#‼️I DO NOT SUPPORT THE ACTIONS OF THESE CHARACTERS OR WHAT THEY REPRESENT‼️

[eenochian]

i loved ur post about how cod fans have been treating the characters!! i found it insane how they were having a moral panic over makarov (is the cod fandom like one of the few fandoms that does this? lol) but it needed to be said… people are drawn to cod characters for many reasons and i’m sure it’s not because of “morals”

Thank you!! I was very nervous posting that, since I know parts of this fandom can get pretty aggressive about other opinions. I wasn’t trying to target or insult anyone with my statement, but there’s very clear double standards with characters!

I actually just made another post about this topic (sounds like self-promo I’m so sorry) because, yeah, this fandom can’t seem to understand that art isn’t always about good morals. Being sensitive and mindful about what you produce and engage with is very important, and doing your part to not be influenced by the problematic content that you consume is very important. However, all media is problematic in some way, especially COD (y’know, the military propaganda series). People need to be able to engage with media like this because, if everything is morally “pure,” then we lose out on important discussions about real-world issues, safe spaces for troubled folks, and lessons on media literacy.

I’ve talked about this and thought about this a lot in the past couple days. Like, I’ve spent a considerable amount of time in the past 48 hours stepping back and looking at myself and my behavior in this fandom. I always try to be mindful, sensitive, and very careful with what I produce. That being said, I’m far from perfect. I have an ongoing fanfic for Makarov on my writing blog. Valeria is one of my favorite characters. I’m indifferent on Graves, but will gladly admit that he’s a very compelling villain and an interesting character.

Acknowledging that these problematic things are problematic isn’t saying that you can’t engage with them. You absolutely should engage with stuff like this if you so wish. The important thing to remember if you do choose to produce content of these characters, however, is that there’s nothing romantic in what they do, and they are based off very real issues in our world. Explore the different sides of them, enjoy them, but do not romanticize them.

A very good mindset that I’ve taken to heart is this: these people may be horrible, but they are still people. Humans are not one-dimensional beings. Explore the other sides of them. Humanize, but do not romanticize.

Sorry for the rambling, but thank you again for the response! People need to be kinder to each other and more mindful of the content they engage with, but that doesn’t equate to complete media purity.

[thesingingrevolution]

Dark Moon: The Blood Altar Theory Based on the “Fever” Music Video

Part I

*NOTE* I occasionally use their names interchangeably. Please keep in mind I am referring to the characters in this, even if I use their real names!

SPOILERS AHEAD‼️

Recently, I’ve come across a Dark Moon theory that Ni-ki (Noa) is hypnotizing the boys, as is shown in the Fever MV.

The creator of the theory also said that she believes Ni-ki’s solo scenes in the bathroom are demonstrative of his immense guilt of doing that to his brothers. The goal of putting the other boys under a spell is what I’ll get into in a minute. However, the first thing I think may support this claim is the glitter on their faces. Throughout the video, we see the members with glitter on their faces. When Ni-ki goes into the bathroom on his own, presumably because of his remorse for his actions, he cleans the glitter off his face.

I believe the glitter may physically represent the boys being under a spell. Being “free” from it may visually be shown when they’re in the pool, as well as when Jay is under the shower.

Additionally, at the beginning of the video, Sunoo leaves the bathroom, and there is an exit sign visible, which may represent something to the effect of Plato’s allegory of the cave.

Part II | Part III | Part IV | Part V

[shallowseeker]

What I got from the finale!

✅ emotional Mary Campbell moment 🥹 We got her driving the car like a maniac, one of my personal favorite modes of Mary Campbell. The moment where she does the hero's sacrifice and everyone is just staring at the portal was a hopeless moment! I find it interesting that the heroic actions John and Mary took seemed truly focused on saving the world and finding "hope" in the devastating, grueling work of hunting. Someone smarter can write about Joan, but I loved how Joan represented the bitterness at being cheated out of life. That she lost her family and brother and "her William." Just...wonderful brainworms!

