#▲ WHEN EVERYTHING HAS SETTLED (verse: post botw)
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ok after going straight to ganondorf with no temples or anything like an insane person & beating this game the wrong way via boss rush & somehow succeeding ... i HAVE now actually gone & played the game like you’re supposed to & collected all the dragon tear memories. here’s a lot of my thoughts on the matter of this game within the timeline & how i will be choosing to weave it into things. everything under read more will contain major storyline spoilers for tot/k.
i will note i do not have any temples still. my adventure log still has some missing memories that i assume i’ll gather about as i continue with the main storyline with all that but i have, at least, gotten all the ones from like the base dragon tear quest that you begin with impa. so, we’ll be focusing on those. fair warning this is going to be so very long but i’ll put a tl;dr at the end.
to start off, i do not believe these games take place in the DOWNFALL TIMELINE. so that one i’m simply wiping off the board i’m ngl. i’m not saying it’s impossible ... but the other timelines seem more probable in my opinion.
i’ve seen & discussed with some people how botw/totk could both take place in the ADULT TIMELINE as an extremely distant future & that sonia & rauru are the first king & queen of NEW hyrule making sonia a descendant of tetra. however! while it’s far from impossible, & i could go with this, i have more or less settled on the idea that link & tetra founded new hyrule themselves & that tetra was the founding queen of that. for sure, it was a slow build but i do imagine that, despite the fact that new hyrule wouldn’t be an established land at first, they found it with the intent of establishing a kingdom. even if it was it’s very beginnings & start, new hyrule was founded as a kingdom & tetra it’s founding queen. mostly the backing i’ve seen folk put on this one is the existence of the rito, even in the “ancient” time shown in the game. but, to be fair, the zora & their monarchy also exist there because they really didn’t fact check a single thing in the timeline before making these games. you could say that, possibly, there was a zora tribe that did not evolve into rito post the great flood & that they simply were established elsewhere & were found in the search for new hyrule. the ocean is big, who’s to say. all in all, THIS THEORY IS VERY PLAUSABLE! so we’ll bookmark it but it wasn’t my first instinct on where to place everything.
personally, when i was playing i chose to see botw as taking place distantly in the future of the CHILD TIMELINE & then the ancient times seen in totk to be the original founding era of the hyrule monarchy. this is what i’m going to go for as my default as where to set these verses & for many reasons which i’ll go into detail about.
while sksw link & zelda did settle on the surface & more or less begin to found hyrule, i can’t say the plan for a kingdom was what they were aiming for. the folk of skyloft did not have a monarchy & likely had little solid concept of how it functioned. i’m sure they knew what a kingdom was from old legends & stories that may have been passed down overtime but that’s about it. after all they fought demise who was a demon KING so they, at least, know what a king is. as well as LORD ghirahim. but they themselves do not & have never operated as a monarchy nor do i think they’d know how to start one. or that they’d want to. when link & zelda settle on the surface post sksw that’s all they’re doing. settling. it is the beginning of the world healing from it’s initial reign of monsters & the start of hylians inhabiting the land once more. as this settlement grows with time, however, as does the need for some sort of organization of society thus, somewhere down the line, the kingdom of hyrule begins its establishment.
sonia predates the tradition of the hyrule royal family passing on the name zelda to their princesses but i do believe she is techincally the next incarnation down the line & the first incarnation post sksw zelda. she’s undoubtably a descendant of sksw zelda. her connection to the bloodline of the goddess made her revered in many ways, granted her some abilities such as her control over time, & had her as a clear choice for the first queen of this new kingdom. however i do wonder if she already had a child somewhere that we never see or even a sibling to survive her? only because it’s clearly stated that botw zelda is a descendant of her’s .... however she is also murdered in front of our eyes so like. there has to be some other form of her bloodline somewhere. but anyway. moving on.
