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bitches will fuck up your entire life and show up at your door with "hey, bestie, wanna team up lol?" pack it up and GO!
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love me not

loner!reader x needy!chris
WARNINGS: use of y/n, suggestive, neck kissing, arguments, jealousy, alcohol consumption, language, POV switches. the series itself will contain smut fluff and angst ⋆𐙚
p.s I'm dyslexic lmao <33 but I did my best
pls enjoy <3
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prev parts: INTRO / 1
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CHAPTER 2 || bitches broken hearts
CHRIS' POV
I nudge open y/n's bedroom door, my eyes scanning her frame as her hands smooth over her dress. it hugged her tightly, accentuating the features I already knew she had, but were now on show for everyone else. her eyes searched mine for approval.
"what do you think?" she asked softly. her expression had a hint of annoyance, indicating she was still a little mad at me.
this whole thing was matts plan. he'd completely disregarded my adamant request to leave us alone just for the one night. I know she'd texted him during the month she was away. while for me, it was complete radio silence. it wasn't fucking fair.
we'd relaxed on the couch together, watching trash tv and just purely enjoying each other's company after such prolonged tension. we didn't speak on the matters at all, just vague small talk to keep everything lighthearted. then matt decides to join, which (at least from my perspective) completely wrecked the peaceful atmosphere we'd created. him and y/n make polite conversation which slowly turns into a more genuine and relaxed one. my arm that rested atop her shoulder moved down to her waist, gripping her possessively. matt tensed up, finally holding eye contacting and observing my almost territorial body language. the most surprising detail of the entire situation was how y/n behaved.
all I wanted was to piss matt off enough that he left us alone. I had anticipated it partially pissing y/n off in the process - but it did the opposite.
she snuggled herself closer into my side, a smirk growing on her face as she continued talking to matt, who seemed to be growing more anxious as I held my death stare. she was enjoying this.
the argument with matt before had upset y/n the most i think because I wouldn't let her talk. I spoke over her and wouldn't let her explain anything. I was too angry to try and have a communicative outcome, which she resented. but now, I'm letting her say everything she wants, letting her maintain her freedom, but also making it fucking clear that despite our lack of labels, no one else can even look at her for too long.
I finally felt that I had a sense of control over the situation. which as per usual was under threat when matt started to get himself involved once again.
"do you think you'll go to Tara's party?" he questioned her, I watched as her smile dropped at the thought.
"i-i mean.. it's not really my scene matt." she shut him down.
"I know, it's not really mine either. but you can end up making some friends yknow? it could be cool. everyone will be too drunk to tell if anyone's being socially awkward so you don't need to worry about that." he persisted, and worse of all - i could tell she was considering it.
what the fuck?
READER POV
"are you serious, matt?" chris spits out. and to think he was letting me speak for myself for once.
to be honest I really wasn't up for the idea. if people will be too pissed to tell that I'm socially awkward then they'll be too pissed to remember me in general. automatically meaning I wouldn't have actually made friends. it would all be unnecessary anxiety. but the fact chris had only managed to last 5 minutes without being verbally possessive made my brain flick a switch on the whole idea.
"it could be good practise though." I spoke up, watching his eyes turn from stressed to a look of someone who'd been betrayed. chris can be very dramatic, to the point that this ordeal was almost comedic.
"practise? you don't need more friends. that's not the issue. why would being around a bunch of assholes who are too wasted to be polite help you?"
"well- as matt said, they wouldn't remember it. so there's less worry about how I appear to people. it could be less humiliating." his expression twisted into confusion.
"the fuck? you don't need to worry about how you appear around us. what's the benefit of it being those guys?"
"chris, I do worry about how I appear around you guys. it's not personal and- trust me, I wish it wasn't that way but it is. it's the same with everyone." my eyebrows furrowed as I spoke, frustrated as he was acting as if this was all news to him.
"chris, it's worth a shot. if it'll be easier with people at the party then she should try it." matt chimed in, backing up mine and his arguments.
"matt you do fucking understand that more friends doesn't mean more time she can cope being around people, it just means more people to fucking share it around with. I'd never see her."
"can you stop talking about me like I'm not right fucking here?" I spat. exhausted of the pointless argument over a hypothetical situation.
"it's my choice." I continued as I watch chris' gaze lower to his own lap in regret. he didn't say sorry but it wasn't as if that was out of character for him.
I know he felt guilty. and yeah his points were valid to a certain extent. but it's my choice. and caring about me doesn't give him the excuse to be disrespectful towards me.
chris always had this overprotective nature towards me. which growing up, I definitely appreciated. but now it's morphed into being territorial over me - including pushing me away from even his own brother. those situations are the ones I usually fight back on. I understand not trusting other people, people he doesn't know. but matt? it was too ridiculous to not say a word on. but all of this being said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't revel in his possessiveness. I could never deny that I didn't love chris' habit of looking at people as if he was mentally killing them for being remotely close to me. all the while holding onto his soft, nice guy persona when it came to speaking to me even a moment later. but this was only most of the time. he must've been on edge from me being gone for a month but it was the closest he'd been to raising his voice at me. which I couldnt let him do - as much it embarrassingly turned me on.
CHRIS' POV
I had a gut feeling just from parking outside that this would all turn to shit. and fast. y/n was very clearly increasing in anxiety through-out the whole day, only going forward with the plan in spite of me.
"y' seriously don't have to do this" I whispered as all four of us walked towards the house. "'m not gonna say some dumb shit about being right - I don't care. I just don't want you to feel like shit because of all this." I persisted.
"it's okay. can you just like- stay next to me? or just near me." she whispered back sweetly, seemingly a lot less annoyed at me now, but not enough to call it off.
"course." the positive about this was the fact she asked me, not matt.
her and tara hit it off the best. she approached us four, nick had already given her a run down on the plan, so she knew the ins and outs of some things that would help y/n or do the opposite. she directed us towards the drinks, encouraged y/n to stick around her for night so she can introduce her to some people - she assured her that it wouldn't be anything stupidly formal. I could tell y/n felt a bit more at ease while tara was handling the situation, easing into me comfortably while we sat on the couch while tara was talking to anyone and everyone, being the life of the party.
then in comes nick and matt to disturb the routine we had going. they were adamant that she should go meet someone, so we signalled to tara half goodbyes and walked over to the kitchen. matt had his hand on the small of y/n's back and directed her through the dancing crowd while I got stuck behind. I felt a hand on my arm preventing me from going further.
"oh my god! you're one of the triplets!" some girl called out to me, practically yelling in my ear over the blasting music. I made limited small talk till I realised that everyone I was following was out of view. as the conversation went further, the girl started to flirt and encouraged me to dance with her. I said I would but I needed a few drinks first. I know now that I was wrong. my job was to stay by y/n. but she had matt. and I had neither of them in that moment.
READER POV
I watched chris hold some random girl against a wall, running his lips down her neck hungrily, eyes shut in concentration. I'd had to stick closely to nick and matt for the duration of the redt of the night due chris' distraction. it was upsetting for obvious reasons but that turned into annoyance when wed collectively agreed to go. his brothers were tired, I was tired and there was only so much small talk we could all handle - especially now that tara was entertaining larger crowds, completely wasted. luckily, matt offered to interrupt chris so that we could go home.
me and nick stood awkwardly by the front door as matt interrupted them. the girl got all giggly as they continued flirting under their breath so I couldn't make out what they said but either way it made me sick to my stomach. as soon chris was remotely on his way, I left to head out to the car before everyone else, determined for him not to see that it had got to me.
he seemed very happy with himself on the drive home. smirking and chuckling to himself, which increased everytime he caught me staring. I could practically taste the alcohol on him from how strong it's scent was.
none of us were aware chris had drunk at the party but it had become very evident once we had got into the car.
it was just us two in the backseat. he'd sat himself in the middle seat, looking down at me, his eyes sparkling from the city lights. It bothered me the most that his expression felt insulting but really it wasn't. he looked at me even more lovingly than usual, clearly not seeing my eye contact as irritation but just enjoying that I was looking at him at all.
