on rey’s journey
finn really hurts. prior to tfa’s release, finn was framed as the new star. this was, of course, a bait and switch, as rey was really the new jedi. (finn apparently IS force sensitive according to this one, but hey! we can only have one big jedi hero, so like leia before him, i guess we’ve gotta wait for some EU novel to give finn a lightsaber)
but finn was still a central character in the last two films, and he had so much potential. he was a stormtrooper who defected! that’s something new! that’s interesting! it complicates the black and white morality of the series. but no. that’s been all but abandoned at this point
many have complained about how tfa establishes that basically all the stormtroopers are people who were kidnapped as children and brainwashed by the first order... but then they still have no qualms about gleefully killing them. in the first two movies i was like “yeah, it sucks that they have to kill those guys, but if it’s to prevent genocide, it’s understandable. that’s just war. maybe they’ll touch on it in the last movie.” so in this one, they kept reminding the audience that the stormtroopers were enslaved as children. jannah is even introduced as another stormtrooper who defected like finn. but then... it goes nowhere. finn doesn’t get any first order troops to defect. they don’t care about the other stormtroopers. how many hundreds of thousands of enslaved soldiers did they kill when they blew up those star destroyers
it was nice to see finn and poe take the charge as leaders in the end, but it also feels like they didn’t take the lessons from tlj to heart. the whole point of that story was that one-in-a-million shot heroic suicide missions aren’t worth it, and that they’re more useful to the resistance alive than they are as martyrs. but then in the climax of this film they take like 30 ships to go fight a fleet of a hundred fucking star destroyers
on the subject of that final battle: i thought that the ending of tlj was so powerful. the resistance was decimated, but they still had hope, because they knew there were others out there who could help. people like rey, or the broom boy, who came from nothing but had good hearts. in this one, though, they say that apparently nobody responded to the leia’s call for help in the entire year since the last film. everyone only shows up during the climax after lando’s like “no, but for real guys, we need help”
and i did think that that sequence was cool. and i did like seeing the ghost among the ships. it was fun. the message that fascists like the first order rule by making people feel isolated, and that they’re defeated by realizing that good people are never alone? that was good. i thought that was a strong message. but it’s such a minor footnote on a movie that’s so bad in so many other ways
oh and they made the latino dude a drug dealer. okay. thanks for that
KYLO REN
i hate that they redeemed kylo and i hate the way they did it
yes, him being coerced to turn to the dark side by snoke (who was apparently just a puppet controlled by palpatine all along (UGH)) as a kid was tragic. but that doesn’t excuse his actions. kylo was given infinite second chances throughout the trilogy, and every time he responded with violence. he killed so many people himself, and willingly took part in a fascist regime that killed billions. yes, his story is sad, but he’s not some poor little boy, he’s thirty fucking years old and he vents his trauma by slaughtering innocent people
literally the entire main trio of the original trilogy died because of this asshole. han tried to talk to him in the first movie, and got stabbed and dropped into a pit. luke died astral projecting to face him in tlj. and now leia just kind of arbitrarily died to flip the switch in his brain from bad to good from across the galaxy. it’s literally as simple as that. he doesn’t have a personal journey here. he just stops being evil because his mom made him through the force
like, again. all those enslaved stormtrooper grunts who had been brainwashed since they were kids? gunned down. but giving kylo endless second chances is the most important thing in the world
and then they end the movie by having this creepy abusive stalker genocidal asshole sadboy kiss rey, retroactively framing their dynamic as a romantic one. just, gross as hell. even in this one, for most of the film, all he does is threaten rey and boss her around
i dunno. i thought the first order were interesting as antagonists. yeah, they were just the empire 2.0. but i thought it was appropriate! the idea was that just because palpatine was dead and gone didn’t mean that fascism was gone. there were still hateful people who wanted to rule the galaxy via genocide. like how we still have nazis in the 21st century. except, oops! palpatine was actually alive and pulling the strings the entire time, so now that theme’s out the window. we just have to kill him again FOR REAL this time and now the galaxy will actually be safe
people wondered where the first order would go after snoke died in tlj. but it was so obvious to me? kylo was in charge. kylo was always the most interesting bad guy. just let him call the shots and be the final adversary. but no. that wasn’t good enough. we had to bring back palpatine as the jrpg final boss to have an epic conclusion
REY
oh, poor rey. youtube critics got mad that a girl could be a strong jedi without being related to some other powerful force user from the old movies, so now she’s stuck being a palpatine forever
i will admit, the protagonist of the new movies being related to palpatine but still being a good person in spite of her heritage... that could have been something. but it’s so clearly not what they had in mind from the start, and it spits in the face of the last movie’s themes. it turns out greatness CAN’T come from anywhere. it has to come from one of these select few Special Bloodlines
oh! and this ALSO reframes rey’s parents abandoning her and selling her into slavery as an act of kindness, because they had to hide her from her spooky evil grandpa. so THAT’S fun. (edit: OH! and luke and leia knew about rey the whole time!!! and didn’t go out and look for her!!!!)
it’s just. it’s so bad what they did to rey. i don’t know if i even have much to elaborate on there, everyone’s already said how stupid it is
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overall, i still wouldn’t say it’s the WORST star wars movie. it’s more watchable than the phantom menace, that’s for damn sure. the actors put in effort. the sets and practical effects are nice. it’s just so... empty
tros possibly feels the closest to how i imagined the new trilogy would be when it was first announced, but in a bad way. a movie built entirely on established ideas of What Star Wars Is with nothing new to bring to the table. it’s like a bad eu novel. just recycled imagery, cameos from characters we already know, palpatine coming back from the dead, that sort of thing. it’s a movie made by committee to appease reddit. it’s nothing
now i gotta use that free trial of disney plus to watch the mandalorian and wash the taste out of my mouth i guess
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littlebitwriter · 5 years ago
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12 DAYS OF STAR WARS: AN ORIGINAL FANBOY-DRIVEN BLOG SERIES “EPISODE 7: SOME OF MY FAVORITE STAR WARS EU CHARACTERS”
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Here is a list not ranked of some of my favorite characters in the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Both canon and non-canon. *Specifically not gigantically main characters in the mainline saga films and ones who often have extensive material in tie-in media.*
GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN
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In terms of comparing Star Wars characters to archetypes, Grand Admiral Thrawn is the evil Sherlock Holmes of the Star Wars galaxy. The smartest, most tactical, perhaps the most shocking Star Wars villain is Grand Admiral Thrawn. A character with a unique philosophy and battle strategy. He looks at the art of a civilization or planet in the beginning of Heir To The Empire where he can tell/figure out something about that civilization/species through their art which is fascinating. He is a unique, evenly tempered character and listens to what people have to say if they have good ideas. Thrawn is a character who is evil who also has control of his emotions. He isn’t like Kylo Ren who flips out on his macbook pro or is like “Fire Everything!” Thrawn is ultimately the antithesis of that. He is the antithesis to Darth Vader and The Emperor in terms of their philosophy which is perhaps scarier and his philosophy is ‘don’t let your emotions consume you’ and is as level-headed as Darth Vader and is very much all about power. He is an incredibly unique character and villain unlike any other in Star Wars lore. There is so much rich Thrawn material out there, from the various novels by Timothy Zahn such as the original Thrawn Trilogy: Heir To The Empire, Dark Force Rising & The Last Command. As well as the Modern Thrawn Trilogy (set before the events of his appearance in Star Wars Rebels) Thrawn, Alliances and Treason. As well as many, many others I have not mentioned.
MARA JADE
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She is a great character who starts from a very interesting place in Heir To The Empire who started out as a Force-sensitive Imperial assassin who is easily next to Thrawn, both are the best characters Timothy Zahn created in the Star Wars EU lore. She much like a lot of characters I will be talking about, are all truly authentic Star Wars characters. They all have the makings of a great iconic Star Wars character who went on an exciting redemptive journey across the EU from being an Imperial assassin who Palpatine wanted to kill Luke Skywalker to eventually become the wife of Luke Skywalker and mother of Ben Skywalker as a Jedi master. There was a lot that happened to her with the Yuuzhan Vong but everything about that outside of Mara Jade gives me a gigantic headache. Anyway she is a great character who should be integrated into the new canon and should be established to have been married to Luke. (In my personal headcanon Luke was married to Mara Jade in the gap between ROTJ and TFA) She just has one of the best character arcs in all of Star Wars and is a phenomenal character.
QUINLAN VOS
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One of my favorite characters in the Expanded Universe is Quinlan Vos who has stories in the comics that came out during the time of The Clone Wars comics of the early aughts written by John Ostrander. The story of him really goes across The Clone Wars. He is an incredible character who is ultimately an exploration of the ideas of the Dark Side and the Light Side and the temptation of the Dark Side and he kind of rides that line between the two. He is very much a rogue Jedi and kind of goes with the dark and dabbles towards it but ultimately is a good guy. His story in the Clone Wars from Ostrander is very pivotal to his character. Also Dark Disciple is another Quinlan Vos story that is in canon that is based on unused scripts of the modern Clone Wars episodes and that is as well a good Quinlan Vos story with his unique relationship with Asajj Ventress.
