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getvalentined · 1 year ago
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The fact that Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are confirmed by in-universe events to occur on an entirely different timeline from any other games in the series makes everything make so much more sense, and I'm much more comfortable with that.
Long-winded rambling about timeline divergence points and other implications under the cut. Spoilers abound, so be warned.
The timeline appears to have diverged all the way back with the first hero; Skyloft doesn't exist, meaning Hylia never threw proto-Link into the fray. This also explains why Fi is still clearly awake, since the Master Sword is so "talkative."
My sister's theory about the other main divergence is that the Zonai would have become the Twili if things had been different. Comparing everything that makes up Zonai culture (architecture, clothing, magic) this appears to not only be entirely possible, but almost absolutely certain. All these things can be seen in Twili culture, changed but intact after eras apart.
In the original timeline, the people that would eventually be referred to as Hylians also had the power to send land into the sky, so they'd have no reason to see the Zonai with their power as something like gods. In fact, accounting for what we know of Hylian imperialism, they'd likely see them as competition, which tracks perfectly with what happened to the Twili. But in a timeline where the first hero and Skyloft never existed, that wouldn't be the case at all.
And then, after the majority of the Zonai left for reasons currently unexplained, Rauru and Mineru stayed—because Rauru had fallen in love with Sonia. This led to a union of their people instead of a war, and that terminated any possibility of timeline where the Twili would come into being.
The Imprisoning War is literally the storyline of Ocarina of Time, but on this different timeline. Link isn't here. He doesn't exist, because Hylia never chose him. We know Hylia still exists, since Sonia was a priestess of Hylia prior to being the first queen of Hyrule, but a number of quests throughout ToTK show very clearly that the goddess statues apparently don't actually represent or interface with Hylia. The Bargainer in the Great Central Mine is able to interface through it, and they're very clearly not related to any divine light.
Likewise, the Triforce was never claimed by anyone, the Sacred Realm doesn't appear to exist—so Demise was sealed some other way, possibly through a sacrifice on Hylia's part directly, and was then eventually manifested within or was bound to Ganondorf in some other way.
According to Wortsworth, there has never been another Zelda in the entire Hyrule royal line. He says it outright. In the other timeline(s), Zelda is a family name that's been in use since the days of Skyloft. This indicates that in the Calamity timeline, pieces of Hylia aren't locked into a reincarnation cycle in order to keep meeting Link over and over.
The princess and the hero that defeated the first Calamity were not Zelda and Link, because there's never been a Zelda or a Link before. This makes the huge lapse in time between the first Calamity and the events of BoTW/AoC actually work! It also explains why the sword in the tapestry looks like Ghirahim's, not like the Master Sword. It explains why the hero has red hair.
It's not Link and it's not Zelda. It never was. They're both new.
It also explains why the Sheikah are so different; in this timeline, they were never subject to a near-genocide at the hands of Hyrule. The tear on the eye in the Sheikah symbol doesn't represent tears shed over the loss of their people and culture. It represents tears shed over the loss of Rauru, Sonia, Mineru and Zelda. Tears shed over sacrifice after sacrifice in the hopes that someday—someday—it could come to an end.
The chamberlain who wrote all the tablets up on those little lotus islands, the historical accounts that Wortsworth translates, is very clearly the woman who would become the first Sheikah.
The chamberlain was left behind after everyone else left, and was probably responsible for the upbringing of Rauru and Sonia's daughter the same way Impa raised Zelda in Ocarina of Time—because they must have had one, even if we don't hear about her, because Zelda exists, her mother existed, the magic that they all inherited from Rauru and Sonia combined into one bloodline existed.
Comparing ancient Sheikah technology with that of the Zonai, it's clear that it was repurposed, replicated to the best of their ability after the ones who could actually utilize it to is fullest capacity were all gone. The Sheikah in the Calamity timeline even wear the eye in the same place as in old Zonai imagery. The last vestige of a memorial to a whole race that was lost when Rauru sealed himself and Ganondorf away, when Mineru's body finally gave out to the gloom.
