#🏳️‍🌈📜🖊 anon

[fernlessbastard]

Quackbur but Sally is there supporting them cuz she's also lesbian.

Stan Sally The Salmon.

–🏳️‍🌈📜🖊

Ok but consider: both Sally and Wilbur are bi, and their current relationships don't invalidate that fact. Additionally, they're no longer together, so there's no reason for Sally not to be supportive of her ex's newfound happiness

Like, I get what you mean, and I'd be lying if I said a pretty fish lady that's also wlw isn't a great idea, but wlw and mlm both include bi people, and it's ok for them to find love with both the same, and opposite sex, as well as with non-binary people - be it in a mono, or poly relationship.

That just kind of goes into the bi erasure territory, and even though I'm sure you meant well, I want all bi, pan, omni, and in general multisexual people to feel safe and valid on my blog

Again, this isn't an attack on you, anon. That's a notion I've seen a lot in this community. The idea of c!Wilbur being with a man doesn't invalidate his previous relationship with a woman (or fish, I guess), and yet so many people feel the need to bring that down to somehow elevate quackbur as "the only one good outcome". People change, they fall out of love, things happen - that doesn't mean the relationship wasn't truthfully loving, at least at first.

Strictly homosexual Wilbur/Sally are both valid headcanons, but when the bisexual representation is already dismissed all around so badly, and done so poorly, with characters often "not liking labels", I just think we ought to not take it away, when we see a possibility of it

Anyway, stay safe there, everyone *hug*

[placetofangirl]

Imagine if Quackbur left before any drama happened/affected them(Election, Wilbur's Death, Doomsday, Hog Hunt, etc.)

Them getting married in a village then chose to travel the outskirts of the SMP so they'd avoid the drama.

And then someone (Phil, Tommy, Sapnap, or someone close to their negative lores/side, maybe even Dream) finding them then Cue the drama they avoid.

–🏳️‍🌈📜🖊 Anon. (If you have an anon list can I join?)

Oh gosh. This sounds so peaceful but unlikely.. remember l'manberg already existed when Q was added to dsmp, and Will refused to let americans in plus he and Quackity already had history from minecraft mondays hence their rivalry...

And even if say Quackity joined during that sweet spot in time when l'manberg was still just a drug van, I'd think he would like to join rather than convince Will to leave. Maybe he'd distract Sapnap and Tubbo from Will doing drugs, maybe he'd play cop and arrest Wilbur himself. Idk

The moment L'manberg passed the declaration of independence to Dream, he handed them back a declaration of war... This means that, there's no point in time 'before drama' that doesn't require Wilbur. Him leaving before the drama means no drama would have happened lol

If you're talking about right after the war, that's pretty much when Quackity joined Canonly and as I said...

Hmm, if Wilbur didn't reject him then, maybe? But Wilbur struggled for this nation, and he was the leader... Not to mention, leaving Tommy Fundy and Tubbo behind after they lost a canon life for his cause (two in Tommy's case) so how could he leave

I think your idea would take them being very ooc or like, a heavy au where it was someone else who started L'manberg?

As for an anon list, I don't really have one but I'll tag you by a nickname or your signature?

[babyboibucky]

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Okay alright I commend your time and effort, anon

[fernlessbastard]

Pride Lore Maker or 🏳️‍🌈📜🖊 anon here! And no I am not offended by your comment. Actually I'm really more curious! I really don't mind listening to others' opinion and I guess I'm sorry for pushing that agenda. I just got fed up of people making Sally a villain in most Quackbur Fics I read so I just said that. Anyways have a great day!

[Ps. Can I be an official anon =DD??]

(here's the ask in question)

Oh, I do get what you mean

Yeah, no, that's a problem in general when it comes to ships. There's this notion, that every previous relationship needs to have been awful to somehow validate the ship

And frankly, it pisses me off

That's just not how the world works. People change, feelings change, circumstances change - there can be a loving and supportive relationship, where the passion just kind of dies down.

And yet, it seems the relationship needs to still be invalidated in some way. Sometimes - like you said - it's through villainising the previous partner, making them toxic, sometimes even abusive. That's very much the case with how a lot of quackbur shippers seem to treat karlnapity (look, their relationship was very unhealthy, but criticise it for its actual flaws - lack of communication, most importantly. Karl and Sapnap weren't actively dicks to Quackity, and they definitely weren't even close to Schlatt!).

