#(sorry to the haters but no i actually don't practice much if at all outside of orchestra rehearsal these days. i'm a bad influence ik)

[supercantaloupe]

i survived

rehearsal tonight is gonna be brutal

[aithusarosekiller]

Why Jegulus would actually work with their (barely existent) canon personalities:

This isn't a place for a debate so literally don't bother, I'm just trying to articulate to appeal to the 'iT maKEs No seNsE' crowd because while I don't care about canon, some Jegulus haters don't respect you unless you worship it so

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First: James' benefit from it-

To begin with, you have the superiority complex. As much as fans (and Sirius) like to say that Sirius immediately saw through his parents' beliefs when he was born and was a perfect activist from infancy, this is not true. First of all it's highly improbable and much more likely that he told that sort of tale that in order to convince himself and Harry that he was always good, but he isn't and we see that. He is progressive but he still treats Kreacher incredibly poorly, he uses oppressed creatures as jokes and sees no issue with it (yeah, canon-worshippers, sorry but in PoA there is no remorse for the prank, he laughs about it proudly) so he would have had to grow out of most of the behaviours he did have when he was sorted. He would carry some leftover beliefs from his family that James and the others had to help him unlearn. He would be willing to of course but it was still work. Why on earth would James not have reason to think 'I can do it again! They were raised in the same house they're practically the same.' Sirius had described his brother as weak and idiotic so James sees it as an easy win for his ego and the worth of his name, maybe even in Lily’s eyes.

And even when he falls in love and realises he may not be able to change them? Canonically? James wouldn't care. Not before he was 17 at least. He only ever relies on equality when it matters to him. They bully for no reason but target Snape a lot anyway, they already hate him when James sees the opportunity to stand up for Lily, speaking over her wishes instead of with her. He seems more intent on humiliating Snape and making a scene than actually fixing any issues. He's never truly evil but he's not a perfect virtuous angel. So him staying with someone who's morals are compromised wouldn't feel evil to him, he still thinks he's great and perfect, he just loves people who aren't. Let teenage James be morally grey, it's all he ever has been. It would give a pretty cool exploration of his growing maturity in the later school years. There's no real explanation for it apart from 'well it worked for him getting Lily' (which I hate, he nastily jokes about dating her infront of a crowd in exchange for not physically assaulting her friend and then she marries him? Give them more fucking depth than that, it reminds me of too many creeps I know) so it would be kind of cool to explore what could have set him off down the path of becoming a better person. Maybe age or outside pressure but I like the idea of him having a personal relationship that helped him to grow. He's with someone he can never be open to the public with and it's eating away at him because technically he should call it off but he doesn't bloody want to. When it ends, it's all too much and he chooses to flip his life over. He realises how Lily must have felt having Severus turn around on her and force her to leave him; he looks at the war and social climate with more integrity. He begins to change for the better in response to this upheaval of his life and his heartbreak. Also regulus gave him that snitch he was playing with and nobody can convince me he didn't.

Now for Regulus:

The betrayal is the obvious one, he'd always been tentative and naive according to Sirius. Sirius is under the impression he would've just tried to run when it got scary and we can assume he just misjudged him but wouldn't it be interesting if somebody was there to help him embrace his courageous, reckless side? If James sat there whispering words of victory and bravery to him, planting the seeds for his later rebellion? It could also have begun to place seeds of doubt in his mind surrounding the death eaters, even if they did not come to fruition until later. Even if you think he only changed due to Kreacher being hurt, the disproportionate response of sacrificing his entire life over it in some grand display of power is SO JAMES of him.

Then there's the opportunity to explore him on a more personal level. Who is he outside of his family? Was the locket the only secret betrayal or were there more? How does this impact his relationship with Sirius, regardless of him knowing of it or not? It adds even more layers to the meaning of his name and it helps to explore his own doubts before they are ever apparent to his family. James would likely not feel a sense of betrayal in not telling Sirius due to his ego and the fact that British teen boys are just like that™️ with their friend groups. But would Regulus? He would likely feel guilt anyway, but towards his brother? Did he still see him as a family member, as someone worth telling things to, as someone James belonged to? Well never know the canonical answers to this and that's why it's so FUN to explore. The layers to the secrecy and hope in their relationship is amazing.

