#'talk it off podcast' ep 11

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"a photo of me of holding a rat by it's tail, and it's got a party hat on, would get me some likeys." - maxx dazinger

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Taylor & Travis Timeline

July 2023

July 1 - The Eras Tour ~ Paycor Stadium, Cincinnati, Night 2

Ivy ft. Aaron Dessner (guitar), I Miss You, I'm Sorry with Gracie Abrams, Call It What You Want (piano)

July 4 - America celebrates independence, Taylor gathers with friends at "Holiday House" Rhode Island - see Taylor IG post July 7 (x)

July 7 - Taylor Swift posts to IG (x). Famous last words...

Speak Now (Taylor's Version) released!

The Eras Tour ~ Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, Night 1

with guests Taylor Lautner, Joey King and Presley Cash who star alongside Taylor in the "I Can See You" music video (x)

Fan favourite "Long Live" is added to the set list. Taylor brings out the koi fish guitar and debuts the purple Speak Now dress.

Never Grow Up (guitar) & When Emma Falls In Love (piano)

July 8 - Travis Kelce attends The Eras Tour at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Night 2 (x)(x).

A custom painted Taylor Swift Eras Tour football helmet that was posted by the KC Chiefs (x)

Travis receives friendship bracelets from Swifties (x)

Last Kiss (guitar) & Dorothea (piano)

a grainy image of Travis, Patrick and friend in the private suite at Arrowhead for the Eras Tour.

July 11 - Taylor attends Questlove's games night (x) with her back up singer Melanie Nyema.

“Taylor, when she first played Uno with us, she took it to levels of excitement I didn’t know one could do in an Uno game.” —

Questlove on Hot Ones (2025) discussing his Uno parties

July 14 & 15 - The Eras Tour ~ Empower Field, Denver

N1 Picture To Burn (guitar) & Timeless (piano)

N2 Starlight (guitar) & Back To December (piano)

About You by the 1975 is taken off the preshow set list after Denver.

July 19 - Travis is photographed outside the members-only club Zero Bond in NYC (a favourite club of Taylor's) (x). Travis reposts this photo to IG on July 23 (x) See below.

July 22 & 23 - The Eras Tour ~ Lumen Field, Seattle

N1 This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things (guitar)(x) & Everything Has Changed (piano)(x)

N2 Message In A Bottle (guitar) & Tied Together With A Smile (piano)

July 23 - Travis and Jason record New Heights Ep.50 before leaving for training camp. Episode will be released on 26 July whilst boys are at camp.

Travis posts to IG with a series of thirst trap photos with the caption "Catch me on the move" Who you flirting with Trav? (x)

Travis Kelce attends training camp with the Kansas City Chiefs in preparation for the coming NFL season at Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph, MO. (see open to public training camp schedule x) Chiefs Train camp runs July 23 -Aug 17. Photos (x)

July 24, 25 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

July 26 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

New Heights podcast ep. 50 airs.

Travis expresses his disappointment that he didn’t get to meet Taylor and give her the friendship bracelet he had made with his number on it (x starting at 25:14)

"I was disappointed that she doesn't talk before or after her shows... so I was a little butthurt I didn’t get to hand her one of the bracelets I made for her…. I received a bunch of them being there but I wanted to give Taylor Swift one with my number on it" says Travis "Your number as in 87 or your phone number?" responds Jason "You know which one."

(photo of the exact moment Travis says "you know which one")

New Heights posted to Twitter

Jason comments on the New Heights instagram page, saying (x)

"Let’s be honest Taylor’s dad definitely made the right move not introducing her to Travis. He self admitted was trying to slip her his number on a friendship bracelet, truly shameful act"

July 28 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

The Eras Tour ~ Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara N1

Right Where You Left Me (guitar) & Castles Crumbling (piano)

July 29 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

Taylor posts to TT (x) where she is wearing a red and yellow t-shirt - coincidence??? The TT has the track Ridin' by Chamillionaire with lyrics "Tryna catch me ridin' dirty". Interesting choice for a song considering Travis' IG post on July 23 (see above).

The Eras Tour ~ Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara N2

Stay Stay Stay (guitar) & All Of The Girls You Loved Before (piano) - check out Taylor’s grin when she sings that football helmet line! (x x) ... Taylor did you reach out to a certain football player?

"That's when you came in wearing a football helmet and said 'OK let's talk'"

July 30 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

July 31 - Chiefs Training Camp, St Joseph, MO

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Swoon: The I Feel You Linger in the Air Episode

And we're back!

NiNi and Ben bring Ginny back to the recording booth to discuss Tee Bundit's final offering of the year. We discuss our differing responses to historical romance, the difficulties with articulating big emotions from shows, and the balancing of political messaging with romance.

Come and join us for probably the most distant NiNi and Ben have found themselves as we discuss I Feel You Linger in the Air.

Timestamps

The timestamps will now correspond with chapters on Spotify for easier navigation.

00:00:00 - Introduction 00:01:20 - I Feel You Linger in the Air: Big Damn Romance 00:21:35 - Depictions of Intimacy 00:30:21 - Head vs. Heart 00:37:37 - Beyond the Romance and Story Integration 00:49:15 - Anticipating the Special (Or Not) 00:54:08 - Final Thoughts

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00:00:00 - Introduction

NiNi

Welcome to The Conversation About BL, aka The Brown Liquor Podcast.

Ben

And there it is. I’m Ben.

NiNi

I’m NiNi.

Ben

And we’re you’re drunk Caribbean uncle and auntie here sitting on the porch in the rocking chairs.

NiNi

Four times a year we pop in to talk about what’s going on in the BL world.

Ben

We shoot the shit about stories and all the drama going into them. I review from a queer media lens.

NiNi

And I review from a romance and drama lens.

Ben

So if you like cracked-out takes and really intense emotional analysis…

NiNi

If you like talking about artistry, industry, and the discourse…

Ben

And if you generally just love simping…

NiNi

There is a lot of simping on this podcast…

Ben

We are the show for you!

00:01:20 I Feel You Linger in the Air: Big Damn Romance

NiNi

We are back. Welcome to our Swoon episode of the podcast, and on Swoon we are going to be talking about a big damn romance which is not something that we get to talk about a lot in BL. To help us do that, Ben and I have a special guest and our special guest is, duh-duh-duh-duh, Ginny! Say “hi,” Ginny. 

Ginny

Hello!

NiNi

Ginny is here with us because Ginny is also into the big damn romance. So, we’re here to talk I Feel You Linger in the Air. 

Ben, break it down for us. What is I Feel You Linger in the Air about?

Ben

I Feel You Linger in the Air is a historical romance set in 1928 Chiang Mai, where a young man from our timeframe ends up in the past, and ends up working for a very rich family that seems to have some sort of lordship over the region at the time. Our protagonist’s name is Jom. He is an interior designer who's been living in Chiang Mai waiting for his boyfriend to come back from England for a couple of years, and then his boyfriend comes back with some girl and its like, “Yeah, she's pregnant. We're over. Sorry, bro.” Jom has a no good, very bad day and then goes off a bridge into the river. And then a hot guy with a bunch of tattoos kisses him, and then he somehow wakes up in the past? Uh, didn't really wake up and past, he exits a river in the past, and then drama ensues. 

He ends up stuck, makes a couple of friends, catches the eye of the young son of the lord of this area, and ends up becoming close to him, and finds something very meaningful in this time period, which is also strange for him because of reincarnation. Lots of people that are important to him are in this time period, but as very different people who do not know him. This ends up being used for a lot of social and political commentary, some of it very subtle, some of it not so subtle, and I guess that's mostly the show.

NiNi

So, Ginny, how’d you feel about this show?

Ginny

I had a great time with this show. It was so beautiful from beginning to end. The settings were gorgeous, the music was gorgeous. Even when it was from The Nutcracker—

[NiNi laughs]

—it was one of the most—[Ginny laughs]—sorry. It was one of the most lush feeling dramas we've gotten in BL. The whole historical setting just felt very rich and detailed. Really felt like you were soaking in it. It's kind of a slow pace, but I didn't mind that and I felt like it worked with the setting and with the big romance historical story that they were trying to tell. 

In the first five or so episodes, I did feel like the romance was the weakest part, but as soon as those boys got together and we were in more of an established relationship situation, it was gorgeous. The intimacy was incredible. They got to me deep in the heart parts; really enjoyed it.

NiNi

I had a great time with it. I love a big damn romance. I've been reading big damn historical romance basically my whole life, and this captured the feeling that you get reading a big damn historical romance. There was a hint of the epic to it in certain parts. There were quiet moments in there that were really, in some ways, very romantically profound that kind of got me, like Ginny said, deep in the heart parts. I had a fabulous time. 

Ben, how about you?

Ben

So, I don't like historical romance in general. I do not romanticize the past, particularly the not-so-distant past, and it makes it often very hard for me to enjoy historical romance. I'm Black, and I'm from the US, and I grew up in the South. And so it is really difficult for me to really enjoy historical romance because these large gaps in power, often, between the characters, do not work for me. It often makes me extremely uncomfortable. I understand that the context of this caste system in Thailand are different than what Black Americans experienced in my home country, but Jom's arc to me can be blandly described as him landing in the past and being upgraded to preferred house slave, and that is something I struggle with even as there's a lot of stuff in the show that I really like. The undercurrent of that really bothers me. 

I also end up struggling with the end of this show when I reflect on Jom's journey because it's a very tragic story for me in a way that isn't cathartic. Like, I am still left with an intense melancholy coming out of this show that I have not been able to shake. And the parts of it that were really beautiful and enjoyable I don't think have unstuck me from how kind of sad for Jom and Yai I feel.

NiNi

It's interesting that the feeling that you're left with is sort of a melancholy, sort of a sadness, because that's not where I landed on it at all. Why the feeling of melancholy in particular?

Ben

Jom is yanked into the situation for reasons we don't understand, and then he is yanked out of this situation for reasons we don't understand. And so Yai has the unfortunate queer experience of deeply loving someone and having them ripped away from him. And he never really gets over that? Judging by his own letter to Jom that has passed down. And then for Jom, he's 25, he blew two years waiting on an ain’t shit motherfucker in Ohm, crashes his car, ends up in the past, has a very bad time, and then has a less bad time because of Yai. And then Yai is taken from him. And at least in the show, Jom gets back to our time frame. 

The show remembers that Ueangphueng was his sister. He gets to eat some crepes, he gets to tell Ohm, “I don't care anymore. I just spent eight months as a slave. Whatever. You can go marry that girl.” Then he gets yanked even further back to the past? 

I don't need the show to tell me why things should happen, per se…but this is a very familiar experience, having grown up in queer cinema, where a bunch of sad shit happens, and then the fucking thing is over and you're like, “Oh. Well, that was something.”

Ginny

So I did go into the show wary because I knew it was a time travel romance and the trailers looked real melancholy. They had this ode to eternal parting about them. It definitely tells you what it's gonna do from the beginning. I do feel you, especially with Yai. I'm not entirely satisfied with where they leave that Yai in the past. 

I feel like Jom has a whole journey ahead of him, and he did get some healing from his own trauma, but I didn't love that they left us with this heavy sadness and pining. It didn't have to be a romantic happy ending. They did give some pointers towards maybe what he did politically that also pointed to some real Thai figures that apparently were historically influential. But I would have liked to see a little more hope and uplift in Yai’s side after Jom leaves him, because we're meant to believe that Jom changed everybody's life. He inspired Yai to sit up and take notice of the world, to pay attention to some of the injustices around him. And I would have liked to see at least more of the positive side of that from where we leave him in the past. I didn't expect that they were going to get to live their lives out forever; that was kind of never in the cards. But they did leave Yai, in particular, in a pretty melancholy place, and I'm not sure how intentional that was, that that was the full impression we were left with.

NiNi

Given that it's Tee, I'm feeling like that was pretty intentional. Tee…the ending’s always bittersweet. It's never 100% one thing or another when it comes to Tee. He's always going to leave you somewhere that's just kind of like, “Yeah, there's good here, but also life is what it is.” I feel like I just generally probably have more tolerance for that when it comes to these kinds of stories. 