Lore gremlin that I am, I've always had so much trouble reconciling the Calamity timeline with the rest of the series in any way—and that's because it's an entirely different timeline altogether, and that's fantastic.
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zora-kinhelp · 8 months ago
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welcome to zora kinhelp !
this is a multifandom kinhelp blog run by one guy — hi, i'm mod sidon! — here to help you with all your kinning needs.
while this blog was mainly made for fictionkin, introjects, and alterhumans, everyone is welcome to send in requests, including for comfort characters and regressors! happy to see you stumbled upon this blog and i hope you enjoy your time here :) more information under the cut!
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☆ services ☆
requests: OPEN refer to the 'familiar sources' section for (you guessed it) well-known sources!
stimboards: [OPEN]
moodboards: [OPEN]
icons: [OPEN]
selfcare kits: [SEMI-OPEN]
music playlists: [OPEN]
name/nickname ideas: [OPEN]
neopronoun ideas: [OPEN]
activity recs: [OPEN]
general headcanons: [OPEN]
stim headcanons: [OPEN]
phone wallpapers: [OPEN]
i will also post kinfessions, character calls, infodumps, and most things you want to share through our askbox! please mention what it is in your ask :)
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☆ the mod ☆
name/s: sidon or neptune + other kin names (if you know them) pronouns: he/him + any sea neos bio: hello hi! i am mod sidon, the one and only mod of zora kinhelp!! i also created and help run @miss-retros-kinhelp as mod holloway and stole a good amount of the formatting from there — but it's fine, because i made the formatting. besides that, i'm an audhd lover of cowboys, dancing, and marine animals; i speak english and french + i am learning italian, i'm transmasc, and i've seen newsies at least 30 times. i'm tismtastic
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☆ familiar sources ☆
legend of zelda franchise — especially botw, totk, and aoc
musicals — can be any; i am especially familiar with newsies, 25apcsb, next to normal, ride the cyclone, and starkid/tin can bros shows. i am also very familiar with six and west side story, but i'm generally picky with requests about them.
jrwi riptide
the quarry [game]
percy jackson series
animal crossing franchise
minecraft
stardew valley
generation loss
heartstopper
sanders sides
marvel cinematic universe — i am new to this source, so i may not be the best at requests for it
dsmp — i haven't touched this in years, but i'm happy to do requests for it! also includes mangoball au wink wink
ddlc — again, haven't touched it in a while, but will do my best for reqs
dungeons & dragons
otherkin/theriotypes — especially marine animals !
i'm open to doing reqs for sources i'm unfamiliar with so long as the ask provides enough information for me to get a feel for what you want; i do, however, hold the right to deny or ignore any request i am uncomfortable with or feel i cannot complete to the best of my ability! i do not have a set blacklist but i will let you know if i'm uncomfortable with a source and i may add one in the future if i find it necessary.
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DNI : terf, anti-neo pronouns, anti-xenogender, anti-kin, syscourse, NSFW / kink blog, not minor-friendly divider creds : @cafekitsune (x, x) tagging sys : link
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🐦 Any Opinions or Headcanon(s) about a certain Zelda Race?
🎭 When you play Zelda games, do you imagine being Link yourself, or is Link a separate character to you? Basically, are you Link, or is Link a separate character?
🐦: i headcanon that rito have highly variable lifespans, because, well... birds... depending on the species birds can have a lifespan of like. 5 or 100 years. so i think rito can live for like... 50 or 500 years. also i think sheikah hair grows really fast because it's the only way i can explain aoc impa's hairstyle
as for opinions on the races, i think. nintendo may have fucked up a little bit with the gerudo. and by that i mean they fucked up so incredibly hard and spilled racism everywhere. i still love the gerudo ofc i simply must destroy nintendo in their name
🎭: sort of... both? i internally narrate like it's me, but when there's a cutscene or a story moment or something i think of link as a separate person
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ferallymine · 2 years ago
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AOC: Cardplayers
a/n: I asked my deck what a reading for this trio would look like and here we are. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
The hut was small in comparison to her study- both rooms could easily fit inside it judging by how it looked on the outside. How could a space be so small, yet house so many oddities? The hut’s outside appearance lied to all watching about what it could possibly contain.
