#✨UNRESOLVED GAY TENSION✨

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Tyden exes au cuz I’m brainrotted

They thought they’d never see or talk to each other again…

…but they did :3

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—situationships in queer relationships ᝰ.ᐟ

dating is already a mess, but queer dating? a whole new level of confusion. and that’s where situationships come in. basically, it’s like you’re kind of together, but also... not really. no labels, no clear direction, just vibezzzz (and maybe some unresolved emotional tension lol)

queer people deal with situationships a lot. sometimes it’s intentional, sometimes it’s a trauma response, and sometimes it’s just the reality of modern dating. but before we dive into why this happens, let’s break down how situationships show up in different types of queer relationships.

note: i will not be talking about all queer types. just a few chosen ones, so that everybody can understand what i am talking about more or less.

╭┉┈ what are we?

gay situationships (mlm, gay men, bi/pan men, etc.)

commitment issues? check.

emotional vulnerability? no thanks.

hookup culture taking over? absolutely.

the gay dating scene is wild. a lot of it is built around casual connections— grindr, tinder, and the whole "no strings attached" mindset. some people are genuinely chill with that, but for others, it turns into a cycle of emotional detachment. they want something real, but they’re scared to admit it. situationship unlocked.

lesbian situationships (wlw, sapphic, bi/pan women, etc.)

is this a relationship or just extreme emotional closeness?

we’ve been "talking" for six months, should i say something?

overthinking every single text message.

wlw dynamics are weird because they can go from zero to moving in together fast. but when they don’t? it’s just months of deep emotional bonding with zero clarity. both people keep waiting for the other to define the relationship, and before you know it, you’re stuck in a "do we like each other or are we just best friends who hold hands and make out?" loop.

trans women + cishet men situationships

"i really like you, but i’m not ready to go public."

secret relationships & low-effort commitment.

fetishization vs. actual respect.

shemale assumption.

this one is rough. a lot of cishet men who date trans women aren’t actually ready to date trans women. they like the idea, but they’re scared of what people will think, so they keep it lowkey. sometimes it’s just internalized transphobia, sometimes it’s straight-up cowardice. either way, it leaves trans women stuck in situationships where they’re never treated like a real partner.

non-binary + genderqueer situationships

"i don’t believe in labels" (until it’s convenient).

people acting confused about attraction instead of just vibing.

getting misgendered in a relationship that isn’t even a relationship.

non-binary dating is weird because people either hyper-fixate on your gender identity or pretend it doesn’t exist. situationships happen a lot because partners don’t know how to navigate attraction outside the gender binary, so they just... avoid defining anything at all.

╭┉┈ why do situationships even happen in queer relationships?

fear of commitment (but make it ✨queer trauma✨)

rejection? abandonment? never feeling truly wanted? does these sound familiar :)

a lot of queer people grow up without healthy relationship role models.

choosing emotional safety over vulnerability.

bad communication (or just straight-up avoidance)

"we don’t need labels" = "i don’t want to talk about what this actually is."

waiting for the other person to bring it up.

assuming the other person wants the same thing without asking.

exploration & self-discovery

queer people often use situationships to figure out their sexuality/gender.

sometimes you don’t even know what you want yet, so defining it feels impossible.

personally talking, i'm kinda ok with this one if it's said before the situationship starts.

social stigma & external pressure

some people keep things casual because they’re scared of being outed.

others don’t want to deal with society’s expectations of what their relationship should look like.

so, what’s the impact of all this?

anxiety and emotional exhaustion from never knowing where you stand.

reinforcing a culture of non-commitment in queer spaces.

for some, it’s empowering. for others, it’s just sad.

the truth is, situationships aren’t inherently bad. they can be a way to explore relationships without pressure. but when they’re built on avoidance, miscommunication, or fear? that’s when it gets toxic. queer people deserve relationships that feel safe, stable, and fulfilling whether they come with a label or not.