CADE SKYWALKER
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The main character of perhaps the best Star Wars things next to The Original Trilogy which is John Ostrander and Jaan Dursuma’s Legacy. He ultimately much like Quinlan Vos is an extremely fascinating character. He is a bounty hunter who has all but rejected his Jedi teachings and he does Death Sticks. He really dances on the line between Dark Side and Light Side in such an interesting way where there are things he does for good but he’s using Dark Side powers and bringing people back from the dead which is quote Palpatine in Revenge of The Sith “Unnatural…” He is a unique conflicted character and he is very much one of my favorite characters in Star Wars lore. He is very much like Quinlan Vos the archetypal John Ostrander dark Jedi character in a good way.
BOBA FETT
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I love Boba Fett. He’s got a bad reputation now especially with a show about a super competent Mandalorian who is ‘The Mandalorian’ who is clearly not Boba Fett because of a thing that he does at the end of the pilot episode that Boba Fett would never do. Boba Fett ultimately unknown to the general mainstream public truly is not just a bum/incompetant clone/bounty hunter that ended up in Sarlacc Pit. He was once a and almost had a solo-novel written by Karen Traviss (A great Star Wars writer who wrote many great books such as The Republic Commando series, also has an obsession with Mandalorians) However in-canon as of now, Boba Fett died in Sarlacc Pit and ultimately the badass Boba Fett pre-1999 EU is now alive and well in The Mandalorian.
DARTH MAUL
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One of the boldest creative decisions in all of Star Wars was in the fourth season of the modern Clone Wars TV Show which was a moment I remember seeing on television for the first time which is… The Return of Darth Maul. This led to what I call the “Maul Resurgence” where after I watched that story arc in television I was obsessed with Maul and had a connection to Maul outside of the double-bladed lightsaber and the spiky horns I was fascinated by his rivalry, connection and hatred of Obi-Wan Kenobi. I read the novel by Michael Reaves that was a prequel to Phantom Menace which was Shadow Hunter. Which established his backstory as being raised by Palpatine and was inflicted with Sith tattoos and was originally a Zabrak (which changed due to The Clone Wars he is now a…Dathomir. He is ultimately an assassin told he’s a Sith, not really a proper Dark Force user, he was a mad dog on Palpatine’s leash that became used everywhere. He is very much the prequel’s Boba Fett where he looks super cool and most of the public doesn't know he survived after his initial cheap death where they got a comeback and more development. In The Clone Wars He spent years in shame and squalor and when he gets power back and gains composure you see he learned the lessons Sidious/Palpatine taught him and that’s what makes his duel with him, Oppress and Sidious/Palpatine so impressive is that you can make the argument that Maul was legitimately a threat to Sidious. He is capable of being a thrilling and terrifying threat. As a Maul fan My favorite scene in Solo: A Star Wars Story is when you learn he is the head of the criminal organization of Crimson Dawn and the idea of him being a crime lord is genius. His story is ultimately perfectly wrapped up in Rebels in perhaps my favorite and in my opinion the most epic lightsaber fight in all of Star Wars which is his last battle with Kenobi. It’s an old-school epic samurai fight with such ambience and power and perfectly ends Maul story and captures the evolution of Obi-Wan and Maul’s relationship.
THE CHILD
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The social media phenomenon himself gets what he / she deserves and is perhaps my favorite youngling in Star Wars lore (sorry, no disrespect to characters like Ashoka). It may seem like I’m hopping on the bandwagon but I really am not, outside of Yoda and Yaddle I believe, there is one other character who is of the same species who fans often mention and even casual or non fans mention a lot who is The Child. There is ultimately I think going to be a solid reason as to why he is such a phenomenon. Much like these other characters this is something about The Child that is distinctive and unique in that all of these characters are wholly their own and go on their own journeys and I’m sure The Child will be one of them. He is young for his species only fifty years old and has a long, long life ahead of him in a galaxy far, far away…
-LilBitWriter (12/19/19)
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takerfoxx · 5 years ago
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The Rise of Skywalker Review
All right, new year, new decade, and all that jazz. Now, I do have a few things I wanna say about reflecting back on where I was and where I am now, personal growth and all that, but first, I have some major I need to get out of my system, something that’s been eating at my mind all week, something I really need to sit down and dissect to properly suss out my thoughts and feelings.
And that thing is this: what the fuck happened with The Rise of Skywalker?!
Now, just for the record, I’m that lapsed Star Wars fan who grew up with the original trilogy, who had a full shelf of EU novels that I read and reread over and over until their covers fell off, who spent untold hours replaying both of the Knights of the Old Republic games, was majorly let down by the prequels and became disillusioned by the franchise as a result, who reacted to the news of Disney’s acquisition of the franchise with cyncisim, who thought that The Force Awakens was decent but otherwise substance-less knock-off of A New Hope, who was bored to tears by Rogue One, who skipped Solo entirely, but who actually was surprising engaged and receptive to the subversive themes and new places that The Last Jedi took the franchise even if it was very flawed structurally and thought that it was the best Star Wars film since Return of the Jedi.
And hell, let’s just state my reasons right now. The Last Jedi came out at a time when I was just so tired of people trying to recapture lightning in a bottle with once-great franchises that had lived on long past their expiration date with trying to pass off clearly inferior knock-offs to their original installments as sequels. I mean, it can work, sure. Both of the Creed movies followed the Rocky movie formula pretty closely but were still great, and even if it didn’t click with me the way it did with other people, Fury Road was a fantastic film. The thing is though, both of those movies were still being handled by their original creators, specifically Sylvester Stallone and George Miller, while my beloved Star Wars and Jurassic Park had become divorced from their daddies and were now being handled by people who just. Didn’t. Get it.
And then The Last Jedi came along and was all, “Shut up about bloodlines, they don’t matter! Your main character is not the descendant of some already established character, she’s just some rando Force-sensitive that caught up in all this and decided to answer the call, so let her stand on her own! The Jedi were a well-meaning but immensely flawed, so leave them in the annuals of history and stop venerating them! Same with your heroes! Also, your Resistance has its hands dirty too because it’s a fucking war and war makes monsters of everybody while the little people suffer, sometimes you need to listen to the people in charge instead of being a hothead bucking the system, and the intimidating villains in black are in truth a bunch of insecure man-children playing dress-up to make them feel better about themselves and are pretty pathetic until they take that last step and become actual threats because that is how fascism works!”
Do you realize just how refreshing all of that was? Oh my God, is the Star Wars franchise actually…moving forward? Are we getting new stuff that’s not hampered by George Lucas’s unbearably hackneyed writing?
Yes, the whole Finn and Rose sidequest contributed nothing to the plot and ultimately went nowhere. Yes, the whole Poe vs. Admiral Holdo had the looming question of “Why doesn’t she just tell Poe that she’s got a plan instead of doing everything to set the team rebel off?” which undercut its message. These are major problems, I acknowledge that. The thing is, they are easily fixable problems that would have been smoothed out by a few more script treatments. It sucks that they weren’t, but as for me, they were roadbumps, not dealbreakers. I noticed them, I saw that they were major problems, but they didn’t make me angry, and I liked what they were trying to say enough for me to still be with it. And I felt that all the Luke/Rey/Kylo stuff was gangbusters (yes, I loved cranky, disillusioned old Luke. I know Mark Hamill didn’t care for it, but that’s fine, it worked great for me), so I ultimately left feeling pleasantly surprised. As if in, it was a flawed but very refreshing experience, one that said things I had been feeling for a long time and took things to interesting places that I actually wanted to see play out. I even got choked up when Luke let himself fade away when feeling absolutely nothing when Han died the previous film.
Unfortunately, that seemed to be a minority opinion, with many other Star Wars fan outright detesting it, sometimes to a pretty gross level (you know what I’m talking about). So when JJ Abrams was brought back on board to try to salvage things for the final installment, my reaction was, “I’m going to hate it, aren’t I?”
Still, I knew I was going to see it anyway, just to say that I did. And…welp.
Dafuq was that?
