#4x19 bad seed

[dgct2]

"Come on. You know you're the only woman in my life."

[northernexposureonly]

NORTHERN EXPOSURE

(Original Air Dates in the US)

SEASON FOUR / 25 EPISODES

(1992/1993)

28.09. - 4x01 Northwest Passages

05.10. - 4x02 Midnight Sun

12.10. - 4x03 Nothing’s Perfect

19.10. - 4x04 Heroes

02.11. - 4x05 Blowing Bubbles

09.11. - 4x06 On Your Own

16.11. - 4x07 The Bad Seed

23.11. - 4x08 Thanksgiving

30.11. - 4x09 Do The Right Thing

14.12. - 4x10 Crime And Punishment

04.01. - 4x11 Survival Of The

Species

11.01. - 4x12 Revelations

18.01. - 4x13 Duets

01.02. - 4x14 Grosse Point, 48230

08.02. - 4x15 Learning Curve

15.02. - 4x16 Ill Wind

22.02. - 4x17 Love’s Labor Mislaid

01.03. - 4x18 Northern Lights

08.03. - 4x19 Family Feud

15.03. - 4x20 Homesick

22.03. - 4x21 The Big Feast

03.05. - 4x22 Kaddish For Uncle

Manny

10.05. - 4x23 Mud And Blood

17.05. - 4x24 Sleeping With The

Enemy

24.05. - 4x25 Old Tree

[cassierobinsons]

i apologize for misunderstanding some of your first point-i actually do agree sam handled dean's hell trauma incredibly poorly, and i think it's interesting for me on a personal level that it's the season i like him best, along with season 8, where he's also genuinely unsympathetic about dean's further trauma in purgatory. sam is most interesting to me when he's entering bastard mode and acting like john.

WIAWSNB is THAT episode, totally, but i think that idea comes from more of a byproduct of dean's self-loathing where even if he got a "perfect" normal life he can't imagine himself as anything other than a fuck up and a loser. it's implied he stole from mary and maybe sam too i believe.

i guess my kneejerk reaction is around some of the broader discourse i've seen that paints dean's struggles with alcohol as like, a moral failing he needs to make up for so he can end up in the user's ideal way of living. instead of like you said, it being a response to never ending trauma. the later seasons don't really get into it except maybe the widower arc which is controversial enough for dean's character that it gets overlooked. you're basically watching a character fall apart slowly for 10 years and just begging the show to just let the guy sit on a beach for a bit to experience even a modicum of peace.

(following on from this ask)

no worries anon, i actually appreciated the opportunity to further clarify my point because it was a little unclear in my own head too. forgot to mention it last night, but i think edlund writes sam a little pricklier than than the other writers do (not in a weird way like dabb vs dean, in a genuinely fun/interesting way) so that influences how i look back at his behaviour in 4x08. i mean, even if i fully understand why sam was trying to poke & prod the truth out of dean, we can all agree that trying too hard to get someone to confess to their trauma instead of letting them come out with it in their own time does more harm than good.

yeah s4 sam did notttt handle dean's hell trauma well. a lot of samgirls will point out that dean's reaction to the powers/blooddrinking is bad and i agree! but that doesn't account for sam's flippant referencing of dean's time in hell in say, 4x09, just because he's frustrated dean's being cagey. i agree that it makes s4 sam all the more interesting and john-like though. 4x19 jump the shark is an aptly-named episode judging from premise alone, but this moment is like, transcendently good. it's also why i've said after school special is out of place in season 4.

anyway - enough about sam. this is about the hotter brother!

agreed on WIAWSNB! it's an episode about how even if dean doesn't let on, he fundamentally sees himself as the bad seed of the family, as the eternal fuck-up. dean thinks that even with a relatively stable upbringing he'd be a harddrinking loser who steals from family members to pay gambling debts. and that isn't even an accurate description of regular dean!

no, i get it! tbqh a lot of takes on dean irk me deeply because they feel like they come from people who lowkey think of him as an uncouth lumpenprole trogolodyte iykwim. dean's alcoholism isn't a moral failing, it's an unhealthy coping mechanism he developed to deal with his untenable real life circumstances. and i feel like kripke era understood that. but then it just kept getting worse? and the further the show went on, the greater the distance put between the audience and the memory of the original trigger for dean's developing addiction, meaning that both show & fandom began to treat the alcoholism like a character flaw dean innately had because he sucks that much. you and i both know he can't heal until he can actually rest but because spn is a bad show he can never rest. they never even had a beach episode!!!

anyway this is why ideal spn is the post-kripke era sitcomnatural au that vaguely exists in my head.

