#◈No such lightner ◈Deltarune ver◈
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How do you imagine your Grouptale AU Characters as in Deltarune?
Would Harper and Caleb look like teenagers like Kris while Frisk, Minette, Adien, Fin, and Lumen look like pre-teens?
They would be darkeners! Well, everyone except Frisk, who remains a lightner human. They're all based on the flowers in the Asgores shop.
With the exception of the middle one, they look like children since they havent wilted a day since the being cut.
darkworld ver of frisk for funs
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FTF Shorts: Not Even Close!
A vs show where the longer analysis and set up is skipped in order to briefly explain why a certain fight is nowhere near close.
This Week's Fighters....
Xefros Tritoh vs Kris Dreemurr!
Note: Xefros as of Act 2, Kris as of Chapter 2.
I think this fight is a fairly open and shut case, so I'll be brief. This breakdown is less about this specific matchup and more about Hiveswap vs Deltarune as a whole.
The main cast of Deltarune as of Chapter 2 consistently showcase city busting feats. Examples include Lightners being able to create Dark Worlds, pocket realities that can contain entire cities, Spamton NEO being able to warp reality to turn the city in the background into bricks, and Noelle's Snowgrave attack creating a snowstorm, a feat that would require 15 Megatons of TNT.
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On the speed side of things, the Heroes and their friends can consistently dodge electricity traveling through wires, which would be moving at 90% lightspeed.

While this scaling is more than sufficient enough to let Kris take down the likes of Homelander or Alex Mercer, it does not measure up to the power scaling behind Hiveswap.
Xefros, even without his rage amp, is tough enough to take hits from powerful gold bloods, who themselves are strong enough to push spaceships at near light speeds. Depending on the exact velocity, this would generate enough kinetic energy to either destroy all the Earth's continents or enough to obliterate a small planet. Easily billions of times more than anything any character Kris could be compared to has done.
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Speed wise, Xefros conpares to Joey, who can react to seeing Dammek pass by her as she is launched to Alternia across interstellar distances in seconds. This feat, no matter how you look at it, would require Joey to react to an object traveling at exponentially faster than light speeds.
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That might sound ridiculous, but the wider Homestuck universe makes this consistent. While I'd struggle to call Deltarune realistic and grounded, Homestuck runs on a sort of abstract video game logic that allows even ordinary humans to due absurd things. Such as a grown man stuffing his car into his wallet to take it with him to work or a teenage girl leveling up to become strong enough to lift a fridge over her head. Even common Sprites can cross interplanetary distances within seconds. Both verses run on and deconstruct video game logic, but Homestuck in general does so be exaggerating it to illogical degrees.
So, while the Player controlling Kris can reset the fight as many times as they want to try again, the insurmountable stat gap means they'd never get a run where they can win. A classic unwinnable boss fight svenario. Inevitably, they will give up to go do something else.
Of course, all of this only stands while both stories are still on their second chapter. Come back in ten years on the launch date of Chapter 3 and Act 3, and I may very well be telling you why the stomp now goes in the other direction. As it stands though, as these characters currently are, this fight is nowhere near close.
This Throwdown's Winner is....
Xefros Tritoh!
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Starter for @hxzelwallflower )
A red and white blur ran through the streets of Cyber city with neon bright colors following him. If looked at very closely if only for a moment it seems like a rather big group of poppups following him. All of them clamoring for more attention and happy as ever though, he himself was not at all in the same attitude.
Seeing he was going to be outrunned by these darkners, he called out “Sorry! I need to be places I cannot stay anymore!” only responded with a multitude of loud ads. With that he gunned it, ditching his walking entirely to quickly burst into a speedy levitation from the ground.
With this newfound speed he jumped onto the hood of a nearby car then started to leap frog his way to the other side. Of course this drew a slight crowd and cause several jams, but he wasn’t thinking much.
Slamming into the nearest building wall right in front of a citizen trying to play it casual regardless of his current wreck of a look.
Forearm resting on the brick wall besides him with his other hand on his hip. “Hello ma’am, so sorry to bother you can you act like you know me for a moment?” he asked in a hushed tone but didn’t exactly wait for an answer from her. Ignoring the sounds of the chaos behind him completely almost, only giving a little wince at the honking of horns.
“OH, I’m so glad I got here in time! I thought I was going to be late for our little get together but wouldn’t you know!” he exclaimed though still out of breath.
“So how’s your life been? I know it’s been a while since we’ve seen each other last.”
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i have a bonkers fuckin theory about deltarune and that is like. nobody said that all that talk about "the knight" is necessarily inherently The Same Knight like whos to say the knights that the different dark worlds speak of arent different people. Theyve only been in One dark world so they wouldnt know of any different knights anyway.
Thats not even the bonkers part of my theory, right. You know how many chapters there are in deltarune? Seven. ( = 7 different dark worlds). you know what else theres seven of? thats right.
