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sam-loves-seb · 1 year ago

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gallavich questions

thanks for the tag (and the questions) @callivich !!

What’s a fic you’ve read more than once? intro to quantum dating by @spoonfulstar, i think i've read it 3 or 4 times now, it's one of my all time favorites

What’s a gifset you always have to reblog? anytime i see a gifset from that one s5 deleted scene, yeah that one, i have to reblog

What’s a headcanon you can’t stop thinking about? i have a very specific headcanon for a tattoo ian gets post-canon for mickey, and i hesitate to even explain it now bc i think one day i do wanna write a fic about him getting it, but whatever--my headcanon is that he gets an M tattooed on his left ring finger and it's a subtle yet sweet nod to his husband. (i could talk about this for 9 hours but i will limit myself and stop here)

What’s a fanart you love looking at? i've spent an obscene amount of time staring at this fanart by @doodlevich it just checks all my boxes (domestic, husbands, fluff, etc.) and it's so well done, i'm obsessed with this pieces

What’s an idea you’d love to create if you had the time/inspiration? listen, i have this idea for a rock band au that lives rent fucking free in my head, and if i can find the time and the inspiration to actually turn these vibes and unorganized plot points into actual words and a coherent story in the new year, then maybe it'll see the light of day in 2024 but no promises. for now, i leave you with this: four milkovich siblings are in a rock band that is rising to success with the launch of their second studio album and subsequent tour, and ian gallagher is lead singer mandy's (fake) boyfriend--at least in the eyes of the public--and he spends some time that summer touring with the band and hooking up with their lead guitarist in secret until the band's manager/father catches wind of what's going on behind closed doors

What’s something you’ve discovered since entering this fandom? A new trope you love? A different analysis of the show? Something else? i've always been a post-canon enthusiast for almost all of my ships, but i think before gallavich i always envisioned them with a very cookie cutter standard american dream family with the house and the careers and the 2.5 kids, which usually fits a lot of my ships, but with gallavich i... don't have that same vision ?? i think they're actually my first ship that i hc more often than not without kids in their post canon life, which is a new vibe for me entirely but i kinda love reading/writing it. idk if that answers the question you asked, but it definitely answered a question

What’s an underrated trope or concept you’d like to see more of? honestly i want more s9/10 prison era gallavich fics (and/or fanart). i think it's a gold mine era with so much untapped potential, and there are very few fics/series/whatever that really get deep with it and get to the good stuff of these two boys who haven't spent any significant time together in years but still love each other like they did way back when

What’s your favourite season? And has this changed after multiple rewatches of the show? it flip-flops for me between s4 and s5, like right now i think it's s5 but idk if i could actually pick one or the other as my absolute favorite

What’s a plot hole you wish had been answered or resolved? i would give my left arm to know how the fuck (and why the fuck) mickey started rolling with his dad again in post-prison s10 era, like in 10x08 he's going to terry for advice on how to protect ian, just for terry to try to kill him again 3 episodes later ??? make it make sense john wells i'm under your bed

What scene or moment do you feel isn’t discussed enough? personally i think the promise ring scene in 10x09 is criminally underrated and not talked about nearly enough, like you don't understand how happy that scene made me (stay with me here) seeing mickey stand up and fight for the future he really wants with ian and not settling for anything less

What line/dialogue/description from something else (a poem, a book, a tv show, a movie, or something else) do you feel describes Ian and Mickey’s relationship? can i do song lyrics? i'm gonna do song lyrics--i've always thought the song godlight by noah kahan was very gallavich, especially the chorus, and especially during s4/5/6 era and it may or may not be a piece of inspiration for my big bang canon divergent fic

What do you think is next for Ian and Mickey post-finale? i think they take a while to really settle into their new place and and make it their own, and it's a bit of an adjustment (for both of them) to fit in with this new crowd and this new environment, but they're learning how to grow and evolve together and at the end of the day that's all that really matters to the both of them

tagging: literally anyone who wants to play bc my brain is tired and i am too tired to try and remember everyone i probably should tag

#gallavich meta #gallavich questions

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thestupidhelmet · 10 months ago

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I know we talk about Jackie and Eric being a thing in fanfiction. But how much of a game changer would it have been if it happened in real life? How would casual fans take to a J/E romance? Would ratings go up, or down?

This answer went far beyond the scope of the question. 😄

When the show originally aired, down. ⬇️ The majority of the fanbase shipped Eric/Donna and Jackie/Hyde while Eric/Jackie shippers were fringe.

Today, with new generations of fans -- still down but, perhaps, slightly less. The majority of fans still ship Eric/Donna and Jackie/Hyde. But Jackie/Eric shippers have increased and are more active in fandom.

J/H shippers have been and are far more active in making fanworks (fanfic, .gifsets, art, etc.) than Eric/Donna fans, but that could be due to Eric and Donna being together in some romantic aspect since "That '70S Pilot" (1x01) and are ultimately endgame in the series finale.

In contrast, T7S fans recognized the chemistry between Jackie and Hyde as early as "The Keg" (1x06) and began shipping them around then. Fanfic followed to explore the romantic possibilities. "The Best Christmas Ever" (1x12), for example, establishes Jackie experiences some kind of sexual attraction toward Hyde (however minor). "Ski Trip" (1x13) establishes Jackie's emotional connection to Hyde (however minor).

And "Prom Night" (1x19) blows the doors open for Jackie and Hyde. Recognizing the other's humanity overrides their antagonism. They find each other aesthetically appealing. Jackie trusts Hyde when she's most vulnerable e and isn't let down. In fact, he goes above and beyond -- to the point of reconciling her and Kelso despite in previous episodes trying to convince Kelso to drop her. Hyde exhibits significant empathy toward Jackie, and the ship was sea-worthy.

Eric and Jackie canonically treat each other like bickering siblings who insult each other (to each other's face amd behind the other's back). Jackie is sexually and aesthetically repulsed by Eric, and Eric is repulsed by Jackie's personality.

Their few times bonding stems from Eric's compassion for people in general, Jackie being obsessed with getting married and enjoying the shopping process, and the writers wanting to get a laugh from the audience.