Like Ginny said, you know from the beginning that they're not gonna live out their whole lives together in 1928. The way the story is set up, it's just not possible that that's a thing that's gonna happen. So for me, thinking about the life that Yai lives after Jom leaves, it's not necessarily melancholy for me? He was definitely lonely and I wonder what that must have been like for him. It's more of a curiosity for me than a melancholy. 

I am a person who is very into loneliness and stories about loneliness. And so, leaving 1928 Yai alone in 1928, and having him have to deal with his loneliness for the rest of his life, that actually does not bother me. It doesn't make me feel sad necessarily, because I don't necessarily see loneliness as an inherently sad thing. I think loneliness is loneliness, and it can be sad, and it can be other things. 

The idea of Yai having had this great love and deciding that he doesn't want another one, basically because he's chosen at that point, “I don't want to do this again,” and devoting his life to other things from what we understand from what we get at the end of this story. Him having basically his memories of Jom for the rest of his life, but no other great love. This is something that my mind actually enjoys conceiving of and considering, but then I have some very different feelings about loneliness as somebody who spent a lot of time alone in romantic and non-romantic situations.

Ben

I would be probably less bothered about it if it was more like Brokeback Mountain. If the tragedy that separated them was mundane and contemporary, I would probably be less annoyed than this supernatural phenomenon, that we still have no real handle on, being the reason that they come together and are torn apart. That component of it is bothersome for me because I don't know why these things have to happen to Jom. 

It's fine to choose not to be bothered about it or not care about it, but I really hate speculative fiction stories where the supernatural component only matters in so much as it generates drama to get big moments, and doesn't feel like it's as much of a player in the story as the people there. I'm very frustrated with I Feel You Linger in the Air, because I don't know why Jom has to suffer like this. I can enjoy Jom and Yai's romance, but I don't know why this story wants Jom to suffer this way, and for the people Jom loves to suffer.

NiNi

Ginny, do you have a conception or a narrative in your head about the why, or does a conception of the why matter to you in the story? For Ben, it's incredibly important, and him not having a conception of the why is sort of a barrier between him and the story.

Ben

If you're gonna send my Black ass to the past to become a slave, there better be a goddamn fucking reason for it.

NiNi

[laughs] I hear you, I hear you.

Ginny

As far as the mechanic, I don't need that, and I don't want that, because the story was set up with this very kind of spooky vibe, which immediately put me in a place of like, bigger than human stuff happens in this story, and we're not gonna make that make sense. That's not the kind of story we're in. But the narrative that I do see is the reincarnations and the fact that this is a love happening over three versions of Yai that have loved Jom, and the Yai that we experience for almost all of this story is the second of those, so he has already some immediate instinctive connection to this strange man who's shown up, and he kind of just goes, “Oh, this person is important to me. I've already had dreams about him. I'm gonna see what this is about.” 

Why does he have to suffer like this? Because that's the story. I get what you're saying, but this is very baked into the genre and it's baked into the fundamental setup that this is gonna be a story about separation and about yearning across centuries. Those are the emotions that the story wants to deal with.

NiNi

It's fascinating for me because, as somebody who's been very steeped, as I said, in historical romance in the way that I've been steeped in historical romance and the type of historical romance that I've read across my life, you're right. It didn't even occur to me to question the why. This is the ticket for the ride. This is the price of admission. You just accept that this is the premise and you go from there. So, the idea of there being a conception of the why, it didn't even really come to my thinking on this show until Ben pointed it out. 

In a story like this, the mechanics of the time travel are by nature a McGuffin, because they're not actually important to the thematic underpinnings of the story. The thematic underpinnings of the story in this case come from the characters and who they are, and Jom being from the future is part of that. Jom being this person who has lived this life in this particular time and being thrown into another time. That's where the thematic underpinning comes from. Not because of the “Why is this happening to him?” and all that kind of stuff. Even though maybe some of that stuff may come out if they get to continue the story—maybe, maybe not—because I don't see that as being something that Tee would be particularly interested in. I don't necessarily see it as something that's, for me, critical to the telling of the story.

Ben

It's because they sent him to the future. I don't think I would have cared about it if Jom had just vanished, and then he had just woken up even further in the past, and been like, “Oh, fuck,” looks at the camera, and then they end. I would have been okay then. I would have been like, “Well, we still don't understand why Jom is hopping. Perhaps the reset in another time frame will help us see that.” 

By sending him back to the future, letting him eat crepes and hang out with Jeed, who was Ueangphueng in the past, it made me think, “Well, what the fuck was the point of all that?” You sent him to the past, he made some friends, they got the gang together and unmasked the villain, they had some great sex, they had some sad sex, and now he's back in the future. And Not!Yai walks in, confusing the absolute fuck out of us, and then they roll credits. And then they throw on a tag, because they might get a second season. 

A huge knock for the show for me was being fully-reliant on novel spoilers, which were posted by the distributor of the novel, as well as given by the cast to audiences. That's not great! A good ending makes me go back to the beginning and then I want to reflect on the whole journey. I got stuck in the ending of all of this going, “Well, what the fuck was the point of everything I just watched? Why did any of this have to happen?” I don't like getting stuck at the end. I don't know what they want to say about everything that's going on. The whole for me is not greater than the sum of its parts, and it has some really good parts. 

I think Nonkul and Bright do a great job playing the romance between Jom and Yai. I thought it was interesting to see a male gay couple and a female gay couple next to each other, and how that presents in this particular time frame. I really liked Ming and the other servants because most of them are honestly not that homophobic, which reflects a lot of historical context. Poor people did not care about what other poor people were doing. I liked the whole notion of a bunch of homos and their friends get together and they can take on fucking anybody! 

I think episode 11, where Jom realizes he's disappearing and tells Yai, and there's this somberness that grips the show as they have to grapple with Jom's functionally-terminal illness, and they go through the process of saying goodbye to the people who mattered to them reflects an AIDS experience that I am unfortunately familiar with. That was really well done. 

There's all of this great stuff all over this show that I don't feel like really spins together into something transcendent. I just have a show with a lot of pieces that I think are really spectacular. But I don't think the show itself is.

00:21:35 Depictions of Intimacy

NiNi 

Let's talk about some of those pieces. Ginny, let's talk about the intimacy—let's start there. Let's talk about the intimacy through the story, the intimacy within the relationships, and then the particular scenes that you and I have been trying to sink our teeth into. 

Ginny 

I think I said already that initially the romance between Jom and I did not grab me. I didn't feel like their courtship had a lot of juice to it, but once they reached that point of really being in each other's orbit and being close to each other, every scene was just giving so much intensity. Mutual desire, mutual interest. So much tenderness. The way that they look at each other and touch each other is beautiful—some of the best chemistry and intimacy we've seen in a long time, I think. 

Ben 

The oil scene in, what, episode 6? 

Ginny 

They've definitely not had sex yet, but the attraction is clear and understood on both sides. There's this scene where Yai is rubbing himself with oil as just, like, skin care, and Jom starts helping him. And then you cut, and you see Jom in his room looking so worked up, and then he starts to rub the oil on himself, and you see that what's happened is Jom and Yai had this moment where he's doing this massage and it was interrupted because Yai was like, “This is too much.” 

And so Jom is processing this, and very clearly implied is jerking off to this experience. And the music is so intense, and the framing is so intense, and you're intercutting between the scene with the two of them and the massage and Jom by himself. It's one of the most intensely sensual scenes that we've gotten ever, and it's done so artistically. They thought about “How are we going to frame this?” and “How do we want to tell the story of what just happened between these two men and how they both feel about it?” It's so creatively gorgeous and intense in a way that I don't see applied to intimacy scenes, and I just wanted to smooch everybody involved in it, because it was beautiful and wonderful, and I want to see more like that always. 

NiNi 

The way that this show filmed sex and intimacy. Ben always talks about being tasteful, but also being explicit enough for there to be an understanding that what is happening here is sex between men, and it is different from other kinds of sex. I was just kind of blown away by the creativity of it: the way that it was shot, the way that it was scored, the way that it is choreographed, the way that the emotion is built between the actors. 

Ginny’s right, I haven't seen anything like this. 

Ben 

The only other creator who consistently gets here when it comes to sex…probably MAME? Maybe? Like, it's kind of goofy when she does it. 

Ginny

MAME is different, and I am a bit of a MAME apologist, and I love her intimacy scenes, but there's something about the creative layers that are put on top of this that really speak to me. This show did so much without being very visually explicit; being so deeply sensual, without showing you very much at all. You're seeing skin and you're seeing touching, but that's not what's driving the emotion. It's the music and it's the filming choices that are making this experience so sensual, rather than just the sight of bodies and the way they're touching each other. And it was really striking. 

Ben 

The intimate moments themselves are not here for pure titillation. There is a strong dramatic component to each scene, which is helping the characters and the audience cope with the current struggle happening between the boys. The first scene with the oil, that was the first time that Yai was close to honest about his physical desire for Jom. 

Ginny 

They definitely both know at that point. I don't remember what specifically has been said, but it's been made clear between them that Yai is interested in Jom, because Jom goes into that scene kind of expecting, “Oh, is this going to lead to sex?” He thinks that's what's gonna happen, and maybe Yai did, too, but kind of got overwhelmed, or we're not sure exactly what happened that he stopped it. 

Ben 

I'm sure! Don't worry!

Ginny

[Ginny laughs]

Ben’s sure. What happened, Ben? 

Ben 

I'm just gonna get edited. [NiNi laughs] I'm glad you're here. That boy made a mess of his damn pants because he busted unexpectedly—[Ginny laughs]—and got embarrassed, and didn't know what to do, because he definitely spent too much time thinking about it because all he does is read trashy romance novels. 

[Ginny laughs]

NiNi 

I've forgotten about the romance novel that he made Jom read to him. 

Ben 

Which Jom hated!

[everyone laughs]

NiNi 

But you know what it is with the intimacy scenes? They somehow managed to be incredibly sensual, but not earthy?

Ben 

They got sensual without being as erotic as maybe they felt. I like when the actors get to give the audience what they want and need without you basically making the actors shoot porn. Bright and Nonkul are extremely professional. We don't always get too deep into the behind the scenes stuff, but we can see in the BTS we got that these two guys understood what they needed to accomplish in their scenes, which are very well choreographed ahead of time. And that's, I think, what really goes here is they're not just relying on actors being willing to just do shit. There's a specific intent that they're going for. So we get all of the effect we need, and it doesn't feel clumsy. 

NiNi 

Another thing I really loved about the intimacy in the show is how it builds from scene to scene. The other thing I like watching when I'm talking about sex in stories is tracking the emotional journey through the sexual journey. This show, I think, was really good at that, because every time we got an intimate scene between Jom and Yai, it was at a different stage of the relationship. The intimacy wanted to show us something different. It reveals something different about where the characters are, where their relationship is. When the dam finally breaks and Jom and Yai just start making out in the rain.

I talk about the show being a big damn romance. That moment is probably the most big damn romance moment in the entire show. It is epic. There's no other word to describe this moment. How it happens, how it’s shot, everything about it makes it even feel epic. There's this sense of inevitability. There's a sense of desperation. And then that carries through into the sex scene. 

You come out to that scene and you're going into other scenes where things are quieter once they become more established, you can chart the emotions that you're supposed to be feeling about both the characters and the relationship through these scenes. And there aren't that many of them. They do a great job of building the intimacy and you understanding that they have this incredibly intense physical relationship without spending a lot of time on intimate scenes. As much as I enjoy seeing those scenes and parsing those scenes through the lens of the story, the fact that they don't have that many of them to me is also an accomplishment because they're able to tell that story without necessarily making their actors take their clothes off and make out all the time. 

00:30:21 Head v. Heart 

NiNi 

The way that I feel about this show is so visceral. Ben talks a lot about rarely having heart shows, about being very analytical about the things that he watches. For me, this show…I'm not as deep into the analyzing of it as maybe Ben is. And Ginny, I don't know which side of that line that you land on. 