"you're so pretty" he muttered quietly, trying to draw my attention back to him once I'd looked away. my eye were fixed outside the window, much to chris' growing disapproval. "cmon look at me .. please?" he whispered, snuggling his head into the crook of my neck.
he started pressing soft kisses to my neck and as much as I knew I should resist, the longer I hesitated, the more passionate his kisses grew which just increased the warmth between my legs.
"chris.. enough." I whispered, knowing that the combination of him being drunk, the fact I knew matt could see all of this transpiring, and the memory of him with that other girl was too much to do nothing about the situation. his kisses slowed down, trailing up to my cheek before he stopped and looked me in the eyes.
"no good no more?" he asked timidly, with a look as if he was about to cry.
"we just can't right now." my eyes indicating towards the front of the car.
"right now?" the smirk was brought back to his face from my response, which was luckily enough for him to just rest his head on my shoulder for the rest of the car journey. I fiddled with the locks of his hair, desperately trying not to replay the memory of him making out with that other girl.
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a/n , next part will be smut <3 I'm also quite happy with how this chapter turned out so YAY super excited for you guys to see the next one since I could only post half coz the length
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TMAGP 23 thoughts, spoilers under the cut!!
lmao I love how Sam’s reasoning for bothering with the response department paperwork is to A) assume it’s Alice doing a bit and B) seeing how long Alice can keep up said bit. I would do the same thing tbh
Lena cautioning him against it raises some red flags about what it might actually be though. That said, if doing the paperwork really is dangerous, she isn’t exactly trying all that hard to convince him to stop so who knows?
Chester statement time!! It’s an internet one this week hell yeah I’m ready for some red canary (or weird movie) esque shit
“Creating a better me”???? this sounds… very Strange
what do you mean by “finding your piece”? It sounds at first like affirmations but then the statement writer directly refutes the idea of it being a psychological/ “inner peace” thing
The second post makes it seem like this piece thing is an object taken from a significant location in your life. That’s less cursed that what I thought it was gonna be (a body part)
the implication that this person did something at least mildly illegal to get their piece is somewhat troubling. it was probably just theft though. Also they never specified what the piece is
“I’m sure it’s totally safe and not at all dangerous to sleep with the piece in my bed” famous last words
Also why do you need to keep it warm??? Is it alive????? And you have to “bond with it” which I guess is in line with making a “better you”. I guess it has to know what you’re like to emulate you or smth idk but this doesn’t sound like it’ll end well
ok it’s coral. Why are you worried about keeping it warm? If it’s not in water it’s definitely not alive.
MAAM WHY DO YOU HAVE SURGICAL EQUIPMENT AND WHY IS THIS POST CALLED “FIRST CUT”
you fucking watered your coral with your own blood to grow a better copy of yourself? The fuck? What is the point??? Do you WANT to get replaced????
Wait no she transplanted the coral into her body to grow it. What the fuck maam are you trying to reproduce through some cursed version of asexual budding???
okay yeah that’s exactly what’s happening this thing burst out of her
I mean at least she planned this out and took off work so she doesn’t lose her source of income I guess??? And she made sure she had proper supplies and a paralysis computer.
Oh damn this lady is just straight up willingly getting replaced. This is reading more and more like the original Alesis Newman is more akin to a shed skin than anything related to asexual reproduction
Oooh it went wrong. Not sure how but it definitely did
Oh shit this world’s Jon and Martin have been dead for 20 years and have no connection to the Magnus Institute
YOOO CELIA’S LOOKING INTO BASIRA AND HELEN
wait how would she know about Helen? Did the tunnels cult ever meet her? I don’t remember
OH WAIT I REMEMBER SHE TRIED TO EAT CELIA (at least, according to Melanie and Georgie) lol girlie why would you want to find her ageidjdief
Oh poor Gwen is not doing great.
Oh my god she’s actually talking to Alice instead of being snappy
And Alice seems to be. Actually listening !!!! Here’s how Dyhard can still win-
Alice fully believes Gwen
LMAO THE IMMEDIATE GLITCH AFTER GWEN SAID “I’ve not been arsey”
we’ve got confirmation that [Error] has a shitload of eyes let’s gooooo archivist moment
Alice immediately recognizing the tape recorder from her own experience and putting the pieces together that the whole oiar is being targeted is peak girlboss energy hell yeah Alice
And Gwen is obviously taking Alice’s experience seriously too hell yeah
Alice and Gwen are in danger? I think they should kiss about it
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Mr. 6 made you do a good show to be released?? 👀 um....
This is already giving serious eye vibes.
A whole show dedicated to public humiliation?
The Mr. Bonzo suit started moving??? 👀 Serious stranger vibes. 🤡
"It actually became a sort of ritual"
I've seen people being like "don't cross tag" but buddy... the writing cross tags itself here I mean c'mon! 😂 Something something ritual of the stranger- okay, I'll keep listening!
Hey, what's with the music?? Hey, who is Terrance Menki???👀
"The police said there were eleven bodies in total and his wardrobe was full of all sorts of homemade costumes." BRO IS ACTUALLY MAGNUSPOD WILLIAM AFTON-
"It certainly had a profound effect on the Mr. Bonzo brand." Oh I'm sure it did, holy fucking shit. 👀
Oh, me using this image is rather ironic now.
"In a lot of ways I’m more his prisoner now than I ever was on my show." WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 👀
"The witness statements from three murders over the last five years that claim a person in a Mr. Bonzo costume was at the scene? Do you think there could be a copycat?" Has the fear of clowns manifested as an actual clown-guything?
"Don’t contact us again." "Us?" "Why am I still trapped dealing with all this this- Why won’t he let me go?! Why-" So Mr. Bonzo is absolutely a clown cryptid of sorts with some sort of hold over Nigel.
Oh no, Gwen's about to fuck around & find out, isn't she? 👀
Hey, is Colin still himself & is he supposed to be back?
Hmm, okay, I guess that's him (hopefully).
"Maybe don’t tell them I’ve been on their terminals. They’ll only get the wrong idea." "If Lena asks, I wasn’t here." Seems like everyone's got their own little secret investigations going on, fun! This can only go well! 🙃
One of the episodes absolutely no one shows up to work except Lena is there & is like "where the fuck did everyone go?"
"Time to get some new hires again I guess."
Let's go!! Ruin exploration gang!!

"Like, it’s Saturday night and I’m choosing to hang out in a hole with you. A wet hole. And not the good kind either."
Alice with the absolute best quotes. lmao
That sounds like something with giant wings like a bat or some sort of cloth flapping in the wind. Let's hope it's the latter!
Oh a rusty old filing cabinet! Wait tetanus- 😭
"That carved floor in the big atrium – I don’t know what’s going on with that." Ah so we're just gonna breeze past that then. 😶
These are probably the remnants of old avatar creation test areas like mentioned in the Gerry & Gertrude episode. I'm just assuming here.
A key? Big find! Let's go!
AS I WAS SAYING-
Gwen, it was nice knowing you. 🫡
"Now get out of his house."
Archivist! 👁👄👁
"symbols of ancient otherworldly power"
Wait could this be a timeline where this universe's Jane Prentiss actually did manage to invade the building & succeed? I'm thinking out loud.