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❌ Deanna Campbell 🪳 Boo! Hiss! I was quite a fan of @angelsdean Deanna stuff. They didn't even mention her, which I think probably comes from the raw nerve that was Maggie, but also that's a can of worms I doubt a short season could support.

But, still, I expected Mary to struggle emotionally with it a bit more. However, perhaps Mary had to get to a place of "hunting acceptance" to even think about her mom, which tracks with her somewhat closed-off character baseline.

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❌ Badass Millie moment 💪 Millie is ALWAYS badass, so I call this a partial win. I'm just glad she is so present in the fight. So often, parents just get cut out for ease. But overall this episode was quite lacking in Millie. 💔

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✅ Ada conflicted ‼️ I would have liked to see Ada thinking of her son and the hope for a better world, but the fact that she saved Lata is a balm for the soul nonetheless!

The fact that this got resolved so quickly and easily makes me dubious of getting more seasons. I'm going to stream regardless, because I'm STUCK on the Samuel-Deanna-Maggie-Mary schism not scratching my own personal itch.

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✅ Carlos and Lata in danger but being valued ❤️ Lata was in danger and it GUTTED me. I loved it, though. She was forced to break her pacifism in the face of such aggression, which is a neat and realistic thing to show, I think. Sometimes, when the battle and the war comes to you, I don't think turning the other cheek is the proper way forward. There's gotta be balance. Finding that balance is so fuckin' tricky. We're bound to screw it up, but we just gotta keep trying.

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✅ Dean Winchester, wtf is he doing⁉️ Oddly, not so different in terms of the feel from the SPNWin oneshot I wrote forever ago! Perhaps the stages of grief were on my mind then, too.

I wrote a little bit here on how this situation with Dean touches deeply on the bargaining phase grief and meaning making. These, obviously are themes I LOVE and tend to get the most mileage out of, so I was pleased to see them here.

Dean is finding himself. His own clothes, his own varied music. He's also painfully sorting through the sum total of his life, looking to find satisfaction in saving others because that's how he's always found meaning. "I don't know who I am outside of hunting," Mary lamented in the episodes. That's how it is for Dean, too.

But anyway, how about that dark Joan parallel. Whew!

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✅ mention of Jack or Cas, with plausibly deniable emotions 🍪 I was OVER THE MOON we got to see Jack. Again, I feel like I see a bit of frustration in him. He's overworked, poor dear.

Cas is woven into the show in terms of mirrors and parallels, and the fact that Dean is so mission-driven at this point I think it makes sense that Cas isn't coming into it. This is the bargaining phase of the grieving-of-life process.

Right now, Dean is dealing with "Was my life enough?" and "Were my fantasies even possible?" To me, if just feels like classic bargaining and trying to make a cohesive whole out of all that trauma, all while playing "hero" in order to sidestep his issues (it's why Bobby feels so "walking on eggshells" around Dean imho)!

SO uh...JOAN though. Wow. What a dark shadow, worst of worst. The funhouse mirror of hunter gone bad. I dug that a lot and that actress really elevated her damn scenes!

Wishlist for the week:

- emotional Mary Campbell moment 🥹

- Deanna Campbell 🪳

- Badass Millie moment 💪

- Ada conflicted ‼️

- Carlos and Lata in danger but being valued ❤️

- Dean Winchester, wtf is he doing ⁉️

- mention of Jack or Cas, with plausibly deniable emotions 🍪

P.S. if you have any screenshots of Jack I can have or avatars, please let me know

[listeningpostnola-blog]

Local New Orleans Response to Trump’s Immigration Ban

The Trump administration is denying refugees and immigrants from certain Muslim-majority countries entry to the United States. Trump’s also calling for local law enforcement to help detain undocumented immigrants for deportation. Mayor Landrieu has stated the “NOPD will not be coerced into joining Trump’s deportation army.” http://bit.ly/2jXuQL7 

 1. How do you feel about Mayor Landrieu’s response? 

 -Good. 