the zonai were a race that kept very secluded. it’s possible they were known to skyloftians even prior to return to the surface & that they also existed within the sky but were rarely seen & viewed as divine beings even then or that they were found among the surviving surface races after skyloftian settled on the surface & as time went on took establishment on the islands left behind by the hylians in the sky. either way, they were recognized for their secretive ways & their singular power. hylians did eventually view them as some sort of divine race.
i like the idea that the zonai have some sort of connection to the creation of the twilight realm / the twili. one thought being that zonai were a large part of the dark interlopers that were banished to the twilight realm prior to the founding of hyrule kingdom which could be why rauru & mineru are noted to be one of the only few remaining of their race OR ... since it’s stated, at least on the wiki about them, that the dark interlopers were hylians then perhaps the zonai were hunted down by the dark interlopers who craved their power & secret stones. the stones are what gave the interlopers their initial power that they tried to seek the triforce with &, after their banishment, these secret stones they had stolen were what became things such as the fused shadows in the twilight realm.
i think, if the dark interlopers were hylians that did this, it left the zonai very damaged & untrusting of the hylians. rauru & mineru were two of the very few that openly interacted with hylians still while most others were only driven further into secrecy & hiding until the race died out entirely. i imagine sonia & rauru’s time to be at least a few hundred years after the whole twilight realm banishment thing, too. so the zonai are all but extinct by their time.
if you’re going to point out that the fact that the rito exist in these ancient times i KNOW that messes so much up and i want to attack and bite nintendo for how little sense it makes to things. but you know what, who knows. maybe the rito did exist way back when and then like. sort of disappeared / died out for sometime & then returned. it’s possible the zora & rito were a related race still as well at their start & both had the same originating race that split off. rito took off to seas & abandoned the main land of hyrule for many years only to return sometime between the events of twilight princess & breath of the wild as that does expand THOUSANDS of years. in the adult timeline the zora began to evolve towards their feathered cousins due to the flood as that type of environment will cause that. & that’s just what i have to imagine to make things fall into place.
the ganondorf we see in totk is what i imagine to be the first reincarnation of demise’s hatred. he is the first to threaten the land so severely since demise. his connection to demise is why taking sonia’s secret stone grants him such immense power. once he is held under the kingdom his body is considered dormant & unusable & years down the line demise’s hatred attempts to break forth in the form of a calamity which is stated to be a form of his that has “given up on reincarnation” but is stopped by next princess zelda & incarnation of the hero. after being sealed the calimity attempts to return via reincarnation ( resulting in like. oot ganondorf & vaati ) ignoring the body trapped under hyrule since rauru’s power still held it. the fact that demise’s incarnation ignored that body for so long is what allowed it to fall into decay but the power of the secret stone he stole is what also kept it somewhat alive in that time. after oot ganondorf is finally killed in tp, the hatred of demise once again begins to give up on reincarnation & instead revives again as a calamity. when that calamity is sealed a second time it lines with a time where rauru’s power holding his first reincarnation’s body is finally withering. when zelda & link discover the body & disturb it’s place, it allows that power to resurge & that incarnation is reconnected with that form once more.
ALSO i’d like to add that the fact that there IS an incarnation of demise within this ancient time we see & possibly an incarnation of hylia/zelda with sonia then, theoretically, there should also be an incarnation of the hero’s spirit/link. however, we do not see this incarnation and i believe this is because this incarnation of the hero failed. he died. if zelda did not travel back in time then the fight against ganondorf would be a lost cause. in wake of the failure of this hero, zelda displaced in time became the hero in his place for sonia & rauru’s time.
now this has all mainly focused on why i believe the ancient times we see in the game is where it�� is however there are reasons i think botw takes place specifically in the child timeline as well. big reasons are the fact that zelda directly references the realm of twilight within a speech she makes in botw (”whether skyward bound, adrift in time, or steeped in the glowing embers of twillight...”) & yes i’m also pretty sure she makes mention of “the great sea” in the same speech but i feel like it’s possible for that to be somewhat more vaguely read then the twilight bit? she also mentions oot though & the child timeline is famously known for the fact that oot link’s actions are relatively unknown to the world causing him to die unrecognized & feeling as though he had no way to pass along his legacy. but he did pass this legacy on to tp link. maybe, long after his death, legends resurfaced from tp link about legends of the hero before him who was lost in time. at any rate, botw is clearly far more in touch with a lot of history in it’s time. big shout out to that time’s archeology department.