21:10 that sounds like critters, insects specifically 👀
"I have memories of weird stuff I saw here, but no context. I want to know what was happening, why they chose us… why they didn’t choose me. Maybe find the bit where everything started to go wrong." I am so captivated & intrigued please recount said memories to us- I mean Alice so we can learn more. Please. 👀
EXCUSE ME, WHO THE FUCK WAS THAT?!? WHO IS "[ERROR]?"
WHY DO THEY SOUND DISTORTED AS FUCK?? ARE THEY FROM THE PRIME TIMELINE OR IS THIS A NEW THING?
ARE WE GAZING OUR EYES UPON A WRETCHED THING FROM THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES?!
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Is Lucia Wright an avatar of The Flesh now (in this universe or from the original timeline somehow)? Because it sure fucking sounds like it! 👀 Well, at least that key was put to good use! 😂
Also, supposedly Mr. Bonzo is a reference to Mr. Blobby.
Gwen, I'd be quaking in my boots too. That thing is terrifying!
Late observation but this universe & story seems to focus a lot on the cryptids & I like the direction it's going in! Loving this plot of cryptid hunters, childhood avatar experiments, a strange institute where our main character has past trauma, & just all of it is so good! 💜
Amazing episode, 10/10, I was at the edge of my seat the entire time! 💜 That Bonzo scene & the sound design were absolutely horrifying, thank you! The ending too! 🔥
#nigel dickerson if you need help from mr. bonzo or mr. six please blink twice omg#what if bonzo & six are actually the same creature or entity of sorts?#someone keep an eye on Colin; I'm worried about him#that carved floor in the big atrium is gonna come back into importance I just know it#so Lena uses mr. bonzo as a hitman crytpid of sorts... & now Gwen is exposed to the occult#this episode is a lot... holy crap#these episode do not miss; oh my gods; hit after hit; every time!#worm tracks made me think of jane prentiss; I just made the connection#did lucia wright become an avatar of the flesh & invade this world or is she a left over experiment of the magnus institute#I can only hope Gwen Bouchard will tell the others about wtf she saw (likely against Lena's wishes)#tmagp liveblog#mine#op#tmagp 10#tmagp#tmagp spoilers#tma spoilers#tma#the magnus protocol#the magnus archives
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Submission message for Klance: howdy, would like to submit keith and lance from voltron (lmao)
Submission message for Supercorp: Supercorp! Lena and Kara from Supergirl!
Additional propaganda Klance: Now Keith and Lance on the other hand was a whole fucking mess that they then shoehorned in an hetero romance to try and "fix it" but by lord it was bad, everything about voltron is so fucking bad
Anyway this is my Klance propaganda : They were actually bait
Klance's queer baiting by the team was the worst!! We had to deal with NETFLIX ALSO GETTING IN ON THE QUEER BAITING!! If you searched up Kkance during the times for season 6-8, the SHOW WOULD POP UP. The directors would make jokes about it being canon, even Lance's VA got in the joke!
Their queer baiting was the worst for anyone who was even looking for an ounce of queer rep in that show. The only queer rep we got was a man who died after not even 5 minutes on screen, and shoehorned in the credit scene of a gay wedding of a character that was neither Keith nor Lance.
I do not know Agatha and Sophie, so I can't argue that klance was bigger bait or not, I just know voltron was mean lmao. the creators said stuff like "lance will be someone's first choice!" (meaning NOT ending up in a relationship with allura bc she very much chose another guy over him) and heavily implying he would be Keith's 1st choice (or a guy in general bc of point number 2). point number 2: they also released official art showing how super cool and diverse the main cast was! race! gender! LGBT - they had shiro (who was......canon gay but that's a whole other can of worms) and lance hold the sign with LGBT on it and then did absolutely nothing with that w lance at all (he hit on allura, so obvi he's not gay, but at least bi or smt) (UNLESS you count the scenes where he's flirty with keith). I just remember going into the last few seasons being like "klance probably won't be happen be honest with yourself there's like no queer kids shows!! but damn like it so could tho!!! because of how much it's been teased both in the show and by showrunners like I can't have no hope with the way the producers talk about it!" lmao I should have had no hope, but i genuinkey believed there was a possibility it could happen. and actually I discovered after the fact that i think one of the writers for the show who was the main advocate for klance (they had a lot of diff writers for eps, which led to lots of character butchering but ANYWAY) left not terribly long into the show I believe bc he didn't like the direction it was moving in and didn't want to be tied to the show anymore. so it's not like fans just made klance up either - it was written into earlier episodes with the hope and plan to continue developing later, and then just nothing ever happened with it besides INTENSE teasing it to keep queer fans around. esp after shiro's relationship was literally only a flashback and then his fiance thing or whatever got blown up before we even got to watch him interact w shiro as we knew him in present time in s7, so I think they kept being like hmmm klance and the stuff about lance being a first choice before s8 to keep ppl around. also esp bc klancers made up such a big portion of the fan base. then they made a horrible szn and ended it w a flashforward to shiro marrying some random background character who maybe had 1 line? I just remember hitting the flashforward and being like uhhhh who is this dude??? but they did that to hit those diversity points wow first gay marriage in a cartoon or smt idk it doesn't count to me really. so anyway voltron in general is queerbait lol but klance is because it started out as a legit possibility and then they said sike! but only maybe sike bc u guys are mad at us burying our guys in s7 so maybe klance could still happen haha okay now we're serious no it's not happening. anyway I think klance is p bad queerbait and a vote for them is a valid vote, not just u liking the ship.
Here is my really boring and incredibly dry argument for #KLANCESWEEP:
There are countless examples of the Voltron showrunners queerbaiting when it comes to Klance. I will leave that argument and discussion to others. Instead, I would like to focus on why/how I believe Klance is the more significant instance of queerbaiting, despite Johnlock's queerbaiting being markedly more famous.
Queerbaiting is when a shows teases/hints at a character(s) being queer, but then never actually follows through on making the character LGBTQ+. Queerbaiting is, above all, a marketing technique; the show dangles the possibility of a queer romance in order to "bait" a queer/ally audience into watching, and then continues to dangle or drag out the possibility of a same-sex romance in order to keep their audience hooked and continuously profited off. Queerbaiting takes advantage of peoples' hope and optimism, and that's why the betrayal stings so deeply once the queerbaiting is realized.
I argue that one of the major components of queerbaiting is that the show/writers must never explicitly confirm that there will NOT be queer romance. Queerbaiting is only sustained so long as the illusion of possibility persists.
Now, there are plenty of nuances to this.
If a showrunner comes out and explicitly states that there will be no queer representation in the show, this statement alone does not absolve the show of any queerbaiting it previously did. But, it DOES blur the lines for what can reasonably be defined as "actual" versus "willful" queerbaiting and subtext in the show going forward.
okay let me drop the pseudo-academic tone and just put it bluntly. what i'm trying to say is that, if a showrunner explicitly says "NO GAY ROMANCE," but the show's audience continues to insist and read for gay subtext anyway, and then the audience feels betrayed when the show ends with no queer romance --- at a certain point, wouldn't you argue that it's the fans that are actually baiting themselves, and not the show itself? this is what i mean by "willful" subtext.
As early as 2010 (this article/interview was posted the day of the first episode), the Sherlock showrunners explicitly stated that there would be no romantic relationship between Sherlock and Watson. Between 2010 and 2016, the showrunners repeatedly stated in multiple interviews that Johnlock would never happen.
I am 100% aware that I was drinking nothing but Kool-Aid while Voltron aired. I absolutely baited myself with desperate hope each season. But, in my weak defense, the flames of my Klance delusions were very much flamed by the promises made by the Voltron showrunners, who repeatedly floated the promise of queer representation in the show and spoke about Klance in the same breath. Klancers didn't bait themselves out of thin air; they desperately clung to the rope the Voltron writers threw us, and we were pulled in: hook, line, and sinker.