Ginny 

I'm probably somewhere in the middle. I try to sit wherever a show is gonna give me its best, so I'll love to analyze the show if it seems to really be inviting that. But this one, like you said, it's a big damn romance, and so much of what it's doing is just creating those moments. So I was enjoying sitting in those. 

That kissing in the rain scene that you talked about, that was incredible. What happens immediately before that is the dance that Yai has to do with this very eligible girl, and the fantasy dance that Yai and Jom have—which is just a gutting scene. I think I did cry. Everybody is surrounding them and admiring the way that they are doing in real life for Yai and this girl, and it's the agony of what they should be able to have and can't. 

This is a show that wants to dig into those pain points and I can see where for some of us who have lived that pain, it's not something that you want to sign on to. For others of us, it's like, “Yes, make me feel this thing. Take me through this in this fictional space.” We get that excruciating contrast of the publicly-affirmed love that Jom and Yai aren't allowed to have, and then we go from that right to this private, powerfully intimate moment between them. 

NiNi 

We talk a lot on this show about lenses and reads; who you are and where you sit being an integral part of how you look at the shows, how you take them in, what you get from them, and what you put back out. I think this is a show that for each of us, because we're coming at it from a different lens and with a different read, we had three kind of distinct almost experiences of it. 

I don't have a head response to this show, so Ben talking about the why of the time travel—I just wasn't thinking about it like that. My head wasn't in it to that extent in terms of analyzing. This was strictly my feels, and I had a lot of feels from the minute that Jom sat down behind the market and stress-ate that sausage. I had a lot of feels! [laughs]

Ben 

This is always going to be the struggle I have. I don't swoon. So while I do appreciate how good Bright and Nonkul are, particularly Nonkul—I had very positive responses to what he was doing. I don't ever get heart shows where I just sigh at them and like, that's it. 

The first 43 minutes of this final episode are fine. I think they accomplished that part really well. I don't have a lot of complaints about that chunk of the finale. If we end there, and then go straight to the tag, I'm probably fine with this show and having a different conversation. But Jom ending up back in the water, getting snatched by a scuba diver, and I'm like, “How the fuck did he get out there so fast?” If we're jumping right back to that moment, it's the middle of the fucking night.

[NiNi laughs]

I didn't have to care this much about the specifics until suddenly I was thrown off, and now I'm having to ask fucking questions. So Jom gets rescued and then we have all this shit in the present. And we don't spend a great deal of time there with Jom grappling with what the fuck happened to him. It's just: jumps back. “Oh, right! Jeed was Ueangphueng! We haven't talked about that in 11 episodes!” Okay, sure. Ohm is here? Why? Okay, right, right. In the actual world they're from, Ohm showed up, broke up with Jom, and within six hours he drove into the fucking river. I get it. Okay, right. That's what happened. Sure. Let's deal with that. Yeah, okay. I don't care. Go home. All right. Goodbye, Ohm. BYE!

Jom is sad because he misses Yai—valid—and then he finds the box. We have a really cool moment around the box. I really love the letter, but then there's Future!Yai and I'm like, “What the fuck is he?” [Ben sighs] I hate all of this shit at the end. It feels distracting. Why does he have to go back to the future to tie up shit from his present, to then suddenly be thrown back to the fucking past? 

NiNi 

If I am putting my head bits on, which I am very reluctant to do with this show to be quite honest with you, because I enjoyed it so much… The only thing that maybe doesn't entirely fit is the third version of Yai at the end. ‘Cause I can see why they bring Jom back to the future. There's all this stuff that happens there that for me emotionally resonates, both the stuff with Ohm and then him opening the chest and finding the letter, and getting to see his despair and his loneliness without Yai. And then a version of Yai turning up without explanation? Okay. Yeah. Okay, fine, doesn't bother me, but I was literally deep in my feelings at that point. 

I can understand also why at that moment happens and why it's not explained. Who wants to end their story on an exposition dump? Nobody. 

Ben 

You got the catharsis you needed at the 43 minute mark and you were able to just walk away with that. When they kept talking after that for another 45 minutes, it caused problems for me. When we talked about other shows we've had on this podcast, we can talk about how, like, there's a lot of good shit but for you, it didn’t hit you in the chest? 

This is where I sit with this show. It's good. I don't feel it. 

NiNi 

I got you. 

00:37:37 Beyond the Romance and Story Integration

Ben 

All right, now that we have covered the main stuff, and all of the oil scenes, and the sad sex, let's talk about the rest of the cast. According to book readers, much of the cast of characters around them was greatly expanded for this production. Since Tee and them clearly cared a lot about them, let's talk about them. 

Let's start with Ohm/Khamsaen, Fongkaew and…Preggers… [laughs] I don't remember what her name is. She got on my damn nerves. 

[Ginny laughs]

NiNi 

Did we ever get her name? 

Ben 

According to MDL, it's Khaimuk, but I don't remember it being said. 

Ginny 

Yeah, I'm not sure they ever said it, which says somethin’. 

NiNi 

Ginny said, “Whoop there it is.”

[NiNi and Ginny laugh] 

Ben 

I will say that I liked the bits with Khamsaen in the past where he doesn't actually know who Jom is. He's just pissed at Jom for having no sense of class solidarity at all, and gets in his face about this. He's like, “You're fuckin’ up my bag, bro.” And Jom, who is going through his shit, beats the fuck out of this man. But then they, like, reconcile later? I actually kind of liked this. 

Ginny 

Yeah, I mean, I was with Jom and so in favor of him beating up that man, even though that man did not know what he had done, really, to deserve this. I was just still so mad at present-day Ohm so I was very ready to have Jom take it out on the past version of him, who had done nothing basically except be a little whiny about a girl. 

Ben 

I like Khamsaen’s perspective because you've got the rich people and all their bullshit-ass games, and I like how Khamsaen is just kind of a pampered mama's boy who's losing his shit because something horrible happened to the girl he cared about, and now she's in this really shitty situation, and he's just floundering and feeling super powerless because he doesn't feel like there's much he can do about that at this point. 

Ginny 

What they set up with Robert and the way that he wields power over his whole household and his two wives and everybody who gives a shit about them really leaves everybody feeling powerless and just kind of scrabbling around the edges for what they can get. Those early episodes really set up how under the thumb of this powerful rich man most of the people in their orbit are. That's just a giant boulder in the stream that they all have to flow around and figure out how to live their lives around. 

Ben 

The way that eventually unravels was kind of interesting for me, because there's this little mystery in this show about, how does Robert even get involved with this family in the first place? Why are they so intent on Robert? ‘Cause he kind of sucks and he seems like he's also bad at his job, which is to manage the forestry shit. He would much rather spend his time whipping Ming's ass, and Mings mom’s ass, or abusing his wives, than doing his fucking job. There's this whole bit with Fongkaew where we learn that while they were trying to cover up other awful things, they brutally murder Fongkaew’s father and injured her mom permanently? And that's how Fongkaew ended up in this household in the first place. 

Ginny 

Yeah, and it seems like she kind of knows that, and just has to live with it and live with being at this man's side who did that to her family, until she teams up with the other wife for the grand comeuppance. 

Ben 

We eventually learned that Ueangphueng and Mei conspired to bring Fongkaew into the house in the hopes that she would distract Robert. And they own that that was really fucked up, and they apologized for it. 

Ginny 

The way that his power makes everybody underneath him turn on each other and use each other as shields, and recognizing that that's not okay to do, but also you understand why they did that in that position. 

Ben 

You get the sense because all these characters had to be built out for the show. They were concerned about how these characters were interrelated to each other. I like the Robert character even though I despise him because I feel like they considered his role really well in the 1920s part. 

NiNi 

One of the things that came up to me while the show was airing was how it's kind of important, given Thailand's position in this era, that Robert is French and James is English, Thailand is never colonized, but the French were to the east in Vietnam and the English to the West. It's pincered between colonial powers, but it was never colonized itself. It was kind of like a buffer zone. Some of that feeling does come through in the way that the era is portrayed. There's clearly a lot of influence that they're getting from these colonial powers without actually being colonized themselves, and that comes through particularly in the character of the dad. 

He feels like somebody who is important, not in the sense of “I am important because these powers say I am important, but I have a sense of importance in myself.” I don't know how to explain it to people who are not from places that were colonized, but it gave it verisimilitude for me anyway. 

Ginny 

Clearly, so much of what he wanted to do with this project was bring in some of those historical perspectives and the sociological and political stuff. And I thought he did a really good job overall of putting that in the story in a way that felt natural and felt like it fit. 

NiNi 

There is a fair amount of political inside the story, which is very Tee. I also feel like, in a way, he almost didn't go far enough in terms of the way he normally likes to operate, because Tee, when it comes to this stuff, he's very in your face, and it felt oddly restrained. 

Ben 

One of the things that I remember seeing from Tee while we were watching this was that when they were trying to do research about this period, they did not have a lot of great primary sources of what life was like for not-the-ruling class at the time and so they were building out the world kind of based upon anthropological presumptions about the era. The one bit of this ‘happened during the era’ stuff we get is the piece of news delivered at the breakfast table about two women who were living together. It ends completely in tragedy. One of them is killed and the other maybe doesn't survive the grief. I don't remember exactly what happened to the other one, and it feels significant for me that Tee wanted to make sure he put living lesbians in this world, too, by building out this relationship between Ueangphueng and Mei, and then giving them the opportunity to leave and go do their own thing. 

NiNi 

That brings me to an interesting question. Tee was trying to accomplish a number of different things, I think, with this story. How do you feel the romance fit inside of the wider story that Tee was trying to tell? 

Ben 

Honestly, poorly. 

Ginny 

They did not feel super well integrated. The grace that it got for me was a lot due to how well the side characters that ended up involved in a, more political stories—Robert’s whole household. All those side characters were so nicely developed early in the series and I was so invested in them that I gave the story a lot of space to develop its different themes alongside each other, rather than having a ton of overlap. But from a story crafting perspective, they were not super well integrated. I would agree with that. 

Ben 

The big problem was their choice to make Jom so passive for most of the show. Part of why the episode 10 stuff doesn't exactly land for me is it didn't feel like Jom was as… active of a character I would have expected, given his obeisance to this system had felt like something he was affecting for survival, and not just something he just sort of slid into because he had been hurt, and then assaulted, and then hurt again right before all of this. I feel like him teaming up with James and everybody else would have landed because it would have felt like he was a mover in that world, and that his modern perspective would have mattered more. 

NiNi 

I feel like this is a consistent critique of Tee. This is something we talked about when we talked about Step by Step as well. The things that he actually cares about versus the vehicle that he's using to tell his story. There is always a tension there. I feel when it comes to Tee, you kind of have to choose your adventure. You have to choose which side of the story, I guess, you're gonna pay attention to. And because I always gravitate towards the romance, I think I have a different-slash-better time with a lot of Tee’s stories than others might. 

Ben 

I don't like that he does that, sincerely. I don't like when BL feels like three pitches fighting for relevance because somebody with money who liked all the pitches wanted to see them play out together. I really don't like the side quest feeling of this constant theme in Tee's work. I don't like the things being loosely connected via setting or… underlying theme he thinks he's building towards? It consistently irritates me in his work. 

NiNi 

I feel like, Ginny, you and I are more closely aligned sometimes when it comes to some of this stuff that Tee is coming out of, partly because we get the swoonies and Ben does not. 

Ben 

Y'all give me shit about New Siwaj. Y’all gonna eat this shit over Tee Bundit. 

NiNi 

[laughs] Ginny, how do you feel about that? Do you feel that underlying tension in Tee’s work, and how do you reconcile it? 

Ginny 

As much as I love the romance and the swoonies, I would love someone to give Tee a bucket of money to make the sociopolitical drama that it feels like he desperately wants to make. What it feels to me like is he has to put things through this BL lens because there is money there as a creator and there's an audience there. There could have been a stronger, more cohesive drama, but I liked both halves of what we got and I didn't feel like they were actively in conflict, and I'm easily pleased. So I was okay with it. 

