#✷Interactions✷[Buffy & Marie]✷

[wickedanddeadly]

@paranormaljunction asked:

"Buffy, I hate to drag you into this, and I promise I'm not angry at you... but... Sam missed our son's award ceremony because he refused to go anywhere near the McDonald's that opened up near the school because the classic mascot, Ronald McDonald, was there in person. I would've screamed at Dean personally, but he's nowhere near here! If he only would've dropped Sam off anywhere but at that creepy Plucky... Penny... um... Pennywise something... whatever... when he was a child, Sam wouldn't have been traumatized to begin with!" (Marie)

Buffy's lips instantly moved into a straight line. She wasn't sure exactly what Marie wanted her to say about the matter. That happened a long time ago. They both were just kids back then. She couldn't help but feel a pang of sympathy for those involved, knowing that he had missed his own son's graduation, how both Marie and Luke must feel, and even Dean feeling guilt over the issue.

Sam's phobia may have seemed trivial or even silly to some, but it held immense power over him. It was a reminder that fears and anxieties can be deeply ingrained within us, affecting our choices and actions. Buffy knew she couldn't judge Sam for missing such an important milestone in his son's life. After all, everyone had their own battles to fight, whether visible or hidden beneath the surface. Nor could she blame Dean for something that happened long before her time with him.

" Listen, I don't think Dean would have taken Sam there if he knew that was going to be the outcome. Sure they like to pick on each other like most siblings do but he would never want to traumatize his own brother, not like that anyway. " Buffy began. " I mean the only way Sam is going to get over his fear is to face it head-on. Maybe you could help him by starting off small. Perhaps a movie or something with a clown here or there. " She paused for a second before taking a seat. " I'm sure Sam feels awful, but I'm also sure he'll find a way to make it up to both you and Luke. "

[readsaboutreid]

Could I please request a sunshine! Reader who's a friend of Penelopes, and she goes to drop off some baking for Pen when she asks Spencer for directions to her office, he's a stuttering mess and the reader offers him a cookie as thanks for his directions. And she tells Pen about the cute guy and so she ropes Morgan into setting them up?

YES YOU CAN this sounds adorable and i love it pure fluff and baked goods coming right up! i hope you like it this is my first request and i'm kinda nervous

pairing: Spencer x sunshine!reader

contains: pure fluff, adorable flustered Spencer, another blink and you'll miss it Buffy reference

Lavender Roses | S.R.

Spencer sat at his desk, the stack of folders on it feeling as though each time he completed one another one is added. He takes a deep breath and leans back, taking his glasses off his face to massage the bridge of his nose. Most of the time he was glad to have a slow casework day but for some reason today was crawling by.

He placed his glasses back on his face and turned to resume to his work before he heard a soft voice. "Excuse me?" He swiveled in his chair and found that in front of him stood possibly prettiest person he's ever seen before carrying a couple of small plastic tubs. She was smiling slightly at him, her eyes sparkling even in the harsh fluorescent lighting of the bullpen. She wore a long-sleeved black dress with a white collar and a flared skirt and a pair of black Mary Janes. "Hello?" She asked again.

His eyes widened slightly and he remembered that she had been about to ask him something so he cleared his throat. "Oh, hi! Uh, m-may I have you? Uh, help. M-may I help you?" Spencer shook his head and nearly slapped his palm to his forehead but managed to refrain from doing so. His cheeks burned as he met her gaze again and was met with a smile so sweet that it would have made his knees buckle had he been standing.

"Yes, actually!" She responded, her smile growing wider. "I'm looking for Penelope Garcia's office? I need to drop these off for her." She held up the boxes, which upon further inspection held an assortment of cupcakes, brownies, and cookies in the very top one.

"Oh, oh yeah ! It's just, uh—it's r-right over—just turn around and—," he stammered, his cheeks burning more and more with each failed attempt to organize his racing thoughts so that they'd come out of his mouth fluently instead of in the word jumbles he was currently producing.

"Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but you said you're looking for Penelope Garcia?" Derek Morgan swooped in, rescuing Spencer from further embarrassment. "Her office is right this way, I can take you to her." He flashed her one of his smooth smiles and placed a hand on her arm as he began to turn her in the right direction.

"Oh, thank you!" She said gratefully. Before Derek could lead her away she turned back to Spencer and opened the top container, lowering it in front of him. "Here, have a cookie as a thanks for helping me!"

"B-but I didn't even—," he began before being shushed by her in a joking manner, her index finger landing a mere centimeter in front of his lips.

"Uh-uh! I will hear none of that nonsense," she laughed, making his heart skip a beat or two. "You were kind to me so take a cookie."

"O-okay, if, uh, if you insist," he gave a nervous laugh of his own as he reached his hand in and grabbed the first cookie his fingers met. He quickly withdrew his hand and met her eyes once more. "Th-thank you!"

"You're welcome, handsome!" She chirped before letting Derek lead her to Garcia's office, leaving Spencer silently kicking himself for fumbling that interaction so thoroughly. He took a bite of the cookie and was met with the most amazing tasting treat he'd ever had as he went back to working on the pile of folders on his desk.

"Thank you for showing me to Penelope!" (Y/N) thanked the kind man, who had introduced himself as Derek Morgan. She had heard endless stories about him from Penelope so it was nice to put a face to the name. "What, no cookie for me?" He joked, right as Penelope opened the door.

"She better not give you one! These are for my party tonight!" She said immediately.

"Oh, it's fine, Pen, I made like 30 of these things, not to mention the brownies and cupcakes. Plus, I already gave one to your other coworker so it's only fair, I suppose," she opened the top container, allowing the man to pick a cookie.

"Thanks gorgeous," he winked and walked off, taking a bite of the cookie. "Mmm these are delicious!"

They walked into Penelope's office and she closed the door behind them as (Y/N) set the containers down on one of the few surfaces not littered with papers and/or computer equipment. Once her hands were free she hugged her friend and they began catching up. Eventually, (Y/N) couldn't help but ask about the young brunet agent with whom she had shared her first encounter.

"So Pen, who was that tall, handsome agent I met earlier?" She asked, feeling her cheeks burn as she blushed lightly.