[enigmaticxbee]

✖️✖️ 4x19 Synchrony

The one where... a scientist travels back in time to stop himself from inventing time travel (which apparently causes your body to both freeze and burn).

Best: Mulder quoting Scully’s senior thesis at her. Mulder: You were a lot more open minded when you were a youngster. Scully: I know what I wrote. She smiles, charmed, then continues arguing with him.

Worst: I just find the scientists boring, I’m not emotionally invested in what happens to them.

❌ Flashlights

❌ Woods

❌ Slideshow

✔️ Autopsy

✔️ Evidence Disappears

❌ Scully Misses It

❌ Mulder Ditch

❌ Sunflower Seeds

❌ Voiceover

❌ Catch Phrase

❌ Scully is a Medical Doctor

❌ Mulder is Spooky

❌ Scuuullllaaaaayy! Muullllderrrr!

❌ Fox/Dana

❌ Inappropriate Touching (that I am here for) - lotta close sitting/talking though

❌ Casual Scully

❌ Casual Mulder

✔️ Trench Coats

❌ Bad Tie Watch

❌ Glasses Watch

50 States: Massachusetts x10 (34/50)

Investigate: Together & Apart

Solve Rate: 61%

✔️ Bechdel Test

MSR: 🐝🐝

Goriness: 👽👽👽

Creepiness: 👽

Humor: 👽👽

Rewatch Thoughts:

Cancer Arc Check-in: No mention.

Mulder quoting Scully: Although multidimensionality suggests infinite outcomes in an infinite number of universes, each universe can only produce one outcome. Love how this ties in with Mulder and Scully’s conversation in All Things about how all our choices lead to this very moment - the series of choices that they make that lead them to be sitting together on that couch having that conversation are both freely made, and the only choices they could have made in this universe.

Episode-Related Fanfic Recs:

Synchrony by @30xf. Cute post-episode chat about Scully’s senior thesis and life choices.

[nick-nellson]

@priisakilljoy under the read more for you 😊

1x01 pilot

1x09 home

1x11 scarecrow

1x12 faith

1x14 nightmare

1x17 hell house

2x01 in my time of dying

2x02 everybody loves a clown

2x13 houses of the holy

2x14 born under a bad sign

2x15 tall tales

2x20 what is and what should never be

2x21 all hell breaks loose: part one

2x22 all hell breaks loose: part two

3x03 bad day at black rock

3x08 a very supernatural christmas

3x11 mystery spot

3x13 ghostfacers

3x16 no rest for the wicked

4x01 lazarus rising

4x02 are you there god, it’s me, dean winchester

4x03 in the beginning

4x06 yellow fever

4x07 it’s the great pumpkin, sam winchester

4x09 i know what you did last summer

4x10 heaven and hell

4x13 after school special

4x14 sex and violence

4x15 death takes a holiday

4x16 on the head of a pin

4x18 the monster at the end of this book

4x19 jump the shark

4x20 the rapture

4x21 when the levee breaks

4x22 lucifer rising

5x01 sympathy for the devil

5x02 good god y’all

5x03 free to be you and me

5x04 the end

5x06 i believe the children are our future

5x08 changing channels

5x10 abandon all hope

5x11 sam interrupted

5x12 swap meat

5x13 the song remains the same

5x14 my bloody valentine

5x15 dead men don’t wear plaid

5x16 dark side of the moon

5x17 99 problems

5x18 point of no return

5x21 two minutes to midnight

5x22 swan song

6x03 the third man

6x06 you can’t handle the truth

6x07 family matters

6x09 clap your hands if you believe

6x10 caged heat

6x11 appointment in samarra

6x12 like a virgin

6x15 the french mistake

6x17 my heart will go on

6x18 frontierland

6x19 mommy dearest

6x20 the man who would be king

6x21 let it bleed

6x22 the man who knew too much

7x01 meet the new boss

7x02 hello, cruel world

7x10 death’s door

7x12 time after time

7x14 plucky penny whistle’s magical menagerie

7x17 the born-again identity

7x20 the girl with the dungeons and dragons tattoo

7x21 reading is fundamental

7x23 survival of the fittest

8x01 we need to talk about kevin

8x02 what’s up, tiger mommy?

