#2ha kin

[ghostgeranium]

18+ Danmei Kincord!

For any 18+ kin/fictives from any danmei source! I.e. mdzs, svsss, tgcf, 2ha, thousand autumns, etc- I don't know them all personally but anyone with a like source is welcome!

The server includes a blacklist, pluralkit, and we're double-friendly!

[findthebae]

Hi! I'm Mo Ran from 2ha/The Husky and his White Cat Shizun. I'm looking for any sourcemates but especially Chu Wanning and Shi Mei. I'm 23, so adults only please. Interact and I'll get back to you.

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[psychickei]

Chu Wanning 100% listens to Mitski and he comfort himself(knowing that someone get his feelings) and wallows in self-pity while listening to her songs. He would listen to A Pearl and I Bet On Losing Dogs the most.

[iwanttofuckereh69]

now reading 2ha vol2

ch 46 - 55

(sorry its a bit long, i wanted to be... coherent... this time lol)

btw tell me how much suffering i should expect from vol 2. on the scale from papercut to getting my heart ripped out 😭

Ok so… That lake thing was wild. Or so i thought, before Chu Wanning TURNED INTO A FUCKING KID. Like what the hell? He is either adorable or absurdly scary, no in between. I'm loving this so far.

I looked at that illustration in the book when I first got it  and I was more than confused because I couldn’t tell who was who. And for a moment I legit was like Is Chu Wanning a child? But then I was like NAAAAH CAN’T BE. Welp. Here we are :)))))) 

1. TL;DR: Chu Wanning is a horny lonely loser (affectionate)

Chu Wanning and his dreams. I have a hunch it's somehow a glimpse into their previous life. No idea how it would occur but that scene seems like something that might have happened?

It seems rather interesting to me that THIS would be Chu Wanning's fantasy. I couldn’t help but wonder if it isn’t because that’s the only way he would allow himself the pleasure. Because ultimately he doesn’t get to have a choice in that scenario. It takes away the guilt of lusting over his disciple. So maybe that’s where it came from. And, moreover, this is Mo Ran who wants CWN. Wants him so badly he can’t contain himself. I just found it really interesting that of all scenarios, CWN dreams of that one. I don’t know why I kept thinking about it but here we are ig lol

Also, Mo Ran destroyed his golden core in his past life? Did I miss that in vol 1? Because ohh :c. Or it wasn't Mo Ran???  

2. TL;DR: I’m gonna get hurt so so so bad

Mo Ran smiled. “Yep. Cause I’m closest with you, and I know you’d never lie to me.” Shi Mei was still hesitant. “That’s true, but…”

Welp. Based on community’s reactions that’s gonna hurt like motherfucker. I fucking know that line is there for a reason. I fucking know it. The reason is to break my heart. And isn’t it like a second time Shi Mei says something about not lying to Mo Ran? I WONDER WHY. (i might have remembered it wrong tbh but this part is there and is tormenting me)

3. TL;DR: Mo Ran’s emotional intelligence is at most equal to emotional intelligence of a lettuce (one that’s been sitting in the back of your fridge for weeks because you forgot about it); Also, Shi Mei is sweet and kind and i don’t believe any of you anymore. He can’t hurt a soul. 

Mo Ran is very adamant on hating Chu Wanning. He wants to hate him. He needs to hate him. As if he was scared of the feelings that might be left if he does not hate him. That part is specifically in relation to his conversation with Shi Mei and how uncomfortable he’s gotten when Shi Mei started going on and on about how Chu Wanning isn’t really all that bad. 

And then that part with the umbrella happened and I really wish it was from Mo Ran’s perspective, because for the love of god I have no idea what his intentions are. It seemed like a really bad and failed flirting attempt. Like me when I asked this guy that was in a band in school to tune my guitar but it was in fact in tune and it was just embarrassing tbh But it could be just him trying to be nice for whatever reason  and CWN overreacting because he is strong and independent and he doesn't need (no man) anyone. 

I’m really puzzled at Mo Ran tho. And, like, that’s not a bad thing. There is this part of him that hates Chu Wanning with every fiber in his body. But he also admires him deeply as a teacher and maaaybe tiny bit as a person. There is both disdain and interest. Hatred and kindness. His whole (other) life it seems like he had this image of Chu Wanning that was coldblooded and ruthless. And i feel like it’s shattering now that he starts to notice how it wasn’t really the case. But still it’s hard for him to put those two pieces together so he really tries to choose one. It’s really telling when he can’t answer Shi Mei’s question ab if he dislikes Shizun.

ALSO SHI MEI IS SO SWEET AND KIND I DONT BELIEVE ANY OF YOU. HE CANT BE EVIL. He can't be evil... He can't...