For an Eric and Jackie romance to work canonically, the writers would have to develop and substantiate the changes in their characters over half a season of episodes, at least. Thirteen episodes (T7S aired back when shows had seasons of 26 episodes, split into thirteen for the fall/winter and spring/early summer halves of a season.)

That doesn't mean fanfic writers can't and haven't accomplished the above in their stories. But a romantic Eric/Jackie pairing simply isn't built into the show in any way.

Over the years, I've gone from finding the ship physically repulsive (my stomach actually tensed in an unpleasant manner 😅) to enjoyable in a well-written fanfic. Just because a relationship ship isn't show!canon doesn't mean it can't work if it's written well in fanfic. By that same token, well-written fanfic doesn't inject canonicity into the show. It might project it onto the show, but it can't create what doesn't exist.

Interestingly, the potential for a Jackie/Fez romantic relationship is built into the show (long before the OOC season 8). Their pairing in fanfic can be considered following show!canon.

I don't ship Jackie/Fez at all romantically, but I can't dismiss what's in the show. Whereas I enjoy the Eric/Jackie ship in specific cases, but the show well-establishes their romantic (and sexual) incompatibility.

For more about Jackie and Fez's relationship on T7S, check out the following meta:

#that 70s show #that '70s show #jackie x hyde #jackie x eric #jackie burkhart #ask #anon #my meta #my essay #meta #essay

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disdaidal · 1 year ago

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Tag game: tag 9 people you want to get to know better.

Tagged by my love @lovebillyhargrove .💙💜 Thank you so much, honey. :3

Favourite colour: Turquoise and purple. I love different shades of aqua and dark purple to light lavender.

Last song: "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off" by Jermaine Stewart

Currently reading: I've just about devoured all the 18 Gallahir fics that are on ao3, and I need more. I'm on a mission to also comment the ones that I really liked (already started), because writers deserve love. ♥

Last movie: I don't know if you can really call it watching a movie if you end up skipping 3/4 of it just to see a familiar face (but it was worth it. kind of), so... Girl Asleep (2015).

Sweet/spicy/savoury: Savoury. Sweet and spicy are great, but good flavor is more important.

Currently working on: I should be working on school stuff (because my new school's starting soon and I've had all summer to finish and send the given assignments, but nah) and other important stuff that actually matters, BUT. Instead of I'm working on some new gifsets that might get reblogged by 5 people if even that if I get lucky, but it's all good because I have a new hyperfixation and I'm making them mostly for self-indulgent reasons now, so. And since I've been reading Gallahir fics lately and there aren't many, I've thought about starting/writing my own. I've already planned it in my head, I have the general idea for it and I know how I'm going to finish it, but. I don't know. My insecurity and criticism towards my own writing has once again started creeping in and taking control, so, uh. We'll see. But I'd really like to.

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I am going to be incredibly lazy now and not tag anyone because I honestly don't know who to tag anymore and who even wants to do these. Nor do I want to pressure anyone into doing these. 🙈 So please, if you want to take this, consider yourselves tagged by me. ♥

#replies #lovebillyhargrove #tag games #i got tagged #i probably should've tagged some #because i've been tagged to a lot of things for the past few months or so and i've failed to answer them #and i'm sorry <3 i really am

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braceletofteeth · 2 years ago

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Tag 9 people you want to get to know better

I was tagged by @kissporsche 💕💕 which made me really happy because a few months ago they initiated a conversation with me and I was too much of an introvert to keep it going, so I had thought then that I had lost my chance at friendship forever 🥲

Three Ships

The (un)holy trinity: Hannigram (from Hannibal), Jongmoon (from Strangers From Hell) and VegasPete (from KinnPorsche).

First Ever Ship

It's hard to pinpoint the exact pair... Hmm... I'll tell you about the first one I remember being obsessed about, as in reading all the fics available about them-obsessed. I was eleven? Twelve? Anyway. That would be Cato and Clove, from The Hunger Games. They were not canon in the book (or the movie! They were done SO dirty in the movie!!! I CAN'T EVEN FIND A GIF OF THEM TOGETHER TO INCLUDE HERE 😤), there were just one (or two?) moments that could be interpreted like that, if you had a wild imagination 😅 Fortunately, at that time, me, and a bunch of other kids who enjoyed the tragedy of it all, read too much into it.

So, while everyone else was discussing the love triangle of the main characters or shipping themselves with Finnick Odair, we were in a dark corner crying and throwing up because of two kids who were raised to become killing machines—the star-crossed lovers from District 2, as we liked to call them.

Last Song

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Keep Asking Me, by Francis Well. It has a feeling similar to Little House On The Hill, so I think of them as sisters.

Last Movie

Cherry Magic: The Movie. I had already forgotten the gifsets I had seen about it, months ago, so everything was a surprise.

[spoiler alert] My favorites scenes were the ones of Adachi and Kurosawa meeting each other's families, even though it seemed like my heart was going to jump out of my chest in both occasions 😀

Currently Reading

Making my way through the PrapaiSky tag on AO3 (meaning I'm reading literally anything and everything that sounds slightly interesting).

Currently Watching

1. GAP. I haven't watched the most recent episode yet, but it seems we're reaching the climax of the story. I'm already dreading the moment I'll have to let go of all my girls (+ Mon's step-father) :(

2. Star & Sky Series. I've finished Star in My Mind, and I'll start Sky in Your Heart (which is the part two? the spin-off?) soon (allegedly. Never trust a 'soon' coming from me).

3. TharnType. Only a few more episodes to go. Absolutely bonkers show.

4. Summer Strike. The healing type that I had been saving for when I needed it most.

5. Beyond Evil. I had been saying for a long time that I was going to rewatch BE, but never got around to do it (16 episodes! Who has the time!!). My brother was browsing Netflix looking for something for us to watch together, and suggested BE. I thought he was joking (he has already rewatched it 5 or 6 times by himself 🙃), so I agreed, also joking. Turns out, he wasn't joking 😀😀 So now we're watching it again (*in my first time, I watched it with him as well). It's been a really different experience, watching it from the perspective of someone who knows what they should be paying attention to (I wish I had forgotten the details so I could enjoy the unpredictable mystery again, but it seems I still remember most of it 😅) .

Currently Consuming

Crackers.