Ben 

I think he gets away with it here, but I don't think it's good, not as a unified piece.

00:49:15 Anticipating the Special (Or Not)

NiNi

So, there's gonna be a special! The special is not part of the timeline of the show, it's a non-canon kind of AU, not quite AU thing. Are you guys going to be watching this special?

Ginny

Probably. Yeah. 

NiNi

Ginny's like, who am I kidding? Yes, I'm watching it. [laughs]

Ginny

Yeah.

NiNi

Ben? 

Ben

I am genuinely uncertain. 

NiNi

I think I’m not going to watch it. I'm so emotionally immersed in this story? I don't think I'm interested in a time-out-of-time, non-canon AU. 

Ginny

Well, I'll tell you both how it is. 

NiNi

Please do. 

Ben

[laughs] I just don't know that I care! I like Nonkul and Bright well enough, so I'm not opposed to seeing them bro it out, I guess. 

NiNi

To me, the story between these two got so emotionally deep, I don't want to watch them have hijinks. 

[Ginny laughs]

Ben

It feels unearned. The story’s not complete. I would be okay with a “present Yai and Jom get to go to the fair and have a good time,” if this was coming after the second section with the Commander. 

Ginny

I do kind of agree with that. I will still watch it.

[Ben and NiNi laugh]

Ben

Even though I did not like this show as much as NiNi, I am not saying that this show is bad and people shouldn't watch it or enjoy it. But… I don't really want to return to this show. That's the real thing here. We got the tag about the Commander and I was like, “ehhh… do I want them to get a second season?” I kind of don't. I don't know that I want to go back to this. I don't think I care enough. 

NiNi

I am curious about two things. One, this is a period of Thai history that we haven't seen in BL. We're now getting into Thai history and BL, period, and as a person who is kind of a history junkie, I want to see what that looks like. Then the other part of it is, they can't go back to the same dynamic, right? So it's not gonna be a retread of the 1928 story. This has to be a different story because… Mustache Yai is a different character from 1928 Yai. And Jom, having been through the experience of meeting and falling in love with Yai and being separated from Yai, is also going to be a bit of a different character going into this? 

So this is not the exact two same people having the exact same story, if they do this. This is two different people figuring out a different dynamic, a different story. And I am actually interested to see that, because I am impressed with the acting. And because I have been impressed with the writing. So for me, that's where I'm landing. I want the second season because I want to see that. 

Ben

Well, I hope the Quantum Leap BL does a better job closing itself out next time. 

NiNi

[laughs] So mad at you for calling it Quantum Leap. What about you, Ginny, you gonna watch season 2? If there is a season 2?

Ginny

Oh, definitely. I don't think the story is complete as it is. I think they tied it up enough, and that's where—I needed us to see modern Yai, because that tells us if we never get a season 2, there is a Yai and a Jom that can live out their life in the same timeline, and I need that for my peace of mind. There's a happy ending out there sometime—and hopefully we'll get to see the story take them there. But I did want to at least know that it's there for them. 

But I don't think it's complete as it stands. So for that reason alone, I want the second season. I don't… know that I have a lot of faith in how good it will be? So I'm also nervous? But I'm also not afraid of bad television, so I do want there to be a second season, and I will watch it. 

00:54:08 Final Thoughts

NiNi 

Ginny, what did you score I Feel you Linger in the Air, and why? 

Ginny 

Why did I give it a 9? I agree with Ben that the whole is not greater than the sum of its parts. That's a really fair and accurate way to sum it up. The ending, I think, failed in execution? I don't disagree with any of the choices that it made about what happened, but I think it could have done better with the timing. I think a little bit more explanation would have been good. 

So there were some misses. But I liked so many of the parts so much, so I gave it a 9. 

NiNi 

And what about you? Where do you sit? 

Ben 

I gave this show a 9. My ranking system is almost always about whether or not a show can be recommended to viewers, and so it becomes a 9 because it's the kind of show that BL viewers can have a very good time with, and it's the kind of show that recent converts might have a good time with? But the failures in execution from episode 10 and 12 hamper this show getting a higher score from me. It's a 9 because the parts of the show that are good are some of the best we've seen this year, but the parts that are not are frustrating in ways that also feel fair, and I kind of hate that, too. 

They hedged on the finale because they hadn't gotten really greenlit for a second season. Okay, I understand the awkward place you were in. But modern Yai is probably the biggest mistake I think they made. I think they were afraid the audience would be like me and would be really put off by how unhappy that finale is, and so they threw modern Yai at us to make people feel better—but I didn't like it. 

But I think the show is really, really watchable. I think it's really beautiful. I think it's a great example of what Thai production teams are capable of. I think it's also a really good showcase of what Thai talent is capable of. I think across the board the entire cast is really solid, even with my issues with the lack of conviction at the end of this series, I think this was an excellent show. 

NiNi

I gave this show a 9.5. This show is incredibly expansive. There's so much that's happening in this story that I really found resonant. I feel like I felt all of the emotions that the show wanted me to feel. I followed that emotional throughline and it was an incredibly easy emotional throughline for me to follow. I didn't feel like I had to qualify my emotions when I was watching the show. If something on the screen was meant to be making me happy, it was making me happy. If something on the screen was meant to be making me feel sad it made me feel sad. There wasn't a tension between what I was feeling and what I felt like the show wanted me to feel. As a person who is very much into the fields and the vibes, it was a 9.75. 

I feel like in terms of shows that we scored really highly and say that we actively like this is probably the most critical we've been of something that we have scored highly? 

Ben 

There are times when a show is genuinely good but doesn't hit every note that well, and you're going to hear it and you're going to go, “Oof. We definitely downloaded this from Limewire.” And—

NiNi 

[laughs] Benjamin!

Ben 

And—Look, I can never hear a very specific song from Third Eye Blind correctly because the track I had was a fucked up clip [laughs] from Limewire for years that had two different skips in it. 

NiNi

Oh my God. You can’t say Limewire! The children don't know what that is. 

Ben 

I do not care about these fucking kids. [laughs] And so…

NiNi 

[laughs] Ginny, Ben said “Fuck them kids.” 

Ben 

So, the thing can be good and still be criticized. Criticism is not inherently negative. This show took multiple huge swings and missed some of them, and I think it's totally fine to acknowledge that the show did not hit every swing it took, even if we can applaud the swings that it went for. I think it's still good to take big swings even if you don't hit them. 

Ginny 

Yeah, I would rather watch a dozen shows that swing big and don't hit the mark than a dozen shows that are kind of boring and self-contained, and do fine at executing an easy thing. 

NiNi 

Okay, so the average of 9, 9, and 9.75 is some kind of messy number between 9 and 9.75 closer to the 9 side of things, because that's how maths works. I'm not going to try to actually calculate that number. It can get a 9 from The Conversation. 

Ben 

It's 9.25. 

NiNi 

9.2—look at, look at Ben!

Ginny 

Ben's like, “The math is simple actually, Madam.”

NiNi

So I Feel You Linger in the Air gets a 9.25 from The Conversation, and hopefully a commitment from Ginny that if they do come up with the second season, you're gonna be right back here on the pod talking with us about it. 

Ginny

Absolutely.

NiNi

There we go. That's gonna wrap us up on our Swoon episode, our I Feel You Linger in the Air episode. We out. Say “bye,” Ginny. 

Ginny

Bye! 

NiNi

Say “bye” to the people, Ben. 

Ben

Peace.

[bloodbuzz-ohio]

What set abuse allegations did Rachel Bilson brush off?

Here's a rough timeline... sorry I went maybe deeper into detail than you were expecting

Mischa to E! on May 14, 2021: "[...] sort of general bullying from some of the men on set that kind of felt really shitty. But, you know, I also loved the show and had to build up my own walls and ways of getting around dealing with that and the fame that was thrust specifically at me. Just dealing with like the amount of invasion I was having in my personal life, I just felt very unprotected, I guess is the best way to put it.”

Within I want to say a week or two, Rachel and Melinda are asked about Mischa's interview on their podcast (or Danny Pellegrino's, it really doesn't matter, it was uploaded as part of the show podcast for 106) and they both say they never saw bullying on set. And they both extend an invitation to MB to come on their pod to explain herself? It's maddening.

RB says, trying to be funny, "I mean come on, clearly she was having fun. I mean, this episode she’s just making out with Ben McKenzie. What could be so wrong? And listening to Rooney.”

And because we know now that Ben and Mischa dated during s1, that's extra salt in the wound. Rachel of all people was aware of their saga, even if it was 20 years ago. As if dating someone and listening to live music..... means there was no mistreatment?

So then the show's mysterious entities speak to Page Six on June 2, 2021, probably mad that Mischa's interview is now costing them money because the podcast purports the show experience to be sunshine and rainbows and that Mischa herself was the problem, not them.

Their set source (I repeat, this is a 20 year old show with a random set source talking to Page Six) says, “So now she wants to go say that she was bullied,” the source continued. “It wasn’t that she was bullied. People didn’t appreciate waiting for hours for her to show up.”

The source also added that Barton — who played Marissa Cooper until she exited the series in Season 3 — had a momager who was “annoying.”

“It was a mess,” the source sniffed.

And that's its own POS mess. They also try to throw MB's mother under the bus in the book by saying she...... advocated for her daughter? By working as her manager and being on set? Nuala is on my shit list for a 1000 reasons and none of them are because she was on set advocating for her child/client. They really thought they did something with this Page Six hit job.

But Mischa responded to it with this kickass statement, "There was a lot going on. Whether I was late or not doesn’t excuse certain behavior from individuals in powerful positions. Everyone experiences things differently and where I acknowledge some of my past behavior may not have been helpful in certain instances, I will tell my truth when I feel ready.”

Then on June 11, 2021, Mischa published this op-ed in Harper's Bazaar UK.

There's radio silence on the issue until Adam Brody appears on the podcast for 126 in November 2021 and the pod women tell him (poorly, I may add) about the E interview from May. He says he didn't see any bullying but that he rarely worked with MB. Says he feels good about his own behavior with her. He does say that set is not a protective environment and several other nice things about her that put him in my good books forever.

Then there's true radio silence until Mischa finally agrees to be on the podcast during a weekend fandom convention she attends with Melinda and Tate in August 2022. They film the pod ep in December 2022 and it's posted in January 2023. None of the bullying allegations are discussed.

The allegations are also never mentioned in the celebratory book that is published in November 2023.

MB is asked about on-set bullying on CHD in February this year and in her answer mentions backtalk with some people behind the scenes, and brings up friction with guest stars.

Since then, Mischa has posted photos on IG that Rachel has commented on and Mischa replied to one of them in kind so I'd say things between them are... decent.

[jackstockhypno]

Doing Hypnosis That Actually Works (Ep.2)

You want to become better at doing hypnosis? In the previous episode, I touched briefly on some things that prevent hypnosis from being effective and actually working on you. Some of it might not be you! It might be what you're hearing. But what makes hypnosis effective? Let's go into depth on that. Here I talk about making hypnosis files work effectively, but it will also help you sculpt your suggestions better so you can powerfully hypnotize someone during a live session. 

Transcript

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People come to me all the time and they say,

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wow,

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I thought that hypnosis just didn't work on me until I tried your files.

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It took a little bit of practice and tweaking to get there, but now it seems like I have unlocked

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my own formula and the formula for your effectiveness might turn out different but

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i invite you to use parts of my formula within yours remember we are all here

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together

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I want to see people creating good content that works.

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Because when I first saw hypnosis content on the internet, I was completely in awe of the possibilities.

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It was this magical world where anything could be created.

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The body, the mind, working together to create anything.

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You could change who you are, your shape, your identity.

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You could change your body, your thoughts, your habits and ideas.

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You could experience anything erotic or therapeutic.

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I found these huge libraries of audio files all over the internet.

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But that dream kind of came crashing down, because a lot of them just didn't work.

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And it makes one think, is there something wrong with me?

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In the previous episode,

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I talked all about making yourself more susceptible to hypnosis and making it work

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for you.