All right, all right, now before I continue, I need to acknowledge something. First of all, I have nothing against JJ Abrams as a person or even really as an artist. From all accounts he’s a cool guy who’s been taking all the backlash he’s been getting with a commendable amount of maturity, and he was placed in a very unenviable position by taking the reins in the midst of a very volatile situation. Plus, he had set a ton of things up in TFA that TLJ burned to the ground. Granted, it was a bonfire that I thoroughly enjoyed, but as the person watching his ideas just get cut off, that must have been frustrating watch. Like, what was he supposed to work with once he was brought back on after Colin Trevorrow had gotten the boot? And on a side-note, they really need to stop bringing Colin Trevorrow into big blockbuster franchises.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, we had the tragic passing of Carrie Fisher, which, in addition to being a terrible loss in general because she was a wonderful person that we’re all the poorer without, this movie was supposed to in some way revolve thematically around her, much like the TFA did with Han and TLJ did with Luke. But with her gone, they were just left with footage and recorded dialogue from deleted scenes from the first two films, which is next to nothing to go off of. Now there’s a debate to be had about whether or not it would be appropriate to CG her face onto a different actress, and I do get them feeling that doing so would be ghoulish…but they kinda already did that to bring Tarkin back in Rogue One, so…
Even so, that really sucks, and as awkward as the Princess Leia scenes are as a result, it isn’t their fault, so I’ll leave it at that.
And finally, it must also be acknowledged that a lot of the things I’m going to criticize them for were present in the original trilogy, and were just as awkward then. The OG movies weren’t perfect, folks. We’ve come to accept these flaws, but they were just as clumsy asspulls back then as they are now.
All right, now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, I actually want to start off on a positive note, specifically talking about the stuff I liked.
Let’s begin with the thing that I consider to not only be good, but actually kind of great: the relationship between Rey and Kylo Ren. Their weird Force-link in TLJ was one of the few new ideas that everyone seemed to like, especially since neither of them could really control it and were equally befuddled by it. It’s just a cool idea, a new aspect of the Force we haven’t seen before, and it’s slowly built upon, actually affects both the plot and the characters, and leads to some great scenes between the two of them.
And you know what? I was actually surprised by how much I liked these two together. After the wooden pile of bleh that was Anakin and Padme, I was bracing myself for more of the same. But as it turns out, Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver have an incredible amount of chemistry, and Adam especially was able to pull off the whole tortured bad boy who’s trying to be a villain but feels endlessly conflicted in a way that Hayden Christensen never could (though to be fair, Adam had way more to work with). So giving them that weird link where they’re forced to interact at different points despite being galaxies across from one another is a fantastic idea.
And I was happy to see that not only was this idea not walked back on, they actually built on it. Without giving too much away, there’s an amazing scene where they actually have a lightsaber fight despite being in two completely different locations and not really knowing where the other is, with the camera jumping back and forth from each other’s perspective and items from each other’s surroundings keep getting thrown into the other’s area and it’s honestly really great.
There were also a lot of visuals that were pretty great. The whole indoor lightning of the Sith Planet was neat, as was the flying stormtroopers, and that festival was pretty cool, and…
Actually, come to think of it, most of the scenes in this movie are, when viewed in isolation, pretty good, and could have worked if they had been buffeted by, you know, proper buildup, actual pacing, and taking the time to let events have weight.
But that leads us to this movie’s biggest failing, the problem that bring the whole thing crashing down. And that is it will just. Not. Slow. Down!
Seriously, don’t take a bathroom break, because if you do, you’ll come back to find everybody on a totally different planet doing something completely different, and the plot point you left on is completely in the rearview. It’s exhausting how quickly this movie jumps around from place to place, where we get a look at a setting and characters that might have been interesting if we got to spend actual time with them, only to drop it and we’re onto the next part. This isn’t a story, it’s a list of bullet points! It’s a three hour highlight reel of a whole-ass fourth trilogy, one that could have been cool to watch if they had chopped it up into three parts and fleshed them out into three movies. Hell, I’ll tell you where to end each one: Rey vs. Kylo on the Star Destroyer, Rey vs. Kylo on the wreckage of the Death Star, and the actual finale. Expand on the stuff in between, flesh things out with actual, you know, character development and consequences instead of zipping around, trying to come up with as many places as they can to cram into Star Tours’ randomizer.
And that’s what this basically is, an overly long Star Tours ride! Now I like Star Tours just fine, because it visits places that hold actual meaning due to being properly developed in actual movies, but these places just left me feeling hollow. And while we’re on the subject, did we really need another desert planet, ice planet, and forest planet combo? Spice things the fuck up! Say what you want about the prequels, but at least they tried to take us to cool new places.
And you know what? I’m going to say it. This movie is actually worse than the prequels. Not because it’s nearly as clumsily written and woodenly acted, or because it’s dragged down by dumb attempts at comedy; it’s none of those things. But at least the prequels were trying! George Lucas might be totally inept as a writer and should not have been given free reign, but there were attempts at things like proper plot and character development, pacing, plot twists, mystery, building things up and paying them off. Just go read the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. It’s fantastic! Same plot, same events happening, same conversations, but the dialogue is reworked to give the characters actual personality and it’s narratively told in an awesome and creative way and it’s overall just a great book. So George Lucas’s movies had the framework of a good story, he just wasn’t the right person to tell it.
In contrast, this movie has actual good acting, and the dialogue isn’t anywhere nearly as corny, but it’s just so unbelievably basic. It’s surface level writing, with barely a hint of cleverness and very little personality other than what the actors are about to wrangle out through their performances. But structure-wise, other than to expand it into a full trilogy, I don’t see how anyone can turn this mess into an engaging, single-movie narrative. So much happens, and it just feels so empty.
And…okay. Let’s address the Bantha in the room. Let’s talk about Palpatine.
Why is he back? Why? Just…why? He doesn’t need to be back! He doesn’t! It’s stupid, it’s hackneyed, it’s not even explained! I mean, there’s an offhand mention of cloning, so yeah, it’s feasible, it just makes no narrative sense! Hell, the fucking opening title crawl just plain says, “Yeah, he’s back. No reason, he just is” and goes on from that. And apparently he’s been behind everything that’s happened, like Snoke and Vader’s voice in Kylo Ren’s head and stuff, because things just can’t happen without being masterminded by someone I guess.
Really? This is the best they could come up with? I know TLJ cut off a lot of their plot branches, but goddamn it, this is the best you’ve got? Resurrect Palpatine? They do remember that the first two movies from the trilogy barely had the emperor as a presence, right? Vader carried them all just fine! Just run with that! Have Kylo Ren be the main antagonist! Have this be able his ascension to actual mega threat instead of Darth Vader cosplayer. If you want Ian McDiarmid to ham it up in the robes one last time (and hey, who wouldn’t?) just give him a cameo! Like, a holographic message to any potential successors Kylo Ren is looking for. Have him be the devil on Kylo’s shoulder in a is-he-real-is-he-just-a-hallucination sort of way. Make him something tempting Kylo Ren to fully embrace being the new Sith Lord, something Kylo has to overcome if he wants redemption. But don’t bring him fucking back! That’s just so, so stupid.
And Rey being Palpatine’s granddaughter kind of pisses me off. Her being revealed as a nobody from nowhere in the last film was great! I loved that idea! But no, let’s just retcon that whole business because we’re trying to apologize for the only one of these movies that had any balls and everybody has to be the descendant of someone important. Even fucking Lando gets a long-lost daughter in this! No, I’m not joking, he totally does.
Now, could Rey’s Sith heritage have worked? Sure! In of itself, it’s a rad idea, one that could have been used to explore all sorts of awesome themes…if that had been their plan from the beginning instead of a cheap attempt to replicate Empire’s big plot twist. But let’s face it: they threw it in as a desperate attempt to placate the fans. There never was any sort of plan. Abrams made the first movie with the sole intention of trying to recapture that nostalgic feel and fucked off, Rian Johnson took over with no notes and decided to do what he wanted, Trevorrow got fired, and Abrams got brought back for PR reasons because hey, people liked his movie, and he had to scramble to piece something together! Damn it, Disney! You literally have infinite resources! Hire someone with actual creative talent!
Oh wait, you did, and people hated it. Fuck.
So yeah. Rey’s parentage? Total waste, raises more questions than it answers. Chewie’s apparent death? Total waste, because he was actually on another ship! Though you could Force sense these things, Rey! Dark Side Rey in the trailer? Total waste, just a Force vision. That whole bit with C-3PO potentially sacrificing his entire identity? Total waste. No one seems to care, he gets no say, and after his memory gets wiped it’s treated as comic relief. Yeah, one last look at your friends indeed, Threepio. Some friends you have there. Oh, except Artoo’s got your memory backed up, so it doesn’t matter, just like everything else.
Oh yeah, and fuck Chewie’s medal! Who was really asking for that?
What a mess. What a disjointed, soulless, pandering mess. What a waste of potential, squandered on nothing. Bleh.
Oh well, at least we still have the Mandalorian. I’ve started watching that and it’s really cool so far.
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derkastellan · 5 years ago
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BattleTech: The Star League - an exercise in advanced Fridge Logic
“I’ve considered “BattleTech: Star League” an all-time great sourcebook. It tells the origin story of the whole BattleTech universe up until the First Succession War. It also explains the full story behind General Kerensky’s Exodus, a major plot point repeatedly referred to in books, finally detailed. 
