#2025 MotoGP Silly season

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Well Martín has just said he only will ride for a factory and doesn't matter which factory.

And Pol has just said it could be an Honda and that there's no space for him in KTM unless it's in GasGas

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New crime added

Weird ass moves:

Weird ass mf guilty of this crimes:

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Does it say Prima Pramac?

Is this how why find Fermín is going to ride in Pramac? (In Jorge's seat?)

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I feel like Ducati are just shooting at their feet at this point. They lost Enea, they nearly lost Marc and now they are going to lose Martín. And who knows, they might lose Marc too if this issue is not solved quickly enough.

So Fermín at the Ducati seat for 2025?

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I was asked by @milla8920 to write a things you said when you were drunk for Pedro and Fermín. Where here it is. It's set after the 2023 Valencian GP. Tw: mention of alcohol

‘You're fucking annoying' it's what Fermín heard when he opens the door of his room at the motorhome hotel. It's pretty late, and he wasn't expecting anyone, so it comes as a complete surprise to be greeted like this.

‘Good evening to you too' responds. The SpeedUP rider can't believe what his eyes are seeing, the recently crowned Moto2 World Champion is in front of him, and he's drunk. ‘And why am I annoying?' He doesn't really want to know, but he is curious why the other rider is here, instead of at his motorhome or celebrating with his family or the team. It's also safer for the KTM rider to be here with him than elsewhere getting himself in trouble.

‘Because' Pedro moves the other rider aside to enter the room completely uninvited, where he makes himself at home and sits on the bed. ‘Because I'm the one, I won the championship, but everyone is talking about you and your spectacular end of the season. Or how you'll be a MotoGP rider, etc.'

'Right. I'm so annoying because I'm doing my best.' He sits next to the other rider on his own bed that has been taken over by the other rider. ‘Sorry for doing my job, I guess' huffs.

‘Yes, because you are always overshadowing what I do. Like when I won the Moto3 championship, but people had to talk about your season in MotoE and Moto2 and your own Championship. No matter what I do, you'll be there too' complains.

Fermín sighs, not knowing how to respond to the drunk rambles of the other rider. He also doesn't have the heart to kick him, despite knowing he has to get up early for tomorrow's test. It doesn't matter what the SpeedUP rider wants to do, Pedro is already lying on his bed.

‘Look at the bright side, you won't hear about me next year' tries to console Fermín. It's a way to calm and placate the drunk rider.

‘Hell no. You'll fight for the championship and your name will be in every team principal's mouth during the silly season as everyone wants you'. Pedro turns his head to look at him, ‘unless you have already signed with Pramac. Did you do that?' Fermín doesn't answer, he just lies next to Pedro in the narrow space of the single bed. ‘Oh, you did, bastard. You will ride that sweet Ducati in 2025' decides Pedro, who is pouting.

Fermín can only laugh at that. It's been so long since he saw the other rider this relaxed and with a pout. ‘I didn't sign with them, at least not yet' explains, but they both know that doesn't mean he couldn't do it tomorrow or in the near future. ‘Look, you are drunk, and in my room, let's sleep like when we were kids, okay?' Proposes. In reality, the SpeedUP rider is terrified to send Pedro out alone. He doesn't know what type of troubles he can get if he goes like this around the paddock knocking on doors and searching for troubles.

‘But I don't want to sleep, and we are old now, and you have López' rambles the shorter rider. In the way it's said, it's like one single word that takes a while for the SpeedUP rider to understand. The lower lip is pushed further forward even more, showing his displeasure.

‘Look, even if we're older, we still need to sleep and that doesn't mean we can't share a bed, besides, there's nothing to worry about, Alonso won't bother us. He is out there celebrating with Jaume' as he responds, the taller rider is moving around to prepare the bed so they can go to sleep.

‘He’s an idiot,’ yawns the KTM rider, ‘I’d prefer to celebrate with you rather than Jaume. He’s boring, and you are fun to be around’ says nonchalantly as he crawls under the bedsheets. It’s a tight squeeze, but they managed to fit both of them in the single bed.

‘I thought you said I’m annoying’ reminds the taller rider with a smile on his face. He is looking carefully at Pedro’s face, trying to study him and making sure he’s okay.

‘You’re, but you’re also my annoyance’ yaws again the shorter rider. Despite Pedro saying he doesn’t want to sleep, he’s the first one to fall under Morpheus' spell. Fermín stays away for a bit longer, making sure that the KTM rider is okay.

‘Ugh' groans Pedro as soon as he opens his eyes. His head hurts like he has been tumbling around the gravel trap for hours without a stop.

‘Your head hurts?' Questions whatever his head is resting on. It takes a while for the KTM rider to register that he isn't sleeping with his head on his pillow, blame it on the alcohol in his bloodstream or how sleepy he is at the moment. However, as soon as he notices it, he figures his head is resting on a man's chest that he is too familiar with.