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Today I'm going to talk about how to make hypnosis content that works.

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This will help you to make original content or to edit someone else's content to your own desires.

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Of course,

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you shouldn't publish someone else's content as your own,

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but I know plenty of people chop up hypnosis content and put it together in their

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own way for their own usage.

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Now first you're going to need the right equipment,

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though in my beginning I recorded on a simple gaming headset.

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You know, one of those little microphones that sticks out from the headphones.

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And no one ever complained about the audio quality.

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I just made sure that my mouth was the correct distance,

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the volume levels were good,

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and the backgrounds were decent.

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And no one complained.

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So just remember that it doesn't have to be perfect.

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After all,

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famous YouTuber Casey Neistat once said that it's not about the camera that you

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have or the quality of it all.

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It's about the story that you tell and the way you communicate.

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The content is what matters, but it is nice to make sure that there is no background noise.

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You don't want noise coming from your computer, and you don't want echo or reverb on your microphone.

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Personally,

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I like to use a dynamic type microphone,

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which is commonly used by podcasters and such,

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because it cuts out a lot of that noise that is around the microphone,

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or distant from it,

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or off-axis from it.

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It also kind of gives you that warm broadcaster sound that you're hearing right now.

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Now these dynamic microphones do often pick up an electrical hiss,

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this constant hum that comes from the frequency of the electricity in the room,

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and you can take that out with a simple noise cancellation.

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I like to hook up my microphone to a small preamp because I do not speak very loudly,

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and this will bump up the volume of my speech.

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Then that connects to an audio interface, which translates it digitally via USB to a USB port on the PC.

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I use a PC case from a German manufacturer called BeQuiet.

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They always come with quiet fans and hard drive mounts that are soft,

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sound deadening and all that stuff.

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But realistically, any modern PC case is going to be much better than we had years ago.

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I find that two large fans work fine in the PC.

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One intake and one exhaust.

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120mm or 140mm, not a big deal.

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For the average PC, two case fans is fine.

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And with today's technology,

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you might not even need a hard drive,

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which can make all kinds of loud random noises.

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And then a nice tower cooler on your CPU goes a long way to keep fan speeds down.

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If you're recording with a laptop, it's probably no problem.

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Just close out any other programs so that your fans are not ramping up.

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But please use a dedicated microphone.

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Don't just record it through the microphone on your phone or mobile device or on your laptop.

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Plug in some kind of microphone and it's going to be way, way better.

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Now,

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the way you speak is going to be your own individual thing,

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so I can't really comment on that too much.

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Just make sure that you are clear and you're in a good position.

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You might want to stand up to have a more full,

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dynamic voice,

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or you might want to sit down to be really chill.

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Listen back to your recording and see what it sounds like.

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Of course, don't be too critical, as no one really likes the sound of their own voice on recording.

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You can use a pop filter,

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a little piece of material that goes over your microphone that prevents a popping

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sound when you make a P sound.

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That's the air blowing over the microphone.

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But I find a good solution is to just offset the microphone to the side a little

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bit so that you're not blowing on it every time you make that P sound.

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Get the appropriate distance so that you're not breathing on the mic too much.

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Be mindful that you're not bumping anything because that can make a loud sound and

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it's pretty annoying when you're listening to hypnosis.

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Even a tiny tap on your microphone can sound quite loud for the listener.

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Now let's say you're not using your microphone at all.

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Maybe you create the voice digitally through a text-to-speech program.

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In practice,

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this kind of thing usually doesn't sound very good,

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but there are a number of people that do it right,

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and it sounds really,

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really good.

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I can't tell you the techniques that they are using,

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but maybe you could listen around and try and find those creators that are using that,

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and see if they'll give you a few tips.

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I do know that using the traditional built-in Microsoft voices can be horrendous at

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worst and comical at best.

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But even then, some people use those voices and they tweak them a certain way and it sounds pretty good.

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Now,

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you are in luck if text-to-speech is something you use or you want to get into at

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the moment,

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because we have a lot of new AI models working on that right now.

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These machine learning models are working themselves out as we speak, getting better and better.

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They are so good that they can imitate the voices of famous people.

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Kind of frightening implications,

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but I'm sure there's plenty of made-up voices for you to use and experiment with.

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These voices are sounding quite good.

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you will have to play around with them and tweak them so that they get the right intonations and timing.

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You will have to work closely with it and edit the audio yourself and the timing

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with it so that it sounds more natural.

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I don't know how to use this stuff.

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I just know that I'm hearing it all over the web and it's getting better,

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so you have an opportunity there.

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Now, I can't explain everything that works, but let's talk about the basics of making hypnosis work.

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I'm talking in the audio content creation here because it is a bit different when you are in person.

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A lot of these techniques that you learn in person don't work in an audio file.

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They might involve checks or deepeners.

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Anything that involves interaction with the viewer is not possible when we are creating audio.

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Though some of it might apply when you're doing it live to someone over the internet.

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The funny thing is you see people with all of their certifications, all their training courses and such.

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Those things are great, but they may not provide you with the natural delivery that works best.

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or something that works best via audio file.

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Going by a script is fine and typically necessary at first, even for quite a while.

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But after learning a certain number of techniques, you often go beyond technique.

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You begin to kind of just do it.

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It can be a bit conversational, and people love to experience it in that way.

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It makes them feel that it's normal and natural,

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and there's no pressure on them to go into some state of trance.

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You kind of sneak your way in there, so to speak.

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So one of the best ways to go into this is to have no script,

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or I think even better,

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is a basic,

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simple script.

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Kind of a list or jot notes of what you want to talk about and create.

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Now this is a bit advanced.

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I do recommend in the beginning that you literally just write out what you're going

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to say or what you're going to make your program say or whatever.

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This naturalness comes after you get your voice and get some practice in understanding what works.

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Next is what I think might be the most important thing.

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And if there's one thing that I'd like you to take from this entire talk, it is this.

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Be all positive.

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Yes, every single thing that you say should be in a positive light.

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And that means literally using only positive words.

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For example, I will rarely ever say the word bad.

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I won't even go that far.

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I will often say not so good or not ideal.

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In those situations, I'm using a negative positive.

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I won't even say the words let go of the stress of the day.

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I will just say let go of everything.

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You may or may not be aware of the vibration of this.

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But take a moment to feel into that.

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Feel the difference of that.

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Let go of your stresses.

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For some, that might be okay.

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They might say, oh, that sounds like a good, nice thing.

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I've had a stressful day.

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And for others that are already in a relaxed, good mood, they're kind of like, what?

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I'm not stressed.

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In fact, you're kind of making me stressed by assuming that I am stressed for some reason.

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It is so, so common for people to say things like this.

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I've heard this from people doing live hypnosis, hypnotherapy,

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audios of every niche and topic.

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It is so common, and I cannot blame you for doing it, but it does need to change.

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Everything that you say needs to be in a positive light.

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Even if I'm doing some kind of dark or evil roleplay,

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I keep everything as positive and playful as possible so that no one experiences a

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bad trigger and we keep the vibe as high as possible.

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It is especially important to keep positivity when a subject is under hypnosis

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because they are susceptible and we want only positive suggestions to go into them.

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Remember, this is a rewiring a brain.

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And positivity is what makes everything work.

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Even in the workplace,

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most experiments show that positive comments will provide you with much more benefit,

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better results,

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and better output than negative feedback.

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This is simply the nature of things.

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Good things come from good things.

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After all, hypnosis is just a heightened state that connects to the law of attraction.

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Like attracts like.

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You don't have to be shouting glee from the rooftops.

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I'm certainly no manic pixie myself.

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I'm pretty monotone.

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That's just how I talk.

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But my choice of always keeping it positive makes for not just an easy listening experience,

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but something that works.

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Something that creates something positive in your life.

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I think that's pretty simple.

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Now on to the next thing.

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People have a little bit of an attention issue today.

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It's no surprise when you look around that our attention spans are dwindling.

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So let's work with that.

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In fact, it challenges us to be better by making our content less boring.

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That means capturing the listener or viewer's attention the moment that you start.

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Perhaps you noticed that I jumped right into this recording without a bunch of preamble,

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and that is pretty typical of my content.

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I'm kind of

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calling out a lot of people here when I say this,

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but I did not start this talk by saying,

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welcome to Jack's Hypnosis,

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where we help you with this and that,

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and we talk about all these kinds of things,

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and here's who I am,

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and here's what I do,

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and here's why you should listen to me,

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and oh,

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roll that 30 second intro,

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but not before I tell you about our sponsor,

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and blah blah blah blah blah,

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And then maybe give an explanation of what hypnosis is.

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And then the warnings, never listen while driving and taking medications, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And then some big, long, slow induction for 30 minutes.

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And I know some people don't mind that kind of thing.

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They like a long induction.

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They don't mind a nice intro,

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but I know that half the people out there are figuratively punching the air right now,

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like,

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yes,

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stop that shit.

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Get on with it.

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Just start it.

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The people want their content.

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So make your content start with the very first sentence.

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It's almost a pretend intro when you do it this way.

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And the listener does not realize that it's starting already and that they're

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having thoughts of it in the first sentence.

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You're getting it started.

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You're going to start off with something where the subject doesn't need to be in trance for it to work.

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For example, if I was going to help you become a better public speaker,

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I would start off my first sentence by saying,

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Wouldn't it be nice to be clear,

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confident,

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and precise whenever you speak to people?

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Even if it's more than one person at a time.

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Even if it's many people at once.

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Just that first sentence primes them for confidence and capability.

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And let's just say that person still needs a whole lot more confidence points to

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get up to that level of being the perfect public speaker.

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Well, I just boosted them up one or two points, and they're already on their way.

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They've got their first stepping stones to dive in.

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Now they're already confident enough to go further.

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And they didn't have to wait for it.

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They didn't have to endure anything to get to that point.

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It's like, bang, delivered right to them the second they pressed the button.

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What a VIP experience.

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Then you can blend the induction into the content of what the listener wants or your intentions.

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You could say something like, relaxation grants a sense of confidence.

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And that's a little hypnotic hint to go deeper.

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You're just nudging them down a little bit.

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And you do that for a little while,

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and then maybe after five or ten minutes,

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you might mention how they feel a bit heavier than before.

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Oh hey, maybe you notice that you're feeling heavier and more relaxed than you were a few minutes ago.

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That's perfectly natural and normal.

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There are a lot of people listening that are already feeling that.

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For some, it's this whoa, huge effect, and for others, it's a little hint, a little nudge.

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And that's all you're doing, just nudging and nudging.

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And then you could say something that implies that they are feeling heavy,

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or maybe their eyes are feeling heavy.

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Hey, did you notice that your eyes feel a bit heavy?

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And then you could say, allow your mind to take you down deeper.

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It's important to always keep going deeper.

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But you don't just say, go deeper.

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Because the subject kind of thinks, what does that mean?

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How do I do that?

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They get confused and then they're like, oh, I must not be very good at going deeper.

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No, go deeper is a strange command in itself.

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So let's break down the example that I gave you.

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Allow your mind to take you deeper.

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There's a few layers to that.

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the first command is allow and that in itself is enough to take you deeper because

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that state of going deeper is the state of allowing and even just that you could

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expand on that word allow you could say let yourself drop when you drop let go into

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the ease

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Let what happens happen.

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That's what allowing is.

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Let's break down the next part.

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Your mind.

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First is the word you.

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And that grabs the listener's attention.

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It's the cocktail effect.

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It's like hearing your name.

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This is directed at you.

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So you end up paying attention right away.

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Then there's the phrase, your mind, which is often subconsciously interpreted as your mind.

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The subject might even consciously mistake it for that,

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especially if you're doing this in an erotic context.

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and then the instruction to go deeper but now the listener has a method they have

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the how they know that they have to allow their mind and it will take them there so

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the instruction is no longer to go deeper

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It's to do what they need to do to go deeper.

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Oh, now it makes sense.

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Now you've got your viewer.

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Now they're going into that highly susceptible place.

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Now their brainwaves are slowing down.