Back then when I got the book originally in the 90s I might not have really known that this was a setup to follow up with the Clan Invasion era of BattleTech. Or maybe I personally got it after that had already been launched. When it was released in 1988 the timeline shifted into the Fourth Succession War and there had been release referring to that mythical Star League.
Some books don’t fare as well when being re-read decades later, and “The Star League” is not an exception, though I have to admit I might be applying impossibly high standards...
Don’t think about it too hard
One talks of “fridge logic” when you set a piece of fiction aside, go to the fridge, and realize that the inner logic of the work does not quite add up. The point of fridge logic is that it is sufficiently convincing to keep you absorbing a piece of fiction but you might end up taking it apart later.
I’ve also been re-reading the Warrior Trilogy by Michael A. Stackpole and reminiscing about “Heir of the Dragon”. While Stackpole’s novels about the Fourth Succession War lay out a template for other BT novels, they also skew the setting heavily, completely upend its balance. “Heir to the Dragon” contrives as hard as it can to construe a War of 3039 that restore the setting balance long enough for it to persist until the events of 3050 - the Clan Invasion. In hindsight that book is full of fridge logic it seems unfair to call out “The Star League” but here I am.
It’s any author’s prerogative to time situations to maximize drama, to have events happen in a convenient way, to maximize the impact of a work of fiction. If there is too much of that with events happening all-too-convenient, we talk about a “deus ex machina.” The authors of “The Star League” (SL from now on) were trying hard to avoid that and to have a string of logical-seeming events follow like pearls on a chain. But when you look too close, it all comes apart...
Setting and world design can often become subservient to requirements of the plot. As I said, SL tries hard to avoid that, but it doesn’t quite accomplish it. The events I will focus on are the Periphery Uprising and the Amaris Coup (also names of chapter headings). These are part of the climax and are supposed to explain the downfall of the marvelous Star League itself.
What is needed?
The SL was the most advanced golden age of mankind, but the standard setting of BT in the 80s was an era of technological decline and petty scuffles. The challenge for the authors was to explain not only the rise of such a realm but describe its fall in a way that the downward spiral seems inevitable.
The original realm at the heart of human-occupied space, the Terran Hegemony, had to vanish through the course of events because the map of 3025 existed long before the map of 2781. For this to happen it was not enough to let a line of royal succession end, a whole realm had to collapse. Also, the end of the SL had already been blamed vaguely on treachery and so the story of that treachery had to be set up.
Furthermore, the fall from glory was a great opportunity for memorable drama, the end of a golden age, after all, and the preclude for centuries of war. 
There was only one problem: the SLDF.
The Star League Defense Forces were not only the most advanced but also basically the biggest fighting force in the BT history, led by brilliant General Kerensky. You cannot set that up and then hand-wave your way out of that setup. But the authors kind of did.
The basic plot points of the Periphery Uprising
The Periphery realms are exploited by the Inner Sphere lords and businesses for their own gain, resentment builds.
The ruler of the SL dies, orphaning his son. General Kerensky is named Protector of the Realm and the young lord his ward, but circumstances pretty much prevent the general from executing any of these duties.
Stefan Amaris, the leader of the Rim Worlds, conspires with other Periphery governments to ultimately achieve independence.
He befriends the future lord of the SL, a lonely minor and orphan. He proceeds to manipulate the young lord and gain influence over him.
A tense stand-off between the SLDF and Periphery rebels develops, including terrorism against the SLDF.
Suddenly 50 full mech divisions of fighting force appear that have been secretly built up and end up destroying almost as many divisions of SLDF forces scattered throughout the periphery. (There’s roughly 100 divisions of the SLDF in the periphery according to the book.) Where they cannot defeat the SLDF directly they drop prohibited nuclear bombs and move on.
[EDIT: To put this number into context: “ At its peak prior to the Clan Invasion, the AFFC represented the largest single military since General Aleksandr Kerensky took most of the Star League Defense Force beyond the Periphery, with over 268 BattleMech regiments.” (from: sarna.net) In the BT universe, according to the same source, a division is made up of 3 brigades, and a brigade of 3 regiments. Even if we assume that only 1 out of 3 brigades in a division is a mech brigade - after all a tank division does not consist entirely of tanks! - we still might be contemplating 150 mech regiments - a bit less than the Draconis Combine at the beginning of the First Succession War. Supposedly the Draconis Combine was involved in providing those mechs. Would they supply as many as they have themselves out of pure greed??]
Meanwhile Amaris’ Rim Worlds are suspiciously peaceful and the young lord calls in Amaris’ troups to protect the Hegemony as more and more troops of the SLDF leave it to fight in the Periphery Uprising.
In the final act, Amaris personally murders the young ruler, abusing his trust, and lets his troops enact a coup, almost completely overcoming the unsuspecting local forces (which they outnumber 2:1).
These are the events that earned Amaris the “honorific” the Ursurper and the events that follow see the destruction of the Hegemony in the liberation campaign, ending with a drive for freeing Earth itself and killing Amaris.
Why it doesn’t work
The bigger a conspiracy is the more likely it is that somebody talks. Supposedly the conspiracy involved...
the governments of all four periphery realms,
the members of dozens of independence movements spread over 1,000s of light years,
the militias and their many thousands or more members,
the personnel of half a dozen major merchant companies,
most of the military of the Rim worlds,
the members of those 50 divisions, and
their mercenary company trainers.
We are supposed to believe that the SL intelligence services were not capable to undermine a conspiracy numbering in the millions, that nobody went rogue, nobody talked. None of the Rim Worlds soldiers ever got drunk and said too much to a local during a night of debauchery of any kind. Nobody ever went to the authorities.
Not only that, all these people either enlisted in the plan or kept quiet for money. 
The SL is concerned where certain shipments of battlemechs are going but cannot squeeze it out of a single crew member even though they know who handled the shipments.
Amaris explicitly betrays a major independence movement but everyone else sticks to the plan.
There is enough black money moved around to fund not only the independence movements, but 50 divisions of battlemechs and more. The equipment is bought, so is the silence of those transporting it, and finally these people are trained in the Deep Periphery for years - which means building bases to host them on unsettled worlds beyond realm borders, requiring a constant stream of resources to sustain them.
Nothing of that left a trail for SL intelligence to follow?
We’re talking sums of money probably equivalent to the budget for the SLDF because these troops have to be created anew. In other words, vast amounts. How do the governments change their spending unnoticed? The SL does not do basic accounting? [EDIT: According to sarna.net the SLDF at its peak fielded 125 battle mech divisions. This is the result of 1 1/2 centuries of military spending. The Periphery governments are supposedly capable of creating 40% of that force on-the-fly with a training program hosted by a few mercenary units. How can you effectively train so many soldiers, especially to fight as large formations, without having an organization to match the SLDF or a major house military? It’s doubtful any Inner Sphere lord could match this feet - because they never have. If this was easily possible, why not double your own forces “in secret?”]
And here’s the worst part: It is established that the periphery is actually being exploited by the Inner Sphere for their own gain, so this major spending comes while essentially massive amounts of riches are funneled away anyway, in times of exploitation.
Does this really make sense? Do people take part in a scheme that takes a decade to unfold, including five years of separation from loved ones for many of them? Can the personnel of 50 divisions really be hidden in the ranks of staff of half a dozen transporting companies? 
(Also: Take for example the American War of Independence. Roughly a third of the people of the Colonies were Loyalists. Even in occupied populaces resenting their occupiers you would have some people actively collaborating with their oppressors. Even more - many periphery worlds owe the SL for either being settle-able or for making their lives a lot easier through things like cheap water purification technology...)
More fridge logic
Other facts that have been established:
The SL has entrenched its troops in fortifications in the periphery.
The SL doctrine for fortifications is to enable troops to strike from hidden exits, not to lock itself in or simply concentrate its forces.
The prime fortifications of the SL, “Castles Brian”, are under mountains and underground with many tunnels and hidden exits.
So, can the rebels simply drop nuclear bombs on these guys “and move on?” 
They can’t. These devices don’t raze mountains. Also you need a delivery vehicle. These fortifications should have had anti-air defenses, but even if not or if ineffective against the chosen delivery vehicle, they are still hidden behind tons and tons of rock.
The popular image of nuclear bombs is of an all-destroying force but this is not accurate. Militarily the stopping power of a nuclear bomb has been established and for use against armored forces like tank divisions the actual kill zone is rather small - like a third of a mile in diameter if I remember correctly. Take then into account that battlemechs are better armored and secured also against radiation than modern armored vehicles and they can even be made to operate in the vacuum of space. (And space and radiation go together...)
Furthermore, given that terrorist strikes have been an tactic mentioned within the same pages I’m covering here, including suicide attacks and a localized nuclear strike, which SLDF commander would not spread his or her forces to the best of their abilities to avoid vulnerability?
Thinking this further, the SLDF is operating in enemy territory - these people are bombing their own land. So they just blow up a few megatons next to their own population centers? Ignore the fallout on civilians that are entirely their own population?? 