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TLDR:
Queerbaiting involves willful deception and deliberate misinformation on the part of a showrunner/show.
If a showrunner encourages a queer ship, or makes vague promises of queer representation, then it reasonable for the show's audience to assume that a queer romance will happen. When a queer romance does not happen, this is clear-cut queerbaiting.
But if a showrunner explicitly states that a show will not have a major queer romance, then the show's audience should reasonably assume that the show will not have the queer ship they favor. If shippers continue to insist that their ship will come to fruition, and continue to pin their hopes on their ship, then the lines between who is actually baiting whom become very blurred.
Johnlock fans knew going into the show that John and Sherlock would never have an explicitly queer relationship. Fans continued to read for subtext, and maintained hope. The lines of queerbaiting become blurred, as it was not entirely clear if the show was actually baiting its shippers, or if fans were the ones baiting themselves.
In contrast, Klance fans were repeatedly encouraged by the showrunners, Netflix's marketing, and to some extent the VAs that Klance was possible (and that queer representation would firmly happen), and so Klance shippers were repeatedly strung along each season, up until the final season when Lance and Allura started dating and the Klance ship was torpedoed once and for all. (Do not talk to me about post-canon Klance, I am willfully defiant.) This is a firmly clear-cut case of queerbaiting.
In summary, Klance is the more textbook case of queerbaiting. It matches all the elements of queerbaiting: there was the willful deception by the showrunners, which encouraged Klance shippers specifically to hang onto the show, allowing Voltron to profit off its Klance audience. It's true that Klance shippers also continuously baited and deluded ourselves; but in our defense, we were following the example and promises set by the show itself.
Additional propaganda:
Even more Klance propaganda under the cut:
@klanced pretty well summarizes why Voltron was *more* queerbaity, but I think we should also consider what it means to be *worse.*
Make no mistake, the Sherlock team was.... for lack of a better term.... almost gaslight-y in their press, by disregarding the subtext that they themselves had written. But they were consistent. And their messages as showrunners did bear through, even as they were being cruel. Most importantly, Sherlock never needed the people they were baiting, so they could act aloof. That distance was horrible, but nothing like Voltron.
The relationship between Voltron and its fans was toxic, parasitic. Voltron couldn't have stayed around for that long without dragging its queer-baited audience behind it. It was a Netflix show, and those are always so close to the hangman's axe. It was the online fervor that sustained it.
And so, they had to appease the fans, pay the piper. But they had their own ideas for how the story would bear out, and each creator wanted something differently. In the end, they consistently used marketing tactics to imply something that could have been possible, if not for distinct creative voices that instead weakened the queer stories until they were watery piss.
Anyway, this was rambling. Vote Voltron for dangling queer alignment and ambiguity. Vote Voltron for pretending to be an ally. Vote Voltron for the stupid fucking LGBTQ banner that has Lance on it. Johnlock hurt, in a distant way, but Klance was worse.
I actually said this earlier on a different post, but I'll say it here too:
Its completely reasonable to think Klance was originally planned. Their interactions in the early seasons seemed a little too romantically coded to be something completely made up by fans. Thats why Klance was so popular, because it seemed all too possible.
However, when Dreamworks forced the creative team to change the story in order to keep Shiro alive instead of permanently killing him off like they originally planned, their entire story got fucked over. Seasons 3 and 4 were too far into production to stop and completely redo them, it would have been too expensive, even though it was the logical course of action. Instead, the producers had to make serious last minute changes to the story in order to keep Shiro in the picture. As a result, Shiro and Keith's switched places in the show, and Keith was almost completely written out of seasons 4-6 because Shiro was never supposed to be there. Any and all possible plans for any sort of development between Keith and Lance were thrown out the window because Keith wasn't there.
But as previously said, Voltron wouldn't have survived until the end without the rabid and feral online Klance fandom. The writing was very rapidly going to shit because there wasn't enough time to properly rewrite seasons 3 and 4 in order to meet Dreamworks' demands, and every season that followed suffered because of the decisions made for seasons 3 and 4. Everything was being improvised, and the storyboards for season 8 weren't finished until MARCH 2018 because of how behind schedule they were.
(I feel like the creative team don't get enough credit. Sure the show was a MASSIVE flop but their working conditions were less then ideal. Its impressive they got anything done on time due to the constantly changing ideas.)
The VLD producers knew that the Klance fandom was the only thing keeping the show alive, and continued to use Klance as bait until the very end. The VLD producers willingly enabled the notoriously toxic and violent Klance fandom with thumbnails and HotTopic merch, and allowed it to reach a point that the lives of their cast and crew were being threatenedby the rabid Klance fandom, just to get the ratings they needed to stay afloat.
THATS the disgusting part of all this. Whether Klance was originally planned as endgame or not, the producers used its popularity to keeping their already declining show running at the expense of the safety of their cast and crew.
I know next to nothing about BBC's Sherlock and Johnlock and whatever, but what the VLD producers did was sinister. Putting their creative team through both production and online HELL for some ratings, and it blew up in the most humiliating way possible. They did alllllll that, just to get one of the worst endings to an animated series of all time. Literally everyone hates them for what Voltron became, putting the lives of their creative team in danger was for nothing.
And obviously the producers can't completely blamed for the show's outcome, Dreamworks ruined their original plans. But continuing to use Klance as a marketing tactic while your fans are getting out of control and your creative team is being put in danger is just appalling. It was in their power to tell the Klance fandom Klance wasn't endgame, and that probably would have quelled the fire, but instead, with every season, they threw more and more gasoline into the dumpster fire.
So if you haven't already, vote Klance in this poll.
(I'm linking my source for all this info here. Its a video essay that I totally recommend watching. Super duper interesting.)
#klance#keith x lance#supercorp#lena x kara#supergirl#voltron#voltron legendary defender#worstqueerbaittournament#worst queerbait tournament
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haven’t done one of these in a while, BUT!!
my live reactions to tmagp ep 30 (w/ spoilers, obviously):
oh i am so deeply afraid for them!!! pick up your phone sam!!!
i’m american but this british transportation nonsense seems like a pain
NO COLIN STAY SAFE PLEASE COLIN
WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH FREDDY OMFG
noooooo colin :(
oh dear lord this is already stressing me out
uh oh gwen…
girl that’s not a threat that’s a fuckin promise
nooooo lena come back i miss u already
oh look who FINALLY checked his phone
celia i don’t like that you know things. when is your “complicated immigration status” getting exposed???
a dentist?? oh i would NOT go to that dentist
y’all went at NIGHT??? respectfully you deserve whatever is abt to happen to you, this is horror movie 101
DO NOT GO INTO THE OLD APPLIANCE STORE
a suspicious door, you say??
CHRIST trevor that scared the shit out of me
oh wait that’s not trevor lmao
does this place have a “store” or a unit or whatever for each of the fears or however they manifest in this universe??
honestly this custodian guy is so real for this
noooo alice are you alone rn?? babygirl 😭
TAPE RECORDER
one normal night, one normal night, one normal night, custodian guy wants…
who the fuck IS this guy tho??
WAIT IS THIS A STATEMENT
omggggg hi archivist 💋
“a wound that never fully heals” well maybe… a wound between worlds????
WHO’S THE OWNER WHO IS IT
dude your job sucks lmao
WINTER OF 97
A LIGHTER I AM SCREAMING
IS IT UNIT 17 THAT’S OPEN????
