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torgawl · 10 months

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literally obsessed with that one stupid page about the 4 samsara cycles by the narzissenkreuz ordo and the concept of descenders. what exactly are the "remains" of the third descender? does that mean their physical form or something else entirely?

#i feel like i can point out a few things i feel are relevant to understanding the big picture but then don't know how to connect everything #i REALLY think something is up with time in teyvat as a whole #you cannot tell me the fact istaroth has been worships before in teyvat and no longer is and the only way it has preserved through time #and consequently the samsaras has been through stories (like we experience in sumeru) isn't extremely relevant #it has to be!!! it's unwanted information in the 'system'#much like forbidden knowledge which we know is associated with the fall of multiple civilizations #and what is also associated with places that have been targetted by celestia's nails? irminsul branches #the same irminsul that records all information in teyvat #the same irminsul we can assume dain uses to continue to live till this day breaking free from erosion #erosion from 'time' that affects even the gods?!#is erosion even natural in the first place?#curses by the heavenly principles... fear against otherwordly information... cycles of life...#4 cycles... 4 descenders... 4 shades of phanes (2 unknown)...#the samsara cycles having names of civilizations/regions...#what's connecting these things?#natlan's incsndescant ode of ressurection... ressurection... gnosis being remains of the third descender...#the tsaritsa collecting the gnosis... i know there's a connection there has to be #i really think time is fucked up in teyvat like what if the entire thing is just timeless?#i feel like i have the brain the size of a pea #could the descenders be us or our twin in different 'times'?#the concept of the gnosis fucked me up i don't understand it genuinely what are remains and can they coexist with the supposed 3rd or not #genshin thoughts

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