It quickly becomes clear that this “tactic” is more a plot device than anything. These rebels are so unscrupulous and amoral, they can resort to things the SLDF wouldn’t do and therefore best it easily. This supposedly explains away all the advantages the SLDF enjoy - their stockpiles, technological superiority, fortifications, advanced training and doctrines, even the many years of actual combat experience.
The same plot device is used in how Amaris’ Rim Worlds troops eliminate resistance in the Hegemony. Now there’s less inhibition to use such weaponry given these are not their home worlds. But the other conditions still apply - especially since many of the Hegemony worlds explicitly have Castles Brian, and many several. 
And regular plot convenience
Other things like the automated defense systems of the Hegemony were simple plot convenience, there to be ironically used against those that hoped to enjoy their protection. This helps explain the bloody and protracted campaign need to win the Hegemony back.
The Amaris Coup’s basic design depends on many things - including...
the greed of the Inner Sphere lords completely clouding their self-preservation. After all they sell materiel to staff 50 mech divisions when originally the presence of a single mech battalion in one periphery realm was almost a casus belli. 
the continued cooperation and secrecy of all participants during the decade where Amaris unfolds his plan to win Richard Cameron’s confidence. What was the backup plan if that wasn’t possible?
the complete lack of anyone else caring even a little about Richard Cameron, like Kerensky doing his actual duties during this time period, especially given the fact that he’s supposedly meticulous, dutiful, and virtuous without measure.
the administration of the Hegemony not developing the least of initiative.
that the Kerensky reforms made the SLDF so dependent on his leadership he couldn’t delegate this duty to anyone else. What kind of genius makes themselves unreplaceable and traps themselves in a situation where they cannot serve their duties?
that nobody notices Amaris deploys double as many soldiers to the Hegemony than he originally stated. So nobody noticed the extra beds, extra meals, extra vehicles, extra battlemechs? Did half of them hide in the toilets and get their half-meals shoved under the door? These troops were housed on Hegemony territory and supplied by the Hegemony administration. How do you pull off such a sleight-of-hand?
We’re actually closing in on “deus ex machina” quick. Yes, such big plots are often contrived. But there is a measure, and if you look closely, this book does not come together as well as it seems.
Conclusion
Just as Kerensky’s Exodus, it’s best not to think too hard about how all of this is even possible or all unravels. It’s both disillusioning and concerning that this is still one of the best setting books I have ever read. For all its flaws it creates really a lot of good lore and has an engaging plot.
This is kind of what to expect when the broad strokes are already made and somebody has to fill them in. Kerensky’s Exodus or the sudden fall of the SL were outlined, and filling in the gaps makes kind of clear that this was a tall order. The book mostly succeeds, even. It just has to perform a few sleights of hand too many to get there...
[PS and foot note: I’m currently reading also bits of “BattleTech: Explorer Corps”. When reading about ComStar Primus Simms’ visions I noticed that in the BT universe if somebody has visions they are usually accurate and plot-relevant, linking plot elements without apparent cause. In “The Star League” one Cameron predicts the end of the Terran Hegemony, for example. Such visions usually revolve around elements whose meaning is clear in hindsight, like Simms’ seeing “visions of monsters” who really are the symbols or emblems of invading Clans. If we add Stackpole’s foray into a mystical duel between mech warriors defying scientific explanation (in the Warrior Trilogy between Yorinaga Kurita and both Kell brothers, Patrick and Morgan). From this we can conclude that deep down the BT universe has a supernatural element.]
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sweusource · 6 years ago
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ESSENTIAL STAR WARS LEGENDS/EXPANDED UNIVERSE BOOKS. 
Many people have asked for that, so I decided to do a list with the essential novels and comics of the EU/Legends. This is my personal opinion and I have a very bad memory too so I guess, I haven’t included many others, so if you think there’s a book or any other EU content that should be on this list too, please, just let me know and I’ll put them on this list.
Obviously, I haven’t read all the books of the EU and tbh I’m not a fan of anything related to Rise of the Empire era, prequels, and The Clone Wars. All my favorite content is from Rebellion Era and post-ROTJ.
Anyway, here it’s my list of the most important novels and comics of the EU.
The EU books are divided into different eras.
Before the Republic Era - 37,000 BBY to 25,000 BBY
Old Republic Era - 5000 BBY (years before the Battle of Yavin to 1000 BBY)
Rise of the Empire Era - 1000 BBY to 22 BBY
Clone Wars Era - 22 BBY to 19 BBY
Imperial Era - 19 BBY to 0 BBY
Rebellion Era - 0 BBY to 4 ABY (4 years after the Battle of Yavin)
New Republic Era - 5.5 ABY to 22 ABY
New Jedi Order Era - 24.5 ABY to 36 ABY
Legacy Era - 40 ABY to 139 ABY
BEFORE THE REPUBLIC ERA
Dawn of the Jedi: Into The Void   
Dawn of the Jedi 
Force Storm
The Prisoner of Bogan
Force War
OLD REPUBLIC ERA
Tales of the Jedi
The Golden Age of the Sith
The Fall of the Sith Empire
Ulic Qel-Droma and the Beast Wars of Onderon
The Saga of Nomi Sunrider
The Freedon Nadd Uprising
Dark Lords of the Sith
The Sith War
Redemption 
Crosscurrent 
 Knights of The Old Republic (Comics)
Crossroads
Commencement
Flashpoint 
Reunion
Days of Fear
Nights of Anger
Daze of Hate
Knights of Suffering
Vector
Exalted
Turnabout
Vindication
Prophet Motive
Faithful Execution
Dueling Ambitions
Masks
The Reaping
Destroyer
Demon 
War
The Old Republic Novels
Fatal Alliance
Deceived
Revan 
Annihilation
Knight Errant
Aflame
Deluge
Escape
Darth Bane Trilogy
Path of Destruction 
Rule of Two
Dynasty of Evil 
RISE OF THE EMPIRE ERA
Legacy of the Jedi 
Part 1 (chapter 1 onward) takes place during 89 BBY. 
Part 2, "Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn" (chapter 7 onward) takes place during 76 BBY. 
Part 3 "Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi" (chapter 14 onward) takes place during 44 BBY. 
Part 4 "Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker" (chapter 20 onward) takes place during 22 BBY
Darth Plagueis 
 Jedi: The Dark Side
Jedi Apprentice
The Rising Force
The Dark Rival
The Hidden Past
The Mark of the Crown
The Defenders of the Dead
The Uncertain Path
The Captive Temple
The Day of Reckoning
The Fight for Truth
The Shattered Peace
The Deadly Hunter
The Evil Experiment
The Dangerous Rescue
The Ties That Bind
The Death of Hope
The Call to Vengeance
The Only Witness
The Threat Within
Secrets of the Jedi
The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
Cloak of Deception
Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Novelization)
Republic
Prelude to Rebellion
Vow of Justice
Outlander
Emissaries to Malastare
Twilight
Infinity's End
The Hunt for Aurra Sing
Darkness
The Stark Hyperspace War
The Devaronian Version
Rite of Passage
Honor and Duty
The New Face of War
The Battle of Jabiim
Show of Force
Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Trackdown
Siege of Saleucami
Into the Unknown
Hidden Enemy
Jedi Quest
Path to Truth
The Way of the Apprentice
The Trail of the Jedi
The Dangerous Games
The Master of Disguise
The School of Fear
The Shadow Trap
The Moment of Truth
The Changing of the Guard
The False Peace
The Final Showdown
Outbound Flight 
The Approaching Storm
Episode II Attack of the Clones (Novelization)
The Cestus Deception
Jedi Trial
Episode III Revenge of the Sith  (Novelization)
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Kenobi
The Cestus Deception
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Coruscant Nights
Mace Windu
Shaak Ti 
Aayla Secura  
Count Dooku 
Yoda
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Jedi 
Jedi Twilight
Street of Shadows
Patterns of Force
 The Last of the Jedi
The Desperate Mission
Dark Warning
Underworld
Death on Naboo
A Tangled Web
Return of the Dark Side
Secret Weapon
Against the Empire
Master of Deception
Reckoning
The Last Jedi 
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
A New Hope: The Life of Luke Skywalker
Rebel Dawn
Death Star
The Han Solo Adventures
Han Solo at Stars' End
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Dark Forces (Novellas)  
Soldier for the Empire
Rebel Agent
Jedi Knight
Han Solo Trilogy
The Paradise Snare 
The Hutt Gambit
Rebel Dawn
The Lando Calrissian Adventures
Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka
REBELLION ERA
Episode IV: A New Hope  (Novelization)
The Fight for Justice
Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina
Scoundrels
Rebel Force 
Target
Hostage
Renegade
Firefight
Trapped
Uprising 
Allegiance 
Choices of One
Empire and Rebellion
Razor's Edge
Honor Among Thieves
Splinter of the Mind's Eye (The first Expanded Universe novel)
Episode V The Empire Strikes Back (Novelization)
Shadows of the Empire 
Mara Jade. By The Emperor’s Hand
Mara Jade: A Night on the Town
Tales from Jabba's Palace
