#(the next post from spamton will be when...

[dimeadozencows]

literally all of Ramb's dialogue.

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this post is an add-on to my Ramb essay, here's the full thing!

there will be some light analysis alongside the text boxes, but not too much, because this was originally just the first segment of the big analysis post, which i added for context and reference :]

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come have fun with me in text dump hell

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We first meet our guy at the very beginning of chapter 3, right before the first board begins. He stands alongside other new characters like Lanino, Elnina, an obscured Shutta, and Tenna.

I feel like it's important to mention that because we knew Lanino and Elnina since the Spamton sweepstakes, and going into this chapter we knew we'll meet Tenna, and at this point Shutta is hidden from us in a garbage can, Ramb is the first completely new character we get to meet. 

None of us knew we'd get to meet him or someone like him before the chapters were released.

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Not much to say about his appearance, except that he vaguely resembles a plugboy like the ones from chapter 2. although he’s distinct enough that it would be very understandable to completely miss it.

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“Kris, luv. Let's catch up in the Green Room…”

He only has one line, but as is expected from this guy, it tells us a lot:

He knows Kris's name

He feels comfortable enough to refer to them with a term of endearment

He already knows them

And he brings up a location in the chapter that we're already familiar with

He already makes us ask questions! It's obvious he'd know Kris since this dark world is their house, but they're apparently familiar enough for him to want to catch up with them.

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We next see him in the green room after finishing board 1! 

Here is where we learn his name! It's Ramb! You know, like the website address of the green room page from the Spamton sweepstakes! 

Back then a lot of people were speculating on what “ramb” means in relation to the green room, I remember specifically that Two left thumbs (yt) thought it was “-something- AM broadcasting” and variations of that, but nope, it was the name of the guy working there the whole time.

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Besides his name, we learn that he’s originally from the library (which confirms that he really is a plugboy like the ones from chapter 2), and that Kris and Asriel took him from there to their house.

(Interesting that no one in chapter 2 mentioned him though, not even a single fellow plugboy.)

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His next line tells us that he’s familiar with the cyber world denizens! Although we don't know if he knows them personally or not, because they’re the queen, her head butler, and the former star businessman, who would be known in the public. We also learn that Swatch used to have a mohawk (important).

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Jesus Ramb leave some exposition for the other characters

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Let's break these down part by part:

(all of these show up as number 1 for some reason-)

I think we can assume “that girl” means Noelle and not dess, since the two were playing make believe, a kids game, and Noelle and Kris are the same age while dess is older. Though i suppose it is possible, especially if dess happened to babysit Kris at some point

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So that's how Queen and King know each other! They were a part of a make believe game Kris and Noelle played as kids! I wonder how or if that game influenced them when their fountains were made, since Queen already favors Noelle from the very beginning of chapter 2.

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“Oh, it was chaos, CHAOS!”

Sound the alarms!! The current manlet quoted a previous manlet!! 

You'll come to see that this is one of MANY times that Ramb does something like this, where he says or implies something that makes you stop and point- it's a reference for sure, but in this game they're rarely just that right? He must know Jevil! 

(we’ll get to why that's a little more complicated in a bit, this is just the first thought that would come to a Deltarune player’s mind when reading this line :] )

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Ramb wondered how Noelle is and if Kris is still her friend! Based on how fast he retracts the question, maybe Kris made a face or something that let Ramb know they're not very close anymore.

He then adds something that's very reminiscent of Seam; how darkners never really change. Add that to the pile of question marks from before, we’ll deal with it in a bit.

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(buy something)

From this we learn that Tenna doesn't let his employees handle this dark world’s currency, points. Not even its only shopkeeper!

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(talk more)

“Don't you have anything better to do?”

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(nothing else)

My personal favorite line from him :]

It's such a feel good thing to hear! And it's true, all the darkners here have known Kris since they were a child, of course they would view them as a friend! I wanna believe that made Kris happy to hear, but in all honesty it probably made them feel worse…

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Before we move on to the S-rank room conversation, i want to add the z-rank version of the beginning of the one we just looked at;

When you come to the green room after completing a board, ramb gives you a different prize, ranging in value depending on the rank you got. 

I didn't include the line here because it's very generic (sweet of him to compliment Kris, but we already know he adores them, no need to push the 30 image limit any further) and they’re all identical from rank C to T. (as far as i know, do i look like i can T rank)

But I wanted to add z-rank, because it's unique!

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“Your rank… Z-rank. Well, I suppose you gave it a good try!”

Sweet of him to try to compliment us despite the cringefail.

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“Here, the gift…” “(* The giftbox was empty.)”

I wonder if the gifts are a requirement thing that ramb has to give us, and for Z-rank tenna just wanted to really drive it home that you're not doing this on his show!! (so dramatic, i adore him)

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“Tenna’s not too keen on that behavior… reminds him of a certain… y’know.”

The shade!!! There are a few times that ramb is shown to be a bit of a gossip, and I love that so much. Make fun of your boss and his ex its the least you deserve to do ramb

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“... That’s why HIS game’s a bit of a bust, y’see?”

“(just wait, i’ll show you something electrifying, i will…)”

 Ominous…! This is the earliest hint that ramb is a little more than just the guy who runs the green room bar.

Some people took “electrifying” as a threat… i dont know why to be honest lol. It's clearly meant to be taken as "I've got something really cool in the works”, but yeah, it is worrying since it's the very first time a player would see him being foreboding.

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That is the end of the conversations with him in the green room (after board 1), let's get into the one in the S-rank dressing room!

This is where the players impression of him and his significance would diverge based on if they got S-rank or not; if you didn't talk to him in the S-rank room, all he would be to you is the guy giving you prizes for getting different ranks and talking to you like an old friend. 

But if you do get S-rank, he and his purpose in the story become a lot more interesting.

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I find it funny that the second line here is where a lot of people realized he’s supposed to be British

Also, note the use of “big shot”.

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Ramb seems to be extremely confident in his assumptions about Kris, exclaiming that he knew that they wouldn't like Tenna’s games, twice.

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“Y’see, that game you been playin’? It’s not, EXACTLY, the original.” 

That makes a lot of sense! If you poked around while playing “the legend of Tenna” you’d notice a lot of oddities; blocked paths, secret doorways, ice textures in the water that tenna really didn't want you to see- 

It turns out that he took an old game and changed it to fit his vision of a simple, easy, linear story. And Ramb thinks that’s bland and boring.

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“But if I know Kris, and boy do I know Kris…”

Here it is again! That unshakeable belief of his that he knows exactly what Kris truly wants! He talks as if he knows them as well as they know themselves, and maybe he truly believes that.

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“Freedom.”

Sound the alarms!! The manlet said the line!!!! 

That's it! That has to be it! He seems to know the other secret bosses, he’s short, and now he literally said “freedom!” We're fighting this guy as he makes the air crackle with freedom by the end of the chapter 100%! This is the secret boss!!

Is what we all thought. :] Keep this line from him in mind, the meaning behind it is a lot simpler than we’d assume.

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“The ORIGINAL game. Where YOU decide what to do.”

He gives us access to the game, the version of it from before Tenna messed with it, and wishes us a fun time. 

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“I'll keep an eye out for Tenna” “... secret to Tenna, right, luv?”

Reiteration! For some reason it's very important that Tenna doesn't find out that Kris was given access to the original game.

I like that a part of Rambs personality is not caring about what his higher ups want, that seems to be rare for darkners.

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“Freedom’s just a thing for big shots.”

There's going to be a lot of alarm sounding okay.

That last line is so written to make us go “HUH??”. both freedom and big shot in the same sentence is just too much for anyone… It's so obviously there to make us believe that he’s the secret boss of this chapter, as so many of his lines do.

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[after you finish the game and exit the console room]:

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Funny, He was being weird and got no reaction from kris

I saw some people confused about what “you know” meant, but I think it’s very clearly that “freedom” he spoke of so much before

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Interesting how he doesn't question himself at all after not getting an answer from Kris. This guy is definitely confident, to a fault.

He also gives Kris the option whether to continue or not, showing that he's doing this truly for their sake and on their terms.

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[After board 2]

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Good ol’ English passive aggression.

I think this is one of the only times Ramb directly comments on Tenna as a person, not his games. Also guys he calls him an old man-

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Answering [eh]:

This one's a video because it plays a unique sound!

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The last line plays “snd_creepyjingle”! (the jevil door/key sound) 

(you can see my real time reaction hearing this for the first time lol)

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This is the only time Ramb gives us a direct hint that there's a secret in the S-rank room! And he only does it if you tell him that you aren't having a lot of fun playing Tenna’s games!

If you needed any proof that Ramb is doing this only for Kris's fun, here it is. He doesn't say anything if you tell him you're having plenty of fun on Tenna’s game show.

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Another line I adore. I don't know about you, but i tend to get swept up in the “i’ve got to do this” feeling when playing games sometimes, to the point where it becomes a chore and i'm no longer having fun-

It's a nice meta reminder from the game, that if it's starting to get to you, don't let it. It was created to be enjoyed, not to frustrate. 