Currently Craving

Eight (or more) hours of sleep. No waking up because of freezing temperatures, bad dreams, or the men working on a new floor for my neighbour's house in the early hours of the morning.

... I haven't had one of those in a while 😞

Tagging

Since it's people I'd like to get to know better, I'll tag the blogs I started following more recently: @saturnskyline @leporschespam @ronandhermy @teakrush @stillqueerstillhere (it's absolutely okay to ignore this, though 😊✌)

**If there aren't 9 it's because I'm bad at math.

#tag game #who would read all this #if you got to the end of it I'm giving you a chocolate medal

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surrexi · 1 year ago

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okay let's see since my accidental grad school related hiatus my average original post notes amount is, like, really low. i haven't been making much art and a lot of my mutuals from back in the day are either no longer active or not in the fandoms that i'm making text posts about.

also: my 14k+ notes neil patrick harris/lin manuel miranda 2013 tony awards opening gifset is an outlier and should not be counted, so i'm subtracting it from my stats lol

so i've got 33,832 posts with 31,048 reblogs (tumblr user since 2009 baybee!). of the remaining 2,784 posts, one is the aforementioned outlier. the rest is a mix of very-low note count posts from my very early days, very-low note count posts bc they're random personal musings, mostly low note fandom text posts, and a mix of semi-successful art posts from various fandoms (both "edits" which are still fanart goddammit and gifsets, but from the days when gifsets were still size-limited and weren't elaborate edits that moved).

so my average notes per post is 13.06, but that's including a lot of posts i never expected to get more than a handful of replies from my long-time mutuals bc they were just text posts about my life. like, i get the feeling that a lot of people currently maintain several side blogs to do all the things we used to do on single blogs--personal posts, random reblogs, fandom reblogs, fandom text and art posts, etc.

my top non-outlier gifset (aka my 2nd most successful post) is a damon/elena morning after gifset with 1,166 notes; this eleventh doctor screencap edit is my top non-gifset post with 820 notes, and this critical role campaign 3 text post that aabria reblogged is my top text post with 732 notes.

if you wanna see all my art and gifsets, check out my stuff i made tag! the most recent thing i posted was this darklina edit to go along with the fifth chapter of my darklina wip, and it got, uh, 13 notes. it's fine i'm fine. looking back at that tag is also interesting because the immediate drop in my fandom productivity after i started grad school in the summer of 2014 is stunning. don't go to grad school, it's a trap. (i mean, go if you want but, like. it's a trap.) so the vast majority of my stuff is from 2013 and before. but still, check it out i guess.

i might copy this info into a different (original, lol) post at some point and also do a deeper look into my favorite stuff i've made, idk. it's nice to revisit the pre-grad school version of my tumblr lol. if nothing else i'm interested in the average notes of my actual "stuff i made" tag without all the random non-fandom text posts. plus revisiting stuff i've made before might help me get back into making stuff. i miss it, but grad school did a number on me there.

eta: the third to last option says 500-999 shhh

how to find the number: use this page to calculate the total number of notes your original posts have gotten, then divide by the number of original posts (and round the result however you see fit). here's mine as an example:

so i divide 142,200 by 626 and get 227.16, which i then round to 227 average notes per post

#tumblr stuff #about me #on tumblr specifically #also thanks to aabria for reblogging that one cr text post so that my top fandom text post was actually in my top ten posts lol

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mazelopez · 6 years ago

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Thoughts on julia/margo?

Summer: They like each other. [x]

#userem #themagiciansedit #the magicians #magiciansfemslash #julia x margo #julia wicker #margo hanson #dynamic: i sort of admire you #gifs #mine #my gifsets #fire //#i've been wanting to make this gifset since summer answered my q #but then they didn't interact until now fml

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spikedru · 3 years ago

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hey i wanted to ask! bc i remember you saying how you felt about spuffy but you hadn't rewatched s7 yet. did that affect how you saw them at all? also if you're okay answering, what do you think of seeing red? I've recently begun to think of it as. kind of out of character. like i know spuffy was downward spiraling but it kind of felt like seeing red was "what should we have happen so that things get super bad and spike goes and gets a soul" and not actually something that spike would. have really done? idk. I'm not a spuffy fan but i do think things about that episode

i still havent actually rewatched s7 lol i had been rewatching s6 back in march last year but stopped right before riley showed up again and didnt get around to picking it back up haha. ill probably think about doing a full series rewatch and liveblog after i graduate college (so sometime during the summer) and actually try to get through to the end

that being said i have not actually sat down and rewatched seeing red since the first time i watched the series. so. almost a decade ? at this point ? if thats any indication of how i feel about that episode. it has been a while. its on par with the body in terms of episodes that i never really want to rewatch (though for completely different reasons, obviously) more thoughts below

the way i tend to view seeing red is that of poorly thought through shock value writing. i agree with you in that it feels like a writers decision to have the worst thing happen in order to motivate spike to seek his soul, and not something that feels correct to the character. already by that point you have spike reflecting on their tryst and realizing the way things were was not making either of them truly happy, so it would not take that much prodding for him to realize something had to change. there are other ways to get spike to his breaking point without having to subject buffy to sexual violence. even though their relationship was volatile and played with gray areas of consent, i never got the impression that spike would truly violate buffy's consent. i think writing in an attempted rape affects the way the audience views them on a much deeper level than the writers were expecting. because, a lot of the trauma that buffy endures through the show, while very real to her, has a fantasy element that places a layer of separation from the audience. most people cannot understand the despair of having to send your boyfriend to actual Hell, or the betrayal of being ripped from actual Heaven by your friends. but there are members of the audience who do know the terror and betrayal of sexual violence by their partner. so i think that aspect wasnt taken into serious enough account when deciding to have your main characters love interest and general audience favorite do something so realistically deplorable. thats why i think it was mainly a shock value decision rather than based in any way the character would actually act. not even to mention the fact like. most everyone else in the production hating having to film it and james marsters has said because of SR he will never do a scene like that ever again he hated it that much.