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Now they're beginning to feel that bliss of trance creeping in.

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And it feels like they didn't have to try.

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And I like to avoid using numbers of deeper,

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like people will say 10 times deeper,

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50 times deeper,

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because that doesn't make any sense to the listener's mind.

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It's just like, what does that mean?

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What does that feel like?

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How do I do that?

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And you start thinking like, isn't that a lot?

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How is that even possible?

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Most of us have a pretty analytical mind, and that's just not going to work for them.

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Basically, don't put pressure on the subject.

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Don't make them perform unless that's something that they want to do.

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Don't make them try so hard.

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Do as much as you can yourself to create that experience for them.

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And then even when the subject is deep in a trance,

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give them suggestions that would probably still work even out of trance.

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Because then you're making them really comfortable.

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You're making them feel like they don't need to be in this strange magical state of

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mind to make this work.

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Let's go back to the public speaking example.

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Even when we think that the subject is in a deep trance right now,

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we are not going to jump straight into the suggestion of,

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you are a perfect public speaker.

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It's not a bad suggestion.

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I just like to think, what if they're not in the most deep receptive state right now?

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But I still want it to work.

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I'd like to say something that would work even without trance.

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Imagine you are cool, calm, and prepared for your talk.

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Imagine what you feel like when you know that your presentation does not need to be perfect.

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Imagine the relief of knowing that the fact that you did it is fantastic in itself.

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And when asked a question that you may not know the answer to,

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you are cool and confident,

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knowing that you don't know because you have not looked into that particular topic

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or you have looked into it and could not find sufficient answers.

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Isn't it nice to feel the relief of being human?

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Now look at those string of suggestions that I just used.

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Those would all work outside of trance.

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And that's why we need to get ourselves out of the idea of induction and then

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suggestions that work because the subject is in trance.

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Yes,

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this state of deeper brainwave activity,

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this thing that we call a hypnotic trance,

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yes,

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it enhances the suggestions.

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But it's best to make suggestions that work regardless of whether or not the subject is in trance.

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This is what it means to make it natural, and this is when it works best.

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Hypnosis is an enhancement.

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It doesn't give you any ability to make magical commands.

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Look at how we create things as humans.

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We visualize it first.

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We visualize the ingredients of our salad before we make it.

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We visualize our body to create it.

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We imagine it,

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we feel it,

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we hear it,

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use the senses,

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we line up the emotions with it,

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and we think of it in as much precision as possible.

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That's how all things are created, intentionally.

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Your imagination is a preview of the future.

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Just by thinking of something, you are drawn to it and it is actually drawn to you.

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In ways that we understand and in some ways that we honestly don't.

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Some odd,

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unbelievable things happen when we combine our imagination with our emotions and

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our intentions.

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And sometimes the manifestation just seems to magically appear.

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We don't know how.

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Sometimes we try to explain it.

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Sometimes we consciously make actions towards it, as we should.

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And sometimes we're thinking about it, and it just sort of pops into your existence.

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It just sort of happens.

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And as humans, we don't really have the perception to understand 100% how.

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All we know is that we get people to conceptualize things first and then they happen.

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We don't just say it's going to happen.

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We conceptualize what it's like.

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We create it in some part of our imagination.

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And we do some kind of action to move us into a physical space closer to it.

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And that's what you're encouraging.

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That's the next part.

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That is an instruction of something physical.

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We have mentally created what we want.

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We have visualized it, heard it, felt it, seen it.

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We have emotionalized it with as much precision as possible.

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And now there's this drive and motivation and magnetism towards it.

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And the best way to get the ball rolling towards that direction is to do something physical.

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If you're looking to improve someone's physical fitness,

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one of the instructions might be,

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make sure that you walk every day.

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Or,

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the next time you take a drink of water,

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stare into the water for a few moments,

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imagining that that water contains exactly what you need to accomplish your goal.

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And as you drink that water, you feel it become a part of you.

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The physical instruction could be anything related to the topic you're talking about.

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Overall, here's what makes the hypnosis usually work.

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A calm state of focus.

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An imagination scenario that makes you feel something as much as possible.

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And then physically doing something.

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This is the simple 1-2-3 combo.

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You have combined three concepts that work excellently together, and you have done them in that order.

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Because first you relax and focus, then you feel it, and then you begin doing something about it.

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Then we finish it off by just saying, hey, you can do it.

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You don't have to try to make it work.

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You got what it takes.

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Go ahead and do it.

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Say it in your own words.

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How would you tell a friend that they can do it?

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Now, once you're done your recording, you can do noise reduction and editing.

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You can put in some background audio.

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Find whatever fits the vibe that you're going for.

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You could use binaurals or brainwave entrainment.

(00:33:30):

You could use certain soft music.

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You may have to search around for royalty-free stuff.

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You may have to pay for the royalties to use it if you're going to publish it.

(00:33:46):

And it's not necessary to add a background track, but it can add so much depth to it.

(00:33:55):

So I hope that this has helped or at least entertained you.

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And I'm sure you have learned plenty.

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You don't have to implement all of these things.

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And when you do, you can do it in your own way.

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If you can just be all positive with what you create, you are going to change the world.

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Honestly, that's all it takes.

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That is the biggest thing.

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Do your own thing.

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Keep it positive.

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Get out there and make some crazy stuff.

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I'm Jackson Stock.

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You can find me on YouTube,

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or you can go to my website,

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transformhypnosis.com,

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to listen to all kinds of self-improvement and transformation audios.

[sunnydaleherald]

The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Wednesday, November 22

GILES: I was a librarian for years. This is exactly the same, except people pay for the things they don't return. It'll give me focus. Increase my resources. And it'll prevent you lot from trampling all over my flat at all hours. There may even be some space for you to train in the back. BUFFY: Boy, you've really thought this through. How bored were you last year? GILES: I watched "Passions" with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

~~BtVS 5x02 “Real Me”~~

[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

Invasion Of Privacy (Buffy, Ted, Joyce, Angel, PG) by badly_knitted

make me hazy (Giles/Jenny, M) by CallMeVampy

Fledgeling Take Flight (Jenny Calendar, Phantom xover, T) by arcanedreamer

Not a Dark Prince (Angel, Spike, G) by Stand with Ward and Queen

[French language] Vampire hollywoodienne (Buffy/Faith, T) by Friday Queen

[Chaptered Fiction]

Breathe Again, Chapter 12/17 (Angel/Cordelia, M) by Califi62

New Blood, Chapter 7 (Xander, Naruto crossover, T) by danu40k

With Arms Wide Open, Chapters 13-14 (Buffy/Giles, E) by jaybird023

Days of Future Past, Chapter 31/34 (Buffy/OC, Angel/OC, Buffy/Angel, M) by a2zmom

New York, Chapter 19 (Giles/Xander, M) by drsquidlove

"The Sky's Gonna Open", Chapter 6 (Lindsey/OC, T) by lindseymcdonaldseyelashes

A Call From Beyond, Chapter 3/7 (Ensemble, G) by CoffeeMilkLuvr

I'm Only Your Darkness, Chapter 11 (Buffy/Faith, E) by Karnstein99

Moments that Make You: The Hero and The Princess, Chapter 93 (Cordelia/Doyle, T) by myheadsgonenumb

Between The Shadow & The Soul, Chapter 3 (Angel/OC, T) by dreamingshores

Spiderwebs, Chapter 43 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Willow25

The Transfer, Chapter 3 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Blackmysteria

Fates Intertwined: A Second Chance, Chapter 7 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Spikelover4ever

The Vision Quest, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by acb6293

Encased by Sunshine, Chapter 29 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by acb6293

Buffy’s Spooky Birthday, Chapter 6 (Buffy/Spike, R) by VeroNyxK84

What the Drabble?, Chapter 44 (Buffy/Spike, R) by VeroNyxK84

Encased in Sunshine, Chapter 30 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Acb6293

Twice Broken, Thrice Burnt, Chapter 19 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by ClowniestLivEver

[Images, Audio & Video]

Artwork: Here’s a fun old one of the Master!! (drawing, worksafe) by foul-sorcery

Tattoo: [Tattoo design with BtVS quote from "The Gift"] (worksafe) by tattoos4mnd via tattoos4mnd

Gifset: PASSION is the source of our finest moments. It hurts sometimes more than we can bear (Wesley/Lilah, slightly NSFW) by gothamstreetcat

Video: D&D | Podcast | Q&A | Buffy the Vampire Slayer by It's A Mimic!

[Reviews & Recaps]

*SHOULD I BE LAUGHING!?* Buffy the Vampire Slayer S5 Ep 11 "Triangle" Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING by Nick Reacts

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 6X12 REACTION | First Time Watching by EvilQK

EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER - Buffy the Vampire Slayer Reaction - 3X8 - "Lovers Walk" ( Buffy Reaction ) by Java Java Reactions

Zombies and Reunions! | Buffy The Vampire Slayer 3x2 'Dead Man's Party' | Blind Reaction by Vic

Season 3 Begins! // Buffy the Vampire Slayer Episode 3x01 Reaction // Buffy is My Hero! by Brooke Whipple

PODCAST: Buffy Season 8: Part 3 by Buffy the Gilmore Slayer: A Buffy and Gilmore Girls Podcast

[Recs]

spuffy fic rec, pt.2 recced by louisandjade

[Fandom Discussions]

buffy season four will give you whiplash any time they cut from one romantic subplot to another by idkaguyorsomething

With all my Bangel VS Cangel talk recently it probably does come across like I hate Bangel. This isn’t true by girl4music

And I don’t hate Angel. Not anymore. I never really did actually by girl4music

Do any of yall think about how in Something Blue, Buffy tells Riley shes getting married to a guy named Spike and plays it off as ‘a joke.’ by spikes-left-eyebrow

Rewatching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and today’s new issue with the show is how Buffy is the “chosen” one who has no say in the matter by jenny-from-the-box

Would you like a SMG celebrity memoir? by Taake

The Nature of Willow's "Dark Magic" in Season Six by American Aurora, multiple posters

What Would a Buffy the Vampire Slayer Revival Look Like? - A MLC Retrospective by MyLoveableCrayon

Yet another “Dead Man’s Party” thread: how would you have fixed it? by squidwardsaclarinet

Am I the only one that wishes they kept the more “case of the week” noir style of season 1 and 2 by SignificantBerry3837

Wrong answers only: What did Spike whisper in April the Robot's ear that she threw him out a window? by jdpm1991

Watching Buffy again- changed my opinion on Riley by EyCeeDedPpl

Xander as a character has not aged well or society has just evolved by Jockwarrior

Tired of the fandom? by Upbeat_Tone_2710

Would a high caliber bullet to the heart kill a vamp? by TheEbolaArrow

Everyone talks about the best and the worst… by duvet-cover

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[coralsgrimes]

Remember when I said that our boy's career is oh so very close to stinky corpse like no one gonna invest in that except the funeral home lobbyists maybe???

Do ye also remember when Benny was doing the podcast recordings earlier this year alongside someone who said that was their first job?

So put them two together and what comes out is Benny as a ghost of Christmas in Christmas carol podcast from a Christian spreading love for Jesus Hope Media Group.... The funeral home lobbyists are laughing as they dodged thy bullet

Here a lil list of Benny's recent-ish (about 3/4years) career milestones:

1. Cringe ya book adaptation that should be on CW, currently in cancellation limbo probably will be announced as axed after strikes are resolved so netflix can say that they don't have shadow daddy's blood on their hands, it was them selfish peeps fighting for fair work compensation

2. One episode of anthology series last halloween, that was so bad everyone forgot about it by now

3. Self funded vanity music project that he released through vanity label (he paid for it to be released like is what I mean, no one invested in that steamin pile) and that no one even bothered to review except that one guy who called it turtleneck music? beige Michael Bublé rip off??