And the fact that the game uses Ramb for this reminder is also telling of his character, and shows that he really does only want us to have fun, just like he says.

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Oh. 

He just admitted to wanting Kris to come back one day, then felt embarrassed he said that and dismissed it.

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The first thing Kris does when talking to Ramb is ask him if anyone was backstage when they were playing the game. 

Makes sense, this level was where a character in the game called them their name. It would be incredibly jarring to experience while thinking you're alone, and knowing that speaking characters have a person behind them playing the game too.

But Ramb seems to be unaware of such a person, saying that he was by this door the entire time and saw no one come in or out.

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And apparently Tenna is getting suspicious of anything happening backstage, and Ramb prefers to make the next level the last one, most likely to spare both Kris and himself from Tenna.

Yeah, how quickly he glosses over Kris's question makes him look incredibly suspicious. but you’ve got to remember, Ramb has unbreakable confidence in his beliefs. And if after setting up the game, he left the room knowing it was empty, and didn't see anyone come in, then no one was inside. It would be impossible.

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He's not oblivious, he does notice that Kris is in distress, and he asks them if they're feeling alright.

But maybe he got no reaction, or he felt like the question was presumptuous, because he quickly adds a self-deprecating joke. It isn't very normal to speak to a power strip, I guess- but he’s a darkner. 

He's an entire person with feelings and thoughts, he's more than just the object he is in the light world. He does this a lot, equating himself to his object form. Why does he talk about himself as if that was all he was? Is that something he truly believes?

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Before we move onto the last time we’ll see him, this part after the second level was completed has alternative dialogue, if you finish it without completing level 1 first;

If you don't do the first level, you don't have the ice key and cant unlock the door to northern light (meaning kris doesn't see the part with the white cloak, and doesn't get the shelter key.) the game ends at the area that's identical to the one from Tenna’s board 2.

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I mainly wanted to include this variant for Kris. because the level ended right there, they didn't see the white cloak, didn't get the shelter key, and didn't see the “you were used up” text. 

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What they just played was a standard, and maybe even a bit boring, old school style rpg. They did act violently, but they still regarded the experience as just "couldn't finish the level” when talking to Ramb. 

That's not me calling them evil of course- I'm pointing out that they just played a normal video game. What made this experience harrowing for them was everything after this, including the last level.

Think about everything past this point- areas we’ve never seen on Tenna’s game show, dungeons, palaces, and real world locations like the basement of queens mansion and the shelter- its curated to give Kris a horrible time.

But before this, it was just the original game from before Tenna messed with it. You know, like Ramb said.

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Something happens past this point! And with how real life places showed up in it, i dont think it was intentional.  

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(After tv world)

Before we look at this dialogue, it's important to mention that this only shows up if you haven't played both levels of the mantle game!! That's a very important distinction, because if you do play the two first levels, ramb begins to turn to stone in the hallway to the console room, and doesn't show up here

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Pippins jumpscare!!!

This guy ends up telling us a lot about Ramb, arguably more than we were told by Ramb himself. You might be hesitant to trust what this guy is saying, but remember! This is a story, this guy was put here for a reason, and that is to give us information. 

If there was a need to imply their word isn't trustworthy, then along with everything, they could have told us a big obvious contradiction to something we already know. But no, everything they say checks out. 

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Right from the start, we learn that even though Ramb was just a plug, Kris played with him like he was another toy. And that made him feel special.

(first of all, unimportantly, Kris I relate so much. I used to play with random objects as if they were toys and I never thought much of it. I hope they remember me as fondly as Ramb remembers Kris…)

secondly;

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“Mightve given him a bit of an ego”

This confused me at first. By definition, yes Ramb has an ego; as in a sense of self importance. He feels pride in being Kris's toy, and being able to give them fun and happiness (in the past, which he’s a little stuck in.)

But “having an ego”, the way it would be said casually, is a little different. It would mean thinking of yourself extremely highly, as if you were the best, as if everyone was beneath you and no one else mattered.

That's not really who Ramb is. His confidence stems from thinking he’s important to Kris, being sure that he knows them the best. He has a sense of importance, but he never really expressed a feeling of general superiority over the others, just acted like he knows Kris really well.

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“Wanna hear more?”

Answering [yes]

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He was condescending to the others by continuously bringing Kris up in their conversations. Always trying to make everyone think of them more, as if whatever they did wasn't good enough for them. 

Imagine an old toy of yours, feeling so loved by you, that up to now they always tried to make your other belongings be more considerate towards you and what would be best for you. We don't even know if Ramb was Kris's favourite.

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And since Ramb only talks about Kris, we don't know what he truly thinks of anyone else, only that he always brought Kris up whenever they spoke. But this attitude, which everyone felt was condescending, means that people started viewing him as egotistical.

Tenna wanted to get rid of him, but couldn't, so he gave him an obsolete job. The pippins, who came here from the unused classroom, just as Ramb did from the library, fit in fine. They found a place for themselves. 

Ramb didn't. in all the years he was here, since he was brought to the dreemurr home.

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“How about the usual”

That joke sounds familiar. 

Anyway, it looks like he did try to be friendly and get along with the others, at least at first. But maybe his reputation was already bad, or no one got his humor. 

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“Mixing drinks alone for himself” 

Some people took this as an alcoholism implication, and yeah maybe, but I choose to believe that with people not really liking him anymore, he just doesn't get customers. Yeah Tenna is not a perfect boss, but I doubt that he’ll let an alcoholic (who drinks on the job) run a bar, that would hurt his revenue as well as his image. 

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“he wasn't allowed to handle the points…”

When I first read this it immediately set off some alarm in my head, it's one thing for him to be an outcast, but disallowing him to handle money as a shopkeeper?? 

But Ramb himself mentions that Tenna doesn't like his employees handling the points in general, so that softens it a bit. Still not… great though.

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“No one will shed a tear for him.”

The line! When I read this in the spamton sweepstakes for the first time I thought it was extremely spiteful, but probably deserved for whoever “him” was.

Every darkner has a right to dislike Ramb, especially if his attitude wasn’t the greatest, but this is a bit much, no? 

I think it's more meant to let us know that literally no one liked him, he doesn't have a single person here that cared about him enough to cry for him once he was gone. That makes more sense to me than just a random very, very mean-spirited remark- because it just sounds like this one specific pippins hates his guts (and they're supposed to be a stand in for everyone that knew him)

Also, another interpretation of this I read in a yt comment- the shadow crystals are described as tears in chapter 4, and if Ramb was supposed to get a shadow crystal but didn't, it means that “no one shed a tear for him”.

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“Inside, he was probably stone already.”

Ho boy we’ll get into this one soon. 

This can absolutely not be taken literally, and just be there as another remark about how he never fit in, but we’ve never heard turning to stone being described like that. 

From the inside you're stone, no longer feeling or moving, but outside, everything is fine.

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(“Wanna hear more?”)

Answering [no]

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They're relieved that they don't have to talk about him anymore, probably ever again. 

Dimeadozencows fun fact!!! I am currently holding this pippins hostage.

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Instead of getting to see the standard prompt for petrified darkners; “Some kind of stone statue”, we get blocked by the pippins wondering what on earth we could want with him.

…huh.

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Now, let's get into [the big one.]

The conversation we have with him in the entrance to the console room, as he’s slowly turning to stone;

Again, important to mention, that this only shows up if you have played both levels of the mantle game, because if you did, he shows up here and not at his stand.

I also want to mention that while I only screenshotted the text boxes until now, he was very expressive throughout all the conversations. But in this one, he doesn't emote at all. Probably because he can't.

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It looks like he can't even see us from the phrasing and how he’s standing. He can't move to look at Kris, and counts on his intuition that it’s them.

One last implication that he’s a gossip, adorable and very awkward right now. 

Also, again, his belief that he knows Kris extremely well, and that they’re in agreement, shows itself.

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He set up the last level of the game for us, and was probably on his way out when he started turning to stone- but he’ll keep watch from here just like he did from outside the door. 

Well, as long as he’s still conscious enough to.

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He really can't move, even enough to unblock the entry. And he hates to ask Kris to shove his uncooperative body out of the way, thinking it's a bother for them.

I can't be the only one getting Ralsei vibes right?

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And Kris shoves him without our input.

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Only now can he actually see Kris, until now he just assumed it was them. That's why he exclaimed their name.

I didn't understand why he did this when I first saw this scene, because I assumed with how confidently he was speaking to Kris, that he knew it was them. He didn't.

And just like always, as if nothing was different or wrong, he wishes us a fun time.

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“I saw you make it, you know. The fountain.”

Hey guys? This is the first time we see a darkner acknowledge their creator and directly speak to them. 

Apparently, this entire time, from the moment Ramb saw Kris at the beginning of the chapter and asked to catch up with them in the green room, he knew that they were the one who created the fountain. 