4. I’m just wondering why the thing that happened at the lake (i don’t remember how it’s spelled so it’s going to be THE LAKE) was so different to how it went the first time MR was there. Basically the one major change he’s purposefully made was that he stole money from Rong Jiu and didn’t fall for his trap. Could it be somehow connected? Because otherwise the events should be the same unless something was changed. And the only thing i can think of right now that he influenced in major way, is that whole deal with Rong Jiu. The ghost marriage "arc" ended more or less the same, didn't it? I might be mixing shit up but oh well.

Also, I saw a post the other day in which op was talking how Mo Ran’s love for Chu Wanning was clear to them from the very beginning. Op said they don’t understand how others might not get it and since i’m the one that wasn’t that keen on the idea at first, i decided to elaborate a bit on points i made after first 20 chapters or so, this time trying not to be as much of a clown (hopefully).

Well, I’ve seen the title of the book and I know they're gonna end up together one way or another. But its complicated and messy and I would even go as far as to say that’s the point? And, ironically it's also in the title. A dog and a cat. At first glance they are so different it seems almost impossible for them to get along. At first glance Chu Wanning and Mo Ran felt too different to be able to get along as well. There was too much resentment and too much things left unsaid (and unnoticed). After reading only first 20 chapters i was told that 1. Chu Wanning is ruthless and cruel 2. Mo Ran hates him. 3. Mo Ran is horny for him. Only with time as I was reading further, it turned out that they both care for each other in ways they themselves have a hard time explaining. 

I also don’t think sexual attraction equals everlasting love. And like, the fact that Mo Ran doesn’t get hard at the sight of Shi Mei isn’t telling me anything about his feelings. Does he really love him too much to have a single impure thought about him? Or does he not realize he doesn’t like him that way? Does he love him platonically? I don’t know. I’m for sure lacking context in this situation. That’s the point. I want to read it with my mouth open agape as I get to know those characters more and as slowly my first impression changes. Right now, based on what i’ve been presented by the book I adore Mo Ran’s puppy love for Shi Mei. But as i’m on chapter 50, I see it as just that, a puppy love.  

I don’t want to argue who to ship, because that’s not the point im trying to make xD I just think my hesitation to picture CWN and MR together after first 20 chapters was not that weird. I know it will happen and i’m curious to see how long it will take those idiots to realize their feelings for eachother and express them. I know they are meant to be. But they themselves don’t know that yet. And it feels like they try their best to ruin every chance they get lol I’m also curious where those feelings come from. Why Mo Ran became so obsessed with CWN.

There is foreshadowing, there are those little and not so little things scattered across that slowly become more meaningful the more context you add on top of them. But those alone, in my opinion aren’t enough to be convinced with utmost certainty from page one that the main characters are in fact in love. It’s more complicated than that and that’s why I enjoy it a lot and i enjoy when the books makes me believe one thing to then make me realize it wasn't ever that simple. Am I making sense? Idk it's 1AM i want to go to sleep njkinrjgkn

[danmeiconfession]

2ha spoilers:

I wish that HB had lived just a bit longer to actually find out what MR actually is. Because I would have loved to see his reaction if he had found out that the person whom he subjected to such horrors and used as a tool was his kin whom he had sworn to protect with his life.

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[yiifu]

i finished sha po lang a few days ago and it was so good but i've also been thinking about how sha po lang is such a fitting title for the book - on one hand it alludes to the astrological system of being born under an unlucky star, on the other hand it can also roughly translate to 'kill the wolf'. and spl has plenty of mentions about the idea of fate and being forced into certain paths in life based on where and when you were born (the sha po lang star system) - chang geng's birth and existence was fated to be the nation's downfall, gu yun frequently laments if he was just born to be unlucky and born to take on the marquis position to live a lonely life eventually dying for the nation, shen yi is also cursed out by his aunt for being an unlucky star for the family, etc. there may be other mentions elsewhere but these were the pertinent ones i could remember clearly. spl also has plenty of allusions to wolves and wolf imagery - i think the whole idea of territorial expansionism, defense, great liang being surrounded by 'hungry wolves' in gu yun's words, the idea of the bone of impurity involving a child devouring its brother, great lang's eternal enemy the eighteen wolf tribes, the very fact that black iron camp set out to kill the wolf king/prince jia lai ying huo (who eventually dies, though not directly at their hand), the wolf tattoos on the assassins who tried to kill marshal gu twice.

the title was perfectly made for chang geng, he's a wolf tribe person, born under unlucky circumstances, and yet managed to turn around and kill off that part of himself from the barbarian wolf tribes. not to mention the fact that his modus operandi is to act like a lone wolf - only caring about its kin and territory, beholden to no one and highly independent.

the title of this book already gives new readers the impression that it is, essentially, going to be a book about violence. the implication of the sha po lang astrology was not apparent to me at first because despite being chinese myself i've never heard of it where im from. but based off direct translation of the words - 杀 meaning to kill, 破 meaning to break, crack, or shatter, and 狼 meaning wolf, i gathered that the story was going to be about killing things. and violence predominates in this story in the form of war and rebellion.

there were so many parallel scenes/ parts that made me smile, im going to try and screenshot them soon to post a sort of web weave thingy.

spl is not a danmei for everyone. coming here straight from yuwu and 2ha, the lack of in-your-face romance and the plot-heaviness of the story nearly put me off from finishing it. but if you find yourself enjoying it, know that one read will not be enough to fully appreciate everything. i know it wasn't enough for me.