╭┉┈ types of queer situationships & the unique struggles they bring

so let’s break down the different types of queer situationships, because every community has its own unique spin on these emotionally messy scenarios. and trust me, each one has its own flavor of confusion.

gay situationships (mlm, gay men, bi/pan men, etc.)

commitment? nah, let’s keep it casual.

emotions? uh, maybe later.

hookup culture taking over? you know it.

gay dating is tricky. like, on one hand, hookup culture is all about instant gratification, so it’s easy to fall into a situationship where no one is really sure what’s going on. maybe you’ve been texting, maybe you’ve hooked up a few times, but does that mean you’re together? well... not exactly.

fear of emotional vulnerability is huge here. a lot of gay men (and bi/pan men too) are scared to open up because they've been hurt before. maybe they've had bad experiences with rejection or discrimination, so instead of risking heartbreak, they keep things chill and avoid anything that resembles a real relationship.

toxic masculinity plays a role too. like, there's this idea that being too emotional or vulnerable makes you “weak” or less of a man. so, even if there’s a real connection, it stays unsaid or undefined.

grindr and dating apps don’t help. apps make everything seem like it’s either a hookup or nothing at all, which keeps everyone in the non-committal zone.

lesbian situationships (wlw, sapphic, bi/pan women, etc.)

"are we dating or just really close friends?"

"i’m emotionally invested, but do i even want to define this?"

"okay, so when do we become official?"

now, wlw situationships are a whole vibe. lesbians (and bi/pan women) have a unique problem: everything can get really intense emotionally, really fast. you’re spending hours texting, hanging out, sharing intimate details of your life, but then… is it a relationship? and if you don’t call it that, what are you even doing?

the "U-Haul" stereotype is a real thing, but not in the way people think. (U-Haul is a stereotype in lesbians which is about lesbians going from "hi, what's your name?" to "let's move in, get married and adopt a cat!") it’s not always about moving in right away, but it’s about how quickly emotions can get tangled, even if the commitment isn’t there yet. so when emotions are high and clarity is low, that’s prime situationship territory.

miscommunication is often the culprit. someone wants to make it official, but they’re scared to rock the boat, so they don’t say anything. meanwhile, the other person might be waiting for an official "let’s be a thing" moment and is too afraid to ask.

there’s also this fear of labeling—being queer, especially in spaces that aren’t always supportive, means avoiding labels that feel too limiting. but sometimes, that avoidance just creates more tension.

trans women + cishet men situationships

"i’m into you, but i’m not ready for everyone to know."

"i’m attracted to you, but am i allowed to love you publicly?"

"is this just a phase, or is it real?"

this one’s messy for a lot of reasons. cishet men dating trans women can face a ton of internalized issues, ranging from fetishization to shame. trans women often get stuck in situationships where they’re not treated like actual partners— just a "forbidden" attraction.

cis-het men who date trans women may not be ready to go public with it. they might worry about how society or their friends will react, especially if they’re not comfortable with their attraction to trans women.

fetishization is a huge issue here. trans women might get seen as "exotic" or a "novelty" rather than a partner, and that’s damaging. when this is the case, situationships become more about exploring an idea of a trans woman than respecting her as a real person. shemale? get a life.

transphobia also plays a huge role. many cishet men are in situationships because they don’t know how to process the relationship without internalized transphobia, and they might hide their dating life to avoid confrontation.

non-binary + genderqueer situationships

"wait, so what are we?"

"i’m not sure how to label this, so i’m not going to label it at all."

"how do we navigate this attraction without enforcing gender norms?"

non-binary and genderqueer people face a unique set of challenges in dating. dating outside the binary means avoiding labels, which can be freeing, but also confusing when it comes to navigating relationships.

many partners are unsure how to navigate attraction to non-binary folks because they’re not working with a clear gender binary. this can lead to a lot of unclear expectations.

misgendering is common—sometimes, people will call their non-binary partner by the wrong pronouns without thinking or because they don’t know better. and when a non-binary person is in a situationship, it’s harder to set boundaries or communicate feelings without feeling misunderstood.

situationships happen when the other person can’t move beyond their own confusion or limited understanding of gender. it’s easier to not define things than to face the discomfort of breaking out of the traditional relationship structure.

queerplatonic situationships (friends-to-lovers ambiguity, etc.)

"we’re super close, but am i actually in love with you?"

"i love you, but do i love you that way?"

"can we be queerplatonic partners and not define it as romantic?"

this one’s for all the queerplatonic relationships out there. these relationships are often intense, emotional, and deep—but they don’t always follow the usual romantic or friendship lines.

friends-to-lovers situationships are very real, and sometimes it’s hard to tell if you’re just really close friends or actually developing romantic feelings.

aro/ace spectrum dynamics can make things even more complicated because some people don’t experience attraction in the same way. when someone’s relationship doesn’t fit the traditional romantic mold, they’re left to figure out how to label it—or if they even need to.

emotional intimacy can be just as strong, if not stronger, than sexual attraction, leading to long-term situationships where no one feels the need to define the relationship beyond the emotional connection.

this is just a glimpse of how situationships show up across different queer relationships. each one has its own set of struggles, but they all have one thing in common— confusion and lack of clarity.