"Oh, sweet cheeks, stay away from him! He's mine," Penelope joked back, nudging her friend lightly with her elbow.

"Oh no, not him. He was nice but before he led me to your office, I had asked another agent where to find you. He was younger, wearing glasses, closer to my age, and he had what looked like the softest brown hair and he got all cute and flustered," she gushed to her friend, not taking a single breath until she had finished and took in a large gulp of air.

"Wait wait wait, are you talking about Reid?" Penelope laughed, her hands flying up to her mouth. "Skinny guy, about 6'1", dresses like he shops with my grandpa?"

"Hey, I like the way he was dressed!" (Y/N) responded with a playfully indignant tone. "He looked very cute if you ask me. Truth be told that's why I offered him a cookie!"

As her friend was leaving, a plan started forming in Penelope Garcia's mind. Once (Y/N) was through the glass doors and in the elevator, she rushed over to Derek Morgan, sitting at his desk and working on a case file.

"Derek! Derek, I need to talk to you," she panted, slightly out of breath from her hurrying. "Come to my office with me." The two went to her office where she shut the door and hurriedly asked, "tell me about what you saw between (Y/N) and Reid!"

"Is that your friend from earlier, baby girl?" He asked, tilting his head to the side with an amused smile creeping on his lips.

"Yes and she spent about 20 minutes gushing over him, Derek," Penelope laughed. "She is smitten and their interaction couldn't have been all that long. So, tell me, you beautiful man, what. Did. You. See?"

"Okay, okay!" He put his hands in the air and gave a good natured chuckle. "She walked up to him and got his attention, he fumbled asking her if he could help her with something, she asked how to find you, and he tried to tell her but it sounded like he was about to have a stroke so I stepped in and offered to show her to you. She offered him a cookie as a thanks for his effort and then we went to your office."

"Nothing else?" She pressed, trying to get every last bit of information that she could.

"Uh, she called him handsome, I think?" He added, trying to sneak a second cookie but being met with a slap on the wrist from Penelope.

"Okay so I have a plan," she said, her voice lowering to a conspiratorial whisper as she leaned in closer to Derek. "But I'm going to need your help."

Spencer sat in the café Derek had told him to go to, a single lavender rose in front of him. He had been told to look for a girl wearing a light purple beret, but no such girl had arrived in the 15 minutes he'd been waiting. He checked his watch while his heart beat rapidly against his chest. Why had he agreed to a blind date in the first place? Logically he knew Derek wasn't like the kids he went to school with growing up, he would never intentionally hurt his friends like that, but a part of Spencer's mind was telling him that this was all some elaborate prank that all his coworkers would be laughing about on Monday.

In the midst of his thought spiral he failed to notice that someone had approached his table until he heard a soft throat clearing from in front of him. He started and looked up, his cheeks turning a soft shade of red as he met the twinkling eyes that have been plaguing his thoughts for the passed week.

"Dr. Reid?" She asked with a hopeful look on her face. "I don't think we were every properly introduced the other day. I'm (Y/N) (Y/L/N). May I join you?"

"Oh! Uh, um, s-sure! Please do," he stuttered, realizing that she was wearing a lavender colored beret that from the looks of it was handmade with a lot of care. "I, uh, I'm Spencer." He smiled at her as she sat across from him in the empty chair.

"It's nice to officially meet you, Spencer," she responded with a soft giggle that made Spencer feel like he was about to melt.

"I, uh, I brought you this," he told her as he reached for the rose in front of him, reaching his hand out over the table to hand it to her. Her cheeks tinged an adorable shade of pink as she reached for it.

"I don't know if I've ever seen a rose this shade before," she whispered, twirling it around in her fingers as her eyes widened in awe.

"Different colored roses carry different meanings," He began explaining his thought process behind the particular color he had picked for her. "Lavender colored roses usually represent enchantment, admiration, and carry an air of mystery or mysticism, so I figured it would be a perfect color for the first time meeting you." He felt his cheeks burn as he finished his explanation.

"That's incredibly sweet of you, Spencer," she smiled at him softly, reaching forward to put her hand on top of his. At this point he swore his heart was going to explode. "And even though we've technically met before it also has the added benefit of matching my hat quite well."

"Yes, yes it does," he smiled back as a warm feeling bloomed and spread throughout his chest.

"So what do the other colors of roses signify?" She asked, tilting her head and listening eagerly with the very same smile that had made him tumble head over heels for her during their first encounter as he began explaining each and every color of rose and their multitude of meanings. Not once did she roll her eyes or sigh from boredom. As the night drew on and the conversation flowed Spencer knew that a lavender rose was indeed a perfect choice since what they really symbolized was love at first sight.

[inmyhorrorsera]

Thoughts on the Yellowjackets finale:

The good:

The entire '96 timeline was almost perfect imo (needed at least one Jackie mention tho.)

Coach Ben saying FUCK THEM KIDS at the end

Nat little midsommar-ass smile when she is revered as their new Queen

Van-Lottie final interaction

Callie's interesting face at the end, she was hooked on the craziness!

I always expect great needle drops on the 96 timeline, but that Buffy Saint-Marie song on the current one? SLAPPED

The bad:

NAT DYING (I know her sacrifice made sense narratively I DONT CARE)

New Jersey police, apparently, who can get outsmarted by one single lil guy (this was BAD writing)

Tbh the entire '21 timeline :/ (too many men, some characters decisions that still made no sense, after Nat's death it got way too rushed (the season needed those 10 episodes).

Adult Travis should've been there in the plane, next to Javi

The fact that both Walter and Mustache live to see another day (Jeff's still on fucking thin ice)

The ugly:

The way the adult yellowjackets mishandled Lottie's mental illness, I know they were in the wrong, but it appears the show didn't even try to make a point about that they were wrong.

Anyway, I reeeally hope s3 is better than this one, very excited to see more of Queen Nat, jealous Teen Shauna, adult Van, both Lotties, Callie and crossing my fingers Walter and Mustache Cop die offscreen on the way to their home planet or something.