What are his lingering feelings like after it ended? Hatred, regret, jealousy? And for James- guilt, sorrow, crushed hope?

The timelines add up too- the mark, James growing more mature, the snitch and the bullying of Snape.

And if your argument is 'they're not gay' tell me what makes you think that. Their personality? There isn't one 'way' to be gay. Prejudices? You think gay people are born holding a rainbow flag and chanting peace and love? So may gay ppl are vile to other marginalised groups. James married a woman? Bi people exist.

You don't have to like it, but don't say it makes no sense becuase it can and neither do half of your hcs about wolfstar and the prank and James' sunshine personality and how perfect jily were

[justmaghookit]

THIS IS A SUBJECTIVE OPINION, MY SUBJECTIVE OPINION AS AN ARTIST AND CHARACTER DESIGNER. IT IS FINE IF WE DO NOT AGREE.

Ok you can continue

I'm sorry I need to be a hater for a second though it goes against my nature but hh has some of the absolute worst character and scenery design I have ever seen in my entire life and you have been tricked into thinking it is cool because it uses bright colours and bombastic shapes to cover the fact it's actually boring.

It's not bland, but it is boring.

Every single screenshot or gif I have seen makes me go crosseye'd, the characters blur into the background because there is no fucking proper saturation difference. I thought the new white and red cheeked character was literally just the first character but with a haircut and style change. Every single character has a copy-pasted shape there is no actual variation in body type or face shape outside of superficial changes. You have Triangle or Triangle with Tits.

You would have to tie me down clockwork orange style to get me to actually watch it. Maybe the story is good and the characters are cool or whatever! I don't know! I haven't watched it and you can't make me!

The characters apparently have aesthetics and theming but I honestly couldn't tell you what it was because there is so much going on in the designs that it's impossible to tell. One of the first rules of character design is that you should be able to get a feel for a character from the silhouette alone! But you can't do that here because their silhouette's are all so similar! The shape language for everyone is the fucking same! It's infuriating!!

I understand stylisation and personal choice but if you cannot draw diverse designs because it doesn't fit "your style" it is your failing as an artist and you are putting a limitation on yourself, it's like shooting your own foot!

I honestly think V would benefit from going back to basics and re-learning figure drawing and colour theory but from everything I've heard she can't handle any form of constructive criticism, which is once again like shooting yourself in the foot. Artists need to be able to take criticism and advice from other artists in order to grow, an artist that believes themselves above criticism is incapable of growth and will stagnate.

If you are an artist and have gotten this far I am begging you, remember to practice your silhouettes and don't blow off colour theory. Please... please learn about values [colour edition] if you don't your art will become a muddy messy and unless that is what you're going for you really don't want it to be like that

THIS IS MY SUBJECTIVE OPINION AS A TRAINED ARTIST, I HAVE A DEGREE, I AM ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE OTHER ARTISTS IT IS WHAT ARTISTS DO. BY PUBLISHING HER WORK V HAS PUT HERSELF IN THE PUBLIC FORUM AND THEREFORE IT IS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE FOR ME TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. IF YOU DISAGREE THAT IS FINE, BUT THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION FOR DEBATE.

[dojae-huh]

You’re right. It’s the opinion that I’ve seen from non-doyoung fans and also first timers who react to nct about his vocals. Ironically I did get into 127 through Like A Star but seeing these reactions and other comments made me actually doubt myself. I like his voice but why do i not see people (outside of his fandom) appreciating him. Am i wrong or what? I know it’s dumb. Why would you want to seek validation from his non fans but it just makes me thinking. Why he doesn’t attract much attention vocal-wise to first time listeners of 127. Take note of the 127 here.

A lot of the time I see that people would instantly got attracted to Taeil and Haechan’s voice because their voice stands out. Not technically, but tone-wise. So i just came to conclusion that he doesn’t have the how to say, dramatic(?), extra flair to his voice? From my previous post, I didn’t touch about vocal techniques because I know he got the skills. And to be fair, most of the people that I watch and read comments off doesn’t know a thing about vocal technique as well. What I meant by him being an ‘average singer’ is actually relative to Taeil and Haechan’s more stands out vocal tone. It’s what people see because most of us don’t have the ability to dissect their techniques. Which for me is a bit unfair because he works hard when it comes to singing. But that’s just how thing works. Some people was born with more advantage. And one of Doyoung’s is his hardworking demeanour which is really favoured by his fans.