╭┉┈ why do queer situationships even happen?

let’s get into why situationships happen in the first place. like, why do so many queer people end up in these undefined, emotionally draining, sometimes fun-but-mostly-confusing relationships? well, it’s not just "modern dating culture." it runs way deeper than that.

commitment issues feat. queer trauma

rejection. abandonment. never feeling truly wanted.

growing up without healthy relationship models makes commitment terrifying.

emotional detachment becomes a defense mechanism.

so many queer people grew up in environments where love was conditional—or where they weren’t even allowed to explore love freely. if you’ve spent your whole life being told your identity is wrong or that you’ll never find a "real" partner, of course you’re gonna have issues with commitment.

fear of rejection is a huge factor. after years of being told "this isn’t real love" or "you’re just confused," it’s easy to internalize the idea that any relationship you form is temporary or unstable.

abandonment issues are real. a lot of queer people have been ghosted, cut off by family, or left behind by people who couldn’t "handle" their queerness. so, what do they do? they avoid deep emotional investment to protect themselves.

attachment styles come into play too. many queer people develop avoidant attachment, where they crave connection but push people away before they can be hurt. others fall into anxious attachment, where they latch onto someone who isn’t fully available, hoping they’ll finally be chosen.

bad communication (or straight-up avoidance)

"we don’t need labels" = "i don’t want to talk about what this actually is."

waiting for the other person to bring it up (spoiler: they won’t).

assuming the other person wants the same thing without asking.

queer dating can be messy because no one wants to be the one to define things.

a lot of people think avoiding labels = avoiding problems, but in reality, it just creates more problems.

there’s also this unspoken pressure in queer spaces to be super chill and low-maintenance—so bringing up "what are we?" feels like breaking some kind of sacred rule.

some people assume that because they vibe, they must be on the same page. but just because someone acts like your partner doesn’t mean they see themselves as one.

pro tip: if you don’t communicate, you’re not in a situationship— you’re just in a mess.

exploration & self-discovery (aka "am i actually into this person or am i just figuring myself out?")

sometimes, situationships happen because people are still figuring out their identity.

attraction can be confusing, and experimenting without commitment feels safer.

internalized homophobia or transphobia can make people hesitant to claim a relationship.

for a lot of queer people, dating = self-discovery.

maybe someone just came out and isn’t sure what they really want yet. so they end up in a situationship, using it as a low-pressure way to explore attraction.

some people think they want a situationship, but they’re actually just scared to admit they want something serious.

internalized homophobia or transphobia can also play a role. if someone has spent years suppressing their feelings, they might not know how to embrace a real relationship, so they keep things casual to protect themselves from judgment.

social stigma & being out

some people keep things casual because they’re scared of being outed.

relationships that don’t fit the "heteronormative mold" get questioned more.

certain queer identities aren’t always taken seriously in relationships.

not every queer person wants a situationship— sometimes, society forces them into one.

people who aren’t fully out might avoid defining a relationship to avoid drawing attention.

trans and non-binary people face extra scrutiny, so their partners might hesitate to acknowledge the relationship openly.

bisexual and pansexual people often get hit with "you’re just confused," which makes some partners hesitant to fully commit.

basically, the world still has a long way to go in respecting queer relationships, and that pressure seeps into how people date.

the hookup culture dilemma (i hate this one)

dating apps make it way too easy to keep things surface-level.

the fear of "settling" keeps people from committing.

ghosting and low-effort dating are normalized.

hookup culture isn’t inherently bad, but let’s be real—it feeds into situationships.

there’s always this feeling of "someone better might be out there," so people hesitate to commit.

casual relationships can be great, but when people start catching feelings and pretending they haven’t, things get messy.

ghosting, breadcrumbing (giving just enough attention to keep someone hooked), and non-committal dating have all become the norm. instead of breaking up, people just... disappear.

emotional intimacy ≠ romantic commitment

some people just crave deep connection without the relationship part.