-I feel amazing about this response! I do not support deportation of undocumented immigrants and I do not support trumps Muslim ban. 

-100% agree. 

-Agree 

-Hell yes thank you landrieu 

-I am 100% behind landrieu. I am so happy to be an Orleans parish resident who has someone fighting for the rights of all, not just some. 

-Mayor Landrieu's statement is the only reasonable response to the current immigration policy. 

-LOVE IT!! 

-Glad he's taking a stand against federal government overreach. 

-They should have been doing their job from the beggining ! Mayor Landrieu is a rich man who wants to pit poor man against poor man! He wants to get his houses painted cheaper by the Mexican laborers , all while expecting higher taxes on the houses owned by local contractors who are struggling for contracts ! 

-I agree 

-Good! 

-It is the correct response!! 

-I agree with the mayor. 

-It's great. 

-workforce needs more immigrant workers to staff the jobs that other more established/assimilated 2nd & 3rd generation American workers no longer want. And from non-violent people who are pursuing the American Dream, trying to better themselves & our nation. Economics experts have been saying for yrs, tht the US a job that belongs to the Feds! And personally, I question both the judgement & the character of any politician who would expend resources locking up Chump! In all seriousness, NOPD, JPSO & Louisiana State Police have enough problems on their hands, as it is; We dont need to burden local law enforcement with Kudo's (I approve!) Of Mayor Landrieu's response; Thank Goodness we have local politicians who will stand up to the illegitimate Russian-anounted "President" what i've seen, immigrant workers work much harder, than American born citizens do. 

-workforce needs more immigrant workers to staff the jobs that other more established/assimilated 2nd & 3rd generation American workers no longer want. And from -non-violent people who are pursuing the American Dream, trying to better themselves & our nation. Economics experts have been saying for yrs, tht the US 

-a job that belongs to the Feds! And personally, I question both the judgement & the character of any politician who would expend resources locking up 

-Chump! In all seriousness, NOPD, JPSO & Louisiana State Police have enough problems on their hands, as it is; We dont need to burden local law enforcement with 

-Kudo's (I approve!) Of Mayor Landrieu's response; Thank Goodness we have local politicians who will stand up to the illegitimate Russian-anointed "President" 

-I am grateful for his response. 

-Great! 

-I agree with the mayor, but while we are disagreeing as Americans the enemy will slip in. 

-Round of applause!!! 

-👍 

-I love it 

- It's so important. Congress isn't standing up to what's seems to be for all purposes unconstitutional legislation. I'm so happy some Mayors are taking a stand. 

-Great answer! 

-I think it's the appropriate response 

-Great! 

-I am ALL for it. This is America and we are all immigrants here. 

-Appropriate 

-I think it's spot on!

-Thank him for me please. 

-I agree with the mayor. For starters, enforcement of federal immigration laws is outside the jurisdiction of local law enforcement. If the feds need help, they need to deputize new agents. 

-I support his response, but question his motives (political positioning) 

-Praise be! At least one government official ain't drinkin da kool aid 

-It's the right decision. We are a country of immigrants 

-NOPD can barely do basic policing in the city with their manpower problems. Although illegal aliens should get whatever is coming to them, not from NOPD. 

-Extremely positive. I'm very proud of Mayor Landrieu 

-Thank you Landrieu!!! 

-Good on the mayor. History will be kind to those who stood up to Orange Foolius. 

-Love it!! 

-I am with Landrieu 100% on that. I may have some reservations about immigration and how it's handled, but it's not the job of local officers to enforce ICE regs 

-https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/acting-attorney-general-an-obama-administration-holdover-wont-defend-trump-immigration-order/2017/01/30/a9846f02-e727-11e6-b82f-687d6e6a3e7c_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.6e416b348ac8# 

-I am 100% behind Landrieu's decision. Trump is a lying hateful fearmongering assclown. 