4. Low low tier partnership with Boss Fur Deutschland. still not sure if boss knows they are in partnership. Might be Benny is paying them too for that... privilege of badly fitted Zalando sale selection

5. Black mirror two seconds cameo that I would dispute it's legitimacy as an actual acting credit

6. Series of awful T-Mobile's ads

7. Couple of self funded live gigs so he could attempt to sing his four original song REALLY badly, and then went on to assassinate popular songs cuz it's too much to call them pained sounds singing. But boy he probably still getting stiff thinking of these 315 sweaty girls following him through the country of Europe

8. A film that is bad, critics agree, and is called The Critic which is very funny. No idea when this masterpiece will be released. About boys performance, critics either skipped mentioning him or he was called the weak link.... In other words I desperately need to see this one xd research purposes

9. Christian radio podcast version of Dickens Christmas carol

10. Apparently he finished that full album of his finally, if someone wanna buy the limited edition hand signed EP tho, it's still available in his child labour merch shop! And it's been two years xd

11. Oh!! And I almost forgot to add his lil tiktok dip cuz he an influencer now me thinks xd funny story here too. So he actually multitasking. So Benny does a remember me imma Sirius Black!!! Lemme go viral!!! Fans pleazzzz love me back and HBO please hire me I talked about it during a con recently too please it's them strikes so I gotta be sneaky and I wanna be super popular too

[sideburns-and-cigarettes]

NEW EPISODE: Part 1, Ep. 11 - "When the Seventh Bridge Falls"

In this episode, Drew, Emma, Chris, and Natalie discuss episode 11 of Part 1, "When the Seventh Bridge Falls".

Lupin and Jigen come face to face with a villain who goes a bridge too far! Our poor thieves can't enjoy some time off in a nice little town without a mad bomber using Lupin's name without detonating bridges at random. Or is he? Can Lupin and Jigen thwart the bomber's scheme before the seventh bridge goes kaboom? Will they be able to rescue the MacGuff--er, Leisa in time?

Join us as we talk gun cocking (with teeth), asshole Lupin/sweet Lupin, the fingernail stick, Tony Oliver THE GOAT, Miyazaki/Takahata's influence, the Old Salty look, and much more!

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Hope you enjoy this episode, Lupintic folks!

[trashquisitor-shirozora]

4AM thoughts while I decide if I should sleep on this chapter and then post, or post the chapter and then sleep (better sleep on it first and then do a final read before post):

was a reason ever given for the NR's bizarre attempt at Operation Paperclip? becuase I was watching this short podcast ep talking about sarin nerve gas and the host brought up the Cold War being the rationale for Operation Paperclip, and I didn't see any episode reactions speculating on whether or not there was a threat that necessitated rehabbing ex-Imps. I saw reactions talking about how the NR rehabbed Imps while also destroying their tech? huh? so the NR was doing Operation Paperclip out of the goodness of their hearts? I mean, I guess??? personally, I would've thrown them all into a floating prison because fuck 'em but I'm not the one who destroyed the NR in the Sequel Trilogy in a shitty attempt to recreate the conditions that set up ANH, what the fuck do I know?

HEAR ME OUT. my brain connected some dots. it's just me and my personal experiences with the Captain America movies, which were what really got me going in the MCU for a while but listen

I keep thinking about the speculations about what will happen in Season 3 and all the fics and arts and headcanons people spun for 2 years, and what is actually happening on Season 3, and it feels so much like what people were writing and drawing and headcanoning post-CATWS and what actually fucking happened (AoU, CACW, the Infinity Saga). I'm not just talking about the shipping, btw. I am very much talking about Din's journey throughout the first 2 seasons and the gravity of the end of Season 2..... and how it turned into a fucking joke. It was such a fucking letdown. I feel like a fucking clown for thinking Favloni (and Favreau especially) would actually do something meaningful with it.

I refuse to watch CACW out of principle and the Infinity Saga also out of principle. Wiki the summaries? Haven't done that. Everything I know I got from gifs and posts. I know straight up fuck all about the plots of these movies, but I know enough about how Steve Rogers' story ends and boy was that a disappointment. I get why his story ended, but how it ended sounds like a fucking spice dream. Of all the things, that's the ending they chose? lol k

to all the people claiming that 3rd episode was Mando's "Andor episode", no it fucking wasn't. it sounds like a fart of an attempt at a political/world-building episode with none of Andor's dedication to understanding what the fuck they're doing. maybe they had no choice but to set up the NR as corrupt, useless, incompetent, unable to outlast the Empire! maybe it's meant to mimic the more recent post-WWII/Cold War histories (I won't speculate here because I'm not well-versed in this department), but this coming on the heels of Andor... what the hell kind of sunrise was the Rebellion fightting for? are we really saying the Rebellion was fighting for a filler republic that Disney will burn away to make a better, cooler government run by..... who the fuck knows? nobody wants to do the hard job of building and rebuilding after a war. might as well just wait another 40 years for another Empire wannabe to blow up an entire star system and reboot the conflict for the next generation I guess????

no this season isn't going the way I expected because i wanted more out of Din. but honestly, it was the attempt to bring back IG-11 that turned me off the whole thing. fucking disgusting. let things die, favloni. they deserve to rest.

[lunarnightt]

Can you please provide the exact line she said? Because I’m hearing accusations but not seeing receipts // rachel said in her second to last pod cast ep that hayden was never around and she never got help with anything, her own words: timestamp - 7:57 and it's with the guests Erin and Sara Foster

*... it's all hard, it's all hard, i mean and i struggle all the time and i'm a single mom and so..." then her cohost interjects too enthusiastically "and doesn't have help!" before rachel continued, "

*... like yeah,

mhmm.. i don't have help..." then her cohost again

"she's never had help..." then rachel talks about how only her mom has helped her and how she never leaves her house but only sometimes and how she's sharing her mom with her brother now because her brother has a kid... and how she does her podcast while briar is at school, the guest she had on had to remind her about the time in which rachel said that briar stayed in "after school" at like 5-6 pm in the afternoon and then she doxxed her neighbor's kid's name

but her exact words in regards to hayden - time stamp 10:59: "... it's it's so true, i mean... and i will say when briar's dad is here then you know she's with him too, so..." then she complains about not being able to do anything herself and the sorts but she was mad hesitating even talking about it as if she had to make it up on the spot

then in timestamp: 55:26 to 55:58 she says exactly: “she [her cohost] has what i always thought i’d have, which is like the husband and the kids and the family and you know what i mean and it looks completely different for me, i never… (she pauses and says very hesitantly and you can find the video on youtube and see her face too) m-married, m-m-my baby daddy, like you know 11 years but not married, don’t have like the thing… and so it’s always kind of like…” then her cohost cuts her off and talks about how her and rachel guide each other through life and the sorts

but rachel was MASSIVELY hesitant just in directing hayden on the second bit.

hopefully link works: https://youtu.be/yl-HvMbHmyo?si=doSjibkRklQqwT3P

Okay then yeah, someone needs to give Rachel a reality check I fear because that man adores his daughter and she’s just dragging his name through the mud and for what? Because she can’t go out and enjoy the party life style she had before? Like girl please, you choose to get pregnant. He didn’t have to knock you up

[heswrongshesright]

Andrew Gives Expert Army Opinion on the Secret Service Blunders, and Meme Mania! - HWSR Ep 58

Welcome back to He's Wrong She's Right where the chaos never ends! In episode 58 'Andrew Gives Expert Army Opinion on the Secret Service Blunders, and Meme Mania!', Andrew and Nona laugh off an intro recording fail, dive into a sniper incident involving Trump and the Secret Service, and speculate about international conspiracies. From wild social media reactions, hilarious memes, to serious expert opinions on the shooting – we've got it all. Plus, our usual banter, tech updates, and a 'guaranteed to screw up' tangent express. Don't miss out on our quirky takes and subscribe for more fun!

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00:00 Introduction and Technical Glitch 01:27 Trademark Talk and Legalities 02:49 Family Time and Social Media Delays 03:18 Shooting Incident and Initial Reactions 04:45 Expert Opinions and Analysis 06:06 Sniper Logistics and Secret Service 13:32 Speculations and Conspiracy Theories 17:53 Grindr and Social Media Anecdotes 20:44 Privacy Concerns with Dating Apps 22:31 Secret Service Mishaps 23:50 Memes and Media Critique 26:39 Eminem's Sobriety and Public Perception 33:11 Podcast Equipment Upgrade 35:17 1,000 Subscriber Giveaway 36:05 Speculations and Conspiracies 38:39 Closing Remarks and Future Plans

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[womanfredvonkarma]

top five wolf359 moments <3 or episodes if that leaves too many to pick from !

Ohh, so indecisive. I went with episodes for ease of choice, and I also cheated my ass off, sorry.

Eps. 55–61 — If I gave each of these a specific number, I'd just spend the whole post talking about Pryce and Cutter, so I felt it best to collapse them into one. Everything from their scary hypercompetence to how they challenge the podcast's established themes to their odd camaraderie and sense of humour drives me crazy <3

Special Episode 'Volte Face' — I want to put Rachel and Cutter's power games here under a microscope. And of course it ends with her working for him and that meaning she won.

Ep. 41 'Memoria' — Some of my favourite thematic throughlines in the show appear here. Plus, our first meeting with Pryce <3

Ep. 11 'Am I Alone Now?' — Hilbert's alone speech will always be famous. To me. And it's also our first real insight into Hera's actual character!

Ep. 45 'Desperate Measures' — Actual chills.

[smokingoutthecloset]

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[celtfather]

Isn't it Grand to be Walking Undead #268

What happens when a traditional Irish song is rewritten about zombies? And I have CDs!!!! If you didn’t say, “You have Cds…”, you’ll find out why it’s important. It’s kind of funny.

This is Sci Fi Pub Songs & Stories #268.

0:16 - “Isn’t It Grand Boys” from Happy Songs of Death

4:09 - WELCOME TO SCI FI PUB SONGS & STORIES

This is the audio edition of my newsletter. I am Marc Gunn. I’m a rhythm and folk Celtic musician living in Atlanta, Georgia. I play traditional Irish and Scottish drinking songs. I’m also a songwriter. I write songs inspired by Celtic culture as well as pop culture, things like Lord of the Rings, Firefly, Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who and more.

If you’re new to the show, please subscribe. You can do that PubSong.com/free or even better or you can subscribe and download all of my songs in this show. Just send me an email.  pubsong@ celtfather

You will get an auto responder with a link to download this month’s songs. You will also get that subscribe link. It’s quick and easy.

While you’re emailing me to get your free EP, let me know what you’re doing while listening to this episode.

We kicked off the show…

5:04 - WHAT’S NEW STORY

I really should talk more about the stuff I sell in my store. But it feels uncomfortable to do so. That’s one of the reasons if you go to any of my live shows, and I say, “I have Cds”. Audience members will shout “you have Cdddsss?!”

It’s a little gimmick I use to draw attention to my merch. And it’s really catchy.

I was listening to the last episode of the podcast about writing drinking songs. While I talked about my song “The Cat Came Back… the Cat’s Perspective,”. It’s from my C-D… And then I paused, just like I do at live shows.

When I listened to the episode, I responded, “You have CDs…”

It got me thinking. Could we do that same thing through a podcast?

I don’t know. But we’re gonna try. We’re gonna make this podcast into a sort of an interactive drinking game.

Each time I mention CDs, your job is to audibly respond, “you have CDs…”

6:25 - UPCOMING SHOWS

APR 1-9: Sherwood Forest Faire, Paige, TX

APR 6: Dragon Con Filk Music Concert with Brobdingnagian Bards @ 7 PM CST

APR 20: Cat Drinking Songs on Bandcamp @ 7 PM EAST

APR 21-23: Jordan Con, Atlanta, GA

APR 29. The Lost Druid Earth Day Biking Concert, Avondale Estates, Ga @ 6:30-9:30 PM

JUN 3-10: Celtic Invasion Vacations, County Mayo, Ireland

9:24 - The Celtic Kitchen Party “Covid-19 Shanty” from Last Call

11:11 - COMMENTS

I don’t get a ton of feedback for this show. But if you send an email to pubsong@celtfather with a short comment about the show… or just mentioning CDs that you love, that’s a great way for us to interact and have more of a conversation.