AN OLD WOMAN??? MARY KEAY????
the way i am going bonkers in the middle of
the whimpering… if this is jon i will lose it
you NEVER go have a look!! you little fool!!
oh that’s not— fix ur mannequins pls and thank u
oh EW put your blood vessels back in!!!!
“it is rough and cold and silent inside” oh i do not like this actually
“cold gray pours down my throat and fills my stomach with stone” like that one statement with the cement???? am i reaching????
WE ARE HILLTOP???? WHAT
oh bye tape recorder 👋 that was truly horrid thanks so much!!
CALL HER BACK DUDE
DO. NOT. GO. TO. THE. HILLTOP. BASEMENT. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
WHAT ARE WE SEEING PLS SHARE W THE CLASS
wdym ALMOST girl???
this is an entirely valid outburst from sam, go off king <3
YES YES YES CELIA LORE
which means you should probably go back celia!!
IF YOU SHOVE SAM INTO THAT WOUND BETWEEN WORLDS—
HI ARCHIVIST!!!!!!
i’m sitting in this hallway like 👁️ 👁️ right now. this is INSANE
no excuse me i wanted the rest of that statement!!!!
oh hello again custodian guy, really fucked up thing for you to say tbh
omg hi again gwen <3 this is so bouchard of you and i love it
hi trevor!!
omg she got her promotion and yet… at what cost
can we get a status update on colin pls????
oh CELIA YOU DID NOT
THAT’S THE END OF IT????
so anyway i’m going insane now 😎 i didn’t have to wait between seasons when i listened to TMA and i don’t know if i’m gonna be able to do it now, omfg. great season finale but i may just lose my marbles until s2 starts releasing
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magnus protocol episode 29 ramble
we're so back!!! i cannot believe next week will be the last episode of the season this went by so fast
also watch dead boy detectives on netflix please i want another 100 seasons of it and it's also just really really good
anyway here we go!!! episode 29!!!!!!!! it does not feel like january was that long ago but like fuck. it was.
oh sam are you ok oh fuck he is not okay
ok he's alive that's good that's very good
he doesn't want alice to be right also gwen absolutely would care she cares so much (it is the fear)
well no because alice met it and she survived and gwen got attacked by it and she survived but i guess they wouldn't know the gwen part
feed me the institute. woah did it cut off when he thought of the hilltop centre? also celia's right do not go there
oh i'm so excited get alice there too GEORGIE MENTION anyway let's go gang this is a horrible .. ok celia you stole my thing
ohhh gwen and lena banter why does gwen hate lena so much i actually kind of love her she seems like the ideal boss
"don't call me unless it's an emergency" they're calling her later
wait. i need to pause and pull up the transcript. lost track of the numbers
the 2020 mention made me think the magnus archives
viola locke?
oh this sounds so cute like a surprise trip with a travel diary?? adorable. don't ever surprise me with a trip though i would have a heart attack not being able to know any of the plans
these guys sound so adorable what the hell
stan please don't murder her i will stop believing in love
huh. what. what. huh? gonna translate that later
i'm stressed out now can we go back to the cute old people romance
fuck i accidentally went back a few minutes LMAO
yea this is not a museum you should leave now
wait this is on lena's computer right? like gwen was on lena's computer after she left? i wonder why lena would get a statement (unless it was for gwen)
oh no they got locked in (ironic)
ohhhh it means "unlock your heart" thank u for translating for me viola
this is terrible they are too old for this
oh no. oh stan. oh no stan. wtf this is gonna make me cry
this is horrific! thanks!
alright so um. wtf.
alice!!! oh and teddy omg!!!! oh. teddy. i forgot i'm worried about him
something serious? uh oh. NOO TEDDY NOOOO DON'T DIE OH FUCK ALICE DON'T LEAVE HIM HE MIGHT ACTUALLY DIE
NO WAIT ALICE DON'T LEAVE HIM ACTUALLY AND ALSO DON'T GO JUST PLEASE HELP HIM TEDDY I'M WORRIED FOR YOU TEDDY I'M REALLY SO WORRIED ABOUT YOU
ALICE HONEY??? OH MY GOD IT'S ON THE TRAIN OH MY GOD IT'S ON THE TRAIN REST IN PEACE SAM KHALID REST IN PEACE CELIA RIPLEY
oh you. you. youuuuuuuuuu. you. you. you. you. oh . youu. you. you can't end it there. you can't end it there. you are. joking. you are. kidding.
actually tweaking out oh my holy jesus fuck
#SHAKINH#SHSKING#SHAKING#THIRD TIMES THE CHARM#the magnus protocol#tmagp#tmagp spoilers#magnus protocol#tmagp 29
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I have email notifications for asks switched on which is how I know that @pc36thorn sent me an ask despite it not showing up in my inbox, I hope you're pestering support about that shadowban it's been a crazy long time now lmao:
who are some of your favorite musicians and how did you find out about them?
I've been obsessed with Kleenex Girl Wonder for the past nearly two years now, like obsessed on a level I haven't experienced since I was a teenager, there's been long stretches where I listened to basically nobody else. I found them in someone's rym reviews. The band is mostly one insanely prolific songwriter named Graham Smith who has been recording his own stuff since he was 15 and is somehow still going in his mid-40s despite having zero commercial success ever as far as I can see. Extremely varied output that's hard to sum up but "too many words" (affectionate) is the main stylistic constant
The thing that's frustrating is that the one album that actually did achieve some micro-indie fame is Ponyoak (1999), but almost everything that came after that is 1000x more interesting... the one that ultimately sucked me in was The Comedy Album, which is not a comedy album but an album that's sort of about comedy, sometimes as a means to being about other things?
It's hard to recommend because it's like 80 minutes long and changes genre every few tracks, but I mean I think the first track "Parody Music" is an excellent introduction and the last track "Like Lena Dunham" is possibly the best song written this century. If that's worth anything. I'm obviously not happy to have to report that a song about being obsessed with a girl who looks like Lena Dunham has moved me more than almost anything else on this earth but there's nothing I can do about that.
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TMAGP NOTES 19 AND HOLY FUCKING SHIT
• * ominous music *
• hard reset is definitely a computer episode like cmon
• I checked the voice actor in this one, Collin's back! I hope.
• * office noises*
• Sam! Celia!
• ohhhh alchemy
• khalid... alchemy... institute...
• wait he IS going to drop it?
• okay not totally then
• Chester!
• PROTOCOL MENTIONED!!!
• is it another ' This Actual Historical Figure Was Supernaturally Fucked Up'?
• PROTOCOL²
• lots of protocols here. why might that be.
• did they fuck
• ohhhh shiny
• the hell he's saying
• that doesn't help buddy I know jackshit about religion 😭
• " but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for on whatever day you eat of it you shall surely die."
• poor doggy
• wait what?
• ANOTHER fucked up tree? damn
• " it saw me and it knew me" oh that does not seem good
• stop bashing on the poor dog goddamnit
• everytime he says good science I imagine it as Good Science ™
• ok so the protocol is not a good thing. it is a very fucked up thing
• Alice!
• the computers wanting them to talk is hilarious
• LMAO
• YEAH THEY ARE BUDDY
• Sam is figuring all the shit out
•YEAH YOU ARE DO NOT LISTEN TO HER
• ok wheres collin
• Gwen!!!!
• Lena!!!
• ok who said you were essential personnel though
• good luck 👍
• phone noises
• oh? lookin for Collin then
• there he is!!!
• he is not good
• alchemy stuff I think ?