-Be the first thing Landrieu has done right! 

-I support Mayor Landrieu 100%! Trump frightens me & he certainly did not have a mandate from the voters. He is arrogant, egotistical & dictatorial. It's a sad day for America. 

-I think it's appropriate 

-Positive! 

-Support Landrieu in this all the way! 

-Allow Taxpayers and Crime Victims The Ability To Sue Politicians For Sanctuary City Policies‼️ 

-I'm grateful our mayor isn't going along with this disgusting ban 

-The United States cannot continue to afford to allow these people from all these different countries in here, they are draining the economy, then most of them send their money to their countries, and complain about ours while there here, Mayor Landrieu’s administration cant even repair our streets, or the crime here, hell they cant even pick up trash here, I woudnt ever vote for another politican in Louisiana nor New Orleans again! 

-LOVE IT 

-He sucks 

-I think that's fine by me 

-I am absolutely for that response we must take action against this bigot regime -Agree with mayor

 -I support the NOPD decision & other PD'S across the country. We can't legitimize militarized facism & police have better things to work on. Elaine Masters 

-Solid 

-Bravo mayor landrieu! 

-Trump rules 

-👍 -Good for the mayor. Full support to him. -Immigrants helped rebuild New Orleans. We should not be hunting them down. We should push our government to offer more possible pathways to citizenship. 

-I fully support Mayor Landrieu's stance! -Outstanding. I Truly respect his response 

-Smart answer. 

-I'm fine with that 

-Thank goodness, so glad he is responding this way!!! 

-Good! That's not the job of the NOPD or any other Police Dept. The NOPD is already understaffed and have more important issues that need to be prioritized. Trumps demands are stupid. Like him. 

-i support it. immigrants - legal or no - shouldn't be afraid of local law enforcement. if someone commits a crime against them they aren't going to report it if they think they'll get deported. 

-Great! 

-I feel it's the right thing to do and I hope he sticks to not cooperating 

-I think it shows strength of character & real leadership. 

-Proud! And relieved that our local political leadership at least is sane. -Go Mitch! All these executive orders are bullshit! 

-Yes, yes, yes. Thanks Mitch! 

-I am glad that New Orleans' leadership will not give into the fear and bigotry of the Trump administration. 

-I don't think our mayor should focus his efforts on this issue. He should consider a real plan to fit crime instead. 

-I stand with the Mayor 100%. Trump 's policy is unconstitutional, immoral and in-American. 

-Perfectly appropriate. 

-Love it!!! So proud of this response! 

-Great 

-Who is this 

-I feel glad. It makes me feel good about our City's leadership. 

-Very happy and hoping Mayor Landrieu will continue to #resist 

-Hallelujah! Finally, an elected official with enough balls to stand up to tyrant trump. Thank you, Mayor Landrieu! 

-Great response. 

-I think it's a very compassionate and the only proper response to such an order. If only more officials would stand up to it in such a way.

 -I am fucking thrilled public servants at all levels are pushing back against that orange troll and I hope Mitch keeps it up 

- Hell yes! 

-Thankful -Refugees aren't being denied access, this is an extension of Obama vetting process. If local government won't follow Federal law as instructed by the Mayor, he then is breaking the law. If refugee is caught breaking the law and found to be here illegally, that refugee SHOULD BE DEPORTED or turned over to Feds for prosecution and/or deportation. 

-I stand behind Landrieu 100% 

-Mayor Landrieu's response is appropriate. There are other agencies to handle such issues and NOPD has other things to worry about 

-The Mayor's response is wise and appropriate. It is not the duty of local law enforcement to do the job of ICE. Aside from being outside their duties, it opens the door to profiling and illegal detainment, which we should be combatting as a nation, not emboldening. 