from the refresher ive seen of s7 (from people gifsets and spuffy scenes and meta about spike, the soul, and buffy etc) i wish we had got more of a buildup to a true spuffy reconciliation. there is so much happening in s7. so much that a lot tends to get lost or not as much time focused on in order to get to the very end. i do really think that buffy was incredibly moved and touched by spikes decision to get his soul back. personally i think the choice to get the soul is more impactful than the soul itself, as it demonstrates how remorseful spike is over the AR and his willingness to atone for it without expecting anything in return. and how buffy recognizes that and thats why shes able to forgive him and let him back into her life. but because there are only 22 episodes to fit plot into the reconciliation happens just. a little too quick. i had wished that. idk. it happened over 2ish seasons? so we see spike struggling to reconcile with his soul just a lil bit longer and him settling with it and buffy seeing that struggle while still wanting him around. idk. a lot of my problems with s7 come from pacing issues. while i have my problems with s7 as a whole, i do generally like the spuffy progression in it, even if i wanted it to take a lil longer. in all of buffys past relationships, there are things that happened that make her believe that she is somehow responsible for her partners turning bad, or thinking she is somehow lesser for being with them. but learning that spike got his soul back for her, something she views as essential and good, it shocks her that she could inspire someone to change that much for the betterment of themselves. and because of that she can truly trust him enough to love him completely.

so like long story short i hate that seeing red involved sexual violence and i wish there had been some other way to get to the point of spike realizing he needs to change, but considering the way s7 went i dont think it changes my perspective on their relationship that much. i think spike and buffy are one of the most interesting relationships on the show just by how much they change themselves and each other by being in their lives, and thats why im so invested in them

#very sorrry if this is rambly or doesnt make sense but i hope i answered your question !#asks #seeing red /

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artemisocs · 2 years ago

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Hi! I've been following your blog a bit and I would just love to hear more about Laurie!!! Especially since I've been wanting to make more friends in this community <3 Can you please tell me about her relationships with the boys in the show? Especially Steve, Billy, and eventually Eddie? ~ Emma

Hi!! thank you so much for the ask, I've been wanting to make more friends here too <3

and hell yes let's go!! This was a lot more detailed than I meant for it to be, but I hope that you enjoy it!

Billy:

I can't talk about any of Laurie's relationships without talking about Billy so let's just start there! Billy and Laurie are this weird codependent asshole duo who love and hate each other and can't live without one another. They had a history before their parents got together, and adapted pretty quickly to being step-siblings. While they both tried to keep Max away from Neil, Laurie is all too aware of his abusive nature and is usually the one to patch Billy up. Laurie has also dealt with a lot of shit from Neil but his abuse towards her has always been verbal and not physical.

But then, Neil finds out that Laurie isn't straight. He and Susan were supposed to be away for a weekend but came back early and he caught her making out with another girl. Billy already knew that she wasn't straight and Max probably did too, but Neil flipped his shit. It's the only time he's gotten physical with Laurie, until Billy stepped in to defend her. The fight was intense and destructive and led to Max running away, and the combination of all three was the push for them to move to Hawkins. That's also why, in this gifset, Billy blames Laurie for California and Laurie says that it wasn't only her fault.

But because of Billy defending Laurie, Neil starts accusing Billy of being gay and cracks down way harder on him than ever before, which is why Billy turns into way more of an asshole in Hawkins. The two of them spent the entire drive (30 hours straight together rip) planning how to deal with things in Hawkins, which include immediately becoming popular and immediately cementing themselves as straight. Laurie planned to find the most popular boy in school and Billy planned to sleep his way through all of the popular girls, and both of them planned to be bitchy and untouchable.

But Billy got out of hand. After how badly both he and Laurie were hurt after their last fight with Neil, he’s become a lot more controlling of both of his sisters. He first opposes Laurie’s relationship with Steve because he’s just being a dick, but as season 2 progresses he starts to see Steve as someone who will get Laurie into trouble and seeks to prevent that at any cost. When Laurie starts acting weird and disappearing all the time, and then he finds her with Steve hiding Max and some other kids, he blames all of it on Steve even while Laurie tries to explain things to him. And while Billy is an asshole and has always bullied nerds, his intense anti-Lucas stance is less about his own racism (is he a racist asshole? yes. would he beat the shit out of a 13 year old in other circumstances? less likely in this fic specifically but fuck billy) and more because of a combination of “Neil is a racist asshole and Billy is trying to prove himself” and “if Neil finds out that Max is hanging out with him, it will be a repeat of The California Incident”. That being said, he doesn’t get let off the hook for anything, we just explore more of the why to his actions.

Ultimately, Billy is still an asshole but Laurie is kind of an asshole too and they’re assholes who have each other’s backs and are used to only being able to rely on each other. Season 3 will also go into more depth on their dynamic, with Billy’s possession and Laurie’s history coinciding to create an absolute shitshow of a summer for both of them.

Also, their dynamic alternates between “Billy being exasperated at Laurie being a brat” and “Laurie being exasperated at Billy not wearing shirts”, at all times they both think that they’re the responsible siblings and at all times they’re both wrong

(I also want to clarify that this fic won’t be ignoring or erasing the horrible things that Billy does, but it will be looking at why he behaves certain ways. He is held entirely accountable for his actions and they won’t just be brushed under the rug I actually hate him sm pls don’t expect billy-positivity around here)

Steve:

When Laurie first gets to Hawkins, she hears all about King Steve and immediately decides that he’s the perfect boy for her plan. He’s rich, he’s popular, he’s hot, what more could she want? But then she finds out that he isn’t actually popular anymore, and she becomes so much more curious. She’s heard about his girlfriend, but she can’t imagine that being enough to make him give up his crown, and she’s determined to figure him out. Also, the more Billy antagonizes him, the more interested Laurie gets, because she’s a little brat that way.

She definitely flirts with him a lot and Steve is never quite sure how to react. He’s got a girlfriend, and she’s Billy’s sister, but she’s also clever and snarky and fun, so he gives as good as he gets and they fall into an easy camaraderie that the rest of the school doesn’t entirely know how to handle. Steve certainly isn’t looking to be popular again, but he does regain a lot of his old cred just because the hot new girl is into him. But what other people don’t get is that so much of why Laurie continues to talk to him and befriend him is because he’s also the only person who doesn’t just see her as the hot new girl but actually sees that there’s more to her than that.