• oh damn. at least he's alive?
sheet y'all next Thursday? ( and Collin too hopefully)
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(upends all the -corps on your desk)
agent, guardian, reign, rojas, super, freespace for any i forgot?
god you're a bitch (affectionate)
im so sorry it's so long so please have a read more
also i give you 2 freespace -corps as a treat (to literally me and like 3 other people idk if anybody else cares about this)
agentcorp - NO
for all the potential they could have based on how i feel about their relationship to their respective siblings, i just don't care. im not vibing. just ready to nuke her? idk pass i guess. (did kara lie a gazillion times? yeah for sure. but also like she doesn't want lena dead dead so)
guardiancorp - (if you're referring to kelly, then YES; if james, then NO)
the potential for james guardiancorp could have been interesting but it's literally the same as agentcorp in that i end up not caring about it? no nuking tho and i think if it wasn't idk rammed into our eyeballs without friendship (that is the literal ticket to lena's heart, it's friendship so idk why they're not giving it to her), i might be more cool with it. but as it stands *shrugs* just not vibing lmao
the potential for kelly guardiancorp is that there is so much healing involved. not because she's idk a therapist or whatever and it's her job, i think kelly (for all the characterization she did get) i think it can pair as unlikely friends who click on well but turn into something more. it's slow but it doesn't burn, necessarily. i think their respective demons and skeletons in the closet are gonna come out and not necessarily war with one another, but come out at inopportune times. i think kelly might even last longer than jack, all things considered, because she knows about that pain or tension or darkness that lena needs. i think it could work. also i maintain that gun range headcanon
reigncorp - YES
sam is a also giver but i think because she's not silver spoon-grown the way the rest of lena's posse are, there's a grit to her that makes her different. at least to the likes of jack and andrea. there's history there, shared companionship, compatibility. literally a quality friends to lovers fic. the child complicates it, but lena is so starved for love just as she hungers for giving love. i think that sam (and ruby, as a result) are good people for that. i think of all the relationships to work out long term, this might be it, actually. especially if we're talking long term restorative healing journies. controversial take since i have never written anything to signify this, but *shrugs* they would be good for each other. i think this is like accidental eventual happy ending in the way that they've since stayed together through everything, it almost is a surprise when lena leans forward and sam closes the distance. but then when they kiss, it isn't. so, yeah.
rojascorp - YES
similar to how sam and lena have history, companionship, and compatibility, i'd like to think andrea was the blueprint for that. and then she betrayed lena and got into some bullshit and wrecked her life a bit before getting it slightly together. rojascorp is like redemption!arc endgame that i think would happen in light of a permanent supercorp rift. their dynamic would also serve to highlight just how vastly different their station in life is in comparison to the others. where the superfriends are decidedly middle class, lena and andrea literally are in the .05% of society. they live particular lives, have particular expectations thrust upon them, navigate the world so differently. lena is open to hang with the plebes people but staying around andrea keeps her up in the social circles of her family, despite their absence. aside from that, i think that andrea will fight for and with lena. i think she's the right type of pain and struggle that lena needs in her life. in some ways i also see this working out, but i can also see this couple getting as close to the Best and they get in each other's way by getting in the way of themselves. old wounds that have scabbed over might reopen at a moment of weakness, even with the progress they make, so that would be interesting on how can they survive again. if nothing else, that's how they define love with each other.
supercorp - YES
i mean (see my ao3 tag pls)
if you want a real answer, i think they have been set up so perfectly together that whatever it is that the show can't do, i know that i can do for myself (and the fandom as well). i'm also thinking about the emotional beats of their upbringing and complicated relationships they have with both male and female family members and what that entails, and also that they serve to complement and parallel each other in different ways. two women born out of circumstance and trauma, enduring of so many things, what's not to like. suffice it to say, other women on this list also share this with lena, so it's not like kara is unique, but i do think that the ways in which the two of them have stationed themselves where kara is the sun and lena orbits her (both canonically and fanonically, for literal better or worse) is fascinating in a way that i literally just can't get enough of. granted, that could be that kara is the titular character so we just see her more. but i've shipped pairs from nothing but the power of my imagination, so i don't think that's it, necessarily. i think that there is a bit of a serendipitous approach to their relationship's rise and fall. i think redemption!arc endgame, when done right between them, reassesses how they can be better than they were, this time with each other in mind. but it's a lot of work and i think they will have to really, really work at it - especially kara, to make it so that they never hurt each other in the way that they have in the past. kara has committed a thousand paper cuts on lena and i think she addresses that in her second chance with lena. and i think that's enough of that grounding pain that lena seeks, whether she realizes it or not. it's not all the way healthy, i'll admit, but they are also not all the way healthy, so.
freespace: rojaslettecorp (aka andrea, veronica, lena) - YES
it's a throuple of boarding school bitches with A Past, all rich and somewhat shady in various and compelling ways. what's not to love i guess. i headcanon that they are all soft (even veronica, but not all the way, just enough for the other two not to give up on her) and broken mostly through family trauma and expectations that they don't meet
but also think about the fact that they could very well come together as versions of their youthful selves, a little battered, a little broken, a little bit more criminal (they are rich, they literally already exist outside of the law for the most part) and there's a certain kind of recognition in that. the way it'll play though is that andrea and veronica will 100000% antagonize each other and lena will for sure play the straight man who just keeps the peace together long enough until it's time for her to pick a winning side, temporary that side may be.
freespace: imralucylena (what the fuck kind of corp are they?) - WHY NOT
a) i believe in myself so im vibing and can make this happen so jot that down
b) "in service of the greater good, even at the expense of one's personal good" is what i would sum this all up to be
#replies#ask game#sideguitars#sorry seej i literally can never remember what tag i have made for you#sam meta
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I’m actually really curious on your opinion on the people who they casted for for the Lannister’s!!
Lena Headey, Peter Dinklage, Nikolaj Coster Waldu, and Charles dance!!
Lena Headey, IMO, is THE perfect Cersei and I wish they had given her more book material.
I think my only problem with Nikolajs Jaime is that for some reason they just decided he was gonna be brunette after like season 2! That’s not Nikolajs fault though. I LOVE HIM as Jaime !!!
Charles Dance & Peter Dinklage kind of face the same problem in my mind is that at some points I think they may have made there characters too charming in moments where they shouldn’t be. Other than I really like there casting (death tk bald Tywin…)
Curious to know your thoughts <33
tbh I don’t really have any strong opinions about the Lannister castings lol. I think they all did a generally good job and whilst their performances faltered a bit under increasingly weak scripts, that’s not really their fault. would probably put them in a rough ranking of Dance > Dinklage > Headey > Coster-Waldau. agree that Dance and Dinklage were playing very whitewashed versions of their characters but I think that’s a problem with the scripts, same as with Headey who had to deliver god knows how many ‘I love my brother I love my lover I love my children I’d die for my children I’d kill everyone for my children’ monologues. her eyes seemed to almost glaze over towards the end lmao. Coster-Waldau I don’t feel any particular way about except that I think he struggled the most with the bad scripts so that’s why he’s last in the ranking.
also side note on the brunette Jaime discourse, im an outlier on this bc honestly I think it was just a lighting issue. he’s not brunette the latter seasons were just poorly lit plus NCW’s hair has greyed a lot by that point so that dulls it further. but mostly it’s lighting lol i was actually surprised when i saw like bts pics to discover that certain things actually had colour in life e.g. Jaime was apparently wearing a red jacket all through S8 but it just looked brown to me the whole time lmao, Dany’s finale outfit was also substantially red at the bottom but I couldn’t tell that either
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TMAGP 22 thoughts, spoilers under the cut
Lena what the fuck why is your reaction to Gwen almost getting killed “ok but why didn’t you get their contact info”
Also I love that she referred to [ERROR] as the “watching figure” like I know the transcript last week initially called them Archivist but it’s nice to have confirmation that wasn’t immediately backtracked on lmao
I don’t know how to feel about Gwen getting demoted for this one, I think she did the right thing when she ran away, and that’s what Lena seems upset about. However, the real reason she should be getting demoted is the classism and condescension that pissed off ink5oul in the first place tbh.