-I support Mayor Landrieu-s response!!!! Mayor Landrieu is able to critically think and I support him 100%!!! 

-Exactly what needed to be done. Refuse to treat other humans as less than. Fear does not rule this country. 

-Support! 

-NOPD has enough on its plate. 

-I'm with Trump!! 

-Proud 

-Support Landrieu 100% 

-Approve 

-Great job, I agree 

-THANKS MITCH 

-He did the right thing 

-It is a mayor's prerogative to serve the people the of his city. Perhaps immigrants (illegal or legal) don't represent a large enough crime problem in new Orleans for him to reallocate police forces. Disproportionate responses are every bit as wasteful as fraud. 

-He's doing the right thing 

-Awesome! -I feel good about it. I'm glad our mayor has a spine. 

-Brilliant 

-Right is right 

2. How might Trump’s immigration policies affect you or someone you know? 

 -I don't think anyone knows or can say. It's an uncertain, frightening time. 

-These policies are of extreme concern to me and my family and friends as many people who work for my family, including my housekeeper, will be in direct danger of being forced to leave due to policies like this. Many of my friends from college are from middle eastern predominantly Muslim countries and are worried that they may lose the ability to stay in this country and work here as they have for many years. 

-None that I'm aware of. 

-I have an Iranian friend living in Florida who is actually a Swedish citizen. His family was granted asylum there due to conflicts in Middle East. He is a green card holder. He still has family in Iran. They will not be able to travel freely to see each other. I find this appalling and I think Trump is a narcissistic bully who bolsters his "image" on the backs of the oppressed. 

-Donald's immigration policies damage diplomatic and cultural relations with the entire Islamic world, undermining the long-term interests of the United States and her allies. 

-I have numerous clients (I'm a lawyer) who are undocumented. I worry how they will be effected. 

-It affects neither me nor someone I know 

-Badly 

-I work with many immigrants. Not clear on how many might be affected...lots of fear and sadness though... 

-Should not affect me or anyone I know 

-Trump's immigration policies are bad for the economy. Latino workers, in particular, tend to be multi-skilled & are incredibly hard working. Trump's immigration - policies are all a charade to pander to the lowest common denominator of society. What's more, Trump's rhetoric is shameful, hate-filled & xenophoebic & is all 

-Trump's immigration policies are bad for the economy. Latino workers, in particular, tend to be multi-skilled & are incredibly hard working. Trump's immigration policies are all a charade to pander to the lowest common denominator of society. What's more, Trump's rhetoric is shameful, hate-filled & xenophoebic & is all a ploy to lead America towards war, for oil industry profits. 

-My boyfriend is a police officer - as a police officer, without Landrieu's response, he could be tasked with a job he doesn't believe is right. He's also half-Egyptian and was raised Muslim. Additionally, he wants to serve and protect the people of New Orleans not deport them. 

-Not at all. 

-I have many friends and former graduate students from Muslim majority and Latin countries. They add a lot to this country and my life, and have always welcomed me to their countries. I'm sad this policy will inevitably cause trouble that will take years to smooth over. It officially signals the US is not an exception to the autocratic regimes it promises to stand up to. 

-Today the focus is on Mexicans & Muslims. Tomorrow it could be blacks whether born here or not. Racism is racism 

-People will be separated from their families -This country is run on immigrant power. The void at all levels would be felt. Our country would stagnate 

-Not personal. Just bad for the country and the world. -Not -H1B workers are very important to the tech sector. 

-Won't affect me nor anyone I know. Whatever impact is felt anywhere will be worked out in the near future. 

-My daughter has a friend who is a citizen and her parents aren't. She's worried they'll be deported. 

-No idea 

-It won't affect me personally, but how would it affect the kids that go to my daughter's school, especially if they're wrongly accused of being here illegally? 

-I have Muslim friends and colleagues, some from countries on the list. I worry that this EO is just the beginning of an extremely exclusive and opaque regime. More countries will be added, and I worry about that. 