But they get a lot closer after the Halloween party! When Laurie sees Steve leaving, she follows him and ends up sitting in his passenger seat while they drive around Hawkins and talk, and they become so much closer in the process. A lot goes on in this scene, but the main points are that Laurie comforts Steve about his breakup and, when they get too close to the woods, Steve comforts Laurie through her panic attack. She opens up to Steve about the major blank spots in his memory and he talks, albeit vaguely, about what happened the year before (not the demogorgon but that Barb disappeared from his pool and all that), and ultimately he invites her to crash at his house that night since she doesn’t want to go home. She’s still with him the next day when they run into Dustin, which is how she gets pulled into the entire Upside Down mess.

I’ll spare you the outline of that entire plot because it’s super detailed and also not the point, but a lot of shit goes on there (especially at the lab) which really cements their bond, and then Billy shows up! Obviously shit is super complicated and messy there, but ultimately Laurie chooses to side with Steve and that’s a very big moment for her.

They get together somewhere between seasons 2 and 3 and are a confirmed couple by the start of summer! They’re endearingly obnoxious, not so couple-y that it’s annoying (except to Max) but very affectionate and spend all of their time together. Because of their respective traumas, they both take communication very seriously and are entirely open with each other, to the point of codependency. I haven’t decided which plot Laurie will be in but I’m leaning towards Billy, and I know that being separated causes a whole lot of stress and panic to both of them. Laurie does also essentially move in with Steve once he learns about Neil and the California incident, which only adds to the codependency. They’re very sweet and love each other very very much, but they’re also very much the affectionate bullying type and enjoy teasing and mocking each other.

Eddie:

Eddie and Laurie are very much like Steve and Eddie in that by all logic they shouldn’t be friends, but they click so well! They both act tough (in different ways) but have hearts of gold and soft spots for looking out for kids. During the manhunt Eddie assumes that Laurie is with Jason and co since she was friends with them, but she’s actually the first of the teenagers to 100% believe him. According to Laurie, she knows what real (human) monsters look like, and Eddie’s eyes are innocent. They aren’t sure how to act around each other for a while but get closer in the later episodes and volume two! They’re similar to Steve and Robin in the unexpected queer besties dynamic but god they’re so ride or die for each other, and Laurie gets into at least one impressive showdown with Jason on the subject!

also eddie doesn’t die because i said so and laurie saves him

The Party Boys:

Laurie is fiercely protective over these boys! Initially she meets them as Max’s friends and is just glad that her little sister is making friends, but between the demodogs, the lab, and Billy, she very quickly grows very protective and the big sister instinct totally kicks in. She becomes closest to Will, once he isn’t possessed, and becomes the first person that he talks to about his sexuality. She also bonds with El during season 3, where she’s babysitting Max and El, but this is about the boys! She also becomes close with Lucas, and continues to always protect and defend him from Billy, and in season 4 we see her showing up to every single one of Lucas’ games and is always cheering the loudest. She helps him adapt to being popular but also makes sure that he knows that if he ever feels uncomfortable or like he’s being pressured into anything, he can just call or walkie her and she will always show up! He’s only done it once, when he got pressured into drinking and then freaks out, but she drops everything immediately to go get him. She’s very worried about Max and she’s struggling with losing Billy, but she refuses to lose these kids that she’s grown to love so much and she works hard to stay in their lives and to make sure that they know they can always count on her.

Thank you so much again for the ask! This was probably a lot more information than you were looking for but once I started I couldn’t shut up! I was initially planning to write about Tommy, Jonathan, and Jason too, but I figured this was already long enough so I ended up cutting them haha

#oc ask #laurie ask #starlightocs #oc: laurie mayfield #laurie & billy #laurie x steve #laurie & eddie #laurie & will #laurie & mike #laurie & lucas #laurie & dustin

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zainclaw · 3 years ago

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for the fic ask thingy: 👀 📊📚👩‍🏭 i am curious and loving the buddie fic so far also i have not seen an episode of 911, I just consume this series through your blog what you say happened, happened

Oh my god, haha, bless you <333

👀 Do you have any WIPs that you would never let see the light of day? If yes, what are they about?

I have none that I wouldn't let see the light of day, like by choice? Just ones that I'm not sure I'll ever get around to finish, although I want to.

Like my military background Arthur/Eames fic that I've been trying to make happen since the summer of 2019. (I made a gifset for it here.) I still have quite a lot written for this one already, even went back to it briefly only this year, but it's going so so slow every single time, so sadly I'm not sure it'll ever happen...

📊 Current number of WIPs?

So many.

📚 Do you read your own fic?

Hell yeah!

👩‍🏭 If one of your fics was going to get you arrested, which one and why?

Lmao, none I think??? Unless someone's gonna get upset about the age difference between Derek and Stiles in MAM. Stiles is still 18, but yeah. I think that whole mystery about how old Derek really is that lasts the entire fic is the most scandalous thing I've ever written.

fanfic ask game

#ask game

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jiangwanyin · 3 years ago

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check up tag! :)

i was tagged by @zelkam thank you so much! 🧡

how has your day been?

very much the same as all my days lately, a not entirely unpleasant but also not particularly outstanding amalgam of putting up with the heat, struggling with having shit digestion on top of which i started my period today asdsgdj and doing a solid amount of reading, a bit of giffing, watching two episodes of mctna and just vibing on here as usual enjoying cql's two year anniversary and all the gorgeous gifsets 😌

what was the last thing that made you smile?

i finally started reading tgcf two days ago and i'm a d d i c t e d, i'm still only just finishing book one but literally every single hualian moment makes me smile like an idiot so 🥰🥰

if you’re in quarantine/self-isolation, is there anything you’d like to achieve in this time?

i'm not /technically/ in quarantine but unfortunately i'm ill and most days too sick to go out anyways so the self isolation period never really ended for me and i'm stuck at home until i get better and i haven't been vaccinated yet either but there absolutely is, i'm generally way too ambitious so i've been trying a more chill attitude and just taking care of myself but i do have a whole list of things ranging from more serious ones like studying for school and starting therapy to more self indulgent ones like attempting to teach myself chinese and going through a lengthy list of books and movies and tv shows

post a selfie (only if you’re comfortable!)

alright these are like two weeks old but i don't have anything more recent or without snapchat filters since the summer always makes my acne worse and i'm self conscious but here you go i'm terrible at talking horizontal pictures but one vertical one is too big so you're getting 2 for the price of 1

i’m tagging @passingthetime @xie-wang @thcrin and @manwesbreath & else who wants to do it but as always no pressure especially with the posting selfies bit!! 💓💓

#okay this took me unnecessarily long sorry #also just don't look at my skin okay some things can't be helped even by snapchat filters #tag games #wait what's my face tag #oh right #angie.jpg

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onetine · 3 years ago

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Tagged by @dreamxeyes who I'm very excited to be able to harass in person at some point this summer. I'm forcing you to play horror games with me at some point this year! You can't escape!