In fact, if you need a starter, I’d love it if you would grab your phone. Go to your voice recorder app. Say, “You have Cds”. Then email it to me.

Marisa Halvorson emailed: "Hello Marc! I have been listening to your songs practically nonstop this St. Paddy's season (I'm in NOLA and work on Magazine street so season it is) I had to work on the day the Irish Channel parade rolled and definitely enjoyed it more with your songs keeping me company while locked in my building by parade goers. Thank you for always keeping me company and my spirits up with your music."

Kennedy Johnson emailed: "Happy St Patricks Day to you Marc.  I hope you and your family are well on this day of Green & Orange 🇮🇪   I love your podcasts!!  I have today’s show cued up and ready to play.  Always a tradition foe me to list to your music podcast on this day!!"

13:50 - JOIN THE CLUB

As always, this show is brought to you by my Gunn Runners on Patreon. If you enjoy this podcast or my music, please join the Club. You get something new every week. It might be a podcast, a song, sheet music, a blog, or a photo. And of course you will get videos, including my weekly Coffee with The Celtfather video concert series. Sign up for as little as $5 per month and save 15% with an annual membership. Thanks to my newest Gunn Runners on Patreon: Alice M, Karla A, Triskele, Ayden B

14:34 - Marc Gunn “The Maid Went to the Mill” from Kilted For Her Pleasure

16:49 - THE STORY ISN’T IT GRAND, BOYS, TO BE WALKING UNDEAD

What happens when a traditional Irish song is rewritten about zombies?

One of the cool things about drinking songs is when the audience gets involved to make the song their own.  I don’t know if that is the origins of the “dead, dead, dead” line in “Isn’t It Grand, Boys”. But it seems likely.

It also seems like a great inspiration for a geek to turn it into a song about zombies. My friend Cathy Dailey did that and wrote “Isn’t It Grand, Boys, to Be Walking Undead.” It features all sorts of undead tropes like BRAINS, crushed flowers, and hunting undead, which totally takes my brain to Buffy, The Vampire Slayer.

The “Brains” line is my favorite because it replaces the “dead, dead, dead” with “brains, brains, brains” in the most-zombie-like style.

The chorus is also fun because it includes the “Wilhelm Scream”. That’s the term used for that death yell I make at the end of “Just time for one bloody last cry”.

Oh! Check this out from Wikipedia:

“The sound is named after Private Wilhelm, a character in The Charge at Feather River, a 1953 Western in which the character gets shot in the thigh with an arrow. This was its first use following its inclusion in the Warner Bros. stock sound library, although The Charge at Feather River is the third film to use the effect. The scream is believed to be voiced by actor Sheb Wooley.”

Sheb Wooley is best known for his song “Purple People Eater”.

But the trope of all tropes that makes the song for me is “Up come the hands of another undead”. It’s creepy, very visual, and just perfect.

The song features Nathan Deese on guitar, whistle, bass and “Brains” comments.

20:34 - Marc Gunn “Isn’t It Grand, Boys, To Be Walking Undead” from Sci Fi Drinking Songs

23:47 - CREDITS

Thanks for listening to Sci Fi Pub Songs & Stories. The show is brought to you by my Gunn Runners on Patreon. Every week, you’ll get a new podcast or song or video or video concert. You’ll also save 25% off all the merch in my store. The show was edited by Mitchell Petersen with graphics by Miranda Nelson Designs.

You can subscribe and listen to the show wherever you find podcasts. Sign up to my mailing list to read the show notes for this episode and find out where I’m performing.

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Have fun and sing along at www.pubsong.com!

#pubstories #theceltickitchenparty #walkingundead

Check out this episode!

[good-realtor-bad-realtor-dynamic]

I can fill in some more of these blanks and add in additional context for some of the others that were looking a bit sparse.

(I've used black, purple and orange to colour text in decreasing order of certainty. Green is for ones that were already explained but I'm adding more context.)

Glenn Howerton Burnout no. 1 was actually way back in season 6 and then the big one we all know about was in season 11 which is why they wrote him out at the end of season 12, and he had a much better time filming season 12 because he knew he was done.

**Wrexhamgate refers to how Glenn still hasn't watched WTW, Rob hasn't watched past ep 10 of AP Bio and Glenn hasn't watched past ep 7 or 8 of Mythic Quest.

**Not sure what Irelandgate is? The fact that they didn't actually film season 15 in Ireland because of covid, maybe?

Rob NFTgate extended edition includes him starting an Adimverse company to encourage some kind of virtual crowdsourced writers room but it was really just another NFT crypto scheme. And worse, it came out after general public opinion on NFTs had started to sour.

Glenn Poppersgate is about him announcing in the live shows that he's done poppers and going off on them as soon as the topic came out. And ofc poppers are gay af. Apparently some of that content as well as other drunk Glenn gems were cut out of the podcast episode. He's never beating the allegations.

Glenn Spotify are his three public playlists, Moody Mood 1, Moody Mood 2 and Rocky Rock, released back in 2018 or so.

Glowerton antivaxgate is based on a few tweets he posted advocating for parent's choice in vaccinating schoolkids in 2014-2015 in the aftermath of having watched a scare-propaganda antivax "documentary". Unclear whether his opinions have changed, but he seems to not be antivax on covid based on the podcast and s15?

*Rob Rosell Fruitgate... do you mean Scott Marder fruitgate about how he'd never eaten blueberries, pears and other fruits and that made it into Hits the Road when Mac buys Charlie a pear? Meanwhile he was an expert on smelling salts.

Rami Malek Hate Train could've also been about Jared Leto according to the two options r/iasip deduced back in the day based on the criteria (from Dennis and Dee Get a New Dad)

Glenn Homewrecker Redditgate is a story from an old reddit post, possibly from one of his AMAs, where someone posted a long story about how he'd shown his longtime girlfriend Sunny and she then messaged Glenn on MySpace and cheated on him with Glenn way back in the day, and now he could never go back to being a Sunny fan because he couldn't watch it anymore. Not sure if this was a true story though because the username made it seem like a copypasta.

Fred Savage who directed much of Sunny S3-5 was accused of assault, harassment and other misconduct at shows he worked on both in the '90s and around 2015.

**Sunny intern replying to Anna and Rob liking Nat's tweet both sound like sunnytwt events. There were screenshots of some thirst posts getting interaction with the official Sunny account going around sunnybr last month, so probably that?

*Rob Gay Podcast might be the episode he did on Dax Shepard's pod where he talks about enjoying the male form and wishing he could feel about it in a gay way

*That 80s Show Cancellation... not sure what this is specifically about, but without it we wouldn't have Sunny. Glenn and Charlie's first real significant meeting was after auditioning for this show, the actress who plays Carmen met Glenn on this show, and the money from this show helped pay for the cameras they shot the Sunny home movies with.

Stephen Collins who played Bruce Mathis aka Mr Save the Children turned out to be a creep who sexually abused minors, and his career ended when he admitted it in 2014

*Glowerton Wikifeet might from the Paddy's Pub ep of the pod where he reads a creep comment on having seen all the guys' ankles. Rob suggests they do an episode without shoes. Glenn mentions that he has very long toes, with his middle toe being as long as his pinky finger. In the aftermath, people tracked down screenshots of Dennis on the show and the home movie showing off his toes.

Baby Bird! Kaitlin fed Glenn jerky or smtg similar mouth-to-mouth like a momma bird. Glenn posted two pictures of them doing this on insta or twt before deleting them quickly. Too late. Tumblr has them forever.

Jordan Reid Firing was partly due her and Rob breaking up in a bad way, but also involves some stuff about the top-level executives at FX seeing the young woman as more replaceable than the guys. She was also betrayed by her agents and managers who never fought for her to get a producer credit and left her as soon as she got fired after they shot the FX pilot.

AI Gate 2023 were last month's posts of "Glenn" on a podcast (that the real Glenn actually went on once) saying Dennis loved Mac back except this clip was ai generated.

Rob Dick Pic Gate come out of the 2016 Sunny gang at LA pride photos going around here earlier this year, when someone spotted Rob adjust his massive hog through his trousers in a video from that event. It led to many "hog watch" posts where ppl would post screenshots of any outline you could see of Rob's hog in and off the show.

Glob Showergate came out of a podcast run by some horror film actresses talking about their experiences at a party when two of them ended up in a shower with Rob and Glenn and how it was weirdly normal. The story was about how she later went out once with Glenn when he took he to see Saw and was way more awkward then than he was in the shower.

*The number of asterisks indicates the degree of uncertainty.

If anyone can help us figure out Glowerton Femalegate, Private Schoolgate and Glenn Howerton Dead Prophecy, that would be much depreciated. More clarification on the Sunnytwt events would help too because I don't know who Anna and Nat are.

Also, does anyone have the homewrecker glennjamin reddit post and the Kaitlenn momma/baby bird post?

idk if anyone’s done this before but sunny lore iceberg🙏🙏

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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Sunday, September 3

Whistler: Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready for the big moments. No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it does.

~~Becoming, Part 1~~

[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

My Blood is Boiling (Spike/Riley, E) by madeingold

Rare Snow (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by veronyxk84

Fun-sucker (Xander, Spike, T) by Akuni

put me back in it (heaven isn't fit) (Crossover with Lucifer, M) by SummerFrost

Sharp and Glorious Thorn (Buffy/Faith, T) by grimorie

Different (Spike, G) by thatsadunstablegay

A Game of Getting Caught (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by EllieRose101

Dana's Journey to Being a Slayer (Dana, NR) by Illyrian

Making The Zombie Laugh (Buffy/Spike, PG) by Desicat

Rose Gold (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by ClowniestLivEver

[Chaptered Fiction]

"The Sky's Gonna Open", Chapter 2 (Lindsey/OC, T) by lindseymcdonaldseyelashes

All Things End, Chapter 1 (Crossover with Supernatural, T) by dwinchester

Not Alone, Chapter 4 (Crossover with The Walking Dead, T) by Storm_Arke

Meeting People, Chapter 2 (Willow/Xander/Tara, E) by CambrianBeckett

Secrets That We Keep, Chapter 1 (Ensemble, M) by NegaCorgi

Drabble Night: Buffyverse, Chapter 16 (Ensemble, K) by Dottie Snark

What It Means To Be a Famliy, Chapter 1 (Spike, T) by Celeste Belle

I am Anne..., Chapter 7 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Blackmysteria

Dawn the Vampire Slayer, Chapter 20 (Buffy/Spike, R) by LJ94

More Found Family Ties, Chapter 16 (Buffy/Spike, G) by Julikobold

Chosen One 2: Welcome to the Hellmouth, Chapter 3 (Buffy/Spike, R) by all_choseny

The Witch's Gift, Chapter 23 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by RavenLove12

Keepsakes, Chapter 58 (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by violettathepiratequeen

Cinder-Buffy, Chapter 16 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by holetoledo

The Nips!, Chapter 11 (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by Desicat

Better Off Alone, Chapter 10 (Crossover with The Walking Dead, FR15) by Arke

Mommy...?, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Grief Counseling

Into Darkness, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Blackmysteria

Haunted, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by scratchmeout

Postcards and Snapshots, Chapter 30 (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by TheSunnySlayer

Blood and Black Lace, Chapter 6 (Buffy/Spike, R) by SlayrGrl

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[Reviews & Recaps]

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"Phases" Buffy Reaction! S2E15 by RiskPig

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Buffy vs Dracula Analysis Video by Becoming Buffy Podcast

Checkpoint-Slayer Sunday by Jane Talks Buffy

Malcom + Willow = Forever💘 - Buffy s1e8 Reaction & Commentary by The Buff Summer

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[Fandom Discussions]

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[Spuffy v Bangel] by girl4music

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['Willow should've killed more people' ask] by aingeal98 and pzyii

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The Buffy 2019 remake need a second chance by multiple authors

Buffy fighting Ted and Joyce not noticing how good and strong she is by multiple authors

Were there any Buffy scenes that were improvised? by multiple authors

The way everyone behaves in season 6 makes no sense by multiple authors

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