It doesn't necessarily have to be the same people (or like alternate universe ver of the same people) since it seems different characters can have the same color soul (chara and frisk for example). And kris has a red soul so they don't have to necessairly be chara or frisk.
THAT BEING SAID. the red soul PROBABLY ISNT KRIS' SOUL! maybe one could SPECULATE that kris originally had a DIFFERENT colored soul. especially since save points in deltarune no longer mention "determination".
in fact i think kris could maybe be the light blue soul! this is a huge stretch especially since theres no mentions of patience in deltarune. HOWEVER. consider: toy knives, faded ribbon (theres ribbons in deltarune), attacks with spinning knives, AND. kris is light blue in dark worlds.
so whos to say the dark worlds werent opened by the other fallen children, who are all the different knights of those worlds. since its implied in dt ch2 that any lightner can be a knight with enough Determination. (AND its implied in undertale that only HUMANS can possess determination. this maybe isnt true in deltarune BUT STILL)
anyway. this is kind of 3 theories in 1. id be happy if i get just one of these outlandish theories right.
#I know its most likely kris is just an alt ver of chara but ykno#thats no fun. i wanna think outside the box#anyway. sorry for my minecraft youtuber followers but i am deltaruneposting at the moment .Bear With Me#deltarune#undertale#kris deltarune#obvious counterpoint is also that kris seems to be the only human around in their hometown#and im assuming dark worlds appear where they are 'created'. and if there arent 6 other human kids in the hometown that we havent seen yet#my theory isnt very likely haha
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Corrupt wakes from @dreamingyou
Corrupt laid there on the grassy hill outside his place of stay in town, eyes fluttering as he could barely keep awake. It was one of those quiet nights, the type that didn’t feel real with how calming it was. With these moments after being awake, moving, meeting, greeting, repeating he always yearned after a while to rest. He knew he didn’t need it, he could function for days, weeks, months, years without having an ounce of it.
Those were the perks of being a higher being after all, you didn’t have to worry about those mortal dependencies on sleeping or eating. But, there was an allure to the concept of sleeping that always comforted him. To let your mind drift to nothingness, to not be busy with thoughts within a devils workshop...
Darkness slowly filled his vision as what could be called “unconsciousness” took him gently.
Visions came and went, catching onto a blurred color of blues and whites dazzling in the moonlight. Hopping around in a haze, vague implications of streets, homes, buildings, cities... Each movement seeming weightless yet traveling so far, time melting into an abstract concept.
Excitement fluttered within as they drew near to somewhere, something.
Then within a moment he felt himself ripped from a DEEP, DEEP, sleep. Barely alert he slowly picked himself up from the ground. He rubbed his eyes, only to look up to see the moon hanging in the air still. Corrupt put his hand on his chest trying to calm his heart beat, he didn’t know why but the words “Are you there?” softly came from his mouth.
The bright yellow of his eyes dulling to void “why did I say that, Dear E I already talk enough to ghosts. Now I’m talking to the wind?” his grip on his chest tightened ever so slightly before giving an exasperated sigh.
#◈No such lightner ◈Deltarune ver◈#hello!!hello!!#old beings unbound by time and space meeting?more likely than you think!
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❝ Salut mon ami ! ❞ The familiar chime of her accent delivers her presence , appendages fluttering as the angel casually greets him . She spotted the other exiting the local tea shop and figured it'd be a good time to visit .
Tea, one thing he always had a soft spot for.
Never could he deny a good cup of tea nor could he go without at least perusing for some from the worlds he would have visited in the past. Those days were gone, but he was in luck to see a tea store around the block that he had overlooked before, taking the immediate turn from his routine to look over it.
So hard to choose one thing to buy when he had so many options, and yet he settled on one regardless. A black tea or at least from what he could tell...the labeling of the product escaped him. Payment of such a product also escaped him as well. He had no dark dollars on him from the lack of well, a job and anything to give of monetary value.
The ex guardian observed his surrounding before spotting a camera, giving a soft curse under his breath. No matter the nudging from the apparition. "it'd be so easy to take a tin." It would say to him "What? Are you going to be a coward?" Corrupt ignored the copy as he pushed his way out of the little shop. "I'm not going to get trouble for a tin of tea, you may think it's worth it, but I do--"
❝ Salut mon ami ! ❞
Corrupt froze completely, a double vision effect behind him as the apparition was only slightly out of step with Corrupt. "Would you look at that timing~" it commented with a small chuckle before vanishing from view.
Corrupt scrambling to regain his composure, putting on a smile. "Oh,Eileen! I didn't expect to run into you again...or well you running into me this time! "
#I am small and have no money so you could imagine the stress I am under#hxzelwallflower#◈no such lightner ◈deltarune ver◈
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