He ponders if the reason Kris did it was because they wanted to have fun again, like they did when they were a child. 

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When asking Kris why they opened a fountain, thinking it was for fun, he got no reaction. Maybe the reason they did it wasn't because they wanted to, but because they were told to.

Also, Ramb’s self-proclaimed purpose, in here with us in the dark world (or generally in life) is to let Kris have fun.

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“Makes you think, was it all really such a good idea?”

This is the only time in this chapter that he questions himself, right before it’s all over. He wonders if this was actually worth it, for himself, for Kris, or generally.

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“Your mother. Your poor mother, what will happen if she wakes up…?”

I can't be the only one confused right? Why is it so important that Toriel doesn't wake up? That was something Tenna was incredibly concerned about throughout the entire chapter too, so much so that he started panicking when she just rolled over in her sleep.

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“... ah, what am I doing? A power strip, giving YOU a lecture…”

The objectifying!!! It sounds silly when we're talking about darkners, y’know, objects come to life- but it's been a topic in this game that they're people. With feelings!. That they deserve respect and love and to be treated like people and not just exist for their purpose to serve lightners.

Ramb is talking about himself as if who he is right now is just what he is in the light world, a power strip, and he’s lowly compared to Kris. Undeserving of questioning their actions.

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He seemed to understand that fun wasn’t why they opened the fountain! He’s actually asking for them to explain something instead of just relying on his intuition. Character development 2 and a half minutes before the character dies, you love to see it. 

(personally i'm a big fan of tragedy (if you somehow couldn't tell.) so i'm all for this.)

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"Mum's the word" is a British euphemism for "it's a secret". Kris probably didn't answer Ramb's question, staying characteristically silent, so Ramb assumed it's something they prefer to keep to themselves.

(THANK YOU @/longelevator !!!!!! (i had no idea what to make of this line, and it cleared it up for me :')))

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Now I'd like to get into some honorable mentions. While these lines aren’t from Ramb and they aren't very long, they're still very important when it comes to understanding his character and the oddities in his story

We’ll start with the dust bunny in the S-rank room, who gets a new sprite and new dialogue once the mantle games were beaten and Ramb disappeared:

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Well that's ominous. 

After the shock of the fight with Eram and the end of the mantle game, and the significance of our talk with susie, on my first viewing i didn't actually notice he disappeared- and then i saw this.

That is super weird, isn't it? Why does he disappear? What happens to him when we're too busy fighting eram to notice? 

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And of course, the conveniently timed 8 bit Kris, stopping the dust bunny from elaborating on Ramb’s fate. 

When the fight with Eram is over, 8 bit Kris walks away in the direction of the s-rank room, making it impossible to play any console minigame as kris from that point (like the one that leads to this chapter's egg room.) cool that it actually walks by the dust bunny.

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I’ll get more into their similarities in the next segment, but in short yeah; They both cling to the memories of the past, Kris's childhood and how things used to be, neither seem to be able to see much beyond it. 

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Although, Tenna's story ends with him letting go of the past, and finding a new home and life with Mettaton, while Ramb's story ends with him disappearing or turning to stone, never learning this adventure’s moral lesson. 

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And here's the main post again!

This was just the first segment (and the longest lol) and it was just lightly discussing his dialogue. The rest are all about analysis!! :] 

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[katamari-of-luv]

Every new Spamton Sweepstakes page I've found so far:

(Spoilers if you want to find them for yourself! If I missed something, feel free to add on!)

Clicking the "What's next?" link at the bottom of the main page takes you to /chapter3/, which simply reads "Not applicable." and has an ellipsis for a page title. UPDATE: Holding down the left arrow on your keyboard on this page causes the word "But..." to slide in from the right side of the screen.

Manually inputting /chapter1/ yields the same result (notably without the "But..." -- thank you rollingdanielle for pointing this out), while /chapter2/ reads "Applicable." instead. /chapter4/ has a red pixel slowly fade in at the center of the screen. Clicking that takes you to /chapter4/message/, which appears the same at first glance but actually contains several hidden links under the red pixel:

These link to one of two different six-second audio files: e.mp3 ("fading in" sound effect?) and m.mp3 ("fading out"?). I would love to hear it if anyone else finds a way to translate the "message". The placements of e's and m's don't appear to coincide with either binary or Morse code, but I could very well have missed something. Perhaps something Wingdings-related but I'm only a third of the way done with writing this post and that would be my fifth time pausing to puzzle out this one page. Maybe later.

UPDATE: HOLY SHIT. This comes from convobreaker on Bluesky's very informative thread. The layout of the audio file links correspond to a QWERTY keyboard, and the m.mp3 links match up to letters that can be unscrambled to spell /chapter4/thankyou/. The page is titled "How long did it take her to smile?" and presents you with two boxes to input text and a button to confirm. Pressing it with nothing in either box or anything but a valid email address in the first displays the text "Unknown contact." Pressing it with only a valid email address in the first box gives you the hint "She never smiled?" Filling the first box with an email address and the second with anything at all replaces everything with text reading "Thank you." Presumably the correct answer will send you a response.

On that note, /chapter5/ (titled "back") sends you here:

1 is unclickable, 2 takes you to d.mp3, a six-second drum and organ loop (that I could swear I've heard before-- can anyone identify it?) (UPDATE: Thank you to vividviolence and rollingdanielle! It plays before fighting Berdly for the second and final time in the Snowgrave or Weird Route, and may imply the "Applicable/Not Applicable" text refers to whether a Weird Route is possible in a given chapter.), 3 leads to ma.mp3, a warbling sound effect that fades out towards the end, 4 takes you back to /chapter4/, and 5 is h.mp3, a short acoustic guitar-like clip. It seems like manually inputting any "chapter" pages past 5 only takes you to room-dogcheck (they don't redirect, just display the little white dog).

Upon returning to the main page, clicking the "glitches and secrets Web Ring" banner, and continuing through to the /egg/ page via the "clues" link, a new link can be found embedded in the words "secret cats". /rain/ is another of Noelle's private journal entries, regarding the time she invited Catti over to play a "sillyriffic" Cat Petters minigame together. As per usual, she reminisces on seeing things in video games nobody else is able to replicate (but suspects Kris of knowing about it this time?) The "try it yourself" text leads to a playable version of this minigame at /rarecats/. The green dancing cats bouncing around the screen award points when clicked in accordance with the rarity scale on /rain/. An "angel wing" cat causes a stained glass window to appear onscreen and fade after a few seconds. Clicking that in time brings you to /windows/, a page titled "Aren't you forgetting something?" containing many instances of the same window sprite repeated over and over.

Each window links to a different combination of the same six words. Every page except one brings you to /room-dogcheck/. The correct combination, /lostwheretheforestwouldgrow/, leads to a page titled "ROOTS" which displays a blue tree that slowly floats up and down. It plays a single somber piano note the first three times it's clicked, then sends you back to /windows/.

UPDATE: Thank you to theyloy for tipping me off to this! Clicking the tree three times actually takes you to /window/ with no S. All the windows but one are now scrambled versions of the phrase /thepoorchildren/. Clicking and dragging to "draw" on this page, titled "Therapy", for long enough eventually reveals the red tree the man who gives you eggs hides behind, and clicking that links back to /egg/.

And last but not least, there's a new clickable area in /ramb/. The red desk at the front of the swanky, inviting green room now leads to /romb/, a silent set of wooden doors with the page title "No one will shed a tear for him." Clicking on them plays a door-opening sound effect and causes the screen to go black for a moment, then this text appears:

The text cannot be highlighted, and clicking either of the empty spaces plays the ma.mp3 sound effect associated with Chapter 3 via the /chapter4/message/ page discussed earlier in the post. This is wholly conjecture, but it may be of note that the spaces appear to be the right size to contain the word "egg".

UPDATE: Thank you once again to rollingdanielle! After clicking the door, but before the text appears, you can ctrl+A to click an invisible button floating around the screen. Doing so changes the page title to "You can never defeat us!!! Let's rumble!", plays ma.mp3, and then redirects to /chapter3/. This text could possibly be used in the Lanino and Elnina fight, as the speaker refers to fighting alongside at least one other person and "rumble" could be a pun on thunderstorms.

With that, I've listed off everything I know! Again, you're welcome to reply or reblog with anything I may have missed. Just one more month and Deltarune will be Tomorrow...

[lavb-b]

OPPY DEBUT!?

Starting with a….meme….

Started by yours truly @itsonlypolite !!

I initially didnt wanna talk about my design of him much here, but since im planning on posting this soon anyway i might aswell

So first order of business. Inspiration? Ill give you 59 cents if you can guess (More down below im so good at cutting off my posts)

Of course, @/itsonlypolite’s Oppy! Literally the FIRST voice design i thought of when i first heard that certain song that shall not be named- huge thanks to her for allowing me to use her designs for the video it was a BLAST. But yeah its iconic and really captures that Opportunist feel.

