#(meeting Rosamund really settled Liam actually which no one would ever believe but it did)

[malkaleh]

In Crown of Ashes, does Liam have as many kids as he does in OT3 verse? Or does the scandal mean that he treads more carefully?

He kind of treads more carefully because, honestly Trauma. And also in Crown of Ashes verse I think Liam really finds a life purpose far earlier than he does in OT3 verse proper. (It’s protecting his younger siblings).

Because in OT3 verse proper I think (though I’m still figuring out his storylines exact beats) Liam kind of feels like…I’m just here to have fun! I refuse to take any of this seriously due to Why Would I. He feels like his brothers have found their roles (obviously Tommy is The Heir, George is the next in line/intelligence agent (SPY says George, I am a SPY GUY)/intellectual, Owen is the artist/theological scholar, Ned is Happy Youngest Son Wife Guy (Defender) and then there’s Meg, who Liam is so close to but Meg has always known what she wanted to be - A Knight General. They were never in doubt.

And Liam, being the third of five eventual sons figures that there has be one kind who is just here to party in OTL and so…he’s not like anything awful but he is also very much ‘drinking, fucking and partying’ actually there’s a moment where he and his friends might like, trash an inn and his Dad Thomas is Disappointed which kind of shocks him out because OH SHIT I MADE DAD SAD :((((.

But Crown Of Ashes Liam has to really grow up way too young so he doesn’t have the kind of careless hot girl summer the same Party vibes at all.

(And yes he was taught better but he’s also Impulse Control? What Impulse Control and really not thinking about how like, Liam LIAM. SERIOUSLY you cannot actually just blithely sleep your way through the court and party your whole life and Be A 16th Century Rake)

(To be fair I think all of his kids came from (a) widow who murdered her abusive husband and was like ‘I want to fuck a hot rich guy who will spend money on me’ and good for her and (b) lesbian who was like ‘I want kids with my lover and you are actually a decent human being under the Rake (tm) Behaviour and also great in bed’ and (c) eventual wife who he met while having a foursome)

Crown Of Ashes it’s like - Liam and Meg are the oldest of the younger ones who are sent away. Owen is maybe just old enough to be aware but young enough to not understand but Ned and Pippa are genuinely babies and Liam and Meg have to look after them because their older siblings (George, Tommy and Elizabeth) are taken away from them.

[herawell]

#tudors ot3 verse reference#also a thing: all liam’s siblings marry for love#(the triad do arrange marriages but they give their children the choice if that makes sense?)#(liam really struggles with that)#(because honestly he is very charming and women fall so in love with him (handsome prince charming etc) and he’s..not a monogamous guy)#(and he is honest about it because the time he did a teenage ‘i’ll totally flirt with two women at once and sleep with a third’ )#(he got strips torn off him)#(mostly by Meg)#(meeting Rosamund really settled Liam actually which no one would ever believe but it did)

In Crown of Ashes, does Liam have as many kids as he does in OT3 verse? Or does the scandal mean that he treads more carefully?

He kind of treads more carefully because, honestly Trauma. And also in Crown of Ashes verse I think Liam really finds a life purpose far earlier than he does in OT3 verse proper. (It’s protecting his younger siblings).

Because in OT3 verse proper I think (though I’m still figuring out his storylines exact beats) Liam kind of feels like…I’m just here to have fun! I refuse to take any of this seriously due to Why Would I. He feels like his brothers have found their roles (obviously Tommy is The Heir, George is the next in line/intelligence agent (SPY says George, I am a SPY GUY)/intellectual, Owen is the artist/theological scholar, Ned is Happy Youngest Son Wife Guy (Defender) and then there’s Meg, who Liam is so close to but Meg has always known what she wanted to be - A Knight General. They were never in doubt.

And Liam, being the third of five eventual sons figures that there has be one kind who is just here to party in OTL and so…he’s not like anything awful but he is also very much ‘drinking, fucking and partying’ actually there’s a moment where he and his friends might like, trash an inn and his Dad Thomas is Disappointed which kind of shocks him out because OH SHIT I MADE DAD SAD :((((.

But Crown Of Ashes Liam has to really grow up way too young so he doesn’t have the kind of careless hot girl summer the same Party vibes at all.

(And yes he was taught better but he’s also Impulse Control? What Impulse Control and really not thinking about how like, Liam LIAM. SERIOUSLY you cannot actually just blithely sleep your way through the court and party your whole life and Be A 16th Century Rake)

(To be fair I think all of his kids came from (a) widow who murdered her abusive husband and was like ‘I want to fuck a hot rich guy who will spend money on me’ and good for her and (b) lesbian who was like ‘I want kids with my lover and you are actually a decent human being under the Rake (tm) Behaviour and also great in bed’ and (c) eventual wife who he met while having a foursome)

Crown Of Ashes it’s like - Liam and Meg are the oldest of the younger ones who are sent away. Owen is maybe just old enough to be aware but young enough to not understand but Ned and Pippa are genuinely babies and Liam and Meg have to look after them because their older siblings (George, Tommy and Elizabeth) are taken away from them.