[twosides--samecoin]

also, unsure if you ever read pokemon fic, but if you appreciate music informing the reader of a character's personality and diegetic music, you may enjoy "make you suffer" by girllikesubstance on ao3. i certainly did! it's written like an action movie but with solid characterization; i literally cannot recommend the author's work enough.

Oh, I have not, thank you for the recommendation!

"Diegetic music", for anyone who's never heard of it, refers to any in-universe music or lyric that is interacted with or acknowledged by the characters. The musical episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer is entirely diegetic music, performed by the characters; however the intro theme of that show is not.

I consider music a main character in the fic. It started with choosing song titles for chapters and the fic title, then it snowballed into, "How do I indicate to the reader Music Is Happening in a natural way that doesn't always need me introducing, like, 'a guitar rang out/a solemn voice sang', etc?" How do you solve the characters hearing what the reader can only, well, read? Sure, I have some playlists on Spotify to follow along, but as Marshall McLuhan said, "the medium is the message". It must be clear in the writing that music is playing. A new voice has entered the room.

One of my favourite novels is Ulysses by James Joyce. He had a masterful talent for cacophony and onomatopoeia. Several threads of conversations and voices and thoughts all happening at you on one page. And he just goes for it.

I chose to solve the problem by having my own style guide. Lyrics just happen as though they're a person speaking, they're just italicized to indicate it's a recording. Here's an excerpt of one of the most successful examples of diegetic music I have written in the fic, from the chapter Thunder Road.

The radio DJ’s voice interrupted the silence. “Hi, it’s Delia, we got the weather monitor fixed. It’s only a few degrees below freezing tonight and I’m not in a sour mood anymore, so.. Here’s a favorite, for my favorite. Here’s Thunder Road.”  Olivia’s eyes widened as harmonica and piano played together. She turned towards the radio. “Are you serious right now?”  “What?” RJ asked.  "..The screen door slams, Mary's dress sways. Like a vision, she dances across the porch as the radio plays.." Jack smiled. He knew what this song was about and wondered just how well she knew it. He caught Olivia’s eye as she turned away from the radio. RJ saw Jack’s shit-eating grin and knew it meant he figured something out with her. A smile that could mean he was having fun, or he could checkmate you.  The same glance Olivia and Jack shared about him earlier. "..Roy Orbison singing for the lonely, 'Hey that's me and I want you only,' Don't turn me home again, I just can't face myself alone again.." “I- what, why are you looking at me like that-”  “Good song, huh?” he responded, smiling at her. "..Don't run back inside, darling, you know just what I'm here for.." RJ didn’t quite understand what Jack was getting at. The radio was low enough that he could hear the music, but the lyrics were harder to hear from across the room.  “Bruce fan?” Jack asked her. “Yeah, um.. I like him.” Jack’s heart melted. “My wife, Nora, was a huge fan. We have the first seven albums on one holotape,”  “Wait, no way-”  "..So you're scared, and you're thinking that maybe we ain't that young anymore.." “Yeah, way. How many Bruce albums you got in this vault, huh?”  “I don’t,” Olivia told him, looking almost apologetic. “I only get to hear Bruce when he’s on the radio.” 

[becomingpart2]

i agree with you that cordelia is a much more likeable character than caroline because she isn’t so fucking whiny like caroline is. like when cordelia is introduced to the audience on btvs she’s introduced as the mean girl queen bee, and we’re meant to dislike her, but she gradually becomes a more likeable character through her interactions with the scoobies, but whenever she’s being an asshole she’s actually painted as such by the narrative, and she actually grows into a better person to a degree on btvs, and much more on angel. caroline on the other half is introduced in a way to make us feel sorry for her like literally in the first episode she gets rejected by Stefan and whines to Bonnie about how everyone prefers Elena over her. And I remember the episode in season one where Matt, Caroline, Stefan, and Elena go on a double date and she throws a temper tantrum at Elena about how hard it is for Caroline to be everyone’s second choice, as if that’s somehow Elena’s fault lmao??? like Caroline was the most pathetic “mean girl” because she was always whining about people not liking her enough. like caroline was just so whiny, manipulative, and was constantly guilt tripping other characters on the show into feeling sorry for her. whenever cordelia had self absorbed moments they were played for laughs and were not meant to take them seriously, like the scene where she complains that after she ran someone over with her car they were complaining about their leg lmao, like we aren’t meant to take her seriously. like the times where cordelia is being a jerk, the narrative ACTUALLY FRAMES HER AS A JERK lmao. whereas Caroline is constantly excused by the narrative, never held accountable for her actions, and put on a pedestal by the show.

Lmao that Cordelia scene is so funny.

But yes I think that's the crux of it, at least for me. Caroline is whiny, Cordelia isn't. Caroline acts like the world owes her something and we are meant to sympathize with that, to think it's unfair that she's always in Elena's shadow, even though she has all the privileges Elena has; she's white, thin and blonde, which automatically means you're beautiful by western beauty standards. She's feminine and adheres to the society's expectations of her gender, etc.

Cordelia is the comic relief, she's not meant to be taken seriously and nearly everything that she says is so out there that can't be taken any other way lol. Even though there are scenes here and there where we're meant to sympathize with her, she's not presented as a victim or as someone being wronged. When she thinks of Buffy as her enemy/rival, it's ridiculous and meant for laughs (like in The Wish; we the audience are fully aware that she's being full of shit which it's why it's funny/endearing) whereas Caroline's beef with Elena is meant to make us feel sorry for her because life is so unfair to her.

Maybe the argument here is that she's too girly and too clingy and that works against her in opposition to Elena's "cool girl" thing. And okay, I guess that's fair argument but it's not really a reason to make her out to be "oppressed" in any way. She goes through a significant character development and yet she still keeps a bit of this victim complex that results in her being self-absorbed and entitled sometimes and yet every time that happens the show still paints her as the victim and/or a someone who's morally right.

And then there's also the fandom buying into all that and latching onto her character to attack Elena.