Next, I would also like to give a shoutout to @/oppykinnie’s …Oppy (LMAO) for mostly his mask and humanoid concept! Including the rattail and slick back hair. Their oppy chracterisation is SUPERB and i hope ya’ll will enjoy their next comics when they post wink wink

Lastly, of course its gonna be from utdr- SPAMTON!! Not much to explain here. Just spamton, his sleazy attitude, and his whole character. Only one key difference is while Spamton is shown to be projecting, My spamton here is the opposite (with intention.)

I’ll just have my doodles do the talking (and im terrible at words forgive me)

As you can see, his mask isnt static! Nor is his colours!

One keyword I always thought about while brainstorming him is “”Relatable””.

[lzunofficial]

Tenna Dreemurr Au / Kris knowing tenna their whole life Au (I really need a better name for this)

Following my last Post about this au. Im going to talk about Kris. Kris is 6 when they come into the Dreamurr Household. They have vocal cords issues and they don't talk much anyways.

That is, until they turn on the tv one night from trying to get the front door unlocked. The first thing they ever see on Tv is Tom and Jerry, but the tv switches itself to an educational program - kris is hooked.

The first thing Kris ever Shouts is "I LOVE TV" scaring the Dreamurr family. (They do not see how the antennas on the tv stand up like it was listening- but kris does).

They got into the dark realms specifically TV World. No one realized they could do this until it happened and Tenna didn't recognize Kris until he was face to face with them. (Dark worlds work a bit differently in this au than canonly it's more of a pocket realm but Lightners aren't supposed to be able to get it; kris is just odd).

Tenna is the Parental Darkner figure to Kris (with obviously his boyfriend Spamton who at that point had no clue how to hold a child so He held Kris with his arms straight out like "uhhhh what?" this made Kris laugh.

If Tenna can't take Kris somewhere because it's too dangerous Spamton will usually Kris-Sit. if both Darkners are busy Queen will Kris-Sit - this was a mistake on Tenna's part because Kris gets "corrupted" by Queen's humor (spamton shares internet humor too so its not 100% Queen's fault but Spamton isnt going to admit that).

Kris is 16 in the events of this Aus Deltarune which means there is 10 years of Kris and Tenna knowing each other. This causes multiple funny conversations. Tenna has a the Deltarune/Dreamurr family crest on the left side of his shell as well as a Trans Flag sticker both turn into Pins that are on his outfit (Tenna cannot take these off and wears them with pride now).

The Dreamurr also have a Wii in this Au that Susie ends up turning on when she comes over before they end up watching movies. Kris is very adamant on Susie wearing the remote strap (when they first got the wii Kris didn't wear it and the controller went flying and almost broke Tenna but luckily hit the wall behind the tv; Toriel and Asgore still do not know about this).

Every Darkner that cares knows that Kris is Tenna's little Human lightner - other than Ralsei who doesn't deal with the Monarchs/hasn't properly met them. It takes a while for Queen to realize it's kris cause well outfit change plus red soul.

Queen: Oh! Kris Sweetheart! i didn't recognize you you're so big! How are you? How's your Darkner Dads?

Susie/Ralsei/Red soul: DARKNER DADS!?

Lancer: Hah! I'm not the only one with dads!

Kris: I don't know. Haven't seen them yet.

Queen: Ah well. Internet been down so you're not gonna be able to get over there going through here.

Susie: WHAT!?

Kris: meeting Spamton for the first time and him not recognizing them: shit.

red soul: what? who is that?

Kris: *watching Spamton leave from their first encounter with him* That's one of my Darkner dads Spamton - though he wasn't like that the last time I saw him.

I think next post i will talk about Spamton.

[stringlessau]

IT'S STRINGLESS' 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY (+ early concept art compilation)

Posting this dumbass little video to start off the day since we have a lot of little gifts for our awesome community today.

One of those things is something i've been wanting to do for a very long while: posting a lot of the original concept art for stringless (since ive always enjoyed seeing other people's early concepts) some of these i have posted massively before, some are completely unseen, so it'll be fun

This one is the page that started it all, his design is at the same time largely unchanged and also completely different

All i have to say is that it originally said (regarding spamton and swatch) "they bicker like an old married couple" but then i thought about it and i changed it so theyre literally just married

Didnt mean to make swatchton, made it anyway lmfao

Right after that, i got working on neo designs, I wanted to make him really scary looking, the original concept was to make him look skeletal and generally for him to look insane and like he had been reanimated from the dead, but a lot of people had told me over time that they didn't really like the design, I was very defensive over it but I ended up taking criticism and i actually really like the new neo, it balances the uncanniness of the original design with the sleekness of my new art

Payton was a natural next step, without someone to sell the thorn ring there'd be no neo, so although his design visually stayed almost the same, he went through a lot of color revisions (thanks mostly to @maskedalterego, who helped me to nail his final color palette), he suggested the gloves, and helped me to balance the saturation of the design since really I've never had a good eye for color.

His final design, color wise, was just me experimenting using the colors of my sona at the time on him, which I was hesitant to do but was so happy with the palette that I kept it.

It's interesting that he was originally intended to be the pink addison (since he sells one of the snowgrave required rings), and the reason he ended up being the blue addison was corey beepington (and the eviction notice short which I have taken one too many concepts from), this still influenced me to make his outfit pink initially, which still is a huge part of his character design

That exact same night, I created concept art for Raster (weirdly, I was sure I created them before Payton, but it might be because I was generally uninterested in Payton earlier on), their design is also largely unchanged, I just got better with shapes and color, I also ended up changing their cheek markings after seeing some swatchton fanchild art by ne0nbandit

A first until now, the first concepts for payton neo were made on paper

I took very long on this design, and I only updated it every few weeks to make tweaks because I felt the concept was too good but my execution didnt make it justice

I'm very proud of how the design looks now, as of the latest neo redesigns, I feel I could finally make this idea justice

Swatch's design went through some last minute changes, I wanted to use this color palette for swatch to contrast with spamton, but decided against it, then i changed their hair to be longer, to make their Stringless design distinct from their regular Deltarune design

Historically, these two are pretty important, the first pieces of art I ever made featuring Rakhin's old design, when he wasn't part of stringless and I was just befriending rope (he made me Payton fanart first, fell in love with his style), the contrast is beautiful

Now to finish this post, here's some unseen Snowgrave route art I made over the time Stringless has been in development, they're all pretty quick sketches, but i love them nonetheless

Thanks everyone for the insane reception this AU has gotten, I haven't been feeling very good this whole year for a huge amount of reasons I can't get into, but Stringless and its community always helps me to remember why I do the things I do

Thanks for everyone's comments and everyone's kindness, thanks especially to @theropeaaa , for being the literal other half of this AU, without whom I couldn't have ever done the Stringless pages, @maskedalterego for helping me and listening to my ramblings since the start, @scamp-boxx for being this AU's biggest hype man (the first ever comment on the first spamton concept art was by them, and they helped me nail so much of the snowgrave route), @boykisserwoah and @weirdohno , for also being here from the start and making an absolutely insane amount of fanart oh my god, @gutamajunk , for motivating me to create Raster, and writing several story outlines on the first days of stringless that were the foundation for the pages, and diaryous milch and rory, our friends that have helped with character designs, story ideas, voice acting and have generally been instrumental to what stringless is today

THANKS EVERYONE <3

-Nick

[the-swaggy]

I FINALLY POST ABOUT MY DELTARUNE AU

(Fun Gang/$%&! Squad/Lancer Fanclub + Noelle refsheets & more info in desc)

(Read desc for infodump about my au if you wanna 😭)

The faded headshots next to each colored pic is their past selves from when the game took place

part 2: main & secret bosses Uh anyways au yap sesh starts below:

It's called Lost Pieces, and basically it's a deltarune au where Kris and Susie forgot about the prophecy and stopped going to Castletown & exploring dark worlds after they came back from the cyberworld— and then remember about it later when they are all Asriel's age & in college and stuff, and have to reinstill hope in everyone and reform the Fun Gang/@$%& Squad/Lancer Fanclub (in this au, it's called the Lancer fanclub).

Other info that I may or may not have briefly mentioned in the ref sheets/other random info:

(TW: mental health stuff, familial issues, charecter death, child abuse)

General: 

This au takes place after a true route (not a wierd route/snowgrave route, Noelle nor the others killed anyone.. exempt Spamton but like that was on accident 😭) (he is still technically around guys dw)

In Lost Pieces, Kris and Susie discovered the darkworld while they were in middleschool (they were 12-13yrs), Ralsei was around their age as well, and Lancer was two years younger than the three (10yrs). 

The lighteners first arrived in 2018, since that's when Deltarune came out. The events of chapter one took place on 12/11/18 and chapter two on 12/12/18. That was the last day Kris was in the darkworld— however Susie's last visit was in 2020. She didn't visit super often, but would try for once a month.