[fictionkinfessions]

Kin trope of not finishing my sources because my Shizun died and it upset me too much to keep reading - Luo Binghe (svsss) and Mo Ran (2ha)

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[tragedy-jun]

they’re a 10 but they kin taxian jun

[evilsexy]

i think you will love taxian jun

txj the guy who declared it was the year of dicks and then declared it was the year of balls?

[saawek]

Chu Wanning [clenches fists] You’re !! SO!! PRETTY

[psychickei]

Sometimes I want to reread 2ha because I self-project too much on Chu Wanning I forget what personality is his and what is mine

[arizona-trash-bag]

just finished book 1 fml

[luukeskywalker]

MO RAN YOU FUCKING DOG SHIT IDIOT THAT’S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT HAPPENED SHUT THE FUUUUCK UP!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!! I’M SOOOOORRY THAT HE COULDN’T RUN TO YOUR SIDE AND CRY OVER YOU WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO SAVE EVERYBODY SINGLEHANDEDLY BUT THAT’S NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO BE A BITCH LIKE THIS!!! SHUT UP!!!! BE NICE TO CHU WANNING FOR ONCE IN YOUR GOD DAMN LIVES IS IT REALLY SO FUCKING HARD

[ithacanradio]

reading the narrative explain why exactly cwn is Like That is working better than psychoanalysis for me this is embarassing.

logically i know that chu wanning is a man and an orphan(?) but. i have never seen someone with biggest eldest sister vibes. carrying everyone on his back/ cannot show vulnerability or he'll die?check. 80's sitcom mean 'talk to the hand' vibes? he has them! affection starved and immensely caring? it's there!! when someone is upset he even makes them food i-

[tentative-wanderer]

[2ha spoilers]

2ha: To Do or Not to Do, and How to Do, Those are the Questions

Elaborates on this post: 2ha Ethics 101

Exploring Hua Binan’s perspective in decision-making

“How could you, waiter? All these menu options are shit”

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I’ve seen several opinions online along these lines: “Hua Binan had other options that he chose not to take. He should have asked for help from Chu Wanning and Sisheng Peak. He shouldn’t have killed innocent people.”

From a reader’s perspective, sure, Sisheng Peak would have helped Hua Binan. But from Hua Binan’s perspective?

Hua Gui had thought that she might one day be able to rely on a highly regarded sect and its leader to protect her people and secure their rights. I think we can agree that she was a resourceful woman, to be able to escape from her prison. Maybe she was also a ruthless and calculating woman, given that her first male helper died under mysterious circumstances. So it’s safe to think that she was not the sort who trusted easily, and that she was not stupid enough to pin hopes on a sect leader who was obviously hopeless. That man probably seemed like he had the potential to keep her clan safe someday. And yet her plan to make a place on Earth that’s liveable for her clan turned out disastrously upon identity leak.

Given Hua Binan’s front-row seat in that debacle, is it any wonder that he was so adamant about hiding his identity later on? Is it any wonder that he’d stubbornly rely on himself and his kin instead of a powerful sect that he had no familial bonds with?

Given his understandably major trust issues with humans, he couldn’t ask Sisheng Peak for help.

“But the humans at Sisheng Peak were trustworthy! His judgment was skewed.” Well, some men are trustworthy, but we don’t blame battered women for being unable to trust them. Some white people were trustworthy during the slavery era, but I wouldn’t blame a black person for being unable to trust even a white person who had been kind to them in those days. If I discovered that a sentient pig was rejecting the option of asking vegans, vegetarians, and Buddhist nuns and monks for help, in favour of taking a genie up on an offer to kill all humans so that pigs would be truly free from battery farming, I would be horrified but I’d understand.

^ writing my will when humans get what’s coming to us

Perhaps, from Hua Binan’s POV, it hadn’t helped that Sisheng Peak had not taken any significant initiative in favour of the rights of the Butterfly Bone clan. Sisheng Peak had not appeared to have qualms about maintaining relationships with the upper cultivation world and Guyueye, a sect infamous for torturing and killing the Butterfly Bone people. Might it be hard for a wary, once-bitten-twice-shy person to have faith that Sisheng Peak would fully support him just upon request?

Let’s say Hua Binan does ask for help. What form should the help take? An activist route to change society’s structure? Even if Chu Wanning and Xue Zhengyong were all for equality, would the rest of the sect be similarly progressive?