queer friendships can be super intimate, making lines blurry.

some people don’t even want a traditional relationship.

not all situationships are about avoiding love— sometimes, it’s just about redefining what love is.

some people genuinely prefer deep emotional connections without the pressure of a romantic relationship.

queer friendships can be so emotionally intense that it feels like a relationship, even when it’s not.

some people are on the aromantic spectrum and don’t experience romantic attraction the same way, but still want closeness.

so while some situationships are accidental or messy, others are actually just a new way of looking at relationships that don’t follow the traditional dating structure.

so... are situationships good or bad?

tbh, it depends. situationships aren’t inherently bad, but they’re not always healthy either.

if both people are on the same page and genuinely happy? cool.

if one person wants more and the other is just stringing them along? yikes.

if it’s all based on fear, avoidance, or trauma? double yikes.

at the end of the day, queer people deserve relationships that make them feel safe, wanted, and respected— whether that’s a full-on committed relationship or a situationship that actually works for both people.

╭┉┈ how to escape (or survive) a queer situationship:

alright, so now we know why queer situationships happen. but what if you’re in one and you’re tired of the constant confusion? maybe you want more, maybe you want less, or maybe you just want to stop overthinking every interaction. whatever the case, here’s how to either escape the mess or survive it without losing your mind.

figure out what you actually want

do you want a relationship, or are you okay with the undefined chaos?

are you emotionally attached, or are you just vibing?

is this situation actually fulfilling, or are you just scared to let go?

before doing anything, ask yourself: what do i actually want?

if you do want a relationship, are you okay with waiting for the other person to be ready, or is that just gonna hurt you more?

if you don’t want a relationship, is the situationship actually healthy, or are you just avoiding commitment?

are you staying because you genuinely like this dynamic, or because you’re scared of being alone?

self-awareness is key. once you know what you want, you’ll know what your next step should be.

communicate (yes, even if it’s scary)

"so… what are we?" is a terrifying question, but necessary.

avoiding the talk = prolonging the mess.

be direct. like, painfully clear.

if you’re in a situationship, you need to talk about it—even if your brain is screaming "let’s just ignore this forever."

you don’t need a dramatic intervention, just a simple "hey, i just want to understand where we stand."

avoid vague questions like "what are we doing?" because that can be dodged. instead, try "do you see this as something serious or casual?"

if you’re scared they’ll get weird or distant after the convo, well… that’s kinda the point. better to know now than waste more time.

and remember: if someone refuses to have this conversation, that’s your answer.

set boundaries (because your feelings matter)

define what you are okay with.

don’t let the other person’s indecision dictate your self-worth.

if it feels like it’s draining you, it’s not worth it.

if you realize you’re unhappy, set some damn boundaries.

if you’re tired of the mixed signals, tell them you need clarity or you’re walking away.

if they only hit you up when they’re bored, make it clear you’re not just their emotional support system.

if they keep treating you like a partner but won’t say you’re one, stop letting them get away with it.

boundaries aren’t ultimatums—they’re self-respect.

accept their answer (even if it’s not what you wanted)

if they say they don’t want a relationship, believe them.

if they’re avoiding commitment, they’re choosing to.

don’t waste energy trying to "convince" them to want more.

sometimes, the hardest part isn’t the conversation—it’s accepting the outcome.

if they say they "aren’t ready for a relationship" but keep treating you like you’re dating, they’re ready for something, just not with you.

if they say "i don’t like labels," cool, but that doesn’t mean you have to be okay with it.

if they just keep stringing you along, that’s an answer too.

it sucks, but trust me— walking away from someone who won’t choose you is better than waiting for them to change.

if you stay, make sure it’s on your terms

does this situationship actually work for you?

are you getting what you need, or just what they’re willing to give?

if the dynamic changes, will you be okay with that?

not every situationship needs to end— some actually work if both people are okay with the setup.

if you’re genuinely fine with keeping things casual, make sure it’s because you want it, not because you feel stuck.

if your feelings change, be honest about it.

if it ever stops being fun, leave. simple.

the only rule? don’t settle for less than what you deserve.

remember you are not "too much" for wanting clarity

it’s not "dramatic" to want to know where you stand.

you deserve respect, whether it’s a relationship or not.

if they make you feel like you’re asking for too much, that’s a them problem.