Edit: it needs to be said that I liked Caroline for quite some time after she turned. I only started to dislike her when she was turned into mostly a self-insert character and her obvious flaws and mistakes were treated as her being in the right. I think there's an argument to be made that Cordelia also ended up being "mary-sue'd" to a degree on ats but the difference to me, and that's exclusively my personal taste, is that Cordelia wasn't pathetically chasing after angel and victimising herself. The narrative didn't reward her for her mistakes. She was barely aware of angel's feelings for her through most of it, too busy living her life lol and that puts her above Caroline to me.

[acourtcfmuses]

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Buckle up buttercup

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Any ACOTAR mix honestly.

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[thejadedjewel]

Little Muppet Sesame Things #56

Road Trip to New Mexico!

I'm not fully into the realm of Sesame lore, but I think there's some drama with Buffy Sainte-Marie. However, I do like her character on the show and her interactions with everyone. She does appear during this arc in an episode and she and Maria (with Big Bird tagging along) go to a Pueblo to visit the local Indigenous Americans living nearby.

I highlight the bit right before Buffy and Maria meet some of the locals where Maria thinks she might not be accepted and she's afraid she might offend some of the folks since she's not one of them. Buffy then remarks that she's not one of them since she's from a different tribe than the ones they're visiting (She's Cree from Canada while they're visiting Taos Pueblo Native Americans), so they're both visitors and suggest they learn about the Pueblo together.

Note, they use the term Indian during this episode since this was a product of the time, so I'm using (or at least attempting to use) the proper terms for Native/Indigenous Americans.

[shattered-starsxx]

MUSE LIST,

Annelie Silverhallow, OC Shadowhunter - FC: Phoebe Tonkin ( pinny. ) Joanna Harvelle, Supernatural ( slightly divergent ) Canon - FC: Alona Tal ( alt: Sarah Michelle Gellar ) ( pinny. ) Iridián Falkenrath, OC Crime/Preternatural - FC: Charisma Carpenter ( alt: Emeraude Toubia ) ☆ ( crime au • emeraude only. ) ( pinny. ) Buffy Summers, Divergent BTVS/ATS Canon - FC: Olivia Taylor Dudley ( cursed immortality fc: Emily Rose ). ( pinny. ) Beatrix Volkov. OC metahuman - FC: Sarah Michelle Gellar ( alt: katheryn winnick. ) ( pinny. )

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[anonil88]

YELLOW JACKETS S2 FINALE LIVEBLOG 🐝 🐝

Warning spoilers ahead.

-Rest in Peace Dolores. (A fitting song now that I think on it.)

-R.i.p Javi, I really wanted my fellow art kid to survive. I really did.

- Someone knock that fucking table with the Jonestown tea over please. Lottie is doing the absolute fucking most but also Shauna is correct for doing this. When your friends are paranoid you do have to talk them down, but you also need to not make them feel like they are wrong or insane. Because then they may get a little more than upset. I say this as a person with paranoia.

- Personally I think as teens they should gave never fully believed Lottie even if faith was all that was keeping them alive. They could've used that faith to be more resourceful and hop skip their asses to hike. Just like now they should use that faith to call a doctor and NOT do this faux hunt. Maybe a little belief is okay but nothing where a child is seen as prophet who helps everyone survive. Thats pressure that will crack even a non mentally ill person.

- They are all partly responsible for Charlotte being as bad as she is now and as bad as she got. She didn't start anything she just interacting with whatever force may be out there coupled with her mental illness, they all just wanted an excuse to satiate their hunger. Now the way Lottie looked at Misty when she showed up at the camp makes even more sense, she was afraid of her.. These girls, starting with Shauna, rationalized their eatting of Jackie based on their hunger. Then they rationalize it with Javi by using Lottie's belief and mental illness, even though she doesn't want that weight. And now as adults they rationalize their bad behavior and fuck ups by saying "trauma fucked me up" or "this is fine I'm just a little stressed." They know the right thing but age regressed trauma, no talking about their trauma, and pretending to have happy lives or placate it with drugs is just more rationalizing of we did that because something happened to us.

- I was right about the masks and Shauna with the rabbits from season 1. I said in my s1 watch that the masks have always been so they didn't feel as bad about what they were doing, even though it was clear some of them enjoyed it.

- A GUN???? A shotty???

- Awww look at these cute theatre kids.

- Tai is sick very sick but not ward sick, woah lets not do this Van. They both don't need to be institutionalized but they do need proper therapy and medication.

- Shauna is hot with knives I'm sorry Melanie lynsky is my weaknes.

- Is Lottie gonna poison her followers?

- I hope that smug bitch of a cop is the sacrifice.

- I want all these purple clothes and whatever dye they are using. I bet Walter poisoned the tea.

- Well I called that, damn I liked him. Should have been that smug bitch yelling in the background.

- Whoever made that theory about coach simply not making it to the rescue point because he's in that hole, I love you because I think you're correct. Also, the transition from striking flint to light in the cabin wonderful choice TV editors.

- They could at least idk bury the heart, have a little funeral for the boy or create a new tradition with it. Come on now.

- Well okay then Daenerys, but also the metaphor similar to Shauna eatting Jackie's ear. Those lost to the cold are now a piece of them inside them, making them a little colder everyday from the inside out as time goes on. Their trauma with time grows but so does all of the guilt they carry from the inside. Both of them coping with the fact that they both, Travis and Shauna, gave everyone permission to eat their closest person.

- I adore the things they are doing with the audio and Buffy Sainte-Marie's song. No matter what happens i really appreciate the sound and music direction of this show. Oh Charlotte.

- Van not calling the facility wellness crisis team is so fucking stupid. NATALIE!!!!?!?!??? At least they all admit its their fault.

- This is so beautiful and so fucked up. I want them all to hug Lottie so badly, why don't they just hug her and hold her? Why don't they just be there for each other in moments of stress. They don't need to do this, I think that could be the whole tagline for this show. NO ONE NEEDS TO DO THIS.

- Callie!!!!?!?!? GET OUT OF THE WOODS, GET OUT OF THE WOODS.

- SHE PROBABLY FUCKING POISONED THEM ALL. Nooooo lottie nooooo please someone stop this.