another reason is a silly one but i love the fact that developers had the wolf link amiibo summon wolf link himself rather than just give you little objects. i love the implications. i’m sure they meant almost nothing by it but i like the idea of tp link finding a way to help his successor just as he knows oot link helped him. it’s comforting to me.
other small reasons are that i like the fact that you can find the sunken ruins of the arbiter's grounds in botw. plus a strange monument on the coast near lurelin village that looks suspiciously like a monument to the mirror of twilight. these are little things & it can be pointed out that there’s also places named after notable people/places in the adult timeline but these two things resonated with me a lot personally.
maybe i’m just a child timeline enthusiast at heart, after all twilight princess holds a very special place in my heart & is my favorite game, but i like the idea of the timeline following this flow the best. this will be what i imagine for my main botw/totk verses but might have AUs of the games existing in the adult timeline as well since there’s no canon placement of them anyway.
TL;DR: for how i portray totk/botw, the ancient times we see in totk take place some odd thousands of years post sksw & pre minish cap, during the initial founding of the first kingdom of hyrule. i believe sonia to be a descendant of sksw zelda & possibly technically the first reincarnation of hylia/zelda since sksw. i believe the zonai to have some sort of connection to the dark interlopers that were banished to the twilight realm, most likely that they were hunted by these greedy hylians for their power & afterwards went into hiding out of fear despite the banishment of these hylians & that this eventually led to their extinction. i believe that botw & the present day presented in totk then takes place within the child timeline & that botw link is the successor of the hero we see in twilight princess.
i also have seen many good cases for botw/totk to, both ancient times & present day, be an extremely distant future of new hyrule in the adult timeline & may include an au verse where this is the case but it will not be my main verse.
#this is LONG just a warning#i just sarted babbling#but! anyway. catch me out in the trenches when it comes to attempting to piece together the loz timeline#if nintendo wont do it then SOMEONE has to#i WILL make this lore cohesive on god#˚ ⋯ △ i. legend of link / ooc .#totk spoilers#˚ ⋯ △ i. according to legend / headcanons .
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VERSES: Gray
and yes, all Grays tags Do come from Frozen, sorry not sorry
❰ ❄ ― verse.01. gray. ❱
Post-war (typically at least a few months after it, but can be immediately after depending on plotting): He thought he’d been doing okay with everything. Finally felt a little settled, even getting his head around Fairy Tail suddenly being back. But then the war…the war truly was like nothing else he’d ever faced. He nearly died. His close friends and many others nearly died (some did die) and he almost became consumed by his demonic magic in a killing rage. It left him shaken. He’s not yet ready to try returning to how things were, he’s not sure if it’s even possible. He’s not sure he trusts himself around anyone either. And so he has decided to take leave of Fairy Tail, and will only consider returning and having his guildmark once more if he’s finally sure of himself and his own path (he may even decide against returning to the guild-mage life). For now, he’s got a base in the northern Fiorean mountains but he makes trips in all directions for weeks at a time, helping with the rebuilding efforts where he can. He doesn’t like to stay anywhere around people for too long, as part of him feels he brings destruction and misfortune wherever he goes, it’s why he’s hesitating to return to the place he really wants to go - his hometown.
❰ ❄ ― verse.02. gray. ❱
Anytime Post Avatar/Pre-war/War (can also include if he Stayed in FT post war): Like many, he was left shaken after the events of Tartaros, but unlike the others, he also had to learn how to handle the incredibly powerful demon slaying magic given to him. He disappeared to the mountains to try and cope with everything and get a handle on the new magic. But hearing of Fairy Tail’s disbandment threw him off further and caused a spike in the demonic magic, dark markings appearing across his body. He had to seek help from Porlyusica. It was around that time that he ran into Erza and they argued about Fairy Tail. She managed to ease away some of his bitterness with a Nakama Power™ speech and they ended up teaming up for the Avatar job (Gray did not abandon Juvia without a word btw). After the ordeal with Avatar came to an end, and he got through the trials (because he was arrested and screened heavily for his involvement, regardless of what his intentions had been). He rejoined Fairy Tail for the revival. They rescued Makarov from Alvarez and have the threat of war looming over them.