queer people are often made to feel like they should be grateful for any form of love or attention, even if it’s half-hearted or inconsistent. but let’s be real:

you deserve someone who actually respects your time and emotions.

you’re allowed to want commitment, or clarity, or literally anything that makes you feel secure.

if someone makes you feel like your needs are a burden, they’re just proving they aren’t the right person for you.

tl;dr: know your worth, communicate, and don’t settle for bs

if you want more, ask for it. if they can’t give it, move on.

if you’re happy with the way things are, just make sure it’s actually what you want.

if you feel like you’re stuck in an emotional limbo, you probably are. get out.

whether you end the situationship, define it, or just learn from it, the goal is the same: you deserve relationships that make you feel secure, not ones that leave you constantly questioning where you stand.

╭┉┈ final thoughts: the real enemy is confusion, uncertainity

so, after all this, what’s the takeaway? are situationships evil? should queer people just delete dating apps, move to the woods, and never interact again? not exactly.

situationships aren’t bad. sometimes, they can be fun, low-pressure, and exactly what both people need. but when they’re built on avoidance, mixed signals, and unspoken expectations, they can become draining as hell.

the key isn’t to avoid situationships entirely— it’s to make sure that whatever dynamic you’re in, it’s one that actually works for you.

the queer dating reality check

queer dating is already complicated because society doesn’t give us the same relationship blueprints.

many of us carry baggage from growing up in environments that made us question our own worth.

because of this, many queer people settle for just enough love instead of what they actually want.

but here’s the truth: you are not "hard to love." you are not asking for too much. and you are not obligated to stay in a dynamic that makes you feel small.

situationship survival 101

whether you’re getting into one, stuck in one, or trying to move on from one, here’s what matters:

- know your own needs and boundaries.

- communicate (seriously, no more avoiding it).

- don’t accept less than what makes you feel valued.

- if you’re happy, cool. if you’re not, change something.

if a situationship works for you? great.

if it’s making you anxious and confused? you don’t have to stay in it.

at the end of the day, queer people deserve relationships that make them feel safe, wanted, and chosen— whether that’s a committed relationship, a casual situationship, or something in between.

you don’t need to settle for "almost love." you deserve the real thing.

[pictures are from pinterest]

[yanderefreud]

also i want you to rank the multiversal stevetonies: 1872, 616, ults, mcu, and any others you want to include ✨

OOOOO BOY. Okay

So number one is extremely unsurprisingly going to be 616. They're the ogs and absolutely no one does it like them. The slow burn, the extremely unresolved homoeroticism, and the angst (the ANGST!!!!!),, all of that is just unparalleled. None can compete with that much lore and all those moments of them just saying sappy gay shit like "you gave me a home" or "i'm not half as good at anything as i am when i'm doing it next to you", or absolutely heart-wrenching things like "it wasn't worth it" or "he loved you, and he admired you, even when you fought"

After some deliberation with my own self I have decided that 1610 (Marvel Ultimates) is my second favourite. I just love the dynamic A LOT. Imagine you're this repressed homosexual man who was transported a billion years into the future and you fall in love with the most obnoxious man ever and then you find out he's dying. The struggle of reconciling with your own self and then trying to pursue something with someone who might as well be dead. There are just so many possibilities

MCU is going to be a respectable third. I have a lot of fondness for it because it is what introduced me to stevetony (when I first saw the helicarrier scene all I remember was thinking "these guys have sexual tension and I want to be there when they resolve it"). One complaint I have is the initial hostility that they had, because I think A LOT of people got hung up on that lmao. I don't really watch marvel movies anymore, not even old ones bc they just make me sad :-(. Still, they have some absolutely incredible moments like "i'm home" or "do you trust me" "i do" and "i thought you and Tony were still gazing into each other's eyes (thanks natasha)"

1872... Oh 1872. I have a lot of feelings and not enough Canon content, and that's the only reason why it's so low on the list. I love how Steve was literally the CATALYST for Tony becoming Iron man like. That is so sick omg... He was so grief-stricken that he literally went mad. I also fucking love their interactions "I think you pulled enough corks for today, Stark. It ain't even noon" "oh why hello there sherif. I guess you have nothing better to do than infringe on my constitutionally guaranteed right to pursue happiness (can't argue w that ngl)"