-No one in my family, those that were immigrants did it right and many years ago. But i have known some that got caught in the past in the quagmire of papperwork. 

-They affect us all. This is a country build by immigrants 

-Along with taxpayer savings, greater local, state, and national safety and security. 

-I'm the daughter of an immigrant and while these bans don't affect me personally, I can't help but be affected emotionally 

-I might have a better chance of getting a decent job, because I wont have to compete with so many others from all these foreign countries. Also all of my family were born Americans, for generations, I hope he sends all of the ones here back that should not be here, and I support his efforts. Were over crowded here. This should have been done a long time ago. 

-Well as its just asinine it affects all of us. Terrible track for our country overall. 

-Many friends here in San Diego are terrified. Others are cancelling travel plans. It's a nightmare. Elaine Masters 

-Unsure, but it could tear apart my community. That is not worth it, not at all. 

-There are families in our local schools that could possibly be torn apart. Is that something we want? 

-My friend may nor be able to go to his family's country of origin to visit because of fears of not being able to come back to the US. I also feel like the president is setting the US up to be attacked. 

-Not me personally, but I think diversity is good. Vetting is not bad. But banning is... 

-It won't affect me directly but many families I know may be separated. I know people that are here legally , with green cards or visas and have been held for hours at the airport. This is not very American. 

-it hurts the entire country because it weakens our position internationally and because we NEED immigrants. they're an important part of our workforce and communities -It may not affect anyone I know directly but it's a slippery slope policy that has historically been shown to be ineffective and motivated by fear or xenophobia rather than sound policy 

-It doesn't matter. What affects one affects all. We are our brothers keeper -It will not affect me directly, but that doesn't mean I don't have empathy for those it will affect. 

-Some cannot leave the USA or enter the country. 

-*un-American 

-Well, they're certainly going to piss me off. 

-They will affect all of us as he succeeds in angering and providing fodder for radical groups. It may discourage me from traveling abroad for fear of attacks by th 

-Unclear. We don't know what his next steps are. 

-Some of the families that my children go to school with are immigrants or first generation from those areas. Some of the faculty of Tulane, who are my neighbors, are as well. 

-They don't and that doesn't matter. 

-They will not affect me or anyone that I know. But that makes them no less immoral and/or disgusting! 

-It affects the whole country. By closing our boarders, we make ourselves more vulnerable to attack. We are also weakening our ties with allies 

-Will make one friend's job, who works with international students, much harder and stressful considering how much she cares for her students. Could also affect a friend with dual citizenship (Mexico/US), but he might be okay since he's not Muslim. Then again, he's also Mexican, so maybe not. 

-My grad program has a lot of international students some of whom will be unable to visit their families 

-It causes stress because it seems he is creating a combative environment in our country. 

-Will make us safer 

-I have immigrant friends whose lives are already affected-being taunted for being Muslim. Also family with green cards cannot leave us 

-They don't affect me directly but it is possible my 1st generation Muslim coworker could be affected 

-Whether or not everything ends up being enforced, he has incited fear in the Spanish-speaking community, undocumented or not. Working in social services, I have seen and felt the fear of deportation for a long time. Now, with the root of those fears being potentially empowered, people will be even less likely to seek out life-saving community services, like food stamps, police enforcement of non-immigration issues, health services, education compliance for their children, etc. This is the opposite of progress 

-My daughter came home very upset when uninformed individuals purchasing tickets at LSUs box office kept asking her if she was a citizen because of her appearance. We are Asian American. It is incredibly unfortunate that people in the united states do not read FACTS or listen to credible news sources. The white house and all of those in congress who support it are advertising to terrorists and INVITING retaliation. This is a historical and psychological fact. 

-Potentially devastating. Productive, contributing members of this community that were refused legal entry are also members of my family. I'll fight to my last breath to make sure they can stay here. 