And for my comments on other fields, I must admit it was written mostly for exaggeration and to fish out comments from you guys. I’m not that invested in his other schedules aside from singing actually, so my statement was awfully biased. But nice to know that he’s doing well in other fields as well. Haters posts actually did make me feel insecure as a fan and you and most of your audience actually have this way of writing that give me room for thoughts. That’s why i asked here. I have to say it’s not very nice of me to seek reassurance this way and I’m only brave because it’s anonymous. I don’t think it’s a good practice but i think i get immediate result if i do it this way(?). What do u think

People are social animals, there is a pull to make a group and to act as one. Add to it the fact that some fans don't know English well, so they repeat positive comments they see about their bias verbatim.

Let's take Haechan. He has many qualities that can attract a fan, from his appearence and maknae image to his quick mind and stage presence. But everyone always write "unique voice!", so even a Hyuk's stan who came to like him for his dancing would be inclined to mention his "unique voice!" under a YT video. Moreover, if this stan is of a different opinion from the majority (say, acknowledges that Haechan is weaker than Jaehyun technically), he or she wouldn't be able to say it out loud without angering other stans.

Now, Taeil. He is the strongest vocalist technically in NCT. And it is easy to understand that he is a good vocalist (power notes, resonance). Thus his stans use this card to elevate their bias. It's the Ace card noone can beat. Who is given all the high notes? Taeil! Taeil has other attractive qualities. For example, he is a true musician (not just a performer), he has a chill comforting personality, he is funny in his own way. However, his stans can't use these cards. Taeil doesn't dance well, he isn't the leader, he isn't a visual (other universally acknowledged Ace cards). All his stans have is his "The Main vocal!" card. And they get super aggressive (out of insecurity) about it. Don't you dare say Doyoung is also a main vocal in their presence.

Sorry, I know I'm repeating in part what you wrote, anon, but I'm also explaining my POV to readers at large.

Taeil once said: "what Doyoung does seems easy but it is not". Many fans take Doyoung's singing abilities for granted. Some don't understand how he is better than Yuta. Not all fans pay attention or even can hear and appreciate the nuances in an idol singing. Try to explain to BTS fans that their biases are not that good technically and are not on par with SM vocals, you'd get linched.

I often see vocal teachers who react to k-pop videos scoff at fans' obsession with high notes. They know it's not the hardest part, that doing a run or a smooth transition without changing of the tone of the voice is harder. However, most average people think heigh notes are the hardest to do.

There are a lot of people who notice Doyoung's voice right away in 127 and U songs. They simply don't write about it everywhere as often as Hyuk's and Taeil's fans. As for YT reviewers, they do their homework. They know who they should point out to get the brownie points.

Doyoung has a recogniseable tone. I can't agree with you (and with him, btw) that he doesn't. However, he does need an opportunity to demonstrate it. And recent A-tracks are not tailored to him (as he is the support). It is the same for Jaehyun. Jaehyun loses the warmth of his voice in his parts in many 127 tracks.

To sum it up. I don't think Doyoung should be pitied. He is a better vocalist than Haechan and can do musicals, he is a better emotional singer than Taeil and has a better stage presence, so high chances he would be a more successful soloist than the two of them. All 3 of them lack in some departments, all 3 of them need to work on their weaker sides to achieve what they want, all 3 of them need to give room to other members in the unit and be an instrument in an orchestra.

For my part, I like 127 for having so many good voices and I'm also happy when SM manages to use them adequately in a song.

As for the fans and your validation. Read comments under Doyoung's solos and covers. See for yourself how many people appreciate his voice. Read comments under Yestoday and Boss. Remember that more than 1mln people tuned in to his Birthday mini-concert. And that most of his vlives where he sings have very high number of views. Keep in mind how Doyoung is constantly invited by directors of tv-series and producers who heard him once somewhere and fell for his voice. He is also on the second place when it comes to subscribers on Spotify (Taeyong is on the 1st place).