1. Why did you choose your url? Tine was my nickname growing up (it's phonetically short for Tiny) and I started adding the one to meet username length minimums

2. Any sideblogs? Technically yes, but I never use them

3. How long have you been on tumblr? goodness apparently since Jan 2011. That just doesn't seem right.

4. Do you have a queue tag? nah, I queue almost everything i post, but I don't tag it as queued

5. Why did you start your blog in the first place? People were gravitating off of livejournal (how to say you're an internet grandma without saying you're an internet grandma) to tumblr and if I recall correctly I think that's when LJ was sold to a company in Russia and things started getting weird? I was following the trend and now you can't get me off of this site

6. Why did you choose your icon or pfp? BMO is my fav Adventure Time character back in the day, and I've never bothered to change them out. Fun fact I am Very Lazy

7. Why did you choose your header? My header is a picture of the underside of a giant leaf I took while visiting a local conservatory. I love the color and pattern on it, but I can't say I put much thought into what I was choosing

8. What’s your post with the most notes? No idea, I mostly reblog stuff on here and yell in the tags, not posting content

9. How many mutuals do you have? More then 5 less then 100

10. How many followers do you have? Also more then 5 less then 500

11. How many people do you follow? 151, I'm a big fan of Marie Kondoing my feeds so it tends to shrink and grow as my interests wanders

12. Have you ever made a shitpost? I've made a million shit comments because I am a pest, but I still rarely do more then reblog so not exactly

13. Do you use tumblr everyday? Pretty much. I don't use other social media anymore, but I like popping on here for a few mins in my downtime to see what fun new gifsets have happened across my dash so I can add even more shows to my never ending to watch list

14. Did you have a fight/ argument with another blog? Nah, I'm on here for a good time, not to argue. There's a reason I'm not on any of the other social medias. I just want to see some gifsets pretty people tenderly touching hands and almost incomprehensible memes

15. How do you feel about ‘you need to reblog posts’? I generally ignore them. While I think people generally have good intentions, a lot of posts on here aren't researched at all, and those posts rarely do more then make people add to their anxiety or guilt

16. Do you like tag games? Freakin' love them! I am 110% for answering any and all random inane questions. Ask me to fill out a tag, or put a picrew in front of me and I'm endlessly entertained

17. Do you like ask games? I like the idea, but I think they tend to get lost in the shuffle and most people miss or ignore them

18. Which of your mutuals do you think is tumblr famous? All of my mutuals who write fic, or create gifsets, or create anything at all are all famous in my heart

19. Do you have a crush on a tumblr mutual? I have a crush on all of you. Don't talk to me or I'll blush. Or talk to me and I'll tell you my thoughts on literally any topic. One of the two

20. Tags: everyone who wants to!

#about tine #speaking of the name Tine do you know how strange it was for me to find a popular character who uses it as a nickname as well?#Tine in 2gether may have been the entire reason i gave the show a shot #and then i fell down the whole thai bl rabbit hole last year with everyone #and that's morphing into this whole love of other asian dramas #my weird nickname is the reason i watched 90% of what I've watched in the 2020s

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Hi! This might sound a little silly, but I've been seeing a lot of gifsets about Ned's quote about Sansa and Arya being as different as the son and the moon and in them Sansa's the sun and Arya's the moon. I understand the aesthetic reason for the sorting, but I was wondering if there was a meta reason for it. I think both of their arcs could have the traditional sun and the moon parallels. Your thoughts?

I also got this anon within about 24 hours of your ask (was there a wank I was blissfully unaware of?):

Hey, I really love your thoughts on the stark sisters. This might be a silly ask, but who do you think reflects the moon better and who the sun? I know Ned’s words were more metaphoric than literal, but I always see edits with one sister being the sun and the other the moon, which always vary on which one is which. I can never decide. Do you have a preference?

Before I get into this, I… don’t really have a horse in this race tbh, largely because I think that focusing on the imagery in that line is missing the point of what Ned is saying. He’s not necessarily saying “one of you is the sun and one of you is the moon,” he’s saying “you are as different as” so I think of it more as a poetic turn of phrase more than anything else.

But since you’re asking here are longer thoughts on the matter, the ones I do have go into symbolism as it appears for Sansa and Arya respectively.

The Quote Itself + Context

“Let me tell you something about wolves, child. When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives. Summer is the time for squabbles. In winter, we must protect one another, keep each other warm, share our strengths. So if you must hate, Arya, hate those who would truly do us harm. Septa Mordane is a good woman, and Sansa … Sansa is your sister. You may be as different as the sun and the moon, but the same blood flows through both your hearts. You need her, as she needs you … and I need both of you, gods help me.”

He sounded so tired that it made Arya sad. “I don’t hate Sansa,” she told him. “Not truly.” It was only half a lie. (Arya II, AGOT)

The first time that the reader ever encounters this quote about Arya and Sansa, there’s some very specific context going on.

It occurs in Arya’s second POV chapter in the series, and it’s said by Ned to Arya. It’s not simply a descriptor, it’s a way to try and get Arya to not be angry with her sister.

Arya is angry with her sister. But, more importantly, Arya is upset with her sister:

“I don’t care about their stupid tourney,” Arya said. She knew Prince Joffrey would be there,and she hated Prince Joffrey.

Sansa lifted her head. “It will be a splendid event. You shan’t be wanted.”