Avengers Assemble!! I actually fucking love them ngl but the reason why they're number five is that there isn't enough angst. Where is the bloodshed and death and tears????? I need to see grown men crying and screaming in agony thanks. Other than that, I love their dynamic and how fucking domestic they are. They are so married they're making my parents look single omg like GET A ROOM GUYS. My favourite thing that Steve ever said in that show was "iron or not, you're still the man" hell yeah boy get that dick

Marvel's avengers 2020 (the video game!!). God. I did not play it myself but I have seen Stevetony scenes and they are so SICK. Tony being so fucking DEVASTATED at Steve's death is really entertaining and makes me very happy. He should continue being sad hehe >:-))

Other than that, I haven't seen any other universes w them in it. There's EMH, and I'm planning to watch it eventually (I'll let you know what I think!) and as for 3490, I think that needs a separate post in itself. I hope this answered your question hehe ty <33333

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Unlocked Recap

Everything I'm saying is accurate you can trust me bro

Sophie's registry file misgenders them :(

Being mad about the series' portrayal of trichotillomania, part 420

The council is either deliberately misunderstanding the Moonlark Project so as to not acknowledge they suck, or Shannon forgot her own character's motives. Hoping for the former.

Bronte listens to Foxfire gossip. Does he walk up to students and demand they spill the tea? What happens here? Shannon what?

Let Elwin punch Bronte 2k22

Elwin Does Not have time for alloromantic bullshit.

Transmasc Fitz rights

Biana has an ✨exceptional accent✨ hoot hoot

"when it comes to emulating Biana's style, the most important element is staying true to who you are" queer coded Biana confirmed?

Queer coded Dizznees have been confirmed from the beginning but always nice to see more of it.

Tiergan and Prentice got majorly sappho and her friend-ed by the Council.

Marella registered for the match, what's up with that?

Horses are only for girls now. But the Lost Cities don't have gender roles.

RUMOR HAS IT THAT MARELLA AND LINH DO ADDITIONAL TRAINING TOGETHER

Little Miss Perfect Della propaganda- unlikely the Matchmakers are good enough for the number one match to work out perfectly, she chose Alden for the image.

Marella has a stuffed kelpie named Sir Splashyhugs pass it on.

Exillium is a neurodivergent metaphor.

Elwin's nonbinary, it's canon now.

Sophie knows about the stallion. She just tries very hard not to think about it, which is fair.

Sophie's accusation that Tiergan lied to her is unfair. He shared way more than he was probably supposed to and when he did lie by omission he did so very badly.

Moral ambiguity!! :D

Oralie is arospec, it's also canon.

The FANCY VACKER ACCENT HOOT HOOT

Keefe hates the idea of making the matchmakers happy, sounds perfectly straight to me.

Fitz has unresolved feelings for Keefe and Keefe is like "hmm I'm wondering who all that romantic tension is meant for." Figure it out dumbass

We will never have enough of Sophie calling Edaline "Mom"

Similarly, we will never have enough of Dadwin.

Ro's still a bitch, but now she's a queer coded bitch.

Keefe got to flip Ro off! Slay.

Biana runs laps every morning hmmgngggjdlkf I am gay

Solreef family angst potential regarding Glimmer + Wylie kidnapped by Neverseen ???

Glimmer and Biana were definitely flirting with one another.

Tiergan has officially joined Grady in the protective anxious father squad <3

I think Keefe and Grady should bond over having a power that allows them to manipulate others and makes them fear themselves. As a treat.

[wenellyb]

Hi!!! First of all: I adore your content! You're a primary reason as to why I love the sambucky fandom so much.✨💛✨ I saw this video essay on two characters from the fast and furious franchise that are queer coded and much of the subtext shares similarities with subtext in tfatws! I wanted to share it with you and hear your opinions on it, especially considering the film is heavily action based and shares a buddy cop dynamic almost. https://youtu.be/l2PqynUel2E 💛 (Warning: slight discussions of nsfw themes)

Hi!!!! Oh noooo, Thank you so much for saying you like my content, it's so nice of you I'm so touched and you have no idea how much words like these mean to me💛💛💛!

Ok let's do this!

So, first of all, I apologize for taking this long to reply, I needed to find some time to watch the video first.

Here’s the link:

I really liked the video because it was well-explained and even someone who hasn't seen the movie or has forgotten it can understand the plot, and the conclusion was good too! Someone should defintely do a similar video for Sambucky!