8x05 blood brother

8x07 a little slice of kevin

8x08 hunter heroici

8x10 torn and frayed

8x11 LARP and the real girl

8x17 goodbye stranger

8x20 pac-man fever

8x21 the great escapist

8x22 clip show

8x23 sacrifice

9x01 i think i’m gonna like it here

9x03 i’m no angel

9x04 slumber party

9x06 heaven can’t wait

9x09 holy terror

9x10 road trip

9x11 first born

9x13 the purge

9x14 captives

9x18 meta fiction

9x21 king of the damned

9x22 stairway to heaven

9x23 do you believe in miracles

10x01 black

10x02 reichenbach

10x03 soul survivor

10x05 fan fiction

10x07 girls, girls, girls

10x08 hibbing 911

10x09 the things we left behind

10x10 the hunter games

10x11 there’s no place like home

10x14 the excecutioner’s song

10x16 paint it black

10x17 inside man

10x18 book of the damned

10x20 angel heart

10x21 dark dynasty

10x22 the prisoner

10x23 brother’s keeper

11x01 out of the darkness, into the fire

11x02 form and void

11x03 the bad seed

11x04 baby

11x06 our little world

11x08 just my imagination

11x10 the devil in the details

11x11 into the mystic

11x12 don’t you forget about me

11x14 the vessel

11x15 beyond the mat

11x17 red meat

11x18 hell’s angel

11x20 don’t call me shurley

11x21 all in the family

11x22 we happy few

11x23 alpha and omega

12x01 keep calm and carry on

12x02 mamma mia

12x03 the foundry

12x07 rock never dies

12x08 LOTUS

12x09 first blood

12x10 lily sunder has some regrets

12x11 regarding dean

12x12 stuck in the middle (with you)

12x15 somewhere between heaven and hell

12x17 the british invasion

12x19 the future

12x22 who we are

12x23 all along the watchtower

13x01 lost and found

13x02 the rising son

13x03 patience

13x04 the big empty

13x05 advanced thanatology

13x06 tombstone

13x07 war of the worlds

13x09 the bad place

13x10 wayward sisters

13x12 various & sundry villains

13x13 devil’s bargain

13x14 good intentions

13x16 scoobynatural

13x18 bring ‘em back alive

13x19 funeralia

13x20 unfinished business

13x21 beat the devil

13x22 exodus

13x23 let the good times roll

14x01 stranger in a strange land

14x02 gods and monsters

14x03 the scar

14x06 optimism

14x07 unhuman nature

14x08 byzantium

14x09 the spear

14x10 nihilism

14x12 prophet and loss

14x13 lebanon

14x14 ouroboros

14x15 peace of mind

14x16 don’t go into the woods

14x17 game night

14x18 absence

14x19 jack in the box

14x20 moriah

15x01 back and to the future

15x02 raising hell

15x03 the rupture

15x06 golden time

15x07 last call

15x08 our father, who aren’t in heaven

15x09 the trap

15x10 the heroes’ journey

15x11 the gamblers

15x12 galaxy brain

15x13 destiny’s child

15x14 last holiday

15x15 gimme shelter

15x17 unity

15x18 despair

15x19 inherit the earth

made a list of all the supernatural episodes i wanted to rewatch today mostly focusing on episodes i love and then ones with cas or jack in... there’s 200 episodes on the list 🙈

[dgct2]

To heal. We need the truth, right? No matter how ugly it is.

[dgct2]

Tweet from Spindrift Beck who wrote 4x19 Bad Seed ❤️

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Dylan McDermott and Alexa Davalos as Remy Scott and Kristin Gaines in FBI Most Wanted 4x19 Bad Seed.