- Van was pulled back into this cult of the wilderness fast as fuck, this is what happens when you have nothing to loose. Dark Tai is about to come out to play, so is everyone else's dark side. This is so damn tense and yet Lottie is still even as an adult wishing for it to be her. Her own form of self harm and relief would be to be the queen.

-Oh this all just got very very real.

-"IT WAS JUST US" and Lotties "does it matter?"

- Fuck. They know what they did deep down and why it scares them isn't because its trauma and hunger, but because it was their own choice. And that is a deep deep trauma that only survivors can experience, a guilt that will never go away.

- The storyteller, the sleepwalker, the priest, the doctor, the hunter, the butcher, and the antler queen.

- Oh Lottie, she HAD to separate herself from this wilderness construct just so she wouldn't completely loose her mind. Then she passed it to the next person and they passed it to the next and the next until there wasn't anyone or enough to pass it to. And then they had to look in the mirror and realize it was just them when they were rescued. A group of kids with a false religion they created to justify the actions they made in their hunger and desperation.

- His heart. The tension is grows please stop everyone just stop..

- Oh Nat. Oh Misty.

- She was finally sober, that card finally checked in. The wilderness is just death. It follows us all. They came so close to it in a final destination way that it just looms behind and in them, waiting. Waiting for Tai to embrace it with open eyes and the rest when their eyes finally close.

- These girls make me so angry because of their starved or childish actions, they are so the same and yet different from before the crash. Yet still, seeing them as grown women who simply reflections of young girls and kids that are damaged and near death makes me want to hug them so tight. Misty fucked up all of their lives by smashing that black box in a juvenile attempt to be loved.

- Coach you are so fucked up for that but I get it. Those girls took everything they could, he knew they would tear eachother apart even without survival. So he left them to the cold. Any humanity and hope they had is now gone with their shelter. But it also now will provide a giant signal that may get them home in....10 months?

- I need a drink or one of nats cigarettes.

Final thoughts: These writers know how to do a red herring right! Of course the pacing gets better in the last episode of the season but I desperately need them to work on middle of the season pacing and getting down the timeline flipping to a science. Great finale with some misses but a good wrap up if this strike lasts a long while. Imma miss my leather jacket baddie. Heavens gate honey should be the NOT cult's new flavor. Also, I think in the future the group can lie to cover up the Kevyn connection by saying that he and Nat reconnected and were doing drugs together and that's how it got into both of their system. The toxicology won't lie but they might get away per se if they say the drugs were laced. Damn her whole non soccer highschool friend group is gone.

Edit: HUGE FINAL POINT I REALIZED, all of them except Van, she is ready to die, had hidden weapons in their final hunt. Tai became sleep Tai, Natalie had her shiv, Misty had a needle with fent, Lottie brought an actual sharp knife, and Shauna had unknowingly Callie with a gun. None of them trust eachother enough to think they won't murder eachother in a *faux* hunt. What does that say about what else they did out there? Also this mimics what Shauna said last episode that she would murder their spouses if they did what Jeff did. She also left the circle terrified because they may chase her but they also might not, and she can't be sure if its because of the past or her recent fuck ups. The risk that they might have actually killed whoever pulled that card no matter the rouse to save Lottie or not was present to all of them. They are still those girls.

(Insert Gif of Natalie smiling)

[flowers-and-potions]

OOC Rules/About

Follows back from @bearmojis

-My characters are NOT ME. I don't always agree with them. You don't get a pass to call me an "apologist" or spread rumours.

-Bigots will be blocked on sight, yes, this also means if you use slurs that you can't reclaim or for their intended purpose, or if you deliberately misgender my characters.

-No underage mun or muse interactions.

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-Compatible universes (I.e. modern, relatively sensical as opposed to creepypasta and Naruto) strongly preferred.

-No Hunters from now on. Includes Puritans, Buffy, the weird tradcath brigade, etc.

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I have muted: worms, gore, children, pregnancy, parasites

[kieran-of-absinthe]

Follows back from @bearmojis

-My characters are NOT ME. I don't always agree with them. You don't get a pass to call me an "apologist" or spread rumours.

-Bigots will be blocked on sight, yes, this also means if you use slurs that you can't reclaim or for their intended purpose, or if you deliberately misgender my characters.

-No underage mun or muse interactions.

-We're all fully grown humans. Act like it. I'm not interested in arguing about Mary Sues or who fucked who or who hates who on a damn website.

-Compatible universes (I.e. modern, relatively sensical as opposed to creepypasta and Naruto) strongly preferred.

-No Hunters from now on. Includes Puritans, Buffy, the weird tradcath brigade, etc.

Mild flirting: Yes.

Shipping: Ask first.

NSFW: Ask first.

Occasional snark: Yes.

PVP: Ask first.

Catcalling/sexually harassing comments: No.

Slurs: No.

Constantly negative interaction: No.

IRL thirst: No.

I have muted: worms, gore, children, pregnancy, parasites

[blackforestdeerman]

OOC Rules/About

Follows back from @bearmojis Personals that are RP hubs=fine, but don't put my IC posts on your main. Personals that aren't connected with RP blogs, don't reblog things. It's weird and uncomfortable.

-My characters are NOT ME. I don't always agree with them. You don't get a pass to call me an "apologist" or spread rumours.

-Bigots will be blocked on sight, yes, this also means if you use slurs that you can't reclaim or for their intended purpose, or if you deliberately misgender my characters.

-No underage mun or muse interactions.

-We're all fully grown humans. Act like it. I'm not interested in arguing about Mary Sues or who fucked who or who hates who on a damn website.

-Compatible universes (I.e. modern, relatively sensical as opposed to creepypasta and Naruto) strongly preferred.

-No Hunters from now on. Includes Puritans, Buffy, the weird tradcath brigade, etc.

Mild flirting: Yes.

Shipping: Ask first.

NSFW: Ask first.

Occasional snark: Yes.

PVP: Ask first.

Catcalling/sexually harassing comments: No.

Slurs: No.

Constantly negative interaction: No.

IRL thirst: No.