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (Novelization)
The Truce at Bakura
NEW REPUBLIC ERA
Jedi Prince
The Glove of Darth Vader
The Lost City of the Jedi
Zorba the Hutt's Revenge
Mission from Mount Yoda
Queen of the Empire
Prophets of the Dark Side
Tales from the New Republic
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor 
X-Wing (Different eras and timelines) (from 6.5 ABY to 44  ABY)
Rogue Squadron
Wedge's Gamble
The Krytos Trap
The Bacta War
Wraith Squadron
Iron Fist
Solo Command
Isard's Revenge
Starfighters of Adumar
Mercy Kill
The Courtship of Princess Leia
Tatooine Ghost 
The Thrawn Trilogy (Novels and Comics)
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising 
The Last Command
Dark Empire 
Vol I
Vol II
Empire’s End 
The Jedi Academy Trilogy 
Jedi Search
Dark Apprentice
Champions of the Force
I, Jedi
Children of the Jedi
Darksaber 
Planet of Twilight 
The Crystal Star
The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy 
Before the Storm
Shield of Lies
Tyrant’s Test
The New Rebellion
The Corellian Trilogy 
Ambush at Corellia
Assault at Selonia
Showdown at Centerpoint
The Hand of Thrawn Duology
Specter of the Past
Vision of the Future
Union 
Judge's Call (Short Story)
Scourge
Junior Jedi Knights
The Golden Globe
Lyric's World
Promises
Anakin's Quest
Vader's Fortress
Kenobi's Blade
Survivor’s Quest
Young Jedi Knights
The Rise of the Shadow Academy
Heirs of the Force 
Shadow Academy
The Lost Ones
Lightsabers
Darkest Knight
Jedi Under Siege
The Fall of the Diversity Alliance
Shards of Alderaan
Diversity Alliance
Delusions of Grandeur
Jedi Bounty
The Emperor's Plague
Under Black Sun
Return to Ord Mantell
Trouble on Cloud City
Crisis at Crystal Reef
NEW JEDI ORDER ERA
The New Jedi Order (NJO)
Vector Prime
Dark Tide Duology (Onslaught and Ruin)
Agents of Chaos Duology (Hero's Trial and Jedi Eclipse)
Balance Point 
Recovery
Edge of Victory Duology (Conquest and Rebirth)
Star by Star
Dark Journey
Enemy Lines Duology (Rebel Dream and Rebel Stand)
Traitor
Destiny's Way
Ylesia
Force Heretic Trilogy (Remnant, Refugee and Reunion)
The Final Prophecy
The Unifying Force 
Dark Nest
The Joiner King
The Unseen Queen
The Swarm War
LEGACY ERA
Legacy Of The Force
Betrayal
Bloodlines
Tempest
Exile
Sacrifice
Inferno 
Fury 
Revelation 
Invincible
Fate Of The Jedi
Outcast 
Omen
Abyss 
Backlash
Allies
Vortex
Conviction
Ascension
Apocalypse
Crucible
Legacy (Comics) (50 Issues/10 Volumes)
Book I
Book II
Book III
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cromulentbookreview · 6 years ago
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It Can Definitely Happen Here
Or: Internment by Samira Ahmed!
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This will be a likely be a short review for the following reasons:
I’m lazy.
I only just finished the book
I had the ARC for months and only just got to it, see #1.
No one reads this, this blog is literally just me screaming into the black void that is the internet letting it know that I exist.
The book is out today and, once again, I have missed the point of an “advanced review.” Advanced meaning “in advance of the publication date.” Meaning “probably not the day the damn book comes out.”
Note: It has come to my attention that the book actually comes out on March 19, 2019. So...I actually got this review done on time. Ha. Aha. Ahahahahahahahaha.
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Also, this book takes on a whole new meaning after the recent terrorist attack in New Zealand. I went back and reread some scenes and cried even more than I did already.
And now back to my regularly scheduled review.
Layla Amin is a regular American teenager. Only the America she lives in is under the control of a bunch of racist pieces of shit. Ahmed never gives names to these assholes in power - you can guess - but they don’t even really need names. It’s depressingly easy to imagine just who these people are. Anyway, the people in power are doing whatever they want. So they’ve declared all Muslims enemies of the state. Because of course they would. 
Unfortunately, Layla comes from a Desi family who are Muslim. They’re not super religious or anything, but that doesn’t matter. Rather than checking the “no religion” box on the census, the Amins refused to hide who they are, so they put down that they are Muslim. And now the Administration is using that data to round up all Muslim Americans and put them in internment camps.
Sound familiar? Yeah, because we’ve totally done it before. The Internment of Japanese Americans during WWII might feel like distant history, but it seriously wasn’t that long ago. Like, for serious serious not that long ago. 77 years is not that long ago in the grand scheme of things. People who were in those internment camps are still around. Like American Treasure and Mr. Sulu, George Takei who was just a kid when he was interred, first in Rohwer, Arkansas then at Tule Lake in California. As you can imagine, the internment camps for Japanese Americans were put in places that were less than hospitable. Like the middle of the desert. Because humanity can really be the worst sometimes.
Anyway, back to Layla. One night she breaks the nation-wide curfew to go and see her boyfriend, David, as teens are wont to do. Soon after she gets home, though, men with guns show up at her house and give her and her parents 10 minutes to pack up what they need. They’re taken to L.A. where they’re put on a train then put onto buses to a camp called Mobius somewhere outside Independence, California. Just a hop, skip and a jump from Manzanar! So...the desert. And no, this Mobius isn’t anything like the famous Möbius strip, either. This is a cross between a FEMA camp like you’d see after a natural disaster combined with a prison camp. Sure, they have food, water, and adequate shelter. It’s still a goddamn prison camp, though, run by the sadistic Director, whose actual name is never given but you can really picture who this guy looks like. Layla’s parents are, naturally, terrified by the whole situation and just want to keep their heads down and survive. Not Layla, though. She is going to resist, goddamn it! Plus, there’s a guard who is totally on her side. Or is he?
So, Internment - overall I thought the book was OK, but then again, I’m pretty biased towards stories that feature magic and dragons and steampunk. 15-minutes-into-the-future dystopias are less my thing at the moment. Probably because we live in one, but still. The writing was good, especially the descriptions of the yucky dusty desert. I’m a Pacific Northwesterner to my core - give me rain and trees, not desert. Let’s just ignore the fact that a huge portion of my home state is desert. I did like how Ahmed didn’t condemn Layla’s parents for wanting to keep their heads down and endure. Lots of YA novels tend to dismiss or ignore the fears and worries of parents in favor of the teen perspective, so it was nice to see a YA novel that acknowledges the parents’ fears. The main villain, the Director, was a mite cartoonish - but then again, if you watch Sophie Scholl: Die letzten Tage and think the Nazis in that movie are cartoonish, just remember they used actual court transcripts of Sophie Scholl’s trial for that movie. Evil can be pretty cartoony - doesn’t make it less scary. 
However, my favorite part of the whole book is Laya’s friend Ayesha. Ayesha is the best. Why? Because she loves Star Wars and also Riz Ahmed. Because, seriously, how can you not love both Star Wars and Riz Ahmed. I mean, come on:
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He’s just so damn gorgeous.
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I mean, come on, just look at him.
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How much more proof do you need? Because I can look at gifs of Riz Ahmed all day.
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Seriously, and yes this is an unpopular opinion alert, but Rogue One might just be my favorite Star Wars movie because I loved all the characters so much and every time I watch it I bawl my eyes out. I seriously wish Rogue One could’ve been a 10-part miniseries so we could’ve gotten to know the characters better. Like Cassian and K2-SO. And Bodhi - I want to know everything about his life and what he’s been up to. The novelization of the movie only offers so much! And I definitely could use a whole trilogy of Baze and Chirrut’s adventures.
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Seriously, what were those two up to the whole time? How did they meet? How long have they been adventuring together? What was their life like before the Empire? What were they up to back when they were Guardians of the Whills? What kind of mischief did Chirrut get up to that Baze had to rescue him from? THIS IS INFORMATION THAT I NEED.
The tie-in novels only tell us so much, damn it! Though Rebel Rising was quite good (fuck yeah, Beth Revis!). Why can’t all of the Rogue One crew get spin-off novels? There were a few comics featuring the origin story of Cassian and K2, but I need a whole epic YA novel of their adventures. And Bodhi’s. And Baze and Chirrut’s. All they got was a middle grade novel. It wasn’t even an origin story! It was still good, though. I just want more. MORE, DAMN IT.
Huh, I knew I said this was going to be short review of Samira Ahmed’s Internment, but instead I got into a major Star Wars/Riz Ahmed spiral, there. Sometimes I just can’t help myself. I’ve gotta look at some more Riz Ahmed gifs.