Anger flashed across Father’s face. “Enough, Sansa. More of that and you will change mymind. I am weary unto death of this endless war you two are fighting. You are sisters. I expectyou to behave like sisters, is that understood?”

Sansa bit her lip and nodded. Arya lowered her face to stare sullenly at her plate. She could feeltears stinging her eyes. She rubbed them away angrily, determined not to cry. (Arya II, AGOT)

Ned very clearly is frustrated with the way that Sansa speaks to Arya in this moment; that doesn’t prevent Arya from wanting to cry. As the passage continues:

No one talked to Arya. She didn’t care. She liked it that way. She would have eaten her mealsalone in her bedchamber if they let her. Sometimes they did, when Father had to dine with theking or some lord or the envoys from this place or that place. The rest of the time, they ate in hissolar, just him and her and Sansa. That was when Arya missed her brothers most. She wanted totease Bran and play with baby Rickon and have Robb smile at her. She wanted Jon to muss upher hair and call her “little sister” and finish her sentences with her. But all of them were gone.She had no one left but Sansa, and Sansa wouldn’t even talk to her unless Father made her. (Arya II, AGOT)

Since they arrived in King’s Landing, Sansa has not spoken to Arya unless Ned makes her. From Sansa’s perspective, the reason is, ostensibly, that she sees Arya’s actions on the Trident as being the reason that Lady is dead (in a later chapter, she screams at Arya: “They should have killed you instead of Lady!”–she places her pain at Lady’s death on Arya because it is easier than confronting the fact that Joffrey is a complete shit and Sansa–throughout the series–is someone who tells herself what the truth should be in order to make reality easier for her to bear.)

But the result of all this is a sense of ostracism. Arya doesn’t feel comfortable around anyone, largely because no one–even Ned–understands her grief at Mycah’s death, and her sense of responsability in it.

Only that was Winterfell, a world away, and now everything was changed. This was the firsttime they had supped with the men since arriving in King’s Landing. Arya hated it. She hated thesounds of their voices now, the way they laughed, the stories they told. They’d been her friends,she’d felt safe around them, but now she knew that was a lie. They’d let the queen kill Lady, thatwas horrible enough, but then the Hound found Mycah. Jeyne Poole had told Arya that he’d cuthim up in so many pieces that they’d given him back to the butcher in a bag, and at first the poorman had thought it was a pig they’d slaughtered. And no one had raised a voice or drawn a bladeor anything, not Harwin who always talked so bold, or Alyn who was going to be a knight, orJory who was captain of the guard. Not even her father. (Arya II, AGOT)

So when Arya flees the dining room for her bedroom, and even contemplates running away she is so miserable, her father’s intercession has weight.

The weight of the passage above to me is not even necessarily about the sun and the moon and how different she and Sansa are–when Ned says “when the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives” in the series–the only time he says them to any of his children–it is to Arya about Sansa. He is creating in Arya the undeniable truth: that whatever she currently feels about Sansa, whatever their summertime “squabbles” are, Sansa is her pack, whether or not she likes it.

You may be as different as the sun and the moon, but the same blood flows through both your hearts. You need her, as she needs you … and I need both of you, gods help me.

And to drive the point home, he says that he needs them both.

The Sun and the Moon

I feel the context is helpful, largely because of how I think that it fits into greater symbolism in text. If you have “the sun” and “the moon” as explained here, it’s clearly supposed to evoke some imagery. (I like the point that @quentynnymerosmartell made a while back about how the sun and the moon are the main symbols on Brienne’s sigil, which ties back to her vow to Catelyn.)

There’s a lot of imagery–beyond Arya and Sansa–for it to evoke. The onset of winter means that there will be less sun in the sky period; if the long night comes again, it means there won’t be any sun at all. Having both implies a healthy state of the world writ large because you have both light and darkness–not to mention light in darkness.

You may be as different as…

An issue that I think rarely gets talked about in all the #discourse about Arya and Sansa (when there is #discourse about both of them in one go) is that frequently things stop around the “they’re just different” without going into the hows of it.

When it comes to symbolism, parallels, characterization–there are frequent explorations of similar themes but the mechanisms are almost impossible to talk about at the same time because they fundamentally rely on each girl’s approach to the world.

For Sansa, you have a character who approaches the world through narrative. She thinks in terms of songs and stories that she knows–both as regards the world around her and as she regards herself (“Be brave, she told herself. Be brave, like a lady in a song.”) She is a society child. She has been presented with a social infrastructure (Westerosi Patriarchy) and she adheres to it and thrives within it. She doesn’t question it, but when she encounters things that don’t fit in with what she’s been taught, she will adjust narratives around her to accomodate for the ills in society by redefining societal definitions to meet her needs (“He was no true knight.”) She has a recurring motif of birds, but what elemental motifs exist in her arc are depicted through societal structures more than they are depicted through nature itself.

Or, to use Bran’s(/Summer’s) words:

But his sister had left the wilds, to walk in the halls of man-rock where other hunters ruled, and once within those halls it was hard to find the path back out. (Bran I, ASOS)

If Sansa “left the wilds,” we have Arya (quoting from this seminal scene) who has a “wildness” in her. She has “the wolf blood.” She is the child who society had no place for and so had to carve her own existence out of whatever place she could find. She fundamentally questions most societal infrastructures and what they are present for and why they are present because she is someone who–even though she holds power on a structural level as a lady and as a princess–is still rejected by society as someone who doesn’t accept the role given her based purely on her gender.

So to me, it’s not just a “sun and moon” opposition, we have going on here, it’s a “society vs wilderness” that we have going on here–and that’s not even touching on things like their respective approach to truth and lies, their coping mechanisms (which are literally! the opposite! of each other’s!) and any number of other contrasts that you have between them.

Society

Let me start this with a point that I’ll come back to: I would argue that the moon is symbolic of nature, of wild, of mystery while the sun is symbolic of society. I look at this in terms of calendars: there are a number of lunar calendars that exist within our world: among them, there is frequently a leap month added every few years (how many years varies between cultures) in order to keep the calendar in line with the seasons. The solar calendar exists for the sake of society (when do you harvest, when do the seasons change) while the lunar exists because the moon exists.