I have muted: worms, gore, children, pregnancy, parasites

[ghostbiantremere]

OOC Rules/About

Follows back from @bearmojis

-My characters are NOT ME. I don't always agree with them. You don't get a pass to call me an "apologist" or spread rumours.

-Bigots will be blocked on sight, yes, this also means if you use slurs that you can't reclaim or for their intended purpose, or if you deliberately misgender my characters.

-No underage mun or muse interactions.

-We're all fully grown humans. Act like it. I'm not interested in arguing about Mary Sues or who fucked who or who hates who on a damn website.

-Compatible universes (I.e. modern, relatively sensical as opposed to creepypasta and Naruto) strongly preferred.

-No Hunters from now on. Includes Puritans, Buffy, the weird tradcath brigade, etc.

Mild flirting: Yes.

Shipping: Ask first.

NSFW: Ask first.

Occasional snark: Yes.

PVP: Ask first.

Catcalling/sexually harassing comments: No. Slurs: No.

Constantly negative interaction: No.

IRL thirst: No.

I have muted: worms, gore, children, pregnancy, parasites

[phishphin]

OKAY!! This got a little more traction than I thought it would, so I thought I'd add some context to some of these songs! My reasons for adding, lyrical analysis and so on. (I'm not at ALL trying to avoid doing my assignments no not at all :>>>) This is going to be kind of long so strap in!!!!

1. Universal Soldier, Buffy Sainte-Marie Most of these lyrics are very Kaladin, upon listening this becomes very obvious, but I'll pick some of my favorites.

"He's all of 31 and he's only 17/ He's been a soldier for a thousand years" Kaladin starts out his career in the military incredibly young, and in Cenn's chapter everyone is appalled at how young but still in control of himself he is. This reaction to Kaladin's age continues throughout basically every book (most notably I think when Teft begins speaking with him, as well as the way Dalinar interacts with him). He's incredibly mature for his age, but the fact that he's still at most 19 shines through in some of his most pressing/traumatic moments. I think specifically of this specific moment in Oathbringer, where he's leaning over Adolin's body in Shadesmar:

“You know what you need to do. “I … can’t,” Kaladin finally whispered, tears streaming down his cheeks. “I can’t lose him, but … oh, Almighty … I can’t save him.” Kaladin bowed his head, sagging forward, trembling. He couldn’t say those Words.” (I'm sorry! :))

"And he knows he shouldn't kill,/ and he knows he always will."

This is a pretty obvious lyric I think, at multiple points throughout the books Kaladin struggles with the fact that he was raised to be a doctor and surgeon, yet now his job, for better or for worse, is to do the opposite. That despite how he was raised, he's good at fighting and how his father despises it.

"And he's fighting for Canada, he's fighting for France/ He's fighting for the USA/ And he's fighting for the/ Russians and he's fighting for Japan/ And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way"

This lyric in part reminds me specifically of Kaladin's journey in TWoK and WoR. He fights in both Amaram's and Sadeas' armies (albeit against his will), then fights for Dalinar in an attempt to put an end to the evils Sadeas has committed against the bridgemen (and Dalinar, and Roshar, and and and etc.)

"Without him, Caesar would have stood alone/ He's the one who gives his body as the weapon of the war/ And without him all this killing can't go on"

So! Kaladin is quite literally the biggest trump card/pawn in all of the books. He gets traded and tossed around (like in the lyric above). One of the biggest reasons Dalinar can get anything done in WoR is because he has Kaladin and his bridgemen to rely on, Kaladin quite literally is the weapon. He killed Shallan's brother (unknowingly) as his one of his first heroic acts (which can be debated as to whether it actually was heroic or not- I would say his actual first heroic act was volunteering to go join Amaram's troops with Tien, but I digress) which now looking back on it and knowing who Helaran Davar was.. Well, you get my point.

2. Five Years, David Bowie

"I never though I'd need so many people"

Bridge Four. The Kholin family. Yeah.

"A soldier with a broken arm/ Fixed his stare to the wheels of a Cadilac"

All of the injured soldiers from Bridge Four; Hobber, Lopen, Dabbid. This imagery just evokes the same feeling I got during the scene when all of the bridgemen became Kaladin's squires and started to gain their powers (while some of them took a little longer than others, or believed they couldn't).

"I think I saw you in an ice cream parlor/ Drinking milk shalkes, cold and long/ Smiling and waving and looking so fine"

This reminded me of Kaladin's assorted flashbacks to Tien and his childhood. I also just believe that Kaladin should visit an ice cream parlor, the man deserves it. He should've been at the club HE SHOULD'VE BEEN AT CARVEL! DAIRY QUEEN! Insert ice cream store chain here. Anyways.

"And it was cold, and it rained, so I felt like an actor/ And I thought of 'ma and I wanted to get back there"

In the first part of this lyric I'm reminded of RoW, Chapter 80:

“The image of the dog in the rain felt far too familiar to Kaladin. Far too personal.”

And the latter half reminds me of the scene of Kal, Tien, and Hesina lying on their roof in the rain. 3. Brain Damage, Pink Floyd This song just reminds of of Taravangian and him sliding between intelligent madness and stupid empathy. I'll just list the lyrics for this because most of them are quite obvious.

"And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too/ I'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

"The lunatic is in my head/ You raise the blade/ You make the change."

^^These two remind me specifically of Taravangian's interactions with Dalinar.

"You lock the door/ And throw away the key/ There's someone in my head but it's not me"

4. Lucky, Radiohead

"Pull me out of the air crash/ Pull me out of the lake/ 'Cause I'm your superhero/ We are standing on the edge"

This lyric is incredibly reminiscent of how Bridge Four treated Kaladin when he started to train them while still working in Sadeas' bridge crews. Especially with how poor Kaladin's mental health was in comparison to how the bridgemen treated him (Cough cough, Teft). They were constantly in danger, always on the edge of death (whether it was when Kaladin was literally on deaths door after being tossed out in the highstorm, or being sent to die on bridge runs).

"The head of state, has called for me, by name/ But I don't have time for him"

Yeah, this happens to Kaladin at least once a book, if not more.

