#* THREAD : KAUL HILO.
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jadebone · 9 months ago
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          "     we should be good people,     "     everyone laugh  !  he's making a joke.  there's nothing good about anyone who steps foot inside the skyscraper his grandda owns,  and everything that one of the kauls sets their sights on dies.  not his fucking problem,  if he had any say in it.  hilo grins,  all sharp teeth dripping bitter sarcasm.     "     wouldn't it be nice to wake up in the morning and not feel like a fuckin' piece of shit  ?     "
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               FOR BRADBAKSHI  @bakshiis  ,  FROM  HILO     !
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kikuism · 2 years ago
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just finished jade legacy
#wow. that was a Journey. the passage of time in this book made me so emo.....#watching them grow older and the CHILDREN GROWING UP SO FAST really got me :(#so much happened in this book it was insane but so so good and so satisfying#ayt madashi had me on my toes until the very end she is Ruthless#im never getting over ru :((( that made me cry. hated that so much it was JUST AN ACCIDENT and that makes it so much worse#seeing the kaul children as literal babies and then slowly growing into full adults over the course of the book just#made me that much more attached :((#also not me and my delusional ass somehow hoping anden and lott would become a thing hgkshfjdhf#ah well#ALSO BERO. this man is fucking cockroach. i love it. he was definitely one of the reasons this series was so enjoyable#love how he thought of himself as part of this grand myth bc of everything he's been through#it's so interesting to see this grand epic story of the kauls play out alongside this tiny thread that is bero’s life#he was such a big part of it but at the same time.....he was just a nobody#the part that really made me so so heartbroken and burst into tears was when#hilo was standing over lan and kehn and tar’s graves :((( his brothers all gone.....i cried#i could Feel how exhausted he was but how he had to pull himself together for the clan#AND THEN RU :((((((#idk man i have many thought none of them are coherent and i just finished a 700 page book but it's been an INCREDIBLE journey#im so glad i read these books. wow. i never ever expected to get THIS invested.#i haven't had such visceral reactions to a book in a long time. it kind of felt like coming back to life#like the way i used to read back in high school :')#anyway. how can i move on from this series!!! i feel like i need to let it sit with me for a while before starting anything else#if you have any suggestions please share !!
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mvsicinthedvrk · 3 months ago
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i'm not doing a super extensive plot/starter call this time around, and i'll be banking on the event memes on wednesday 10/2 for most of my event threads.
but if you have a specific pairing or two you'd like to plot something out for, hit this plot call and i'll send you a dm to discuss details & we can work something out, and i'll get a starter or two queued for you for start-of-event.
**this is not a starter call! if you request starters without having plotted with me, i will not be writing them!! send me a dm with ideas and i will be happy to write starters, however!**
basic details below, but subject to change if better plot ideas arise during discussion--
muses who think they've lived in european-renn-style d.c. the whole time since arriving (& their job):
wei wuxian (has been living his best life as a farmer for the last few years) now closed for plotting/starters
xie lian (peddler who sells mostly junk <3)
he xuan (decided to settle in as a scholar/scribe)
sha hualing (has become a knight throughout her time here but also wants to invade/overthrow the castle) now closed for plotting/starters
dongfang qingcang (formerly imprisoned convict who has recently been set free; relatively pissed off about his lack of standing)
chu wanning (nobleman who studies this world's alchemy & invention/private tutor on the side)
qi yan (undercover as a prince on a diplomatic mission)
kaz brekker (basically still the head of the crows but renaissance version)
xiao chiye (still fully unaware; head of a castle's guard) now closed for plotting/starters
martin blackwood (npc howl's wizard's apprentice/servant)
muses who know something's up and that we've shifted in time/universe:
mo xi (tired of this nonsense)
feng yu (will be trying to stay calm and find other senators/government officials to get this sorted out)
kaul hilo (will not be dealing well with whatever this bullshit is)
zhao yunlan (dragons? nice. hey time to party it up in the tavern) now closed for plotting/starters
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terramythos · 3 years ago
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TerraMythos 2021 Reading Challenge - Book 27 of 26
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Title: Jade War (The Green Bone Saga #2) (2019)
Author: Fonda Lee
Genre/Tags: Fantasy, Urban Fantasy, Female Protagonist, LGBT Protagonist, First-Person (briefly), Third-Person 
Rating: 10/10 
Date Began: 10/14/2021
Date Finished: 10/26/2021
Having barely escaped destruction at the hands of the Mountain clan, the No Peak clan seeks to strengthen its position locally and abroad. As war breaks out beyond Kekon’s shores, international attention turns to the small island nation and its valuable magic jade supply. Jade can enhance one’s physical abilities when worn, making it a coveted weapon of war. No Peak, led by the powerful and canny Kaul siblings, must strike risky alliances and combat unexpected enemies to secure the clan’s future on the world stage. But the Kauls will also have to grapple with themselves and how far they’re willing to go to protect family, clan, and country. 