Also I’m sure Gwen retaining her title in order to not look bad on the inspection totally won’t force her to have to go back to actually talking to externals ever /s
Also, Mrs. Kelley? She’s MARRIED? She’s either Elias-style repeatedly divorced or her partner is equally cold and autistic there is no other option
ooh Augustus time
Shejdjrjdiejdi Hans Berger is such a name teehee hamburger
Oh no, they’re experimenting on dogs :(
and people
is this a case of Hans going “hey dude your recipe’s fucked up” *proceeds to describe how exactly he did not follow the instructions* because it sure sounds like it.
Unless I’m misinterpreting and the instructions he received from the guy he’s corresponding with said to do the silver replacement thing bc I thought he got the silver idea from someone else
Okay now he’s using methods from ANOTHER guy. Dude how in the fuck are you blaming Richard for this?
Okay now he’s just pulling a new technique out of his ass. Of course your findings were weird, you didn’t use Richard’s technique, just something very vaguely similar
Bro’s really trying to create Jekyll and Hyde right now. Has he not read the book? Shouldn’t he know how terrible of an idea that is???
Ah yes, the standard 1920s activity of insulting your wife’s work speed while she’s working with a completely new configuration of equipment. Prick.
Also love the fact that the Hyde part of this dude can only communicate through Hans’s equipment
“Can you hear it?” Jesus Ursula that’s literally the most ominous thing you could say right now
Of course Hans assumes that she’s talking about the obvious equipment noise
Oh shit, Doctor Malpractice over here gave this poor dude a grand mal seizure
oh no this poor dude HANS YOU MADE HIS BRAIN MALFORMATION BURST WHAT THE FUCK YOU KILLED HIM
…are we ever gonna find out what Ursula was hearing?
you didn’t think to look over your data until weeks after the fact? are you shitting me? the data wasn’t even part of the investigation into this poor dude’s death?
Oh she was hearing exactly what this guy was saying via the telegraph. That’s really fucking cool, actually.
Well, Jesus. The second consciousness was not having a good time, apparently.
Oh this is the same night as the last episode
Sam catching onto Alice deleting his files immediately is peak comedy
Obviously he’s pissed about this
“You just want to control me again” oh that’s why they broke up
“That if I showed you the ropes we could” YOU COULD WHAT ALICE
ooh Celia has Magnus info?
JONATHAN SIMS AND MARTIN BLACKWOOD??????
FUCK YOU JONNY AND ALEX YOU CANT JUST END THE EPISODE THERE
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sorry if youve talked about this before and i missed it, but reading your got rewatch posts, i was wondering if you had any thoughts on the show changes were cersei and robert did have a baby together that died, and cats ‘all because i couldnt love a motherless child’ scene?
they're both stupid lmao.
okay first - robert & cersei baby is slightly more forgiveable because we get two really great scenes out of it. i wish cersei had just been lying about the baby to catelyn, as a way of trying to emotionally reach out/manipulate her. it would be a very cersei thing to do, and imo sort of a precursor to her taena relationship - i've said this before but cersei really wants groupies, it's why she falls for taena so fast, it's why she loves qyburn so much! she is just like, desperate for friends (friends who don't talk back, anyway), and i can see cersei figuring she could smooth over this not-quite-killing-bran fuckup by telling catelyn a sad story about how she lost a baby that she never actually lost. and when she mentions it to robert, it's in the middle of a really great scene.
COMMA BUT. it's sooooo ooc for cersei to risk having a baby by robert and it's not a change you can justify. she would just never do that. i think they could have kept the story between her and catelyn and had her reveal later in the season it was a lie - i think lena could have really sold something like that, the way cersei really is trying to comfort catelyn as sure as she is mostly trying to cover for her mistakes. it's just kind of a goofy change to me.
NOW THE CATELYN SCENE. ASS. ASS ON ASS.
I think what annoys me about that scene is Catelyn does feel some guilt over how she treats Jon - it's why she's so uncomfortable around Mya Stone, for example. She's well aware that the way she treats him is unfair, and the way she is so suspicious of bastards in general is unfair, and she keeps it to herself when she interacts with Mya, but she really sits in that guilt - and then discards it, because Robb needs her to focus. I think Catelyn would describe her feelings as essentially being unable to love a motherless child; she's a very maternal sort of person, and she's a very compassionate sort of person. When she tells Ned to send Jon away she specifically thinks that she's being "hard" - she's not immune to Ned's love for his son, it has an effect on her. It's just an effect she refuses to acknowledge.
COMMA BUT. She would NEVER and I mean NEVER say that shit out loud, certainly not to a near STRANGER. And she would nevver link her feelings towards Jon to what happened to Bran and Rickon. It's so frustrating to me because we already have several scenes where Catelyn deals with her Jon Snow issues, in the aforementioned Mya Stone interactions and that argument she has with Robb about his will. And they just cut them for a scene that is not good! Because like, I love Michelle Fairley, but it's not a good scene! The dialogue is overdramatic and stupid, and the filming is bad. They're just having her sit there and stare into the middle distance while monologuing. How is that more interesting than her climbing the mountain with Mya Stone, or arguing with Robb alone? Just a stupid choice.
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I watched Pretty Woman when I was around 12. Which, first of all, my mom let me watch and read anything.
It pretty much encoded in my brain. It also played an important role in my fascination with older men with silver hair. And I love everything about it. I know it's problematic and stuff. But it's so good. Everything is perfect, casting, music, story, acting, cinematography. Romantic movies don't commit like this. I miss the beautiful, curly hair and the romantic ballads. It feels as if Hollywood is allergic to romance now.
I'm suffering from lack of good romantic movies. Please recommend some good movies.
If it makes you feel any better, I was probably younger than 12 when my mom like MADE me watch it with her lmao
And I agree so much with everything you have to say about it. Pretty Woman is, to me, the Iconique romance movie. It feels more like a romance novel, to me, than most movies. And it's sooooo sexy.
For other romantic movies, I'd recommend:
Brown Sugar (2002). This one is really fun because both of the protagonists make really bad choices sometimes! He marries the wrong person, she gets with the wrong person, it's friends to lovers the way it should be done (ie with a lot of angst). But you still root for them to get together! Also, Taye Diggs gives an absolutely perfect line delivery (like several) in this clip.
(We gonna celebrate--what? *clink clink* MY DIVOOOOOORCE!)
Always Be My Maybe (2019). Another example of friends to lovers done right, though it's really one of the things I love in books too, which is "childhood friends to strangers to lovers". So good. Also, the single best usage of a celebrating playing themselves ever with Keanu Reeves.
Imagine Me and You (2005). A sweet sapphic romcom with a bit of a moral quandary in the premise... A woman is walking down the aisle to her husband, looks over, sees florist Lena Headey, and understandably falls in love with florist Lena Headey. But like, she didn't even know she was bi, let alone that florist Lena Headey existed, so--what now? Cheesy in a very sweet way. Actually plays with infidelity in a manner that movies kinda don't as much at the moment (Brown Sugar does as well). Yet it remains heartwarming.
Faraway (2023). Nobody ever talks about this movie, even though it has so many things we always say we want—like a woman over 40 who isn't stick thin falling in love with a man over 40 who also doesn't have this insanely ripped body (and he remains hot, to be clear). In this one, a woman finds out her husband is PROBABLY cheating on her on the day of her mother's funeral. She also finds out that her mom had a secret house in Croatia! And when she goes to that house to get away from her family, there's Some Guy squatting there! And now she's kind of in a love triangle with Some Guy and a younger real estate developer who wants to buy the property...? It's delightful. I need to rewatch it.