"It's gonna be a glorious day!/ I feel my luck could change"

AND FOR MY BOON! (Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up what are you doing shut up shut up shut up shut up)

5. Bigmouth Strikes Again, The Smiths

All I have to say is Morrissey had no idea how Joan of Arc felt, but Kaladin Stormblessed sure as braize does.

6. Lover, You Should've Come Over, Jeff Buckley

Hear me out. This song to me is very... Dalinar. Would he listen to it? Only while alone, and he wouldn't admit to it (unless we're talking post Oathbringer Dalinar).

"Maybe I'm too young/ To keep good love from going wrong/ But tonight you're on my mind/ So.. you'll never know/ Broken down and hungry for your love/ With no way to feed it"

Young Dalinar (feral Dalinar? Might I say) while married to Evi knew he still was in love with Navani. But he couldn't do anything about it. To me, it seemed that Dalinar did love Evi, but not as a wife, not in the same way that Evi loved him. Evi gave him Adolin and then Renarin, and nearing the end of their time together it was clear he respected her and that they were close in the ways they had to be.

But he still wanted Navani, and knew he couldn't have her (that's what happens when you take the L and your brother marries your first love. Dalinar's biggest L perhaps?).

"Sometimes a man gets carried away/ When he feels like should be having his fun/ Much too blind to the see the damage he's done/ Sometime a man must awake to find that/ Really has no one" Dalinar gets carried away many times in his youth. Every flashback of him in Oathbringer is him just playing a first person shooter irl no guns all sword. Part of that was the thrill, but I think what made him so susceptible to Odium and the thrill was the fact that that's just who he was. He was the brother of the king, he proved himself useful and absolutely ruthless in battle. Galivar would've never conquered all of Alethkar if it weren't for Dalinar, and once they'd finally had their kingdom? Galivar had the kingship, had Navani, he had an heir and a ridiculously intelligent daughter. And Dalinar was married to a woman he didn't truly love, he had two sons yes, but he was basically untamed from his years of constant warfare and his addiction to the thrill. Then, when Evi dies, what does Dalinar have? He doesn't have the throne (he scared himself shitless out of that), he doesn't have Evi (who, while he did not love romantically, she still was incredibly important to him and a large part of his life, adding onto the fact that he believed he'd murdered her), and he 'gave up' the thrill. So as many addicts do, he replaced one addiction with another and turned to drinking.

"It's never over/ My kingdom for a kiss upon her shoulder/ It's never over/ All my riches for her smiles/ When I've slept so soft against her/ It's never over/ All my blood for the sweetness of her laughter/ It's never over/ She is the tear the hangs inside my soul forever"

They're really my two favorite straight people. I must say. Dalinar risked a lot for his relationship with Navani, his political standing, the respect of the people. Because of Navani, Dalinar learned to read and was able to finally step away from Vorinism, where he originally clung to at least the facade of looking like he still believed in the religion. Navani was his biggest catalyst for taking the step into becoming a 'heretic' and making the moves needed to help his people. He waited, what, thirty or so years to marry her? Yeah. They're real yearners. They get it. I want to eat them alive.

7. Communication Breakdown, Led Zeppelin

FUCK YEAH. Honestly, forget why I added this to this playlist. It's kinda just like Freebird. Sometimes you just have to imagine fight scenes to dadrock you know. Guitar solo or something. You feel??

9. Black Sun, Death Cab for Cutie

NOW! MASSIVE PREFACE! One of you guys said this was a Kaladin song, and I've searched for hours TO SEE WHO POSTED IT AND I CANT FIND IT. If it was you please pm me and I’ll tag you, I owe you my life.

"There is fear in the eyes of your father/ And there is 'Yours' and there is 'Mine'"

Kaladin and Lirin's relationship to me is like the Bible. As someone who's father works in medicine and as someone who studied and worked in healthcare for a time and found it wasnt quite what I needed, I think about them a lot. Lirin makes no attempt to mask his revulsion for violence and warfare in front of Kaladin, and you can't necessarily blame him. He's had to deal with the effects of such violence in his profession and would much rather to not have to. Lirin's way is pacifism. Kaladin's way is, in some ways, 'ends justify the means' (I think his outlook on his actions is a little more nuanced, but it get's the point across).

"How could something so fair/ Be so cruel/ When this black sun revolved/ Around you!"

Lirin has to battle with how he originally saw his son vs how his son returned to him. A young boy who's intention was to study medicine (as much as that was placed upon him), his son who was incredibly helpful but always carried this sadness around with him. His son, who against his warnings, still went after his younger brother to protect him. And then the man that returned to Hearthstone during it's darkest hour, and instead of returning a surgeon, Kaladin returned as one of the most dangerous and powerful of soldiers yet seen (except probably for Dalinar in Rathalas lmfao). Not only that, but he practiced for it, and in a sense, enjoyed it. (I don't think Kaladin enjoys the fighting and warfare, however I do think I feels at home in it. It's what he knows, it's what he's trained for, and it's where his friends and family are. It's where he knows he can contribute the most with his skills.) 10. Helplessness Blues, Fleet Foxes

"I was raised up believing/ I was somehow unique"

Kaladin was raised being told he was supposed to be a surgeon. He was a high ranking darkeyes because of his fathers job, he was told he was above being a farmer, a soldier, a laborer. His parents gave him a lighteye'd name, as much an omen as Ialai's name. They believed he was destined to do something great (as many parents do with their children).

"And now after some thinking/ I'd say I'd rather be/ A functioning cog in some great machinery/ Serving something beyond me" As Kaladin got older, he grew to resent the lighteyes more and more (for good reason). He began to, through his distaste for them, prefer is station among darkeyes.

"I'll get back to you someday soon, you will see"

Kaladin, while Tien was still alive, wanted nothing more to get back to his parents with his younger brother and just serve his time and get out.

But you can't tell me there wasn't some part of Kaladin, the part of him that had always wanted to be a solider, that wouldn't revel in the idea of going back to his parents when he was done and being able to tell them he'd done well.