Worldbuilding-specific stuff:

The town that Kris and Susie live in is in the northern midwest of the U.S.

In Lost Pieces, the darkworld have different names— The darkworld that contains 'Card Kingdom' is called Kaardarke (pronounced "card-ar-kay-"), The Cyberworld is technically called 'Cybertopia', but nobody really calls it that anymore.

Each darkworld had their own offical language before The Knight showed up— after that, they all switched over to the language that the knight spoke. That's the only reason that Kris and Susie were even able to understand the darkeners.

Each darkener species is bound to the world they came from (EX: Maises to the Cyberworld, Hathy to Kaardarke), but before the knight created each world's respective fountains, they could crossover into eachother's worlds using The Pure-Fountain in the then-empty Castletown as a portal (This was because the spare classroom used to have a small computer lab). Only after the fountains in each world were created, they couldn't crossover anymore due to the energy from the opposite portals turning visiters to stone. Eventually the computer lab was removed from the spare classroom and all of the old supplies were moved to the library. Darkeners who have one parent from each of the two darkworlds are bound to the world that they spend the most time in, which is why Lancer was bound to Kaardarke rather than Cybertopia.

While The Cyberworld uses a lot of more-lightworldish concepts, such as the months being January-December like they are in english-speaking countries & understanding social refrences (like how Queen understands lightener internet humor, and how Addisons understand how buisness works, like how a lightener would)— Kaardarke is a lot less connected to the lightworld. They had some vague connections through back when Cybertopians could travel there, but lost a lot of them during the time since then. They have their own calender system, social pyramid and their society functions very differently than Cybertopia's, or the lightworlds'.

Darkener species list time!

First up is Kaardarke:

Hathy

Rudinn

Clobbes (pronounced "claw-bes")— the clubs, basically think of Clover 

Tribril (pronounced "trib-rill")— the spades, basically think of King and Lancer

Bloxers

Jigsawra— the puzzle piece lookin' dudes, basically think of the tutorial masters & jigsawry

Rabbick

Chescheckes (pronounced "chez-check-ees")— the checkers guys (C-Rounds & K-Rounds) and Mr. Elegance/Mr. Society

Starwalkers— the starwalker birds .......and of course nobody could forget about my guy The Original   Starwalker

Species list for Cybertopia:

Tasques

Swatchlings

Pluggids— plugboy, werewires, werewerewire technically

Maises

Poppups

Addisons

Ambyu-Lancers

ViroViroKuna

Musiks— basically, think of Sweet, Cap'n & K_k of whatever their names are 😭

Mascottics— everyone else, (basically the thing about Mascottics is that they are all unique)— think Nubert or sum idk

Okay no more species lists, back to notes.

The knight-made fountains can cause darkeners to have vivid nightmares and visions if exposed to them closely for a long period of time. It can influence their behavior too (canon).

The knight showed up in Kaardarke at some point in the late 90s, and in Cybertopia in 2008

Kris: 

The player stopped controling Kris after they came back from the Cyberworld, and seemed to fade out of existance. Kris was left being unable to make desisions for themselves for awhile afterward, since they were so used to the player doing it for them. They also had memory issues after the player left, and barely remembered anything about the darkworld.

Now that they are older, they have learned how to live again, but still feels like something's missing. That's when the player makes it's return, which leads Kris to remember about the prophecy and about their freinds that they accidentaly abandoned.

Susie:

Susie remembered about her freindgroup in the darkworld better than Kris did, and went back many times before she graduated 8th grade and went on to highschool, which was in a different building. She stopped visiting by that time, since she couldn't just walk over there anytime anymore. Eventually she forgot about it too. But, she still remembers Lancer somewhat, since she viewed him as a younger brother who understood her struggle with her family, he was her favorite out of him and Ralsei.

Susie's parents were not kind to her— or to eachother. They fought all of the time, and physically abused eachother. They did not respect Susie at all, and they hated Noelle when Susie finally told them about her. When Susie graduated, she moved out as quickly as she could.

She has two tattoos— one on each shoulder. They aren't super visable on this ref sheet but one of them is a spade and the other is a heart with Noelle's name in it. Yadda yadda they are lesbians..!

Ralsei:

Ralsei hated being alone, and would spend as much time with Lancer as possible when the lighteners weren't around in order to distract himself from thinking about whether or not they had abandoned him. As a result, Lancer and him became good friends and Lancer hired him as the new royal magician of Castletown. Ralsei did his duties the best he could, until he eventually let it hit him that Kris hadn't been around for a year now.

Since Ralsei was basically made for the prophecy, and only existed so that it could be furfilled, he was very terrified of everything falling apart— as kris was the only one who could seal the fountains.

Ralsei vanished after Susie visited for the final time, and ran off. He is still registered as the royal magician, but hasn't been in Castletown for five years now.

Lancer:

As I mentioned in his ref sheet, Lancer is Queen's biological son in this au— which causes some issues for Lancer. For starters, he overheats very easily since his mechanical parts are already warmed from his bodyheat (he does not do well in hot weather, which is part of the reason he was so socially isolated when Kris and Susie met him.

Kaardarke has a relatively warmer climate, (the school forgot to close the heating vent in the spare classroom 😭) which makes it hard for Lancer to leave the castle.

The other reason was that most kaardarkeners hated him because he would cause disturbances frequently when he was out and about. 

Lancer also can't tolerate water very well, King understood this and still made him shower excessively whenever he cursed (that last part is canon I swear I am not making this all up)

Lancer had no idea why he was so different from all of the other Tribril, but after the lighteners brought Queen and the Cybertopians to Castletown, Queen told him the truth.

Lancer nowadays is kind of untrusting of Rouxls and Queen, since both kind of coddle him and are kind of helicopter-parents— but then sgain, it's a huge jump from how neglectful King was towards him.

King would often forget to feed Lancer, which would often lead to Rouxls feeding him worms (also canon). King, if he did remember, would give him very.. for lack of a better term, insane dishes that you could barely even consider a full meal.

An example from canon being how Lancer thought that three glasses of milk was a normal dinner (poor Lancer).

King would also harshly punish Lancer over very small issues, like how I mentioned the cursing thing earlier.

King's treatment of Lancer worsened when King had a darkfountain-induced vision/nightmare that lighteners were going to return, and sent Lancer to 'dispose of them', seemingly ignoring the fact that Lancer was ten and by himself. 

While Lancer knows that King is more stable now, he cannot forgive him for how he treated him when he was younger.

He is desperate to stop himself from becoming as narrow-minded & hateful as King, but in doing-so, he is adopting some of his mannerisms & has picked up his opinions on lighteners.

You can probably tell who my favorite deltarune charecter is by now...!

Also I should mention that Lancer's full name is Lancer II, his dad's Lancer I.

Noelle: 

She still thinks the Cyberworld was a dream, and doesn't think any of it actually happened due to what Susie told her when they were there.

Meanwhile, her father passed away when she was a sophomore, and since then she has dedicated herself to learning medacine. She feels like she can/should help save others, since she couldn't save Rudy.

CONGRATS, YOU REACHED THE END!

I will make more posts about this au, secret bosses next since I already have ref sheets for them too.  Then the actual bosses and other canon charecters. Maybe I might introduce some of my other little guys by then too. (I made some enemy ocs 🤯🤯) (theres a lot of them too) (and by 'enemy' I don't mean they are antagonists, I mean they are like, species of enemies in the game.. like rudinn and stuff)

if there are any spelling issues then my bad, I wrote this up very quickly 😭

and suselle is canon in this au, rahhh lesbian apocalypse (they are so me)

i tried to make this as adhd friendly as possible as someone w/ adhd, but it might still be hard to read just cus there so much text 💔

[cheesycatz]

Parasitic worm pretends to be your valentine so you don't notice that they're the reason you have 24 days left to live

Wormton AU fic is 190k words now! : )

Nothing crazy new plot wise, more bonding and found family stuff. Obligatory fluff after how much these guys had to go through. I like describing all the sounds he makes when isn't trying to suppress them; chirps, warbles, trills, chirrs, chitters, screeches, snarls, and that weird computer whirring sound he makes that may or may not have the same connotations as purring (sorry I couldn't resist)

I'm excited to go through revisions! It's been so long since I wrote some of this stuff that I don't remember the fine details, so it's genuinely fun for me to read through. Also, I had fun making disguised wormton seem as cursed as possible without actually describing his real form until post-reveal. Blue was probably the only one who didn't think he was some deranged serial killer at first sight, which, fair enough. I was kind of worried about a few very minor original characters I added not being accepted, but then I remembered that Trashy the trash can probably has more speaking lines than any one of them and it probably isn't that big of a deal. I hope you enjoy the one chapter with these three kids putting their LPS animal dolls through the most traumatizing, heart-wrenching, dark story as we all did as children (I promise it's plot relevant and contains symbolism).