“You have to go where your enemies are,” Hilo said. “And then further.” 
Content warnings and spoilers below the cut.
Content warnings for the book: Depicted — Death, animal abuse/death, graphic violence, graphic sexual content, drug use/addiction/withdrawal/overdosing, racism, domestic abuse, suicide/suicidal ideation, sexism, torture, terrorism, self-harm. Mentioned — Colonialism, p*dophilia, r*pe, child abuse, warfare, homophobia.
Jade War is everything a good sequel should be. The stakes are higher, the scope is broader, the political machinations are more intricate and intense, and characterization both improves and continues to impress. While I enjoyed Jade City a lot, Jade War is a huge step up. Assuming Jade Legacy sticks the landing (which I fully expect it to), I can say that The Green Bone Saga is one of the most criminally underrated fantasy series of the last few years.
Full disclosure — I initially struggled with this book. The first third or so is definitely a slow burn. Lee introduces a lot of different plot threads that, seemingly, have little connection to one another. Hilo meets with a jade smuggler to negotiate a hostage situation. Anden gets effectively exiled to Espenia and struggles to adapt in a strange, foreign county. Shae meets up with her secret boyfriend and ruminates on her role in the clan vs her personal desires. Stuff like that. I found it a little difficult to connect with everything. But all that setup pays off big time— and several threads from Jade City come back as well. Small details and minor characters return in interesting ways that play with one’s expectations. When everything comes together in the  final act, it’s simultaneously satisfying and harrowing.
While Jade City focused on Janloon and the clan war between the Mountain and No Peak, Jade War elevates things to the world stage. Jade, found only on Kekon, enhances the martial abilities of people who wear it. It’s captured international attention as a potential weapon. When conflict erupts in nearby countries, Kekon finds itself caught in the middle as allies and enemies alike seek to procure jade by any means necessary. Add that to a longer timeline and the strained, tenuous peace between the two Green Bone clans, and you end up with a layered political conflict.
And boy does political intrigue take center stage in this novel. The last book had its fair share of politics, negotiations, and backstabbing. But like everything else, it’s on a whole new level here. Everyone’s playing the long game, and many chapters read as intense, manipulative chess matches. Though they’re fun to read, these stretches would lure me into a false sense of security. Then Lee would just gleefully blindside me with a shocking twist or development. There’s always a sense of tension reading Jade War, because one never knows when the shoe is going to drop.
The title is almost a misnomer, because the so-called “jade war” happens elsewhere in a foreign country. We never see it directly. The war we do see is fought in nontraditional battlefields— boardrooms, clandestine meetings, homes, etc. I’m almost—ALMOST— disappointed that Lee’s excellent fight scenes are less prevalent in this book. But honestly, I think this just enhances the ones we do get. In particular, there’s an intense fight about halfway through the novel, and it’s probably the best one so far. I’m avoiding spoilers, but it’s just stupidly good. Again, Lee writes action better than almost anyone I’ve encountered. Her descriptions and choreography are vivid and cinematic.
Characterization is on-point, both improving what I liked and addressing my criticisms from Jade City. Specifically, the Maik siblings get a lot of development, something I felt was lacking in the last book. I got a clear sense of Maik Kehn and Maik Tar as individuals rather than interchangeable background characters. Maik Wen gets lots of attention and a few perspective chapters. She ends up being the most important character outside of the main leads.
Anden also feels way more impactful as a character. My struggle last book was that he didn’t do much and felt a little wasted. But now that he’s a fish out of water and has to develop as a person outside of clan expectations, he matures quite a bit. His chapters add a lot of context about the world outside of Kekon, and I like how even Espenia has an unofficial clan structure among the Kekonese diaspora. He also has the most optimistic ending, which is a far cry from last book. His chapters seem almost at odds with the rest of the story, but, like everything else in the book, it all comes together in the end. It’s hard to pick a fave out of the three leads, but Anden comes closest.
But most of all, I love that Jade War explores and expands on the morally gray nature of the characters. Jade City touches on this a bit; often our heroes do questionable things out of necessity with an ends justify the means attitude. After all, Ayt Mada and the Mountain are cutthroat and willing to do whatever they can to undermine No Peak. Why shouldn’t No Peak do the same? The kid gloves come off in Jade War, however. The climax of the first act solidifies this— I won’t spoil it, but it’s a total shock that haunted me for the rest of the book.