I have seen the first Fast & Furious movie but there are so many movies in the franchise that after that I don't remember which one I saw or not, and even though I did I don't even remember the plot. So I'm not sure I ever saw this one, but if I did I don't even remember it.

All I know is that I never got any vibes of their being more than a platonic relationship between the lead characters in any of the movies I saw. That's the reason why I'm always confused by the "why can't men just be friends for once", because what do you mean for once? It's all there ever is. It's like "Why does everything have to be gay"?? Hmm last time I checked there hasn't been any lead LGBT character in any major Blockbuster movie so,... Anyway I'm derailing. What I meant was, to me, the relationship betweent the leads in the Fast and Furioius movies has always been platonic friendship.

But this video did made me change my mind a bit about these two.

So what I'll do is that I'll compare it with Sambucky and what's similar or different between their relationship and Brian (Paul Walker) and Roman (my high school sweetheart Tyrese).

In the video I see several parrallels to Sam and Bucky's story, the buddy cop dynamic, the animosity and angst over some shared history and resolved issues, then coming to terms with their issues and let me tell you the tension between the 2 characters.

And excuse me but that fighting scene:

I don’t watch a lot of fights but do guys really fight like that because, mark me down as interested to see more.

I don’t know about real life, but in movies, the fight usually aren’t this... hmm how to say this? Intense?

Similarities with Sambucky:

- Exes vibes: When we meet the two characters, they’re hostile towards each other, and even beging a fight, where they end up on top of each other, does that ring any bells? Roman is mad at Brian because he blames him for ending up in prison, and you can tell from their interactions that there are a lot of unresolved history between the 2 of them.

- Jealousy: The way Roman gets jealous at another woman talking to Brian, definitely reminds me of Bucky’s animosity towards Sharon when she compliments Sam’s suit.

- The villain: Acting as if he catches the romantic relationship between the main characters.

- Heart to heart talk: The two characters have a heart to heart talk about whatever feud they had going on, and Roman has been blaming Brian for how he ended up in prison, and finally, during a heart to heart talk, they both end up opening up to each other and explaining what went wrong. We even get a “It wasn’t your fault”, like in the FATWS.

- Sunset scene: Their heart to heart talk conviently happens during a sunset 

All of this to say that the Youtuber makes some great points, and I can really understand why he sees the relationship between Brian and Roman as romantic, and he sees is as the relationship between 2 exes even if they don't end up together.

Differences with Sambucky:

The Love Interest: 

One of the differences I see between the two, is that Brian has an official female love interest and they even kiss, whereas there is no kiss scene in TFATWS. 

And although Bucky has a potential love interest in Sarah, Sam has absolutely no love interest throughout the show, except Bucky. His relationship with Sharon, seems platonic for now ( it might change in the future), but they didn’t hint at any kind of romance or flirting between the two. And I would even say that if you look at the definition of a love interest, Bucky ticks all the boxes in episode 5 and in episode 6.

In this story, Brian ends up with the love interest (Eva Mendes), so Roman and Brian stay at the status of exes, who have resolved their issues and are able to stay friends and move on. The Youtuber’s interpretetion of how we have two bisexual characters who are indeed exes, because the subtext also indicates to some tension between the two characters and also some heavy history between the two of them.

The subtext:

In my opinion, there is harldly any subtext in TFATWS, the scenes are there, it’s text, not interpretation, or ambiguous, but something we see onscreen.

To me, the only reason people see the text in TFATWS as subtext is because Sam and Bucky are two men and not a man and a woman.

The reason I’m saying this is because:

- The moment we meet them together, they have animosity towards each other, but you can also tell that the have some shared history, which is confirmed when Bucky’s therapist says that Bucky hasn’t been replying to Sam’s text, that she has hurt a lot about Sam, doesn’t seem surprised to see Sam, and upon seeing Sam, the therapist says that even though it’s unprofessionnal the only way to solve Bucky’s issue is to put them in couples’ therapy together. 

She even says during the therapy session: This is an exercise for couples, who want to know what kind of life they want to build together. 

Where is the “sub” in that? it’s text. 

- “You broke the law, for me, I’m asking you to do it again”. Regardless of the fact that this wasn’t how it happened in CACW. This is a typical romantic line in action movies. If Sam or Bucky were a woman, the romantic nature of that line.

And if we take the line as true, like we’re supposed to, it means that somehow Bucky thinks that all the things Sam did in Civil War were for him.

