#(s5 canon trajectory only. it was ok until the ladynoir ghosting.)
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fernsnouveau · 1 year ago
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#yeah the ship cracked not cause we dont believe in teen love #but because s5 messed up their dynamic #this whole thing messed up adriens arc not because of adrienette #but because he kept getting locked out of his own narrative #which is not satisfying regardless of adrienette #reducing all these complaints to just the salters belittling teen love #the sugar side really dont get it
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#as a writer I feel this #writing the LS is hard now I need to ensure there is a clear break from canon to even contemplate it #why did they turn it so toxic?
“You don’t ship the love square because you’re an adult who doesn’t believe teenage love is legitimate”
I’m going to stop you there. Yes, I am an adult person who is aware teenage romance doesn’t have a great track record of being lasting in real life. But Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir is FICTIONAL.
If the writers decide on a convincing arc for Maribug and Adricat being “made for each other”, then yes, I will ship them. I considered them an OTP for years, actually.
UNFORTUNATELY there was a multi-season storyline of Ladybug keeping important secrets from Chat Noir that was not fully addressed and pushed aside.
UNFORTUNATELY as of the season 5 finale, we have Maribug lying to Adricat about his very existence as a son of Monarque and his status of being a Sentimonster.
So no. I don’t ship it anymore. And I’m actually kind of bummed this fictional relationship I invested in for years is dead to me.
#yeah this is why I divorced the last two thirds of s5 and probably whatever comes afterwards#Adrien's arc has shifted from an abuse survivor story where he eventually gets away from Gabriel#and finds healthier relationships such as with Maribug#to an abuse victim story where Maribug is gaslighting Adrien into loving his abuser#and respects said abuser more than she respects Adrien#and feels like the message now is that there's no use escaping abuse because everyone else will treat you the same anyway.#It's not just Maribug either but Félix/Kagami/Plagg/Alix/Alya/Suhan/Nathalie(/Emilie?) aren't dating Adrien#so that's not specifically a shipping issue it's just 'all of Adrien's loved ones start treating him like Gabriel wanted' issue.#for the record I generally liked the s4 ladynoir conflict and thought it kept both characters imperfect but sympathetic.#but damn it needed a reconcilation arc and instead we get this escalation. this is thematically horrifying.#s4 was like 'it will be so satisfying when it's resolved'. s5 is like 'yeah I don't think there's a satisfying way to resolve this.'#the best I can hope is they break up and get therapy far away from each other.#also s5 already demonstrated this narrative's unwillingness to resolve things it pretty much promised to resolve so yeah.#ml writing salt#ml fandom salt#adrinette salt#(s5 canon trajectory only. it was ok until the ladynoir ghosting.)#the lovesquare were some of the most blorbos is situations of all time. they could've been so many things!#why out of all those possibilities would the writers pick THIS? 💀 this is the worst timeline. who wanted this?!#the writers really didn't NEED to turn it into abuse victim grooming material. yet here we are. why.#ml writing criticism#ml s5 criticism#ml s5#marinette#adrien#abuse#abuse apologism#agency#meta#the ship we got is a thematic 180° from the ship that the narrative originally set up and we were rooting for
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