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God, he’s gorgeous.
RECOMMENDED FOR: Anyone looking for some scary “it could definitely happen here” YA fiction.
NOT RECOMMENDED FOR: Racists.
RATING: 3.5/5
RELEASE DATE: March 12, 2019. So. Uh. Today.  Actually, it comes out March 19, 2019. For some reason I got the two dates confused. So I was actually a week ahead here? I...I made a deadline? What...what is this feeling....is it...accomplishment of some sort?
Nah, this is a tumblr blog for wasting time, not an accomplishment.
RIZ AHMED:
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glompcat · 7 years ago
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Star Wars (2015-) #44 - Written by Kieron Gillen - Art by Salvador Larroca
The best part of this absurd display of Han Solo being Han Solo, was how Leia seemed to take it as a challenge to see who could be the most absurdly in character. 
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She just kept on talking, going over all of her talking points to recruit more aide for the Rebellion, even as the Stormtroopers started chasing after them, not stopping as they started crawling through the deadly wildlife on the surface of Mon Cala.
Honestly, these two are determined to net themselves the coveted and impossible to win “most ridiculous Star Wars character” award.
I mean really, what a pair of disaster children, I love both them so much.
Honestly though, this was a great issue for our main characters all around.
I mean, Luke was also great in this issue, yelling at people who are rude to his sister. Especially people who suggest Leia might not understand how hard sacrificing for the greater good can be.
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Luke also once again expressed that he would rather drink milk than alcohol (shout out to that redic bar he was hanging out in in The Legends of Luke Skywalker that only served milk based drinks, mainly boba), which is hilarious when you consider that both Rebel Rising and Rogue One’s novelization made it clear that fermented blue milk is a thing people drink and get drunk off of.
Also, while he was barely in this issue, Chewie had a great moment, dragging Han over his feelings for Leia.
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Even C-3PO had an amusing moment of nonsense
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Anyway I am super excited to see where this new arc goes. I mean breaking into an Imperial prison to save King Lee-Char? This is going to be a ton of fun to read.
My only complaint is: Where is Sana? Where did she go? She just... vanished after Issue 37, and I miss her.
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callioope · 7 years ago
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So I’m just a little less than halfway through Rebel Rising...
...and just at the point where a rebel, Reece Tallent, betrayed Saw and was about to reveal Jyn’s identity before Saw took him out. Saw just commanded Jyn to go into the bunker and took off.
So far, it’s not as bad as I was expecting. The writing style definitely feels more YA, and it’s really a fast read. I mean, I got halfway through during an evening and I was taking notes. It’s strange though because the author goes out of her way to keep Jyn’s hands clean--Jyn is not a “murderer”--but then elements are quite violent. For instance, Saw grapples with Reece and there’s a line about how he was cutting his face as if he was going to skin it. Yikes! There are also horrible flechette weapons used to mass-slaughter innocents and Imperials, but the Reece thing really got me. Not because it’s super gorey (I’ve read and watched Game of Thrones/ASoIaF, obviously), but it just stands out a little with the tone of the rest of the book. 
Also, it is kind of boring that Jyn really spends year 8 - 14 in Saw’s cadre just at his base on the planet Wrea. She never leaves, just trains and forges docs. I do really like how clever they’ve made her, how she enjoys that work to exercise her mind, but we only get a handful of missions, and that is definitely something I would have wanted (I was aware this would happen based on reviews I read, and still disappointed we couldn’t have had more). 
There is a scene where Jyn is instructed to assassinate an Imperial (she even gets a blaster rifle with a sniper scope attachment), and I think this is supposed to be the incident that was referred to in the Rogue One novelization (during the Eadu fight, when Jyn accuses Cassian of following orders like a stormtrooper, she briefly remembers a mission that Saw sent her on but the novel doesn’t say the details before she shakes off the memory). Except that even though Jyn does pull the trigger, it’s made super clear that the target was killed by land mine traps that Saw’s men had also set up (she was just ‘back up insurance’). Given the guilt she felt about that memory, however brief a line it was, I was expected it to go horribly wrong somehow. But she is just ‘equally horrified and relieved’ that she wasn’t responsible. Seemed a little bit like a cop out, but, idk. Should Jyn have been darker? Not sure. Kind of on the fence about it.
We’ll see how the rest of the book goes! I wanted to read it for the post Saw years, so here we go. I know there’s a romance between Hadder Ponta and I’ve heard it’s not great (I mean, there’s a dialogue snippet on Wookiepedia that was pretty horrible). 
I’m absolutely unopposed to the idea of Jyn having a love interest besides Cassian; in fact, I prefer back stories that give them some experience (however awkward or brief it might be) over the idea of them being each other’s first relationship experience. I think first relationships are really difficult to navigate; it’s hard to predict what you’ll be like with another person and you learn a lot about yourself when you engage in that kind of commitment. And Cassian and Jyn have enough going against them in terms of diving into a relationship that for them to be completely in unnavigated waters seems like a lot.
Anyways, I’m not opposed to them being each other’s first, just prefer they’re not. But it has to be executed well.
It’s bed time for now; 50/50 chance I stay home tomorrow because if I can’t talk I probably shouldn’t go to work, and if I do stay home I bet I’m finishing this!
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jyndor · 2 years ago
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I’m the Bixcassian anon and it’s no bait. And I’m not saying she and Jyn would be rivals, I’m simply stating that I think Cassian never stopped loving Bix and thought about her on his last moments, what’s the problem on that? I have nothing against Jyn, I think she’s not very interesting but I don’t hate on her. And I think Cassian loved Bix until his last day because she’s the love of his life
lol that's literally just your opinion anon, I'm happy it makes you feel better to think that cassian "you're not the only one who's lost everything" andor is disappointed and heartbroken and experiencing no second chances at love in his last days and last moments. hope that brings you comfort, but also know it's literally just your headcanon. in that it's not based on actual canon but hey I am part of the rogue one fandom, we have all kinds of delusional headcanons so welcome to the club. for instance cassian opens his eyes in the last second so obviously a ship comes and saves them and he notices it and they live.
in all seriousness if you haven't read the rogue one novelization it may actually give you a new appreciation for all of the characters in rogue one because it does a lot of work to make up for what the reshoots likely did to a lot of these characters. the novel was written like years and years ago so it mentions cassian's old backstory but I'm sincerely recommending it for some good character work. I think there are a lot of people in the andor fandom who didn't spend much time in the rogue one fandom and I highly recommend reading the rogue one novels (catalyst, rebel rising even though it's not my favorite it fleshes out saw and jyn's relationship, ofc the novelization) because they're really helpful to understanding the characters a bit better. especially since cassian is so different in andor.
I'm gonna give you some advice on fandom etiquette: telling someone who ships something that their ship is dumb and not as good as your ship is kind of weird. the reason I think you may be baiting me is like first off there's been a dickhead going around harassing queer wlw who ship rebelcaptain and saying things about how melshi is cassian's true love and jyn blows lol WHICH OKAYY i guess we all have hobbies, and also I've been in fandom for a long ass time. ive seen how trolls behave. I didn't grow up in the atla fandom to not be able to smell ship war baiting a mile away.
I'm not trying to argue about b*xcassian because who cares what i have to say about them since I don't like their dynamic as a ship in the show. lol go find some fellow shippers to talk about how bland jyn is and how much, despite all evidence to the contrary, cassian has no interest in her.
it's one thing to go to someone and say "hey let's talk about x ship we disagree on and what you don't like" but don't be shocked that people might think you're a troll when you come at them with a ship they've explained that they don't like and also saying their otp doesn't actually mean anything lol
luckily this stuff just makes me laugh but no anon, I have no way of knowing you're sincere. you go on anon and you forfeit the right to be shocked when people don't take you at your word on things. that's the trade off for being able to communicate anonymously.
anyway I live on trolly anons so if you are trolling please feed me seymour feed me now, if you are sincere do just try to avoid doing this to other people in the future because some people find it hurtful.
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the-music-keeper · 7 years ago
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My Reading List During Winter Break
Not much, but in my defense, the holidays have been going on, and personally, I don’t think a book a week is a bad rate. And these are books I’ve had since last Christmas that I have had no time to read. None. Whatsoever. Not that I have to explain myself.
Anyway, without further ado, here is the list:
Star Wars: Bloodline by Claudia Gray
With few exceptions, I will like any Star Wars novel I read. Bloodline, however, is especially great because it’s a worldbuilder – it gives the reader an inside glimpse into galactic politics during the New Republic era. Plus you’ve got Leia doing some Sherlock Holmes detective work, and I love it.
(It was also nice to have one of my headcanons made canon. Before I read the book, I didn’t think Leia would easily forgive her father for the atrocities he committed. The book confirmed this – Leia still hates Vader. With a passion. And honestly, who can blame her?)