- I don’t want to make it weird with your family: Another line usually used in romantic comedies.

- The whole set up of one character going to the other character’s hometown==>romantic.

-The boat scene. That scene to me isn’t subtext, you do not put a scene of two characters just looking at each other like that, and then add romantic soft music, and choose that lighting, accidentally. 

- The ending scene, with them looking at each other and then walking away holding each other.

It’s NOT subtext, it’s just that they didn’t kiss at the end, but not all romantic stories include a kiss (There are several Avengers solo movies where there isn’t a kiss between the love interests, Peter Gamora, WandaVision in CACW, Tony Pepper).

At this point, it is easier to read Sam and Bucky as exes who worked out their stuff and became friends again. Maybe they are not a couple and not together, but the romantic nature of their relationship is obvious to me.

There is no universe in which people would watch the exact same scenes between Sam and Bucky and say that they were platonic if one of them were a woman.

I would have to (re-)watch the Fast and Furious movie to be sure, but from the video, I agree with the reading of the Youtuber and his conclusion: exes who became friends. But in my opinion, it is not as obvious as with Sambucky.

[faggot-friday]

Results from the KotLC Ship Quiz Thing (part two of two)

(thanks again to everyone who did it!)

These questions are all opinions on specific ships

Question 10: Qualden "wdym theyre not gay theyre just cognates/j superior ship" "Could work" "100% cannon , their dynamic is hilarious [especially all the stuff the fandom comes up with]" "Eh" "lowkey love it but also dellaxalden" "Absolutely stunning" "exes that have some unresolved ✨tension✨" "Canon. Absolutely canon. Kind of a crackship but occasionally gives me feelings." "Hilarious and very fun" "No thx lol" "I like their relationship and the idea of them healing their bond together after Prentice's memory breaks" "Not sure how I feel about Alden as a character, but their relationship would be cute"

Question 11: Delivvy "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES" (it continued like this for a very long time) "OMIGOSH, THEY'RE SO CUTE!!!1" "some of my favourite lesbians" "Cool, but wh" "yess but I feel like I like dxa to much" "Incredible and perfect" "girlfriends idc" "I LOVE THEM SO MUCH HOLY SHIT" "Cute!!!! There's room for angst and fluff and just jsjdhdbdjsvsv" "Nah" "I think it would be cool, like how they might've met mutually through their husbands and hit it off" "LOVE IT. that's all <3"

Question 12: Marellinh "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES" (again lol) "YESSSSSSSS" "they're adorable i ship them" "Eh" "gilrbosxgirlboss" "Will sacrafice a rat for it to be canon" "one of my favorite ships" "opposites attract, and I really like the dynamic where they both know what it's like to be afraid of their own power you know??" "SUN AND MOON, FIRE AND WATER, HOT AND COLD, BLUE AND RED(or.. orange??) THE BEST DYNAMIC" "Nuh uh" "I love this ship and opposites attract!" "oui"

Question 13: Tiertice "YES YES YES YES YES" (etc.) "FUCK YEAH!!!!" "very cannon , much gay" "Love that for the shippers but I don't think about it that much" "never thought about it but vibez" "Lovely ship. Used to think it was canon" "yes" "THEY'RE MY TRAGIC GAYS 🧡 Anyway they have so much angst potential, so much canon basis, so many feelings! They care about each other so much ahhhhhh-" "Yes yes yes yes knsbsdjwjebbd actually maybe. Polycule with cyra, because yes wylie you can have THREE parents (that.. turned into just 1 aftwr a while nsbdbdb)" (why did you have to add that last bit) "Nope" "I love this ship as well!!!" "tbf when i first read the series I thought there was smth there...ship it but it makes me sad thinking about the history of it"

Question 14: Starina (this one reverts back to the same format as used in part one) (so the responses are my phrasing but their choosing) (except for the fourth, fifth, and sixth, which were written by the respondents) 61.5% said "there's not much of it in canon but it seems nice" 7.7% said "no. no thank you" 7.7% said "maybe not all three of them TOGETHER, but otherwise it's good" 7.7% said "OOHHHHHHH I've never thought of it but it sounds amazing, will think about it more!" 7.7% said "uuhhh idrc, (as you can see i'm only adamant ab like two ships and then the rest is whatever lol)" 7.7% said "they'd be a badass relationship...the universe should fear them"