Drew some non-canon wormton stuff for Valentine’s Day. I mean, I don't know how you would send a valentine to an elusive homeless man with no official documentation of his existence. The asexually reproducing computer worm guy can't feel anything romantic, but he would love to take advantage of you—gladly accept your lovely gifts. Bro’s just teasing haha he would never inject parasitic worm larvae into your abdomen just don't go to the doctor in the next 24 days please he definitely loves you and not the worms hypothetically eating your organs

“worm.vbs” is a reference to the file type used by the ILOVEYOU worm and other old malware. I only know this because I realized that one of the official spamton valentines from last year contains its exact file name “LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs”. sharing this trivia because it was like the one reference in those valentines that I didn't see anyone mention back then and because it makes me feel smart

Food for thought:

Honestly, he'd be pretty scary if it weren't for his justified fear of the antivirus forces. Malworm safety is all about avoiding disembodied voices trying to lure you into alleys, so the fact that you can physically see his relatively humanoid disguised form would make him seem dangerously trustworthy. I was thinking about what would've happened if he would've gotten help from the person on the phone (probably gaster I guess? idk). He could've totally been like a cult leader manipulating people into willingly becoming hosts because it was honorable or whatever. And that could combine with the fact that their venom slightly influences the brain. And the followers would've thought he was simply dressing up as a malworm and his fall from grace would've been when they realized he was just a malworm in disguise infecting them and prolonging the invasion. I prefer what I have now; lonely hypothetically-murderous wormton is a lot more redeemable than very-murderous cult leader wormton would be. The addisons, or anyone really, would want nothing to do with him. Fun to think about! And only to think about; I'd rather focus on the version I have now.

See you next time at the big 200k 👀 chapter 3 might actually come out before my multi-book-length spamton fanfiction but don't worry I would never abandon my favorite freak of nature

yappin complete B)

[moonfang256]

My thoughts about Deltarune, Chapters 3 & 4 (Part 9)

❤️ <( Continuing the adventure, as we walked, we saw these images along the way, and Susie asked Ralsei what they were.

He told us it's the complete prophecy, and what he had told us so far was basically a summary of it (interesting…)

❤️ <( We kept moving between light and darkness, saw more of this imagery, and Ralsei told us more about it, such as: They prophesy events that will happen and come true later in the game.

It's like seeing the future through a crystal ball.

❤️ <( Our conversation was interrupted when we saw someone spying on us from a distance and walking to the side. We decided to follow that shadow, but…

❤️ <( A hammer flew swiftly towards that image and shattered it completely, leaving us in complete darkness.

❤️ <( Luckily, our steps generated sound waves, and when we reached the end…

❤️ <( A fetus-like thing roared at us and chased us in the darkness.

We ran as fast as we could until we reached a lighted area.

❤️ <( Susie was ready to attack the creature, however…

❤️ <( The light came on, the creature got away and he appeared.

"NO WAY, GERSON!!! AHHHHH!!!"

❤️ <( No Susie, it's all good, he's an old pal.

❤️ <( This is Gerson, also known as "The Hammer of Justice".

This man in another world was a wise cool salesman who sold me a lot of glasses, which I then sold to a Temmie to get a very strong armor, to protect the child I was controlling back then. These glasses I'm wearing now (not the Spamton ones) are one of them.

Also, I can't believe one of the many theories I made came true.

Respect for the dead.

❤️ <( I did want to, but Susie didn't feel like taking care of the elderly, so we were just leaving when Gerson stopped us to ask:

❤️ <( Hmm, let me take some notes and create a new term for this:

"Duskner": Monsters that died in the Light World, whose dust remains ended in an object, and by brought it to the Dark Worlds, it come to life as something resembling a Darkner (a "Flowey").

❤️ <( Anyway, Susie got irritated with the situation and we decided the old man should follow us (although, it's obvious that being an old turtle he would walk slowly).

❤️ <( "I stare at Ralsei for a moment and talk to Kris" He'd look like a younger version of your dad, probably with a pink beard.

Hold on... What about a long rainbow beard?

🔪​ <( "They smirk a little just imagining that"

❤️ <( Noted, I'll draw that later.

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To be continued in the next post.

[skymantle]

The Mayor Knight Theory

I'm not used to writing long-form posts but I've spent years talking to my friends about this theory that only 2 or 3 other people seem to share so I'm putting it out here, too!

My theory is that the Knight is C. Holiday, the mayor of Hometown and Noelle and Dess' mother.

The Importance of the Holidays

Aside from the joke of Loox' name, the Dreemurrs and Holidays are the only characters so far to have canonical last names. This might not mean much on its own, but Noelle has clearly been set up to be an important character in Deltarune.

Her sister is missing. Her father is sick. She's childhood friends with Kris and has a crush on Susie, and studied the occult with Catti. She's in concept art of the Fun Gang, and along with Susie and Kris, is the only other name that earns the response "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY, VERY WONDERFUL" by the opening narrator (metatextually implied to be Gaster himself) if you name yourself after them.

Her mother is mayor, and is planning the upcoming festival. We know next to nothing about her, except that she's cold, strict, and possibly planning to evict Asgore if the note in his room is anything to go by.

You have one month. - C

It's clear that Noelle and her family are important characters. But how is her arc going to continue?

Cyber World

Queen seems to represent Noelle's mother, with the climax of the chapter being Noelle finally standing up to her after being ignored the whole time.

Queen's goal is for Noelle to create another dark fountain within the dark world itself: something she refers to in her fight:

Focusing Into Her Blade, She Will Create A Neo Dark Fountain

During the Spamton Sweepstakes, on the page /chair/, it depicts the chair in town hall with the tab text

But what if it could... ...get darker than dark?

Parallels of Noelle and Chara

Noelle has heavy angel symbolism, from her dress, to the doll she and Dess made for church. She wears a ring of thorns in the Weird Route, and Spamton repeatedly refers to her as [ANGEL].

The two angels of the original Delta Rune legend in Undertale are implied to be the Dreemurr siblings, with Asriel breaking the barrier and Chara (entirely with the assistance from the player) killing a good portion of the underground.

Chara thanks the player, saying,

Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong.

Throughout the Weird Route, emphasis is placed on Noelle becoming stronger, text affirming "Noelle became stronger." with every fight.

Asgore was brought into a vengeful depression with the death of his children, seeking to both take revenge on humanity and save monsterkind at the same time.

If the Knight's goal is to bring the Roaring, something the Prophecy seems to call the Angel's Heaven, who's to say the Knight isn't also acting out of grief? A world that could protect her remaining daughter?

The Significance of Very, Very

This one is admittedly a bit of a stretch, but it's still interesting (ha) to me.

The exact phrasing of "very" twice calls Gaster to mind, with entry number seventeen/room_gaster saying "VERY, VERY INTERESTING", the mysterious messages on Twitter with a similar speech pattern saying the same thing, and the opening narrator with typer ID* 667 (room_gaster uses 666) calling Kris, Noelle, and Susie "VERY, VERY WONDERFUL"

Otherwise, the exact using of "very, very" is used sparingly in Deltarune, the only examples being Spamton telling Kris how to use the Loaded Disc,

THEN. KRIS. AFTER. THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

Throwing away the Ball of Junk in the light world, which represents Kris' dark world inventory,

You have a very, very bad feeling about throwing it away.

And the mayor's secretary, when asked about her.

She's very, very busy preparing for the festival.

Maybe it ultimately doesn't mean much, but with the importance of the other two examples, I think it's worth considering.

The Future

Chapter 4 is all but confirmed to take place in the Church. Service is the day after Chapter 2, according to Rudy.

Might even be able to go to church tomorrow.

If this is the case, it's likely the story around Dess will be expanded, and with that, the rest of Noelle's family.

Conclusion

At this point in the game, at least to me, this option seems to make the most narrative sense. I know we're only a small bit into the story right now, and the Knight's identity is anyone's guess, but I thought I'd share a candidate that a lot of people seem to be skipping! ^_^

*typer id in undertale + deltarune is a number attached to a collection of soundbytes. if the soundbytes a_1 to a_6 attached to typer id 3, a character speaking dialogue with the typer id 3 would use those soundbytes

[snowangelnoelle]

putting together some bits from chapter four (mainly things said by the organikks) and the spamton sweepstakes page, possibly things that indicate what happened to dess?

so starting with the secret room in the long hall of windows in the second sanctuary (found by walking through one of the windows), there's a prophecy which just says "roots" with a picture of a house and trees. an organikk stands next to it. there also a bookshelf with a book you can read that says "and so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tears. then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew. it looked like glass." walking between this room and the hall of windows is how you access the egg room, which looks like a hospital and has kris seem to participate in art therapy, in a way that indicates they've perhaps done it before. also in the long window hall there are several organikks which, all their dialouge put together say, "what do you call a man with one eye? why does the angel make its cry? who will call the girl who snows? i don't know... ha ha ha... i don't know!". that's not necessarily important for this post but i do think that the "fallen star" that wept rivers and "why does the angel make its cry" is an interesting connection.

anyways, the organikk by the prophecy image says there is "something in between" (the egg room, presumably), and "it was mixed up", then says a bunch of words in a randomised order which is different each time - however the punctuation and capitalisation of the words never changes, so it's clear from that which the first and last words are.

i believe the correct order is most likely "Lost where the forest would grow, children followed the pointed tail." there was a page in the second round of spamton sweepstakes pages with the URL /lostwheretheforestwouldgrow which alluded to this room, showing part of the prophecy, so i'm assuming that's the first part (first because the "Lost" is always capitalised so is probly the first word, and "grow," always has a comma after it). "tail." always has a full stop so must be the last word, and the rest is just filling it in in the way that makes the most sense. the organikk then says "the poor children!" which is also the URL of a page on the deltarune site (which hinted at the egg room).

there's another set of prophecies later in the game that read "they'll hear the ring of heavens call / they'll see the tail of hell take crawl". given that a "pointed tail" could likely refer to a devils tail i think it's probably the same? especially with all the angel stuff, kris' devil horns from when they were young, and jevil who does have a pointed tail (though i'm not sure if it's specifically referring to him).

