#... when there's simply nothing there. laios is in the dungeon for two reasons: to eat monsters and save his sister.
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untitledgoosegay · 10 months ago
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i'll strangle you or i'll kiss you on the mouth
#dungeon meshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#KABRU/LAIOS KABRU/LAIOS KABRU/LAIOS#FOAMING AND FROTHING AT THE MOUTH#kabru is so used to everyone having layers. hidden motivations. façades. it's the way he sees & interfaces with the world#he approaches other people the way laios approaches monsters#& so he projects those things onto laios because everyone else he's studied has had them (most people do!) and flounders when laios doesn't#and that terrifies him; horrifies him; if he can't suss out what laios's Actual Deal is then laios must be inhumanly good at obscuring it#... when there's simply nothing there. laios is in the dungeon for two reasons: to eat monsters and save his sister.#& by the same token he also can't *communicate* with laios because every interaction for kabru is a calculation#on a level deeper than even kabru realizes; kabru makes himself whatever he needs to be to get what he wants from a given person#& again. he flounders bc laios is opaque. laios gives kabru nothing to reflect himself in#laios can't be maneuvered or manipulated because laios wants two things: to eat monsters and save the people he cares about#and in some ways kabru isn't wrong to be unsettled by laios. the man truly doesn't care about people or personhood on any principled level.#not in any malevolent way but overall he approaches other people the way kabru approaches monsters#he doesn't understand them; they unsettle him; he's not good at engaging with them and he doesn't like doing it#apart from the few people he's decided he likes#& when kabru is most desperate -- when kabru NEEDS laios to listen -- it takes this clumsy stumbling process#while kabru tries to unpick the layers of himself; every calculation he's made & every rationalization & complex that's guided him#& in the end laios still can't be swayed. but he does listen. he understands#that kabru WANTS him to understand -- & that kabru wants laios to understand HIM#... and. actually i don't think that's something either of them has had before#ANYWAY. THANK YOU OP IM HOWLING. I LOVE THE THEM
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rei-caldombra · 9 months ago
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Delicious in Dungeon - First Impressions Review
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This is based off the first 3 episodes of the anime and does contain spoilers. Please be aware that I have not read the manga and am not spoiled. 
I actually got to watch the first 2 episodes of the anime live at Anime NYC last year. It also came with a sampler manga volume that includes a bit of the first volume of Dungeon Meshi. I’m glad they gave this out, this is a cool and unique item. It was nice being able to look at the manga art while waiting for the panel to start, so then I could compare it to the anime. I think the visuals match the manga very well and think both look great. I think there may be slight differences in facial expressions but nothing notably different or anything I would notice if I was not intentionally looking closely while writing this. The visuals of the anime are very high quality. The animation and art are clean, detailed and smooth. 
I like the intricate details of monsters. The mollusks in the armor in episode 3 are fantastic and easily my favorite part of the show. This is creative, unique and fascinating. This was completely unexpected. It is so interesting and inventive. This took a classic fantasy enemy and explained it in an entirely new way. If they can pull this off every episode, I would be ecstatic. I hope we get to see more reimagining of classic creatures on top of one's original to the series. 
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I also enjoy the cooking aspect of the show. It's very satisfying to watch. I do like very detailed cooking and eating animation. I think the show is at its best when it presents an interesting creature followed up with an interesting way that they are cooked. Again, this is done well in episode 3, where we see the multiple ways that the living armor could be cooked. 
Another specific moment I loved was the detailed look into traps in the dungeon. Traps in any kind of dungeon-like structure are a staple, but usually they are breezed past as the characters avoid them. It was great seeing how these mechanically function. And even greater to then see how these traps can be used to cook food. This is another time where Dungeon Meshi does something truly unique and inventive.
It’s also decently funny. I do not think it’s laugh out loud funny, but there’s good jokes. I do think Marcille’s reluctance may get a bit repetitive if it keeps getting leaned into so hard but hopefully it won’t be too bad if we continue the same pattern of each episode featuring a new monster or two that they show us how to cook. I am totally down if it primarily wants to continue the trend of creature cooking of the week for now. 
When it comes to the characters, Laios is the main one I have much to say about. I think he is a solid main character. He is pretty straightforward but with the funny flair of being concerningly fixated on eating dungeon creatures. 
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It creates lots of great rapport between the characters, and I am totally up for this simply being a weird hyper fixation of his. I enjoy when writers embrace characters having weird specific passions like many real people do. I think there is potential for there to be some more depth to him through his responses to his sister being in danger, but sadly I do not think that element is being hit properly, at least not yet. I hope going forward we will get more perspective from Laios on his sister that makes me care more about her and them as a family. 
The previous point is a good transition into my primary gripe. I think the main premise of saving Falin clashes with the tone of the show. You’d think they would be rushing to save his sister but it does not come across that way at all. And I do not feel like this is out of caution for moving through the dangerous dungeon or any reason along those lines. I understand that the dragon probably digests slowly but it still doesn’t change that this is between life and death. Falin being in danger does not feel very relevant. A lot of the time it feels like they are taking their time and enjoying themselves. Which is not fundamentally bad, but feels strange when the reason for them being there is to save the main character’s sister from dying. It feels so irrelevant that I genuinely forget that she existed for a time. With the general tone and content I think a serious motivation like his sister being in danger isn’t needed as a plot point. They could just want to finish where they failed, and Laios just wanted to go through it but be able to cook the monsters this time. And I think nothing would need to change. I think a simpler and less serious motivation would be better. A more dramatic plot like someone slowly dying would fit better if the series seemed to have more intent on being dramatic. But I do not see many attempts at that so far. Even at the very beginning when they realize she is down there we do not see much emotional expression. It seems focused on just having fun with its concept of cooking in a dungeon. Which is totally fine, but for me this creates a very poor tone. If I want to just be invested in the cooking and adventuring then I do not see the purpose of Falin being slowly digested being in the back of my mind while they relax with some food. If I am supposed to care about Falin then it doesn’t feel right to see the characters spend time and effort just to test if they could use trap oil to safely fry something when she is being digested by a dragon. For me there is clear tonal whiplash that harms my investment in the show. 
I will definitely continue watching as I am enjoying the fun adventuring and cooking. Hopefully the tone will be improved as we go forward. The anime is already slated for 24 episodes so we have a lot ahead of us. I do like the basic episode structure of “creature of the week” but I do worry about it continuing to be interesting for 24 episodes 24 weeks in a row. But I think and hope we will get some more dramatic elements eventually and more focus on Falin being in danger while they take their time cooking. Thank you for reading!
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