-Will affect several student friends and government colleagues in D.C. How, not sure yet! 

-Participated in mentorship program last year working with Syrian refugee family & I know the grandparents were expected to arrive this year to live with them. I know everyone, the kids & grandkids will be heartbroken. They're a nice family. I'm sad for them. I loved know how much I loved my own grandma. 

-President is mitigating danger for all Americans 

-It affects a lot of my close friends. Friends whose parents and grandparents or themselves may be deported now..... 

-It affects everyone. Marginalizing our fellow humans is degrading, and agitating extremists makes us less safe 

-An assault on the Constitution impacts us all 

-Not sure 

-We are all going to be messed up 

-Not applicable 

- Alot 

-Even if they don't affect me directly, the ethics of trumps policies affect a great deal of people who will be put in positions of great uncertainty and danger. 

-Even if they don't affect me directly, the ethics of trumps policies affect a great deal of people who will be put in positions of great uncertainty and danger. Both here and abroad. He's no humanitarian, and neither are his supporters. 

-It affect my direct peace of mind knowing this can happen to one... It can happen to all. I might b next or my bestfriend 

-I know several people who could be deported under this policy. 

3. What about these executive orders feel different from the policies of the Obama administration? 

-The executive orders are obviously being issued with unprecedented frequency. They seem like the actions of someone wishing to rule as a king, not as a president. 

-The fact that they based upon isolationist, extreme, and dangerous ideology that is not based in evidence or rooted in acceptance of a diversity of identities. 

-Obama's were generally to help people. This is the opposite. 

-Obama was was thoughtful and respectful of all people. Trump's "policies" are thoughtless and down right unconstitutional. 

-Obama's executive orders came after unprecedented obstructionism from the republican congress. Donald has a legislature eager to work with him, and he's behaving like an autocrat, circumventing the democracy entirely. 

-They feel dictatorial and not democratic in any way. He's barking orders at the country without regard for the constitution or judiciary 

-They seem mean-spirited and no substantiated with facts 

-Dump does not care about anyone and his policies are not good for anyone!! 

-Obama's executive orders were socially & environmentally driven, to empower govt actions for the public health, or to look out for the interests of the common 

-man. Trump's executive orders are clearly politically driven & are being done in the interests of big business, & not in the interests of working people. 

-They feel, scary. As if to say, this is my world and you're just living in it. It's an affront to democracy. Obama tried to build a better America, Trump is turning us into a fascist nation. I feel like I'm trapped in a dystopian novel. 

-They are bad...but it's important to note Obama deported more people than any previous president. Why weren't more people marching in the streets then? That concerns me. 

-Obama was a good person 

-These executive orders are reactionary and are aimed at boosting rich nationalists' agenda 

-Impulsive, reckless, mean-spirited. -They are ham fisted and not properly vetted. 

-They actually make more sense than Obama's executive orders. 

My sister, a white, cis, get, middle class woman, is status to leave the country to go to an academic conference. My friend is dating a Middle Eastern man (in the US on a visa) and he can't go home to visit his family. Then there's the fact that the president has stated and enforced a rule that violates previous licenses and assurances made by the US gov't. That affects us all. 

-They're Being fueled by the worst elements of the conservative movement. They're written by Steve Bannon, a straight up white nationalist. 

-Brazen disregard of need to consult even fellow Republicans (or cabinet or inside circle) before starting enforcement 

-I think Obama would have been a little more lenient. 

-There seems to be no regard for process or ample time for review and/or fine tuning to account for smooth implementation. 

-His were permanent, and not racist laden. People in the country are not stupid, there is no mistaken by the choice of countries, they were not where the terrorism came from and the ones that did come from he has business interests in. 

-These are more offensive and exclusive. 

-They feel completely erratic 

-The hate and bigotry behind them. 

-Live by the Executive Order, die by the Executive Order. We need Congress to function and work on bi-partisan solutions, so we avoid the fascist dictator-in-chief trap we're falling in to. 