*and* when battling an organikk one of the things they can say is "the tail which must not be followed" which i think has got to be referring to the pointed tail followed by the children. another dialogue option for the organikks have in battle is "the tale which must be followed" which sort of contrasts the prophecy (the tale which must be followed) with the pointed tail which must NOT be followed, so maybe following this tail deviated from the prophecy somehow (maybe it lead to dess going missing/becoming the knight, when that wasn't what was prophesied)? i know some people have theorised that she was originally one of the "three heroes" before she went missing, so maybe her not fulfilling that role went against the prophecy? i'm not sure but i wanted to put all these pieces together since i haven't seen anyone collate them yet!!

[bigshot-n-primetime]

(a thoughtful look appears on the darkener´s face)

Maybe that means that you are a normal colored adison, just a really pale one

(The darkener laughs to themself softly)

-🐟🌑

Ah, I wish- I am just white though. Aside from my hair, that is- I colored it black when I got big. It’s easier to tell when I’m standing my next to a pale AD-ison!

[Tenna smiles at the conversation, watching as Spamton laughs.]

(He’s gotten so much more comfortable talking about it… he never would’ve laughed at the idea before.)

I used to be insecure about it, actually.

…!

But it works for the branding, and… Tenna helped me see that it’s good to be different as long as I am, well, myself!

[Tenna bends down and hugs Spamton, a wide grin on his face.]

I’m so proud of you, Spam… I love you so much. ^)

I love you too, honey! 8^]

[Spamton turns back to the darkner.]

It’s good to have a support system, and… talking about it actually made me feel better about it too. Thanks for asking so I could.

-

[posted off queue]

[youtry2replaceurself]

Update: this post is at 69 notes!

good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight!

Also nothing about this post is organized but I would like to add that yes I do take drawing requests and they are very very encouraged, and there's a 50/50 chance the drawing will be shit :3

And I have a huge tag list so ask me if you want to be on it or if you want to be taken off it

OC stuff hERE look

Pronouns are anything other than she/her, preferably they/them

Wattpad is @asri3l_dreemurr, @spamton-detector is my gimmick blog, @thermodynamics-lawyer-esq was abandoned 💔,

aalso @redleavesandteardrops WAs my WoF side blog but fuck you

and @sonder-wof is my fan-made WoF continent blog thing

dni if you're a bitch I guess, don't want a long ass list of terms I don't like lmao

Btw I'm a lynx, reindeer, and crow/magpie (idfk I'm trying to figure out) therian wahoo !! And also some kind of owl but I'm not sure and I'm really confused help

Important links I think people should see: (actually mostly stuff I just want to go back to later)

Alright, usually, I put the most recent links at the bottom, but I need y'all to reblog this now.

This might be already on here but, if you find someone that tried to commit suicide via pills:

Internet safety and how to identify pdf files/pedophiles

Important sites for while Trump is president

How to be prepared for Trump's presidency

Like the above link

Something to remember about Project 2025

What to do if you suddenly find yourself homeless

^ written by someone who has been homeless

Text... Font... Thing...

Writing resourcesssss

TIME TRAVEL, BITCH

Books Trump might ban, I think

Depression tips

Words instead of "said"

When your character...

Rizz

Some links for a bad day

Suicide hotline that isn't call (was told this isn't working at the moment)

Goodbye medical debt!!

Tree noise<3

Petition to ban perfume in schools

How to bypass YouTube's anti ad blocker thingy

I didn't have the attention span to. Fully read this so I am so so sorry I can't summarize this properly but I'm fairly sure that it is important and worth reading if you're, unlike me, capable of reading this

Thank You Mister Deli Woman

Kewl resources for artists

In the US? Wanna learn new and terrible things about where you live?

Cold shock response

????WHAT THE FUCK ???????

BOYCOTT COCA COLA PRODUCTS AND NESTLE PRODUCTS!

Classic meme templates

THIS ANIMATIC MADE ME CRY

Self care assessment thingy

free movies

How to draw arms and legs

Lineart turorial

Becoming an adult cheat sheet

taxes

How to fight back against ICE agents

Something something food recalls. I'm stupid and don't know what this means but I've heard it talked about seriously

Awesome seawing art

WoF headcanons I wanna go back to

Fuck Google

March 15

Sound

Wobble worble

"Jesus in a hot topic"

Call the police on their pedophile ass

“I have all these OCs! But no story…”

Fuck ice, know your rights

Web games

Fuck paywalls

Survive the next 4 years

Might have another similar thing here but how to identify AI (writing, voices, videos, "art")

Literally everything you need to make a character

Holidays :)

Buy stuff from native people!!

Wholesome thing I wanna save so I can go back to it

AO3 summaries: help

Site to totally avoid

Speaking from ignorance

Top surgery tips!

Consent

Project Gutenburg

Finding your lost pets/your lost non-human family

First aid for seizures

Dragons and unicorns.

Food or drugs that have been recalled

What to do if...

STATISTICS

Substitutes for AI!

The whole untitled wolf sheep comic thing

Kris. K-kris. I don't smoke weed. I DONT SMOKE WEED! I DONT SMOKE WEED! I DONT SMOKE WEED !!! KRIS !!!!!!!

tips

VERY important tips

Deltarune animation I very much love, chapter 3 spoilers beware

Yet another deltarune animation I love, again, ch3 spoilers

Tenna gifs (thank you ezgif I love you ezgif)

Education is a right, not a service

2dollarbeer

TENNA MOUSE??

Fun behaviors to give dragons

Mpreg.

Stop nonconsensual intimate image abuse

Essay about Ralsei i like a lot

Deltarune divorce chart?

Dads and lesbians and lumberjacks

How to make a cookie in a mug

Weird dreams I had

Sans is from deltarune (ch3 + ch4 spoilers)

THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF FANART I LOVE IT SO MANY............

"how to be a sub and not kill yourself in the process" I think. This is here so people don't do that. dont die by being stupid please

A deltarune comic I like lots ehehe

Another deltarune comic I like lots :)

Evacuation prep

Not even a Tumblr post but a funnee thing I saw on YouTube

A bunch of stuff

Anygays here's my other platforms bc I'm so slay

og art blog:

Will wood blinky is made by @skelpiescool

Deny defend depose blinky made by me :3 if you use mine please credit btw, not "credit to the artist" that's not credit

[mar64ds]

Okay so when deltarune comes out I am not going to open social media. I will play from 5pm to however long it takes me to complete both chapters (pretty likely I will be able to play until late at night!)

I will NOT be lifeblogging or lifeposting or whatever. Papyrus himself could show up and I will still not open social media to talk about it until i finish both chapters

Secrets bosses are likely to be left undone and I can come back next day to complete them if I haven't yet, depends on how hard they are to find and to fight. I didn't find Spamton on my first playthrough so you know I am bad at this and will check it out on youtube first lol once I'm done with both chapters of course

I don't care about secret routes so I will just check that out on youtube the next day

Once I'm done playing I will tag my post as #deltarunespoilers, be sure to block that tag now!

If I end pretty late at night I will make a few posts of my rants but the true content like gifsets and the like will have to wait for the next day

That's all! Deltarune next week

[noma-is-here]

i had some time to look more closely at the trailer, so i thought i'd make a post about some of the things i noticed. i’ll include some reference pictures so everyone knows what i’m talking about.