 Zelda admired the trinkets and haphazardly displayed plants, potions, and other assorted goods in Iris’ living space. There’s just so many things to ask her. If she didn’t know better, Zelda would only think of her as a mystical hoarder. The bedroom door was closed, but she imagined what other mysteries could be inside. Even the dust highlighted in the sunlight from the window felt ethereal and specially placed. Her own study could never feel this cozy, no matter how much Zelda loved being in it.
 Link simply sat beside her, silent but also curious. Only the ones who knew him best could tell by the glint in his eyes- often the only way to gauge his true thoughts. He didn’t have any burning questions, unlike the royal to his right. He felt her fidget in her seat, eyes darting everywhere.
 Was it dust, glitter, dirt, or remains in that tattered leather pouch? What’s in all those corked bottles? Why are some of them sealed in wax? Some of these plants should be impossible to plant inside- how did she do it? Was that a-
 “My Lily, you could summon a horde with the sound of your thoughts,” The witch laughed, turning from the counter to face a now flustered Zelda. “Do you want to ask about my living choices, or would you like to use our time on the cards?” Such an air of friendly teasing in her words.
 “S-sorry! The cards please.” Zelda didn’t mind the nicknames Iris gave, but it always made her feel special in a strange platonic sense. It was a similar warmth to Urbosa’s ‘little bird.’ It was soft- gentle, even- in a world where a cursed prophecy required the worst parts of themselves to be put first.
 Zelda realized she had spaced out, returning her gaze back to Iris.
 She pulled beautifully worn cards from a sage green cloth. Iris closed her eyes, shuffling the cards with mastery. Her fingertips seemed to blur together as the cards moved. There was a faint energy in the air. All three of them felt it pull at their inner selves. What power could pull their questions into a carefully detailed piece of paper?
 In rapid succession, Iris laid out seven cards. “Alright… what do we have?”
                In front of Link lay the Page and 4 of Cups.
                In front of Zelda lay the Hierophant and R! 8 of Wands.
                In front of Iris lay the R! Sun and the Queen of Wands.
                In the middle lay Justice.
 “Ah.”
 “Ah? What do you mean ‘ah,’ Iris?!”
 “I mean ‘Ah.’ Like a pompous way to say the last syllable in your name.”
 “Well, what does it say? Tell us!” Tell me, please…
 “Don’t rush what you don’t yet understand, Highness.” Iris hummed as she looked the spread over. Her fingers gently hovered over each card, thoughts collecting before she spoke, “I think I know what it’s saying…”
 “My Alium,” She turned to Link- his poker face unchanged, “…your cards mean to trust your instincts. Your passions and talents are unmatched in skill, yes, but there’s more to find if you look around. Let others help you; Don’t get tunnel vision.”
 Link slowly nodded, pieces of his hair drifting over his face. Iris sensed reservations in the way he held his fists by his side, but said nothing. She shifted her weight to face Zelda- who was frantically scanning over all the cards. Easy there, Lily…
 Zelda waited, anxious nerves tingling just underneath her skin. When Iris had told her she once knew cartomancy, she immediately begged for a reading. Zelda hoped that the cards would help her directly talk to the powers above, or at least give her answers to why her power wasn’t awakening.
 “This figure is the Hierophant. Since it’s accompanied by the reversed 8 of wands, I think the powers want you to face your frustration with traditions and authority.” Iris closed her eyes, wiggling her fingers to find the right words. A breath before she continued, “You’re feeling stuck, most of it being entangled with standards of religion. Maybe let yourself be, well, yourself, instead of what His Majesty demands.”
 “This is just what we already know!” Zelda stood in frustration, but hit her head off the bookshelf above the seat. She furiously rubbed the bump, both as a distraction from the pain and to just… move. Scream without screaming. Why can’t anyone give a straightforward answer!