-President Obama was trying to do the best things he could for our country and it's diverse population. The current administration seems hell bent on isolating the country from the rest of the world and deliberately antagonizing it's citizens. 

-The immigration issue seems to be the most visible and controversial executive order I've seen in my life time as for as I can remember it 

-These executive orders are fundamentally un-American. He is a cruel man. Or has Mr Bannon in his ear telling him what to do. Look at the uproar around the world! Everyone is watching us and has nothing nice to say about the new president. It's an embarrassment. 

-he doesn't want to help other people. only himself 

-While I disagreed with many of Obama's actions as president I think his words showed that he realized America couldn't be safe unless we also worked to make the whole world safe. Trump seems to think we can just shut the door and fortify our borders and we'll be fine. 

-Obama was reacting to a targeted attack with intel he had at the time. Orange twitler is just an outright xenophobic racist toddler. 

-The blatant racism comes to mind...... 

-No comment 

-All presidents overuse executive power and Obama was no exception, but at least Trump's predecessors ran their shit through proofreading. 

-No process, no system, no reason is being applied. -Everything. Obama could be trusted. DT is mentally ill. 

-They aren't well planned or coordinated. They create chaos. They seem to disregard their effects on actual human lives. 

-Why would I care about how they feel? They ARE different from the policies of the Obama Administration. The fact that these EOs were executed are proof -Why would I care about how they feel? They ARE different from the policies of the Obama Administration. The fact that these EOs were executed are proof positive of that fact. 

-They are made with the intent to divide, rather than unite, our country. 

-Trump is marginalizing people based on religion 

-From what I understand the majority of the executive actions within the Obama administration (and they ramped up towards the end and were low in relation to recent past Presidents) were a reaction to a combative and obstructionist congress who were unwilling to work with him. Trump has the majority in the house and senate and still doesn't want to go through those legislative checks. At the same time the policies and actions he's set in motion don't reflect my values and what I feel are the true values of the majority of the American public. 

-They seem punitive and decidedly against the public good in favor of special interests 

-They don't seem inclusive 

-Not as egregious as Obama's 

-Oppressive, Bigotted, Xenophobic, Tyrannical 

-Everything Obama did was scrutinized so any executive orders seemed more thoughtful and strategic. These seem punitive and rash. Additionally, the fact that the countries affected by Trump's business interests were omitted makes it seem unfair and suspicious 

-Everything. Obama was not as proactive with immigration issues as many had hoped, but he still put through DACA and did not shut our borders to the most vulnerable populations. Obama's policies seemed more thought out and researched and planned, rather than the absurdities coming from trigger-happy Trump 

-President Obama’s executive orders were well thought out and compassionate. The executive orders of trump are naive and malicious, shaped by an immature temperament. I do not understand how anyone with an IQ over 70 could have voted for such a candidate. trump is anatiobal embarrassment. -It's obvious, isn't it? Obama tried to foster an inclusive ideology. Drumpf set out to separate and divide us all. And he's doing exactly that. 

-Uninformed and reckless. 

-Reactionary, isolationist, paranoid, misguided - but all of that PLUS ignorant, ugly xenophobia & implemented with beaurocratic, short-sighted incompetence.

 -Trump is acting on his campaign promises - Obama promised "change" and for most Americans, Obama's "change" was negative 

-As far as I know, Obama was clear and open about his executive orders, and they oppressed no one. 

-They feel less than totally thought through 

-His were considered responses to problems the Congress refused to take up. Trump's are solutions to problems that can addressed in other ways 

-Unexpected, clunky, not connected to rational world, more spiteful than useful 

-He trying to ruin everything that Obama has done to make us great again smh 

-They represent an agenda that seems premeditated and founded in an effort to further oppress 

-Very targeted.. Parallel to the 'war on drugs'. Who did President Obama's administration try to oppress?  

-My friends are more fearful