But what really irks me about headcanons regarding characters that have dated opposite sex in the past, is that there's a common practice of making either one, or sometimes both characters turn out strictly gay. I can absolutely see how that can seem like the better alternative, but it's still the same issue, just differently packaged. Making both Wilbur and Sally strictly homosexual also works to invalidate their past relationship, even if it doesn't portray Sally in the bad light.

But the thing is, they can both still be bi!

Multisexual people get very frequently erased, seen as "half gay, half straight", even in queer spaces. Hence, it is important to portray different multisexual people in media. Unfortunately, whenever a character like that appears, they're frequently very poorly portrayed. There's an abundance of characters that "don't like labels", or villains, who are overtly sexual, slutty, ect, and will sleep with anyone.

I hope you now understand why the headcanon that erases possible representation sat so wrong with me

Anyway, sorry for a late answer lmao, and also yes! I forgot to initially tag you as 🏳️‍🌈📜🖊️ anon, my bad! But i fixed it, and shall use it hence forth

Anyway, have a great day, mate :)) hope I explained it properly, but feel free to ask for any clarifications

[fernlessbastard]

My cousin hates Quackbur and said you were shit so I used the holy pan to physically and sass to mentally destroy him. Are you proud of me =DDD???

—🏳️‍🌈📜🖊

I--

I make people commit violence i suppose--

No but really, you probably shouldn't beat people up (don't use my fic as a reference)

I'm proud of you, but not for that, stay safe mate

[fernlessbastard]

–🏳️‍🌈📜🖊 anon here. I've come to deliver an another Quackbur AU due to am argument about my friends debating on what skin color suits Quackity and I just responded Quackity with vitiligo bc Vitiligo Supremacy.

So yeah—

Quackbur but Quackity has Vitiligo and he isn't afraid to flip it off.

Ok so I do like the vitiligo hc/au BUT I really dislike (understandably so, I would say) the idea of "debating someone's skin colour".

(disclaimer: I'm not a person of colour, nor do I have vilitigo, so if despite my best intentions there's some errors or discrepancies, please feel free to correct me without hesitation)

I mean, for the love of God, this isn't some lipstick shade, this isn't about what "suits" him. Dsmp characters are vaguely based on their creators, especially in matter of appearance, and the simple fact is that cc!Quackity is a person of colour. Yes, he might be relatively light skinned, but that doesn't change anything. And forgetting that fact is simply erasing the already sparse group of dsmp content creators and characters of colour. You can make your c! Quackity a duck or something but if you're making him a human, keep in mind that his skin is based off of him.

I understand you probably meant talking about if people should hone in on him being a poc more, making his skin colour in fanart bit darker than it is irl, but the way you worded it, as well as the idea of such thing as skin colour being up for debate is simply not sitting with me right in the slightest.

Then comes the issue of treating vitiligo as a "half point" between being dark skinned and light skinned - it's simply not. It is a condition in which there are patches of cells on your body which do not produce the same pigment levels as the rest of your skin.

In regards to fanart, here's a couple posts that talk about the issue that I believe are helpful (if you find any more good posts/threads on the issue, send me the links, and I'll gladly add them)

Post by cottaboo

Post by dtvibez

Thread on twitter by gogonalog

Unrelated to Quackity himself, but touching on the prevalent issues regarding art featuring poc:

Post on Twitter by AAAAAAndPeggy2

Post on Twitter by MOLENAIDE

Thread on Twitter by JAEHWANBLOOD

[fernlessbastard]

–🏳️‍🌈📜🖊 anon here. Your opinion about Vitiligo and my friends' debate are very accurate and they say sorry to those they might have offended due to their [playful] argument. I also to would like to extend an apology since i was the one who made it public.

Oh god I'm really glad you're handling it like that, and not deflecting! That's the mature and proper thing to do /gen :)

It's ok to grow and learn, I'm just glad I could show you a different perspective on the matter

I'll be honest, I'm absolutely certain there's many more people who would instinctively say the same thing, not thinking much about it, so I'm glad you're open to hearing people out, since that's how actual progress gets made after all :)

I'm sure you ultimately meant well