The morally gray, violent nature of the story is often juxtaposed with the core theme of family. There are several kid characters who are obviously set up to be the next generation of Kauls. Hilo, despite his brutal nature in much of the book, takes to fatherhood with love and enthusiasm. He’s shown to be a compassionate and caring father figure, something he never had himself. But then you have one chapter where Hilo dispassionately buries a man alive to suffer a slow, agonizing death in jade withdrawal… then goes home and has a cute, meaningful scene with one of his kids. It’s horrifying, and there’s lots of examples of this throughout the book. The takeaway is that the two sides of clan life are intertwined… something the conclusion (especially Shae’s speech) drives home.
One last detail I enjoyed is that Hilo and Shae experience a reversal. Hilo, normally portrayed as the headstrong warrior archetype, shows his more duplicitous and politically cunning side. Meanwhile, Shae becomes more impulsive; she’s the one who jumps into a secret relationship and picks the most notable fight in the book. This is the opposite of their dynamic in the last book, yet it’s still perfectly in character based on their backstories. In Jade City, we learned the two siblings basically hated each other as kids, and even now they butt heads pretty often. The narrative doesn’t dwell on this much, but it’s interesting that the two are, at their core, pretty similar people.
If I have a criticism it’s that, again, I wish we saw more of the Mountain and its villains. Ayt Mada is such a fascinating antagonist, but outside of a few memorable scenes, we see very little of her directly. Nau Suen is also an unexpected treat (god, that one wham line), but outside of one chapter, he disappears until near the end of the book. As the Mountain and No Peak become more similar, and the line of morality continues to blur, I really want to see more of these characters. They’re not exactly the narrative focus, and I get that, but I think exploring them more could only strengthen the story.
That being said, Jade War was freaking awesome. I’m sad I have to wait a whole month for Jade Legacy to release, but I have high hopes for it. Definitely check this series out; it’s unlike any urban fantasy series I’ve read before, and its roots in martial arts and gangster stories add a lot to the experience. Mind the warnings though, because these books get pretty dark.
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silvershanica · 5 years ago
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Book Review: Jade War, Book 2 of the Green Bones Saga by Fonda Lee.
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Available in hardcover July 23, 2019
Its not uncommon in fantasy literature (at least in my experience) for trilogy series to suffer from “saggy middle syndrome”. That is, the second book in the series tends to slow down in both action and pacing in order to pull all the pieces together and set up for a dramatic third book. There isn’t really anything wrong with this approach, as it often leads to an amazing end of the series. That said, Fonda Lee’s Jade War, sequel to the award winning Jade City, is anything but slow.
Picking up where Jade City left off, Piller Kaul Hilo-jen and his Weatherman, Kaul Shae-jen are working to reestablish No Peak clan’s holdings within Janloon, and expand their power base on the island of Kekon and beyond. The world has learned the power of Jade and the Green Bones are no longer the only ones who can wield the gem’s awesome power.
Fonda weaves together an impressive amount of threads to create a rich and colourful tapistry of a story. A tale of family and honour, gangsters and power, following one’s heart and finding one’s place, Jade War will leave you satisfied in ways you never knew possible... and wanting more with every chapter.
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jadebone · 11 months ago
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          "     conway,     "     he calls out,  stubbing his cigarette out underfoot as the van pulls up to the antique shop by which he'd been waiting.  hilo isn't known for his patience, but to his credit, he's really been trying quite hard to keep it together.  desperate times.  he strolls up to the driver's side window and knocks on the glass, waiting for it to roll down.     "     you're late.  what the hell, man  ?  where were you  ?     "
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          @bloomifys  liked for a starter for conway  !
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mvsicinthedvrk · 8 months ago
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He doesn't miss the other's facial expression. There are far stranger places Hilo could put his jade, though admittedly there are far less odd places to put it too, if he went the route of just wearing it in jewelry like his sister. But he likes it close to the skin and feels like it's more powerful there, whether there's any scientific merit to that or not. "It's jade. I just said so," he points out. "And I'm saving my other two wishes until I make sure it's there." Just because someone snapped his fingers doesn't mean that the wish is actually fulfilled, and if it's not as much as he needs, he'll use the next wish on doubling whatever is there. And if the other's lying to him and just playing an elaborate trick, well then, the joke's on Hilo for thinking this was true in the first place-- but he can't help but believe in it, if only because he needs it to be true.
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one eyebrow raises in vague disgust as the other unbuttons his shirt, and her expression twists into sheer confusion at the sight of the jade embedded in his skin. howl admittedly is a little curious how the fuck that isn't hurting the guy, and what the fuck the point of it being there is, but he simply does not care enough to ask about it at the moment. though, okay, credit to the guy, he's definitely not stupid. why he wants so much of that so badly, howl could not care less, but they snap his fingers with an eye roll. "there, your vault is filled with... whatever the hell that is."
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