❰ ❄ ― verse.03. gray. ❱
Avatar: Gray is posing as a member of Avatar and walks along the edge of darkness and madness for it. He has to do whatever it takes to maintain his position and learn whatever he can. Due to consistent use of his demon slaying magic to keep up appearances, the dark ice is at times fracturing his sanity and beginning to encase his heart. This verse can also include him becoming completely Evil™ and losing himself to the demon magic at any point in the future timeline.
❰ ❄ ― verse.04. gray. ❱
Post-Avatar, Gray does not return for the Fairy Tail revival, instead continues to team up with Crime Sorciere, as his goal is to defeat E.N.D and Zeref and it aligns with theirs. This verse can also include Gray not being involved with Avatar at all and simply joining CS during the disbandment year in general. Either case, this connection to them, along with his demonic mage and the danger it presents, pulls him into a similar situation to the CS members with their conditional pardons/probations where he is put under the supervision of Yukino.
❰ ❄ ― au. botw. gray. ❱
This verse can probably be tweaked to work for most fantasy/medieval settings but is mostly made with the BotW game in mind. Anyone who lived in the harsh, cold lands of the Hebra region had to be hardworkers, survivors. Gray was no exception, especially not after the death of his family at the hands of a horde of monsters when he was young. Left on his own, he eventually picked up the tools his blacksmith father had left behind and began to work the trade. As an adult now, and highly skilled in his craft, he sells (or sometimes trades) the weapons and armour he makes. When he’s not forging or selling, he’s out exploring and fighting monsters, looking for new materials and for a way to be rid of monsters for good. While typically a lone wolf, he has formed a party with certain people at times in order to have the best chance at exploring particular areas. He has a horse named Snowfall and a dog called Blizzard.
❰ ❄ ― au. pokemon. gray. ❱
A trainer specializing in the training of ice types, he originates from a village near Snowpoint City, Sinnoh. When he was young, his hometown was destroyed by a rampaging pokemon, (but no, his family actually survives in this verse), believed to be the legendary Palkia, and it was that day that he swore revenge. After learning about pokemon and battling from a specialist, he set out on his journey to continue learning and training, always working towards the goal of defeating Palkia. His on hand team consists of Sneasel, Abomasnow, Floatzel, Lucario, Alolan Sandslash, and Alolan Vulpix.
#❰ ❄ ― au. pokemon. gray. ❱#❰ ❄ ― au. botw. gray. ❱#❰ ❄ ― verse.01. gray. ❱#❰ ❄ ― verse.02. gray. ❱#❰ ❄ ― verse.03. gray. ❱#❰ ❄ ― verse.04. gray. ❱
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tag drop! these tags kinda suck but oh well
#▲ A BEACON IN THE DARK (about)#▲ HYRULE’S LIGHT (visage)#▲ A STORY OF COURAGE (ic)#▲ FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK (ask memes)#▲ GO DOWN IN HISTORY (threads)#▲ ONE BUT MANY (self promo)#▲ OUT IN THE WILDS (ooc)#▲ SILENTLY JUDGING (crack)#▲ SOFTLY REPLIED (answered)#▲ STOP AND LISTEN (musings)#▲ TIME AND TIME AGAIN (queue)#▲ UNDER THE GODDESS’ EYE (promo)#▲ WILD CHILD (aesthetic)#▲ A CHAMPION’S TRIALS (verse: botw)#▲ BEFORE THE FALL (verse: pre botw)#▲ WHEN EVERYTHING HAS SETTLED (verse: post botw)#▲YOU ARE THE LIGHT (verse: destiny)
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