Sisheng Peak was civic-minded (just look at its location), but even so, the emancipation of Butterfly Bone people might require a significant mindset change among sect members. I’m thinking of parallels with the men of our world. Most (?) men aren’t what we’d call sexist (because there are worse men vying for that label), but many men (and women) hold gender-biased (well, sexist) ideas systemically ingrained in them due to centuries of patriarchal culture.

If you ask them to change their ideas, they will resist. If you ask them to actively, wholeheartedly provide support for feminism (via protests, personal practices, etc), many would shy away, uncomfortable. Even if they’re good people, these things happen. (I know men like that, I’m sure many women do.)

If Sisheng Peak were like a small mirror of our modern society—filled with people who are very good by olden-day standards but far from the ideal—Hua Binan and co would have their work cut out for them, trying to get buy-in from everyone to commit to a centuries-long investment of time, money, and energy. (Centuries-long, because they’re starting from an ancient dynasty where society is rather lawless and people are horrible to those who rank lower than them.)

And then, zooming out: would the emancipation campaign succeed locally, regionally, worldwide? Importantly: how long would it take to succeed in a world where the minority is seen as dirt? How many minority members would be at risk, suffer, and die in the meantime?

Hua Binan asking for this kind of help from Sisheng Peak is like a woman asking a kindly regional lord to liberate women across the country and install feminist institutions and practices in the Middle Ages. I haven’t heard of successful cases.

What about asking for Chu Wanning/Sisheng Peak’s help to find a magical method of getting the Butterfly Bone clan home without massacring the world? I guess the trust issue will be a major barrier again. Hua Binan may like Chu Wanning, but liking someone doesn’t necessarily mean that he can bring himself to leave his past experiences behind and unreservedly trust that person.

There’s also no guarantee that such a magical alternative exists. (There’s no guarantee that the flower plan would have succeeded either, but at least there was a plan: a clear target—the body count—and a known rocky road to get there. In contrast, the existence of a magical alternative is but a mere hope, a major element of uncertainty. In addition, I expect that Hua Binan did quite some research on magical methods that might help his people get home in canonverse, or at the very least always kept an eye out for them, because why not? If there were another more effective alternative out there, he’d be the first to go for it. But it appears that he didn’t find anything better.)

If years pass and no other magical method has been found, what should Hua Binan do? Go ahead with the flower plan that’ll take decades to come to fruition, or go down the emancipation campaign route that might take centuries? As time spent on searching for an uncertain route and (potentially) switching plans later on increases, the risk faced by the Butterfly Bone people in hiding (risk of hiding spot being discovered, risk of recapture, whether wholesale or individually) increases. Would you feel safe hiding in a temporary bunker or would you rather quickly get to a country where people won’t kidnap you on sight?

“Sisheng Peak could have helped hide and protect the Butterfly Bone people!” That’s what Hua Gui thought about Tianyin Pavilion. Is it surprising that after that, the Butterfly Bone people were like “no, we want as few sects as possible to know about our community in hiding”?

Regardless, a third-party observer might say that the magical and/or campaign routes are a bit better because they’d kill less innocent people than the population of two worlds. But if the ones who’ll face the long-term uncertainty and risk in this plan are your family members, people you care about, your community—you might think differently about the urgency of obtaining freedom and the cost involved. Or maybe not; maybe certain moral principles you hold dear come first. Both views make sense.

So yeah. It looks like Hua Binan had alternatives, but they’re easier said than done. All routes are problematic when it comes to implementation.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he thought thoroughly about the pros and cons of all his options, because that’s what normal people would do, before going with the nuclear one.

Perhaps if we did some sophisticated cost-benefit analyses, we’d disagree with his decision and conclude that there was an objectively best route that he didn’t take. (That’s making the major assumptions that our analyses don’t require in-depth knowledge about 2ha magic and society, and that there is an objectively right answer to a trolley problem…) But we don’t have to. It’s fiction, so to me, it’s sufficient that there are understandable considerations pushing Hua Binan 0.5 towards his choice (and Shi Mei 2.0 towards his); those considerations don’t have to be perfectly unassailable. After judging that they do make a not-inconsiderable amount of sense for someone in his shoes, I’d like to sit back and admire Hua Binan’s plan for being absolutely batshit crazy, galaxy-brained, and “successful”, as in, it mostly achieved what it was meant to. Everyone say thank you to Hua Binan/Shi Mei for driving the 2ha plot.

*diabolical wretched laughter*

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More 2ha musings here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/25990618/chapters/63187981

[tartaruz]

Introduction post I guess?

Hi there. I'm Tartarus. I go by some other names though and kin names are always okay but Tartar(us) is preferred

INTP-T.

I'm a digital artist and a dumbass! Yeah.

He/They

Gay gay homosexual gay.

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