‘Shut up, I want to go back to sleep' closes his eyes again, while Fermín laughs at him and the situation. None of them move a bit, even if they know the younger needs to prepare for the Moto2 post-season test and Pedro is required at the Tech3 garage.

‘You can stay if you want, but I need to get up. I have a test to attend' reminds the SpeedUP rider. With more groaning, and with his eyes still closed, the shorter one moves his head from Fermín's chest to the pillow.

‘Have you been told how annoying you are? Because you're a pain in the ass' ask the MotoGP rider while hugging the pillow. It's too soft for him to go back to sleep.

‘You did it yesterday, but you also told me I'm your annoyance, so I took it as a compliment'. Pedro doesn't need to look at the other rider's face to know he is smiling. ‘But as I said, you can stay for as long as you want, just leave the key in my office or give it to Héctor later'. The young one is already ready to leave the room and go back to his team.

‘Or maybe you can come later by my motorhome and pick it yourself’ Pedro is now fully awake and watching the other rider at the door. ‘You know, if you ever need a space to disconnect and hang out you can go there’ proposes. ‘Or we can share the space’ the KTM has thrown himself out there, without knowing how his advances would be received or interpreted.

‘Sure, but make sure to have enough space’ even if it’s unsaid, both riders know it’s about the bed and not a bigger motorhome with a second bedroom.

Fermín is already leaving the room, so Pedro has to scream ‘but López isn't allowed inside’. The SpeedUP rider’s giggles can be heard, even if he hasn’t responded to that. Or at least Pedro didn’t hear anything with the door being closed.

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I think that all of this is DAZN's fault. They were playing an interview with Marc when they were getting ready to have one with Martín and he listened to it.

In the interview Marc said that he had several meetings with Ducati and the management (I can't remember if he said that he was on those or if it was only implied). Also that everything he had asked had been delivered or accommodated. After hearing that, Jorge behavior changed. he was more serious and uncomfortable.

Honestly it was a simple mistake of putting that interview when they were getting ready to do another. But it showed Jorge how different their situations and how Ducati was treating them. he had had only 1 meeting and he wasn't present. He had been complaining of vibrations until recently and Ducati said it wasn't their priority .

And sorry you can't call that fumble. He told Ducati he wanted the Factory seat and he deserved it, and Ducati had been toying with him for a long time. So if he really did that. Bravo. Bravo for actually growing a pair and not waiting for those cunts to kick him. Him moving shows he had more options and that maybe Ducati and their management is not the centre of MotoGP's world

take this with a pinch of salt, but here what it says:

internal sources says that after the sprint in mugello jorge went straight to dall’igna to demand an answer about the 2nd seat choice. gigi ofc wanted to wait until assen. they ended up having a fight, and that’s when gigi said that marc was ducati’s choice. ???

that’s why jorge was very nervous on saturday, and that’s why dovi said something about hearing “not very nice” rumors.

martin practically fumbled that seat.

they’re also sure about enea ending up in gasgas (im gonna kms)

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Aprilia scores big in Silly Season! In a surprise announcement, they announce that Jorge Martin will jump from Ducati to the RS-GP in 2025 - we talk about how the deal happened, and whether it was a good move!

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Do you know how all of Tumblr though Fermín to Gresini if Pramac goes to Yamaha? Well Jove says is more likely to go to VR46.

And apparently he has details of the contract and Ducati is already playing with him. Jové affirms that his contract i 2025 with a bike to Ducati's discretion (Fermín say he was told a 2025), but in 2026 it's a 2026 bike

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Yes to Suzuki. Please I need it 🙏

But instead of Kawasaki, who is in a deep hole in WSBK at the moment, can I suggest BMW that is thriving? They can even bring Toprak with them.

Genuinely though what’s gonna happen next? Suzuki come back and take Joan and Alex back? Kawasaki appear out of nowhere and steal Fabio? Pecco says fuck it and goes to Honda? My brain is fried

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I figured why Mack is going to KTM. He wants to be babied by Dani. He figured that going to Tech3 will mean Dani will be his babysitter.

Or maybe is because he wants to always be able to call Dani and ask for advice

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I love and I agree with Daniel's analysis on how the Ducati mess developed. Only 2 people won, Marc and Dall'Igna and the rest is collaterals

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What do you mean Sasaki might go back to Moto3?! No just no. Please no.

If this is true it proves me that the Master Camp VR46 is there to just destroy the carrers of the Asian riders. They give opportunities and cuddle the European riders (that don't need it) and they kick the Asian ones after just 1 season, not giving them the opportunity to learn the track and bike properly.

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Wait if Ai is going to Trackhouse, this means Oliveira goes to Pramac?

