#AND GET SECOND HAND EMBARASSMEMT

[dearinglovebot]

i desperately need to know how that date actually went. like if drink choice, wardrobe, and planning things were the worst things that happened then it really couldn’t have been that bad. clearly there’s more they’re resentful of whether that’s more history between them or something that happened on the date.

assuming there isn’t some secret torrid affair of course, my read on the situation would be claire was genuinely excited and owen self-sabotaged and continued to do so. if we go off interviews, it would make the most sense that way.

(bryce: chris said his character [owen] loves me [claire] in the beginning of the movie. i [claire] don’t really care for him though. one of the many mistakes my character makes at the beginning of the movie)

it’s very easy to see where claire’s resentment comes from: he wore board shorts to this date while I presumably dressed up. ergo he’s not as invested in this as me or he’s only here to get me in his bed. I’m inclined to think she’s genuinely upset about the clothing choice

on the other hand, with owen, i really can only understand the itinerary complaint. there’s the possible thought of: oh she’s treating this as a business arrangement. is that all this is in her mind? does she have any actual interest in me or is this some emotional/sexual quota she wants to fulfill. (personally I would find it deeply adorable though. i love you claire)

the tequila thing though? I’m more inclined to think he’s nitpicking things to make them seem incompatible to himself. because honestly it’s just tequila. if alcohol is that big of a make or break, I’m taking her side fully.

moving back a little, if we take actor’s words as character fact, we know that owen had feelings before claire got to the same place. whether that love happened before or after the date, we aren’t sure, but I think it’s a fair assumption to say he had feelings then.

which brings me back to the claire was excited, owen self-sabotaged reading. claire’s excited because she sees the idea of developing feelings and is even more taken aback by how little he seems to care (shorts). and of course she’s pissed at herself that she’s even disappointed by this because what did she expect from him?

owen is probably crushing on her at this point, which is very scary because people suck, so what does he do? board shorts! either that or he’s a dumbass who thought claire would be at all accepting towards a casual date but if he knows her well enough to crush on her, I’d assume he knows her well enough to dress in a way she’d respond positivity towards.

it might not have been a fully conscious decision, but I do believe it was an intentional one to make this date not work out so he could get rid of these Terrible Feelings. and then he keeps finding things to convince himself they’re incompatible because this is a woman who plans things!! she doesn’t even like tequila!! they’re clearly from different worlds. he cannot have these feelings for a woman like this.

naturally, this is a terrible plan that doesn’t work. now he’s just into a girl who kinda hates him and annoying her with bad innuendos until she cracks a smile is the only way he can get through to her

i really don’t think those things on the surface could lead to animosity like that. they’re just things that represent the things they’re actually bothered by. i think a date between them could genuinely turn out very well if they have a real conversation about where they went wrong the first time

[yellowhearther0]

is there a lot of secondhand embarrassment in sing 2? or encanto for that matter? i really wanna watch both of them but i'm worried i won't be able to :/

Okay theres no second hand embarassmemt im encanto at all but sing 2 on the other hand.... its mostly towards the middle? Nd once u get past it its fine but oh my GOD it was kinda Bad