Hit Man (2023 though let's be real it's a 2024 movie). Anyone who hasn't seen this yet--it's a romcom. It's a whole romcom. With sex in it. It's very funny, it made me attracted to Glen Powell against my will, he eats this girl out a kitchen island (and she thinks he's a hit man she almost hired to kill her husband). It's definitely got a touch of darkness, but everyone who suffers deserves to because they're like, abusive husbands and racist predatory cops. Hell yeah.
Amelie (2001). I'm sure everyone has seen Amelie by now, but if you haven't, watch Amelie. It's everything it's cracked up to be.
Argylle (2024). YEAH. YEAH. I'M PUTTING THIS ON HERE. Everyone shat all over Argylle, and I was like oh shit, what even is Argylle??? I don't wanna spoil too much, but did you know that Argylle pretty much ends on two people making out as they speed away from whimsical chaos??? Did you know that Argylle has like.. AN AMNESIA ROMANCE PLOT??? It's goofy as fuck and it is delightful.
Lisa Frankenstein (2024). Another recent one that is actually so romantic. And the monster uses a giant Hitachi magic wand on Lisa Frankenstein. Good for her.
The Through My Window trilogy I will always cite as Euroteen romance movie excellence. Like, the second movie is kinda rough, but the third makes up for it completely. It is soapy, it is ridiculous, it is EVERYTHING a good Wattpad movie should be except there's also like, an actual earnest heart to it. Ares is a king among men. Raquel is batshit insane but gets away with it because she is That Girl. I love it.
Anyway, this is far from a complete list, but try these for like, the heart feelings.
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Episode 4;
Oh boy here we go with clipboard Buck lmao
Ugh not Chase already. Gross
Gotta love Athena's mom voice 🤣🤣
Oop Jealous Husband Buck with Lena
Not gonna lie I kinda wish instead of the lawsuit they went with like Buck transferring stations and then Bobby realizes how much he messed up when he basically loses another kid
Oooh Chris and his nightmares my heart :(
They love to traumatize Maddie, don't they? Ugh
I just wish everyone COMMUINICATED more and then we wouldn't have these problems (but then we also wouldn't have this drama either lmao)
Not Maddie being a vigilante lmao I kinda love it
OH BOY NOT READY FOR BUCK TO KNOW ABOUT BOBBY BEING THE REASON HE CAN'T COME BACK BUT HERE WE GO
I kind wish Maddie ran his ass over lmao
The blender pettiness I LOVE IT hahaha
Ooooh Maddie whatcha doing girl
Chim loves Maddie so much my heart
Christopher my heart hurts so much for him
As much as Bobby deserves what happened, again communication would have saved them (AND US) the heartbreak of this damn lawsuit arc
Episode 5;
As shitty as it was about all the 118s dirty laundry being aired out. . .it just shows how much Buck was treated differently with everything and while I understand why everyone was so angry about Buck talking about their lives (which I'm sure a lot of things COULD be found out if Chase did his own digging) it in reality should have shown them all how MUCH they treated Buck differently
You can tell how much Bobby loves Buck by the way he treated the duck farm guy (not that he should have shoved him and yelled at him BUT STILL. And we all know the idiot kids line was def made in his anger to Buck)
The racial profiling scene also hurts me so much.
Even though Eddie shouldn't have hit the guy I would have loved for him to have asked if he wanted his other knee to be messed up lmao
I love that they used Ronda's fighting background as a way to have the fight ring arc happen. I know a lot of people probably don't like Lena for introducing Eddie to the fighting ring, but I actually really like the character and I kinda wish they would bring her back
Kinda wish that guy gave Athena a reason to arrest him
The supermarket scene my heart :( Buck is so sad to be yelled at by his husband
I feel so bad for Karen and Hen. They want a baby SO bad and to have all of these roadblocks (ESPECIALLY with that's coming soon and the later seasons) and it makes me so sad for them
Some part of me wishes Buck didn't go to the rage room for some reason. And not gonna lie I don't like petty Bobby.
While fight ring Eddie is hot, I still don't like it!
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hi! I hope you’re doing good and I was wondering if you can cast your mutuals as The Pacific men, women characters too? based off of their personalities? hope this isn’t too much to ask! anyways, have a good day!
hello! it's not too much to ask, i can definitely try to do that!
burgie → @im-chinese-believe-it-or-not this was the first one that popped into my head immediately!! you have burgie's soft caring side where you wanna look after all your friends/mutuals and make sure everyone is okay and feels Seen and heard and validated!! and i feel like you have that warmth and stabilising effect that burgie has on the boys too... when you're not around my dash feels slightly off! but you also know when to be firm and shut things down when people interact with you or others in bad faith! you're not a pushover at all and will stand up for the right thing even if it means you have to put on your "shut up bill" voice. i feel like you spread happiness and safe vibes in the same way that burgie does!
eddie → @hellofanidea because i feel like you have a lot of depth and i just feel like we'd have interesting conversations all the time and you're the kind of person whose brain i want to pick about random topics. you seemed like a Cool Online Person when we first became mutuals but it turned out you're actually super approachable and easy to talk to and eddie definitely feels similar in that way!
sledge → @theflyingfin because you're smart and always interesting to talk to! like eugene, you're open with how you feel about things and you just give me sledge vibes sometimes but not naive!sledge vibes but sledge who has seen some things y'know?
snafu → @aegondluvrs bc 99% of our first conversation revolved around svt and enha's teeth (rightly so) and you definitely have snafu's brand of chaos! also: if snafu was a carat in 2023 he too would have a folder dedicated to lee jihoon's teeth, we're not alone!
sid → my good friend @footprintsinthesxnd! i feel like i'm copying the quiz we did but it honestly felt really accurate to me because you're a literal sweetheart and one of the kindest people around but you're also way more than just that.. you're a great friend and always so supportive when anything has happened, and you're funny and witty in the same understated way that sid is. people probably think you're shy and quiet at first but that absolutely changes when you become friends with them. we have the best conversations and i'm genuinely so glad to have you in my life!!
leckie x lena hybrid → @lewis-winters look, i know i talk all the time about how annoying leckie is, so let me first of all say that i'm not including any of the annoying parts of his personality here... but you do have a similar charismatic intelligence thing going on.. y'know, the type of person you know you would always enjoy having a conversation with no matter what the topic is and whose opinion you would always be interested in hearing on just about anything. lena comes in with that aspect too, but you also have her enigmatic vibes, the kind that makes people wanna be friends with you!
runner → @ep6bastogne bc your posts make me laugh a ton and you're chill but also not at the same time? which is how i feel runner is too.. like he jokes around and winds leckie up and is silly af but he also gives off chill drama free vibes idk like i just feel like you're both the type of friend i would want in my life y'know?
chuckler → @lamialamia because our conversations are either about something ridiculous like sledge's ass flash and leckie's sex scenes or they're about the devastation of war and losing ack ack and eddie or something equally as terrible lmao you feel very balanced to me in that way and i think chuckler is like that too.. hilarious and jokes around but also serious when you need to be! kinda the perfect mix you would want in a friend or mutual!
vera → @hxad-ovxr-hxart because you're very funny but also very sweet! and you have vera vibes (warm and kind but witty vibes!!) and i feel like you're very approachable in the same way vera is too!
sorry if this didn't live up to your expectations anon!! this was a lot of fun to think about though!
#there were a few people who i wanted to tag as hoosier and ack ack and some others but i don't know them well enough so chickened out#sorry i didn't do everyone#i got shy half way through answering#mutuals#julian's inbox
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