YAP SESSION UNDER THE CUT

at the beginning, when Kris, Susie and Ralsei are introduced, Kris seeks out Susie and helps her get up, while Ralsei simply joins them without Kris doing anything.

i feel this is somewhat representative of the relationship between our three protagonists. Kris seems to have a genuine interest in Susie (as does Susie in Kris), while Kris cares less about Ralsei in comparison. this also reflects tea theory of course.

this seems to be (at least in function) some kind of new soul mode (even though the soul’s colour doesn’t change). the colour of the projectiles here matches Spamton’s glasses, as well as Friend’s eyes. the pattern in the background seems also reminiscent of eyes to me.

i feel this sequence is probably somehow connected to Spamton, perhaps this is a battle against Mike, who might share Spamton’s glasses’ colour in some way.

also, this could be the room Toby was talking about in the Release Date Announcement Newsletter. it features two parallel and simultaneous areas of interaction, which could be a good opportunity to implement the mouse feature on two switch 2 joycons.

this rhythm segment shows the Delta Warriors performing on a stage. the box that shows Susie’s notes is blocked somehow, while Kris’s and Ralsei’s are accessible to the player. i feel like this reflects Susie’s actions from Ch. 1 somewhat, where the player couldn’t directly control her. it’ll be interesting to see whether this is because Susie’s relation with the Fun Gang gets worse again, or if this is just another “Susie casually rejects the Player’s control” moment.

some sort of glass (or maybe ice) seems to be falling in this scene. after Kris hangs onto the row of tiles, you can see a faint outline around the tile to the left of Kris, as well as a sort of progress bar before Kris jumps to the next tile. this leads me to believe this is some sort of climbing mechanic. perhaps this will be used in a real time climbing section. the falling glass indicates some kind of emergency, and the progress bar supports this as well (placing a time cost on the player in a situation when time isn’t important would be pointless).

on the top you can also see what seems to be stained glass windows. this leads me to believe that this is the location of the dark world of Ch. 4: the church. the stained glass windows would also explain the change in the colour palette.

in the “Chapter X is waiting” sequence, the footage for the first two chapters shows their respective main antagonists. this leads me to believe that what is shown for Ch. 3 & 4 is a sneak peak at the upcoming main antagonists.

the tv we see at the end of Ch. 2 is shown for Ch. 3. this practically confirms that this tv person, who is presumably Tenna (from antenna) is the antagonist of Ch. 3.

it gets a bit trickier for Ch. 4. Kris and Susie are running along a pathway made of large (glass?) tiles featuring the Delta Rune, while a bunch of small, black, fuzzy creatures with one white spot (perhaps an eye) are hunting them. the tiles light up as Kris steps onto them, and break shortly after.

This could either mean that Toby broke the pattern with the antagonists in order to keep Ch. 4 more mysterious, or the Ch. 4 antagonist is a sort of hive mind or a group of these small creatures.

the prevalence of the Delta Rune here is another point towards the fourth chapter being set in the church. another small detail is the rest of the tiles: it seems like the Vessel or Kris are pictured behind the Delta Rune.

then there’s the sepia tone animation at the end. the entity that the fun gang is standing in front of is too large to clearly make out, but it seems like multiple angel-like wings are unfolding to reveal the big star shape in the centre. i think it’s a pretty safe bet to assume that this is the angel, or at least something closely connected to it.

interestingly enough, the star shape at the centre of this entity connects it to the titans of the prophecy, which feature a very similar shape on their bodies. this likely means that the titans are also connected to the angel somehow, and are probably allied with it. i think this makes it also clear that the Roaring and the Angel’s Heaven are connected too; perhaps one follows from the other.

—

if you want some more yapping, i'd recommend TBSkyen's analysis of the trailer.

anyways, i'm tired (if i made a typo or smth, you now know why), so that's it from me for now.

[humunanunga]

Okay, so, with Chapters 3 & 4 coming next month, this is my chance to go over every prediction I've made so far.

First: kingdoms and secret bosses.

I originally assumed the secret boss would be the book of hymns, because Jevil and Spamton Neo were both confronted in the bottommost corners of the rightmost ends of their kingdoms. However:

This, of course, would depend on the next kingdom spanning the rest of the living room and not just the tv itself, and I was doubtful before that the next kingdom would be entirely tv-themed, but Cyber Kingdom did only borrow a few details from anything else around the computers.

That said, I saw a post pointing out that the trend may be items that were always going to be cast aside. I had my doubts about this one because I figured rules cards would get more neglect than jokers, but this could still have merit.

Both 1 and 2's locations were also directly under the rulers' own battle stage, so if the tv is the next castle, then the next secret boss might actually be a vhs tape left inside that player, such as a home video, or even something hidden under the tv stand itself.

I still think the book will be an important character somehow, but I'm tentatively withholding my assumption that a hymnal Darkner will have the next shadow crystal.

(Speaking of which, where did those shards come from? did Dess wear glasses? And is this "mantle" as in the shelf above a fireplace, or "mantle" as in a cloak? If it's supposed to be clear like glass, could it be some kind of plastic wrap, or tape? If it's tape, are we supposed to start piecing the crystals together?)

Second: character arcs per chapter.

Back when the first chapter was released, it seemed to me like a recurring theme was kindness– for example, Susie's character arc. And in chapter two, though it didn't match up with playing in shooter mode against Spamton Neo, it seemed to me like Noelle had a character arc themed around bravery. Learning to stand up for herself despite her phobias and anxieties. Assuming Determination is reserved for last, Kris opening a Fountain may open discussion about justification, and Toriel's phonecall suggests that we may be joined by Undyne or Napstablook either that night or the next day. Toriel may not necessarily be our other party member this chapter, but instead more like Berdly.

Right now, my prediction is that the order goes kindness, bravery, justice, patience, perseverance, and finally, determination or whatever other trait has been theorized to be attached to red– which may be something meta-related.

Third: digital roots.

This one is based on the windows pages. The track playing in the basement leading to Spamton Neo is called digital roots, which is when you add a number's digits together until you get a single digit. 18 = 1+8 = 9 and 36 = 3+6 = 9, and both are even numbers, meaning they're both divisible by 6 and 9. Which are numbers associated with Chara and W.D Gaster.

This one may be a stretch, but there were also 51 windows total, which is divisible by 17 (another number associated with Gaster), has a digital root of 6, and the rarecats jumpscare was the same face you have a chance of seeing in that basement. The face with eyes like Spamton's shades.

By itself, this could all mean nothing; but if we get another puzzle like the windows, I'm betting on the answers being 54, 72 or 90– all divisible by both 6 and 9, or even numbers with a digital root of 9.

Fourth: Kris' motivations and Toriel.

The secret bosses are all optional, so I don't think Kris could be explicitly looking for the next one.

However.

There could be any number of items Kris wants to become a Darkner, either to contact them or recruit them...

...or...

...this could've been done to prove the existence of Dark World to Toriel if they were involved in Dess' disappearance.

We don't know yet how much Kris knew before we were assigned to them, or even why we were given control over them– and either they can't tell us themself, or they've been trying not to. Because they have no reason to actually trust us.

But if Dess got lost in a Dark World somewhere, and Kris witnessed it, this could be their way of showing they didn't just have a wild imagination as a small child.

Which means that we might find out from Toriel how it was reported, and whether she divorced Asgore because she blames him for failing to find her. Even if he does know more, it could've been too unbelievable, so there's a chance that this is Kris' chance to prove to her that Dess' disappearance was abnormal.

And finally...

Fifth: Ralsei.

Remember when he showed up in Cyber Kingdom? On his own?

...I think he's gonna have his hat on again.

I mean, sure, he does look strangely like a Dreemurr, right? What would Toriel think of him? Would he want to explain the resemblance in front of us, or in front of Kris?

...But how would he know to hide his face?

Sure, he seems to know where new Fountains appeared or how to get there, but should he know Toriel's there?

There may eventually be an innocent explanation, but Ralsei will know more than he should and players are going to get suspicious.

[lokisis]

Alright I have more to say about that "why spam and jevil went crazy" post. Ch3&4 spoilers

So yes, I do think they went crazy bc they found out what the prophecy, the whole prophecy, was. We see queen, king, and many other darkners don't know it. But jevil and spamton both ended up telling someone something they could've only known if they knew the prophecy. Which is interesting. They both knew what would inevitably happen. But they also knew nothing could change it. I would go crazy too.

But the post goes on to say it was gaster who did it and gaster is the one who wrote the prophecy.

I disagree. From what we know, gaster is actually completely outside the bounds of the game. He can Only talk with us, the player, because we too are outside the bounds. But that's not why I disagree. He says he's still waiting for his deltarune. Why would he be "waiting" for a prophecy already in motion?

From how I interpreted it, I think gaster actually has his own prophecy. One separate from the one in game. He's never gone against us, never once stopped us from doing what we wanted. He encourages us when fighting against the knight ffs. He doesn't care about the prophecy already there. He cares about His prophecy.

I suppose I should clarify that "deltarune" is seemingly the name of the prophecy. The worst part is that it exists not only in dark worlds, but in the light world too. Catti talks about "the 3 heroes" during the sermon.

Anyway, I don't think gaster made the secret bosses go crazy because he doesn't talk to anyone but us. I think the shadow crystals might be the cause. But I'm not sure. Maybe it's whoever was trying to get gerson to look into his crystal? Maybe we'll find out next year.