"I don't need to be kind to the armies of night/ That would do such injustice to you/ Or bow down and be grateful/ And say, 'Sure take all that you see'/ To the men that move only in dimly-lit halls/ and determine my future for me"

After Tien's death and having killed Helaran, Kaladin dug hard into the fact that he was a darkeyes as a source of pride. He hated Amaram for what had happened to Tien, for the deaths of his men for the shardplate, especially when he only had good intentions. (Especially given the fact that, as Lirin's son he hadn't wanted the shards because of how destructive they are. And how Amaram wouldn't have given them to him anyways. His punishment of watching his men fight for their lives and being slaughtered only because he'd fought well in battle, for Kal protected Amaram, the man he hated most, from Helaran and earned those shards protecting him).

"If I know only one thing/ It's that every thing that I see/ Of the world outside is so inconceivable/ Often I can barely speak/ Yeah Im tongue tied and dizzy/ and I can't keep it to myself"

While being transported in the slave caravan, Kaladin, nor anyone else in the cart with him spoke. They refused to talk about their lives before. But, when Syl kept 'bothering' him, finally he cracked and spoke with her. Eventually, the two of them began to trust each other and Kaladin would joke with her, they would plan and help each other.

"If I had an orchard/ I'd work 'til i'm raw/ If I had an orchard/ I'd work 'til I'm sore" When given the chance, Kaladin took every opportunity given (or just straight up schemed until he made it happen) to better the quality of life for the people around him, and thus himself. When told he needed to learn to ride horses to guard Elhokar, he took all of his people and they worked until they were quite literally sore. And many such examples lol. OKAY !!! THANK YOU FOR READING. If you have any comments, or recommendations or want to tell me im wrong or something let me know. If you're the person who said Black Sun was the Kal song please hmu, I owe you my life and want to make sure you're properly tagged in this. AND IF ANYONE SAW ME POST THIS EARLY BY ACCIDENT. No you didn't. I'll send Vyre after you.

Felt the need to share my Stormlight playlist. If anyone makes fun of it I WILL! kill myself no questions asked.

That said if you have questions, please do ask. :)

The playlist cover is a picture of when I hit a curb and got a flat tire (I felt like Kaladin Stormblessed)

[annyankers]

I would love to hear more about your Angel !!

oKAY SO ANGEL

his tag on here is angel (train’s version) for reference. also my old rp blog for him is @aithrioch which has some things like headcanons and aesthetics.

Okay gonna make an effort to not repeat myself though I also can’t completely remember what I’ve already said so B)

More emphasis on his time homeless. Like it’s brought up in more when it makes sense and it becomes especially important in ATS and becomes a point of bonding and discussion between him and Gunn.

Dating Buffy is probably his biggest lapse in judgement since wandering into an alley to get laid in the 1700s and it shows. Like he walked in knowing this was a bad idea, saw every red flag and did it anyway. It’s not a reemergence of Angelus behavior it’s Peak Liam Nonsense and it’s left his relationship and feelings towards Buffy very complex and fucked. I think from like BTVS S4/ATS S1 on his primary feeling towards her isn’t really love but guilt. Guilt over how much he fucked up her life and not just as Angelus but you know, as an adult engaging romantically with a teen.

Angelus has more of a Hannibal Lector vibe.

Heavy substance abuse in BTVS as part of coping. When we see him in btvs he’s literally JUST stopped living on the streets in the Depths of Despair. So in btvs S1-2 he’s smoking and drinking heavily to try and make it through another moment on this bitch of an earth. The drinking isn’t as obvious an issue until Buffy’s with him more. Ironically angelus drinks and smokes a normal ass amount because he’s not Lamenting and angel stops doing both in s3 since you know.... fresh outta hell and all that. don’t worry he’s back to chain smoking when he gets into ATS lol. It becomes a Running Issue with him and his Very Human and Lung Dependent Staff.

He listens to the smiths, the cure and similar music. He’s that kinda person. yes. also still listens to barry mannilow. he’s a man of many facets.

He’s Very Normal about Darla. So Normal.

Angel(us) has a Complex around his visual age and how it tends mean that he isn’t given much respect. Part of what fueled his actions back in the day was clout building so he’d get some fucking respect and stop being treated like a baby faced loser.

Circling back to the Buffy thing he realizes in ATS S2 that he perpetuated the cycle of abuse/grooming with her that Darla perpetuated on him. Because Darla 10000% groomed and manipulated him.

Darla and Angel have a Louis and Lestat vibe (but like..... more the new series version of them you know????)

Falls back into Catholicism after his time in hell for the comfort of it. he was born in 1700s Ireland where church was the center of life and Catholicism is like, the most ritualistic version of Christianity. It’s the familiarity and ritual/schedule of it that are comforting/helpful for him, less so the religious stuff. Even so ats needed more catholic stuff in it. Catholic ideology is a staple of angel’s thinking, the bedrock of it really. Literally all this shit about sin and redemption and shit is so aggressively catholic. He’s literally out here looking for a priest who can tell him how many Hail Marys he needs to say to atone for the Atrocities.

Is actually very jealous of Spike later into BTVS/ATS. When Spike’s hanging out with the Scoobies n shit just fine because Spike’s capable of that kind of interaction without a soul while Angel has one and still struggles with it. It’s one of the few things in which he gets jealous of Spike over, how easy it is for him to straddle the soul/morality/dark impulse control chasm. Like it’s very unlikely he’d ever say it out loud or tell the Scoobies but Angel knows just how difficult chip or no chip some vampires would find it to be even remotely civil let alone actually work with them. it frustrates him endlessly that Spike has it so easy.

Yes even as Angel he DOES have an EGO.

Angel(us) is just a metric ton of complexes in a trenchcoat. ATS is just a guided tour through them.

In my brain he’s a mix of Marcus from Deadly Class, Stefan from The Vampire Diaries and Hannibal Lector from the Movies and Shows. Along with some Columbo and Stock Lovecraft Protagonist for flavor.

He’s so pretentious, so lifeless and pallid. He’s like a drive thru attendant with an MFA in fine arts during a graveyard shift.

okay this is all I’m doing on this for now as opposed to the fucking NOVEL for Xander because I don’t have the energy/brain power for it now and if I waited for that to happen to write another novel it could be another 80 years lol