I bring this up because I’m not going to be talking about the sun in any particularly meaningful way. Maybe I’ll come out of my asoiaf reread with a completely different perspective on this, but I don’t actually think that either sister has particularly pertinent sun imagery attached to her (which I think is part of why we have this question to begin with). It becomes, then, a question of how the moon appears in both storylines and what the moon symbolizes on a larger scale. I don’t think the moon represents society, which means that what moon imagery exists in Sansa’s storyline fundamentally challenges her worldview, while also being interwoven with it. It becomes then, in her case, a question of arguing–not for the sun–but rather arguing that the moon doesn’t quite fit, which I don’t think it does.

The main source of moon imagery in Sansa’s arc stems from House Arryn, whose sigil is is a falcon soaring against the moon.

The Vale itself has a ton of moon-related infrastructure, probably for this reason: You have the Gates of the Moon, the Moon Tower, the Moon Door, the Mountains of the Moon. You have this house–an important one for a lot of Sansa’s identity themes, her relationship with her father and with Petyr Baelish, with her aunt and herself–that has taken the moon and used it as a a supplementary part of the house’s symbolism. I say supplemental because I compare House Arryn’s sigil to House Martell’s: the sun is more important than the spear in House Martell’s sigil; the falcon is more important than the moon in House Arryn’s. To me, then, the moon becomes the servant of society, an artful backdrop to the falcon, a piece of nature who has been detached from its nature in order to perform its function.

And so that means that the moon is not so much the moon in Sansa’s storyline so much as the image of the moon. And I think that that very imagery is threatening to some extent.

You have the Moon Door, which is where Sansa almost lost her life and which, in AFFC, she’s still super stressed thinking about, and you have the Mountains of the Moon–where the Mountain Clans of the Vale have been hoping to use Lannister steel since AGOT to reclaim the Vale from the Andal society that wrested it from the control of the First Men thousands of years ago. You even have the simple fact of the lie about Sansa’s identity while she is in the Vale, and what might befall her if her identity is revealed in the wrong way. If you’re looking at symbolism, I see that as the moon challenging Sansa on a symbolic level, because Sansa is a character who operates within society and the moon is not symbolic of society.

But that means that if I have to pick a “sun” and a “moon,” I don’t think it fits that Sansa is the “moon”: I think it means that she is the sun, and that as winter approaches, as the days get shorter and the nights grow longer, she–and society as Westeros knows it–is going to have to adjust to a long winter and a long night where the main source of light is the moon.

Wild

There’s a lot of meat to moon symbolism. It is a symbol of womanhood–the lunar cycle frequently used to symbolize the menstrual–not to mention its ties to the tide and water. But if the sun is symbolic of society and the moon is symbolic of the wild, then “Ah, Arya. You have a wildness in you, child,” lines up evenly.

And it does: there are mentions of the moon in important ways in Arya’s arc. And, more importantly, it’s not symbols of the moon: it is the moon itself. Which means that that moon gets to carry the weight of all its own symbolism, without being detached from it through a sigil.

Arya takes comfort in the moon, even thinks that it is something that she can use as a way to guide her on her journey to wherever she’s going:

She carried neither candle nor taper. Syrio had told her once that darkness could be her friend, and he was right. If she had the moon and the stars to see by, that was enough. (Arya XI, ACOK)

It is associated with her burgeoning magic:

Sleep came as quick as she closed her eyes. She dreamed of wolves that night, stalking through a wet wood with the smell of rain and rot and blood thick in the air. Only they were good smells in the dream, and Arya knew she had nothing to fear. She was strong and swift and fierce, and her pack was all around her, her brothers and her sisters. They ran down a frightened horse together, tore its throat out, and feasted. And when the moon broke through the clouds, she threw back her head and howled. (Arya V, ASOS)

Except in dreams. She took a breath to quiet the howling in her heart, trying to remember more of what she’d dreamt, but most of it had gone already. There had been blood in it, though, and a full moon overhead, and a tree that watched her as she ran. (Mercy, TWOW)

It as used as a timekeeper during her training at the House of Black and White:

Cat would always find the kindly man waiting for her when she went creeping back to the temple on the knoll on the night the moon went black. (Cat of the Canals, AFFC)

When the moon was black she was no one, a servant of the Many-Faced God in a robe of black and white. (Cat of the Canals, AFFC)

On a symbolic level there, you have the simple fact that when there was no moon in the sky, Arya ceases to exist: she is “no one” and not any of her other personas, and given the simple fact of the theme of self effacement in Arya’s arc, I think its’s not wrong to say that the moon in the sky means that Arya is Arya. And this not even touching the fact of her wolf dreams (her burgeoning magic once again) as a touchstone for her while she’s blind and keeping her from truly sinking in to being “no one.” The moon becomes just one more part of that theme for Arya, and a part of it that roots her in her own identity.

And, lastly, it is something that is associated with–and which Arya herself associates with the Old Gods of the North:

Shoving her sword through her belt, she slipped down branch to branch until she was back on the ground. The light of the moon painted the limbs of the weirwood silvery white as she made her way toward it, but the five-pointed red leaves turned black by night. Arya stared at the face carved into its trunk. It was a terrible face, its mouth twisted, its eyes flaring and full of hate. Is that what a god looked like? Could gods be hurt, the same as people? I should pray, she thought suddenly. (Arya XI, ACOK)

The moon isn’t challenging Arya’s worldview, it is part of almost every single piece of symbolism in her arc, and is symbolically attached to her identity, her wildness, her magic, her skills in a way that the moon is not for Sansa.

Even innate in that moon symbolism in Arya’s arc, you have it existing in opposition to society and thriving.

So all this is to say…even beyond the optics of it (Sansa having the brighter coloring; Arya having the darker) if forced to, I read the moon as Arya and Sansa as the sun in that comment. I don’t think that the moon imagery in Sansa’s arc holds a candle to the moon symbolism in Arya’s arc, even if I don’t think that either has any particular emphasis on the sun in their arc.

#salazarastark #anonymous #arya stark #sansa stark #meta #arya meta #sansa meta #and i need you both gods help me #that awkward moment when you realize you've been misquoting that line for years #but you're gonna keep your tag bc you're attached #womp womp womp womp wopm lmao

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