Star Wars: Rebel Rising by Beth Revis
This book is absolute gold. It’s basically a backstory fanfiction for Jyn Erso, and I love it. It makes so much sense, and it ties in so well with Rogue One. And it just makes you love Jyn so much more and cry all the harder when she didn’t get the happy ending she deserved.
Jyn is all of us in this book. She’s just trying her best, and sometimes she doesn’t know what the best thing is. But she’s trying, and that’s all she can do.
And it breaks my heart. I really, really wish she’d gotten a happy ending with Cassian.
Carry On by Rainbow Rowell
I tried and failed to finish Carry On three times. This time I finally finished it, and I liked it a lot. But here’s the thing – this book is like a Crock-pot. It is a slow, slow burn, especially for someone like me, a reader who’s not big on mysteries or wizardry (no, I never read the Harry Potter series). Now, granted, the ending is very satisfying because the answers to all the mysteries going on tie into one another and all the loose ends are tied up. But I don’t recommend this story if you don’t like slow burns.
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blue-mint-winter · 7 years ago
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So I read this article about the problems with biographical novels in new EU and I have some thoughts on the subject...
The main criticism of this kind of novels is that they span a long time and tell the life story of the main character, instead of concentrating on specific important event or just one interesting time in their life. Filling up all gaps in just one book is going to limit new stories we can get about the character.
The article doesn’t consider why this is happening. In my opinion, there are two reasons - there are no plans for more big stories about the character, because they are relatively minor (example: Galen and Lyra Erso in Catalyst) or the book is actually a backstory of a character (example: Thrawn) and there is a big possibility of stories about their future adventures.
Anyway, the article’s criticism can be debunked easily, because these novels leave a lot of gaps for future stories.
Rebel Rising - Jyn’s time in Saw’s partisans wasn’t documented day by day, there’s a room for more missions. Jyn’s time as a drifter for a few years was also skimmed over, giving room for more adventures.
Catalyst - actually, I doubt we’d get any more stories about Galen and/or Lyra in this novel’s timeframe. It’s a prequel and backstory for their opening scene in Rogue One. But there’s room for more Krennic appearances during Clone Wars and Empire era as he had a life outside of hovering over Galen.
Tarkin - backstory of Tarkin which I doubt we would have gotten anywhere else + one adventure about getting the rebels that stole his ship. Still gives lots of room for more appearances during his time in Judicials, Clone Wars, and Empire era.
Thrawn - the story of how he became admiral and got involved with Lothal issues. Still doesn’t tell us anything about his days in Chiss Ascendancy, meeting Anakin during Clone Wars and there’s definitely room for more stories with Thrawn in the Imperial ranks.
In conclusion, I think the article greatly underestimates the ability of SW storytellers to make up more stuff and fill the gaps. Of course if there’s actually interest in characters mentioned to get more stories. At the very least we can count on some cameos. These characters don’t always have to be in the spotlight, they can appear in someone else’s stories too as supporting or background cast.
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kaelinaloveslomaris · 7 years ago
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Hey there :) how are you? I wanted to ask you what star wars books you own?
Haha, want a picture of my Star Wars bookshelf?
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The top shelf is new canon, plus some of my reference books that were too tall/didn’t fit in the main shelf. The other two shelves are all EU Legends, except the six tall books on the left of the middle shelf, which are the rest of my reference (except my cross-section and blueprint books, which are on a different shelf and not pictured here).
The books are in chronological order, to the best of my ability. (The exceptions are the anthology-type books, like The Rise of the Empire in new canon, which has Tarkin and A New Dawn in it. Thrawn technically takes place between them, but I can’t exactly put that book in the middle of the anthology, lolz. Same with my novelizations of the PT and OT movies. I have them in anthology collections instead of separate books, so those just kinda sit between the reference and the rest of the EU.)
Complete list/breakdown of the books I own under the cut, if you’re really interested.
Of the new canon, I have Catalyst, Ahsoka, Lords of the Sith, Tarkin, A New Dawn, Thrawn, Lost Stars, the Rogue One novelization, Heir to the Jedi, Battlefront: Twilight Company, and the Force Awakens novelization. I’m planning on pre-ordering Battlefront II: Inferno Squad, though I might actually wait until it comes out in paperback. I haven’t decided yet.
It should be noted that I haven’t actually read all of these books yet, not by half. Of the new canon, I’ve read Catalyst and Heir to the Jedi, though I’ve perused the Rogue One novelization, and I’ve listened to the audiobooks of Aftermath and Aftermath: Life Debt.
The reference books on the top shelf are a combination of EU and new canon reference (they are EU unless otherwise noted), and include the four “handbook” type things (Imperial Handbook, Book of Sith, The Jedi Path, and The Bounty Hunter Code), Sword Fighting in the Star Wars Universe (which is not so much an in-verse reference as a kind of making-of, talking about where the lightsaber fighting styles and the Jedi culture/religion came from/were adapted from), The Essential Reader’s Companion for the EU books (which I just picked up yesterday, actually), the Rogue One Rebel Dossier (new canon), the Rogue One Ultimate Visual Guide (new canon), The Essential Atlas, and the Complete Locations.
The reference books on the second shelf are all EU Legends. I have the New Essential Guides to Droids, Vehicles & Vessels, Weapons & Technology, and Alien Species, Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force, and the Essential Guide to Warfare.
Then finally, moving on to the sprawling mess that is the EU. I have the Prequel Trilogy novelizations in one book, then the Dark Lord Trilogy, which includes Labyrinth of Evil, Revenge of the Sith (again, I have two copies of this, but it was cheaper to buy the anthology versions, so *shrug*), and Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, then the Original Trilogy novelizations in one book. Like I said earlier, these aren’t in chronological order because of how they were set up, so it was easier to just stick them at the front and put the rest in order without them. Plus they’re the only ones not mass market paperback, so… They wouldn’t really fit with how I have the others laid out anyways.
So. Legends. I have, in stack one, Outbound Flight, another separate copy of the TPM novelization (because I bought it before I realized it would be cheaper to get the anthologies, and it has an extra short story from Darth Maul’s POV in it, so I kept it), Kenobi, the Han Solo Trilogy (The Paradise Snare, The Hutt Gambit, and Rebel Dawn), the Han Solo Adventures, Scoundrels, Shadows of the Empire, and The Truce at Bakura.
Stack two: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor (this one is honestly one of my favorites), the first part of the X-wing series (Rogue Squadron, Wedge’s Gamble, The Krytos Trap, The Bacta War, Wraith Squadron, Iron Fist, and Solo Command), The Courtship of Princess Leia, and Tatooine Ghost.
Stack three: the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command), X-wing: Isard’s Revenge, X-wing: Starfighters of Adumar, the Hand of Thrawn duology (Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future), and Survivor’s Quest.
Of these, I have read Kenobi, the first two books of the Han Solo trilogy, SotE, Bakura, Mindor, and the first three books of the X-wing series. I’m currently reading The Bacta War. I’m trying to work through these somewhat chronologically, so I haven’t read any from the third shelf yet.
Speaking of… shelf three. I have the entire New Jedi Order series except Star by Star, which I just haven’t acquired yet. I keep waiting for it to show up at this used book store near my house that sells mass market paperbacks like this for half the price. They have a ton of EU books, but I’ve never seen that one there. I also keep an eye on it on Amazon, and if it ever drops below $6, I’ll grab it there. But, since I’m reading chronologically, I’m not too worried about needing it any time soon. :)
Then I have the entire Legacy of the Force series, the Dark Nest trilogy (The Joiner King, The Unseen Queen, and The Swarm War), and all the Fate of the Jedi books except Apocalypse for the same reason I don’t yet have Star by Star. Then X-wing: Mercy Kill and Crucible. I also have a separate novelization of ANH, for the same reason as TPM, but I still have it because I got it from Amazon, and it would have cost me more that the cost of the book to ship it back. So I just kept it.
Anyways. That’s my crazy collection of Star Wars books. I also want to get the Art of Rogue One, but I’m hoping to find that at my book store too, because even if it’s not half price (only the mass market paperbacks are fully half price), it’ll probably be cheaper there than anywhere else.
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fymeetrasurik · 8 years ago
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Rebel Rising
I got the new book about Jyn! Funny story, I knew this was a junior novel, but in my mind i thought that meant teen. So i was in my bookstore looking for a good long while. I eventually asked and it was in the kids section, like little kids. So 1, i felt like a jerk lol, and 2, that’s super weird to me. Cause given what i know about Jyn and this very book, it’s weird to me it’s in the kids section.
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Anyway, I’m very excited to read it. I’ve read till chapter 3 and so far i’m totally into it. Little Jyn is great and this is exactly the story i wanted to see. Her between Krennic arriving to her home and the movie. Other funny story, i started writing a fic about this very topic until i heard this book was being made. (Which btw, my aftermath between Galen and Orson is almost exactly what it was in the rogue one novelization before i read it lol)
So i’ll read this and give a round up of thoughts i guess when I’m done, so yeah!
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