 Iris scooted her chair back, pulling the table with her. She figured that letting Zelda do what she needed would be better than anything else. Link followed suit, keeping his eyes on the environment for anything dangerous that could fall. The cards were jostled, but nothing overly disruptive disturbed their placements.
 “I don’t mean to put so much into something so meaningless,” Zelda blinked back tears, “But by the Goddess I wanted some sort of straightforward answer.”
 Iris cocked her head, “…I understand where you’re coming from, but this did give some insight-”
 “NO IT DID NOT!” Her sudden yell silenced everything. It was as if even the very dust in the air came to a standstill, the plants seemed a bit less green, and the sunlight faded as clouds began to blot the sky. Zelda’s breaths became heavy as she tried to control her emotions. “What about your cards, huh? What do they say?! That you’re perfect and mighty enough to face this?!”
 “I will not answer to someone yelling at me like that.” Iris interlocked her fingers, face stone cold. “Take all the time you need, but I will not tolerate this in my home.”
 “You are to help me, Iris! You swore allegiance!”
 “My allegiance is to Hyrule, not to someone who thinks yelling condescending insults will get her answers.” Iris waved a hand, maroon smoke sending the cards flying into the air. She reached out, randomly grabbing one as the rest fell wherever.
 “Hmm… 9 of Swords,” Iris looked back at Zelda, “Go rest. You’ve got too much on your mind for clear thinking.” Another wave of the hand opened her bedroom door. Zelda stood defiant for only a moment, then sighed and retreated. The slam of the door rattled some pots, but nothing fell.
Link sat still, stunned at the sudden outburst. Not knowing what else to do, he knelt to pick up some of the scattered cards. Iris swirled maroon around, gathering ones he hadn’t grabbed.
 “What did your cards say?”
 Iris paused, looking up to make sure she heard correctly. Crimson met blue as their gaze set on each other. Link’s face blushed, realizing this was one of the very rare times he allowed himself to speak. He dared not move, suddenly too embarrassed to do anything beyond stare at her.
 Iris’ face softened, thought a light blush graced her face. “Mine said that I’ve got to face some inner sorrows, but if I remain confident and determined, I should come out relatively okay. Anything could define that term, though. The middle card invited us to realize our impact on the Calamity if we stay to what’s true.”
 Link smiled, looking at his hands. Seeing the remaining cards, he quickly offered them to her. There were only a few and they were all haphazardly clumped together, facing many ways. The Lovers card lay on top, just under his thumb. Iris chuckled before accepting them.
 She knew that puzzled look on his face as she put the cards in the cloth. “The Lovers can be quite literal when they come up. Often times, though, they represent a choice to be made. There’s a duality to life that we tend to forget as we move along.” She finished tying off the cloth, moving to set it on the shelf, “But these are the cataclysmic prophesied times, so who knows how many choices we’ll have to make await us.”
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echogekkos-writes · 3 years ago
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E (Different This Time), S, U, V?
E. A sequel to Different This Time? I think the fic would not have a sequel, but rather more chapters. One involving Sidon doing good on his word and finding dragon scales for the Zora Armor...encouraging Mipha about her love for Link, perhaps even being there when it's finally presented!
S. Fandom tropes I can't resist. Oh yeah! One Bed™️, Friends to Lovers, Snowed in + Huddle for Warmth, Cave Story, Some good old Hurt/Comfort, to name a few. And I have found a new appreciation for Fake Dating recently.
U. Pairing I'd like to attempt? The ones I really want to try for right now are Shakarian, Zelimpa (i only really dabbled in it as a background ship in one fic), and Midlink.
V. Secondary or Underrated character I want to see more of in a fic? That's hard. I guess it depends on the fandom.... but since I'm deep into BoTW/AoC I'd like to see more of is the unnamed Shekiah poet. Not only was this Kass's teacher but he had fallen in love with Zelda. At least from the fics I have read this has hardly been explored and I think has some great potential to be expanded on.
Oh and the Big Bad Bazz Brigade. Either as adults or children. I think they need to be included or written about a lot more. They were Link's really good friends after all.
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