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So Franco is saying that riding for Vr46 would be like closing a circle (and of course Valentino will keep the seat for him), and there have been rumors that Diggia has chosen to stay with Vr46 (usually reliable source). Uccio said that they really want to keep Diggia and also that next year they’ll have one GP25 and one GP24 and that Ducati will only produce three GP25. So this would mean that Fermin will ride alongside Alex in Gresini for next year even if Gresini isn’t the factory supported team

Hi there anon 👋👋👋👋

I think I agree with you, but I also don't trust Ducati at all.

For me it was a given that Franky was going to go to VR466 once Pramac was going to Yamaha. There's no way in hell Vale will let Franky go back to Yamaha after the way he went out. Or the lack of relationship with Fabio or the way Franco pestered Yamaha or the way he showed how much he didn't want to be there. So Franky to Yamaha was a no go. I don't think Yamaha would have proved it either. I know that Pramac now has the control on who they put in the bikes, but usually satellite talks with the factories, so Yamaha would say they don't approve.

Now Diggia to stay in the VR46 makes sense, because it gives the team some stability. They don't need 2 riders to get used to the team, they just have one. Also because Diggia was hand picked by Ducati to be there, and it's probably the reason that VR46 is getting the 3rd GP25. Now I don't know how far the negotiations are, because I think Ducati was involved last time and this time is just Uccio, Pablo, Diggia and the manager, so no Ducati banking there. I also read that Diggia would like a role on development/close to the factory, and I don't know how much Ducati will let him, so the Yamaha is still an option. And Fabio said it himself, he has more than 1 option (3 in fact, one which we don't know anything).

Now about Fermín, if the above is true, then yes, he's going to the Gresini team, but I do remember Pablo Nieto, VR46 team manager, say that they actually want Fermín. And this is not something new, last year they pushed, hard, very hard and got cockblocked by Ducati and Luca Boscoscuro. Nieto also said and they won't make the decision until the break. Also he's not the one who will decide, nor Uccio, it's Vale the one who has the last word in this so who knows. Fermín said he doesn't care between Gresini or VR46, but he likes/feels like VR46 is his home (it was in Assen) (Also ironic he said that when he's a Marc fan, but whatever)

Now lets go to the bike. That is a freaking mess. At first it was said Fermín would have the GP2024 and the GP26 for 2026 year, then in COTA Fermín was told by Ducati he was going to get the GP2025. I do believe him because Ducati is tricky and likes to play mind games with all their riders, and if the said 'we only have 4 one one is for the rookie' they could make riders panic and rush the decision for shitty/bad/worse conditions. But here comes Marc, who by not playing the game, he screwed Ducati, so they don't have that leverage card, or that pressure anymore. There's no official satellite team, and no team has the GP25 exclusivity any more. So the GP2025 is for the one with better negotiation skills or the one who plays Ducati game the be Fermst.

So I've been hearing that Fermín's contract with Ducati is 1st year a bike to Ducati's discretion and the 2nd one with the official bike. I do remember reading at first that for the 2025 season it was going to be the GP24, and maybe they aim to give him the GP2024 as it was first planned. But then again, they can use Fermín as leverage with other teams, like if you keep him and assume his salary, you get the GP25 bike, which is something I think Ducati is capable of doing.

And the last part, about Gresini not being factory supported is not actually true. Ducati has his own engineers there, and they do treat their satellite teams ferly okay, and if Fermín goes there and the team doesn't get the GP25 I think they will demand more support to level up the field with VR46.

Now this is personal, and people might not agree with me, not I have anything to back this, but I don't understand why Fermín is not getting the GP25. I know he's a rookie, well other rookies had gone to Pramac and got the factory bike (Bagnaia and Martín). I also feel it odd because he will get the GP24 but then move to the GP26, so either Ducati already know that the GP25 is not going to be a good bike or suit him, or they want to screw him. I mean I already know they have screwed him because:

a) 2 + 2 year deal, which probably says he can move to the Factory in 2027, but then Ducati won't honour it because that is what they told Martín, and look where he is.

b) He's a Ducati rider and Ducati is already saying they won't pay him. They literally said that they will only pay 2 riders, and Fermín has a contract with Ducati Corse, so whose paying those 300.000 euros? (Probably more due to the pole, podiums and win bonuses they get, but still).

c) It's Ducati. it's in their nature to be an ass to their riders (points at Casey, Andrea, Jorge, Andrea again, Danilo, Miller, Enea, Martín, Zarco).

For me it's also difficult to see why if Fermín is going to Gresini the GP25 goes to VR46. Fermín is getting the official bike next year, so wouldn't it make sense for him to go to the 'official' satellite/the satellite with the official bike? But as I say this is just personal

Do I agree with you? Yes, but until everything is closed, I won't trust anyone because we are talking about Ducati

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Okay so Orotlá moves to Moto2 is because the team expected Ai to move to MotoGP, and now, apparently both riders are going to MotoGP?! Or at least that's what DAZN said Friday